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This is disgraceful. I'm serious this management team needs to get out. They absolutely stink and have had plenty of time. I'm tired of all this dilutional thinking and promises from Weisel and his crap. He hasn't delivered on anything. Terrible settlement, worthless acquisitions, nothing. The stock price is telling us everything. Weisel had every chance in the world to get this thing moving a month or so ago, but of course his inexperience and lack of direction blew everything up. I really tired of his crap and really think he may not be the right person. They've sold almost nothing for 4 years. I'm starting to believe that he is living off of us shareholders. Hence the reverse split. He'll probably do it again. Really PO'd about this incompetence and lies. Good day.
Weo, I'm negative because I have been here over three years with negative price appreciation. Weisel has been telling us about all of these nice things and nothing is happening. Weo, you know as well as I do that price appreciation is all that matters to investors. I am an investor and they have not performed. I've kept my part of the bargain by being a long term investor and they haven't delivered. At some point, I'm going to have to just call this a dog and move on. I keep giving them more and more time and nothing happens. How much time is enough? They have had over three plus years to make something happen. All that has happened is they have burned through a whole bunch of money and did a reverse split at the shareholders expense. Does that pretty much sum up why I am negative at the moment. At some point they have to deliver and proof they are a penny stock and a penny stock management team.
Wow, monster PR this morning. Walt's really got this PPS moving up. I can hardly control myself with all this excitement. Really, is this the best they have after all these months. What a joke.
Oink Oink, nice job Wiesel
I'm starting to think we have been sold a bag of goods here. There just is never anything tangible here. Settlement wasn't good, very few sales, no announcements, piss poor acquistion recently, and just not much information. I'm really starting to think we aren't much of a player and I am stuck with a lot of shares. It used to be you could talk to Weisel, but he is invisible now. Leads me to believe he is tired of everything and just doesn't have the answers to move this company forward. Boy I hope I am wrong, but the share price is saying this loud and clear and they must not see it. Good day.
This thing has gone back to no one caring about it. Dissapointing how all this played out. It appears that is all we settled for. If so, that is rediculous and tells me a heck of a lot of what we are dealing with in this company. Penny stock team.
Rodeo, if I recall you said there would be more PR's clearing this mess up this week. Well?
What a sick POS. This is a joke. Management has no idea on how to increase shareholder value. We are now down 60% from last week. Great job managment team. Almost 3 years and we are less than ever before. Tired of all these speculative crap PR's from managment and nothing ever happens. If any of it was real our share price would reflect it. Maybe they are working out of a garage after all.
Chunga no chance I buy any more shares until I see management show that they give a rats ass about shareholder value. I see none of that going on. What they did with this settlement was a debacle and poorly managed. Pretty much sums up the compnay over the last 3 years. I'll just hold and hope. It has now come down to hope, since the settlement was our best chance to move to the next level in my opinion. Once again, I hope there was more to the settlement than what was released.
Well were now down 55% since last Friday. Super job
Same old dumping of shares. POS
Guys someone must know someone hear in the know. If you are in the know can you please provide some other details from the settlement that will keep us loyal longs excited about this investment? After reading this document there just has to be something else and someone knows it. Can someone share something of substance here? Thanks.
Spin is this publicly posted somewhere? Possibly ABB put this out. How and where did you come by this? This really peaks my interest and tells me their is something much much more. Anyone else think the same thing?
Well we are now half of what we were on Friday in only two days. What a super company we have here. Same old nothing. I think the settlement was the one thing that could have taken this company to the next level. However, it was handled so badly it made it worse. Just another example of management not understaning the stock market and what is needed. They just don't get it.
And the stock price is less than it was 2 years ago. C'mon Spin lets be real here. Performance is judged by share price in this business. They have failed miserably there. Facts are facts. Whatever they have done in the past needs increase share price and it has not
Piece of Crap. Walt has no idea on how to bring shareholder value. I should have gotten out on last weeks move. Looks like all the excitement from last week was just a mirage. What do you expect when a company takes 3 years to settle and puts out they only got 2.9M. That to me is a joke and says a lot about what is going on. Then on top of that they can't say nothing on anything else. A good management team would have found a way to put out some more to increase shareholder value. Just another example of not knowing what to do.
Same old dumping. Your right we are dead without additional details from the settlement, if there are any.
Of course it is Spin. These guys have no idea on how to build shareholder value and to keep momentum moving forward. They just don't get it. I guess that is why they are a BB stock on the OTC. I was this close to moving on Friday afternoon. Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda.
What a joke momentum is gone now. Unless thye have something more tied to the settlement that can be put out, this is done for a while. If they settled for 3M and it took three years to do so, what a joke. I sure hope we have a management team that is better than that. Basically all of last week has been taken out and discounted. Unbelievably dissapointing
For some reason I think there is so much more to than the 3 million. Take a look at this below. We shall see, as I certainly expect more.
Patent royalties
In the United States, a patent owner, or patentee, is legally entitled to no less than a "reasonable" royalty from an entity that infringes said owner's patent. If the patent owner has lost profits due to infringement, and if said lost profits are more than a reasonable royalty, then the patent owner is entitled to a royalty up to the amount of lost profits.
Normally, a patent owner and a patent infringer will negotiate a mutually agreeable license so that the patent owner will give the patent infringer the legal right to make, user or sell the patented invention, and the patent infringer will compensate the patent owner in some manner.
If they cannot come to agreement, the patent owner may sue the patent infringer in a U.S. federal court. 99% of the cases that are filed are settled before the court reaches a decision. If the case does go to trial, however, then evidence will be presented related to validity of the patent, whether or not it was infringed, what a "reasonable" royalty is in the field of the patented invention and what the patent owner's lost profits are. Evidence will also be presented as to whether or not the alleged infringer "willfully" infringed the patent. If the court finds that the infringement was willful, then punitive damages may be assessed. Punitive damages may be up to three times actual damages.[1]
Pink, why do you say that? Doesn't seem like all that much at all. Are you assuming that their is something else not being mentioned in the 8k? I sure hope so.
Are you kidding me with this 3M settlement? What a joke. Walt spends all this time and money and settles for 3M. I sure hope there is something else, as this is rediculous. Wow.
Is that you More? Long time no hear. Seems like some old-timers in the mix, as I was crazy355 on the bull board. Top of the mornin to ya More. Good day.
Still holding long and strong. Kind of surprised it isn't up more. Way to cheap.
Congrats Weo. Man can you beat this. Can't wait.
I guess we will have to see. I just realized it is also my birthday tomorrow. Really. Could be the best one ever.
Guys, I know it may be a little early, but any thoughts on share price once this is announced or tomorrow, next week, next month. Will it stabalize, like I think it will?
Guys, are you kidding me. Fantastic news!!! Anyone have any details. I will check my Pacer account, I guess. Finally, I hope we get a huge pop.
Weo, I appreciate your positive spirit but their in nothing new here. Nothing to get the stock to move. While I do see progress, I don't see enough. They need a major contract, the lawsuit, or something else. In fact, I think that PR is fluff. We need substance for once. I hope it is on the way, as I've been a shareholder easily as long as you Weo. We've traded a couple of emails on the old bull board. At any rate, I'm optimistic, but we need some substance to get this moving.
Same old, same old. No news ever. What is with these guys. They haven't put a PR with revenues in months. Walt promises all these good things and nothing ever is delivered. Also, same old dumping to keep the doors open going on. All I want is one Walt's promises to come true. Nothing ever seems to. C'mon now.
Robo's right. It's all crap until we see results. All Walt and company has provided is mumbo jumbo. Nothing has come to frution as we have been told. It's time to make something happen. I mean how long does it take? C'mon now, lets get going. Man.
Also realize they could ask ABB to pay for all the legal fees as well as an award.
Boy, this board has really become a pile of crap. It used to be a place to get some good info. Now it is infested with garbage. Wow.
Weo, I hope their is something on the way. The reason they have cash is because they keep dumping shares at our expense. I hope that ends or our goose is cooked. They need to start delivering to shareholders.
Weo, I know you won't believe this but I was also told possible acquisition a little while back. However, not sure if the dumping of shares is related to this.
Look at all the volume. I thought the S-8 was only for a million shares. I know for a fact we have traded more than that the last 4 days. Something doesn't add up here again. Trusting this management team has proven to be ver costly. Integrity is so important to a shareholder. Unforfunately, I have lost all of that with this management team the last week or so. They basically said screw the shareholder and do whatever it takes to stay afloat.
Has anyone gotten a hold of Weisel. This guy needs to be accountable. He hasn't done anything he has promised. What a joke and a guy that can't be trusted anymore. Good day.
Harry are you still pumping this crap. The management team has basically lied to our faces with that shareholder letter. Are you serious with your banter? This crap was planned and they knew it. In addition, this isn't selling by retail this is S-8 dumping. The only way they can pay employees is through share dumping. This company isn't even close in my opinion. They continue to tell us crap to string us along
Ya, Management is our friend. I guess Dmetri was right. What a scam. I'm not sure what kind of business they have. I never see PR's with sales. The only thing worth hanging on for is the lawsuit. I think that is the only thing management is hanging their hat on. I just don't ever see anything else that has any teeth. We have been fooled.
Spin -
That open letter says it all. Walt has done a great job with that piece of mumbo jumbo hasn't he. This guy has proven over and over he doesn't execute and can't be trusted. I wish that weren't the case, but he has never delivered anything of value to shareholders.