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Justice.....how current are these PPS projections? It seems you have been posted these numbers for at least the last 12 months.
Agree with you Pick. That's the concern I see. How long is this information going to be discussed:. After all these years I think people want to know when the distribution and how much. You have a couple of people who post claiming to have reliable sources and yet the sources can't give any info concerning the distribution. It's obvious the source information is questionable. Something just don't seem right.
Here's hoping we receive the dollars everyone is talking about so I can buy more COOP. So far nobody knows anything. It's the same information being recycled. Tough to read sometimes.
It would be nice to wake up tomorrow morning with an announcement of $$ distributions. Like most every year was hoping this would be the year...but nothing. A lot has happened in these many years and I have said this before even if there is money the people at the top have already decided the little guy don't deserve it and have already figured out how to keep all of it. This is a well kept secret that even the so-called sources certain people talk about don't know about it.
Thank you Pick. My patience is pretty thin and certain ones posting information over and over again that does not lead to a payout. You have people reading the same document and coming up with different understanding. For years we have been on this hamster wheel with no answer to the real question ....WHEN and HOW MUCH. There is something wrong with this picture.
Thank you...for caring.
Thank you......My heart was broken twice over to hear her ask about WM and she was dying. If this had been resolved last year or even the beginning of this year she would have had an opportunity to benefit. There are others that have passed without seeing a dime and it's awful to know that there is a person or persons that won't bring this to an end. .
I think you did very well in summing up what has been happening on this board for the last few years. My sister passed a month ago and a week before she passed she asked me about the status of WM. She believe the soothsayers on this board. She was looking forward to receiving monies to buy herself a home. Unfortunately it didn't happen.
The fact the hedge funds have not said anything is an indication that there is no money,,,,it's over.
I wish I had sold all my shares at $52.00. I just don't t understand why we don't get the $$ owed to us. What do we need to do to start the distribution. It's obvious that the person or persons that can press the start button is not going to do it. I believe they have already figured out a way legally not to pay. They have the funds and it belongs to them.
All this information and yet nobody not even Alice with her reliable source can tell us when the distribution will start. There is definitely something wrong with this picture. I believe that with so much money based on some of the posters I just don't think the people in the know and in charge will allow this to flow to us. And the Hedge Funds...I think they already have their money this is why you don't hear from them. Look if I had that much money that belong to me I would be making some noise, a lot of noise.
Yes....I agree with you as well. It would be nice to be able to invest in COOP at the low prices. I tend to think that when you have times like these corporations would have a tendency to hold on to the money rather than letting it go. My opinion only...
"Yep and imo if we don’t see something in next few weeks with escrow we never will."
JHD
If BOP is right then what is keeping things from flowing? After all this time it seems there is no hurry to start the distribution. I personally think they have found a way to get around not paying.
Are we getting paid soon?
Agree with your statements. I believe most people on this board is interested in the escrow payment first. Escrow is the cake in my book and Coops PPS is just the icing on that cake. We want to get paid and paid now.
Hi Large,
Should I sell my COOP and wait to buy back in after escrow is paid?
Thanks
Yes...I do. It should not take this long (13 years or from 2012 9 years) to pay escrow holders. I had hoped that it was possible to receive monies for my escrow shares but every action Bray and the BOD have taken is for their benefit.
Yes...It is still up in the air.
And we think Coop/Coop BOD is going to do the right thing. Look at Kraft...an example of what a company will do to keep for themselves.
Kraft, execs hit with over $62 million in penalties over accounting scheme -SEC
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kraft-execs-hit-over-62-135404630.html
nranger....Amen!!!
woes anybody know when we might see escrow payment? I think this is what most people that read or comment on this board want to know. The other debates seem minor compared to execution timeframe.
Wowalters and why are you in no hurry. People have been in this for 13 and/or 9 years. This should have already been done and over with. Why more waiting?
Yes, yes, yes!!! Execute KKR/BOD..what is the holdup.
Pick....this is what I worry about mostly. What is right and/or wrong in their world. Hope they will want to do the right thing after so many years. Alice stated according to her source that there is a list with names and amounts. Hope it's true and not a made up dream.
Let’s not forget they can do some creative accounting and still not pay off anything.
13 years or 9 years from 2012....Either way you look at it it's a long time. When will this end. AZ states in his messages .."not long". RD post dates but they come and go. If Alice prolonged this then shame on her. I'm just not to trusting of the documents because I believe these guys in the background will figure out a way to keep all for themselves. It's been a long time and if this don't end soon and very soon I don't think anything will come to escrow. My opinion.
He said, she said, he said, she said.......my goodness. I don't think any of what is being posted is important. It's been 13 years and if you count from 2012 it's 9 years. I don't know about you but I'm more concerned about the execution date of this saga. I bought stock for my son when he was 27 years old {single}....now he is 40 (married w/2kids)and I would like to give him his fair share of the $$.
I personally think nobody is 100% as to what is going to be. I think all including AZ and Miss Alice will be surprised. Why...because I don't trust the person/persons in charge of the execution. When a lot of money is involved their is a tendency of doing whatever they can to keep most or all for themselves. I'm hoping I'm wrong and praying for the best in the end.
JHD...he is not going to answer your question on the timing of this. Sorry.
AZ...the question we all want to know is.....WHEN? I don't understand why they can't start the ball rolling now. Even with the so-called delays they knew this was to be so why not have everything prepared and ready to go when all is cleared... I personally think KKR is in no hurry because they are using the money as a financial piggy bank for their business ventures. They have to know that people are frustrated and ready for this to be over now...not months down the road. It's sickening.
"COOP's Going to Boogie', and your DTC Issued ESC Cusips will be used to return your accumulated interest withheld from you while the Reorganization and the WMI Holding Companies BK's were being legally completed ...
... Everything Is Fine' ... KKR', is going to rock this mutha' ...
just sayin'
AZ
According to AZ we are waiting on the BOD...Why don't they get this done and over with. Don't understand the delay in getting this started. Frustrating....very.
Yeah.....me too and I'm sure there are many more that feel the same way. This needs to be over with...now. How much longer do we have to wait for the end...good or bad.
Lots of information posted on this board unfortunately the most important question most wants to know is not being answer...WHEN. Dates have been posted on this board for years and each time the date pass and nothing. Some say "soon" but you can't interpret the word soon with a date. Now we have sources feeding information that apparently not reliable. So who is the source...someone on the message board that don't know anymore than us?
I appreciate AZ's knowledge and input on this board even though I admit most of the time I don't understand what is being said because of the format of his language but for a very long time he has been saying soon and here we are today with nothing. In my world soon is at the most a month. Anything over that is considered sometime in the distant future.
Happy 4th to you all!
Pick .... I agree!!
AZ...This is WONDERFUL news. We have been waiting for so long and I hope that we will $$ in our accounts very soon. Another disappointment will definitely wreck my soul.
Thanks Royal and Bond for your reply to my question!
Anyone......Do you think we will see anything from COOP prior to 6/30/2021 to send $$ our way?
What did you hear? Or is this a false statement?
You'll Get Paid Interest on your "released" WMI investment, and to the tune of a lot more than you probably put in,
Well I should hope so but the money I have in this and the 13 years/9 years of waiting if what I get is not in the millions (with an s) then I have been screwed.
GO COOP, GO COOP ... and ? "to hell" with the disruptors', and supporters of these delays', ... many innocent people have suffered due to the delays' ...
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Yes, I agree. Most or all are very tired and ready for this to end ASAP like as early as "Tomorrow" and no "Later than 6/30/2021". I must admit that I'm not good at understanding the wording in the filings but I do understand the words "end date and $$" which we have not received from the powers in charge and in the know. Until that is communicated or process everything else is hearsay. Using Alice as an example of the hearsay ... getting info from her source which apparently did not know all the facts.
I agree with your comments. She needed to be stopped with filings because someone has to take the time to respond. If nothing happens on 6/30/2021 as stated per her source which she did not want to identify she deserves to pay the sanctions....no negotiations. Waisted time and for what? As an attorney she should have known that you have to have facts and not hearsay.
Not sure why you keep posting this. According to AZ "Coop is the Tell" and when they (The BOD) do what is suppose to be done the stock will fly. I would think that Bray would know this...so are we to believe this statement by him?
I hope she is negotiating the elimination of the sanctions and letting this go. I know people have stated that she is not holding things up but I believe this unfinished business is preventing anything from happening.