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I don't mean to interrupt this debate, but what do you think the company has brewing to justify such growth? I have plenty of shares, so I'm hopeful, but I'm also a realist and I'd like to hear something with sound reasoning to make me feel a little better about this investment.
Can you give a couple of scenarios which have the potential to materialize?
The last press release and the poster in Germany was disconcerting.
Sabir Saleem is his name...
It's a glitch of some sort. Multiple stocks are showing the same thing.
I'm not sure why it is showing up that way, but it's not the only stock, so I wouldn't read anything into it...
I am a little confused by the this press release. The headline reads: "MultiCell Technologies Announces Positive Preclinical Results for MCT-465 and MCT-485..."
The poster/abstract (for those of you who took the time to read it) states that based on other observations outlined in the poster they are conducting pre-clinical research on MCT-465 and MCT-485. This abstract DOES NOT give any preclinical results whatsoever. It simply states they are pursuing a hypothesis, not that they have actually accumulated any data to support the hypothesis.
This press release, particularly the headline, is very questionable... I believe it is intentionally misleading.
For those of you who have never been to one of these medical conferences, let me tell you that "poster presentations" are a dime a dozen. These presentations are done in a large halls with rows and rows of mini-billboards with hundreds, sometimes thousands of these posters lined up one after another. Many times it's a student or fellow answering questions to those who are passing by.
The really hot data is presented in "podium presentations" where the presenter speaks to hundreds of attendees in a dedicated time-slot. These presentations are the ones to get excited about, because they usually contain breaking news, or something very novel.
Look at the superficial poster (078) and compare it to the others in the meeting program book. It's not encouraging. Where are the "results"??
Evidence defeats doubt...
http://meeting.cimt.eu/files/dl/CIMT_Abstractbook_2012.pdf
Yes. That seems plausible. Luckily for all of us it's been kept a secret and the price has been diminishing. Only a lucky few will have known about this cure for cancer. The big shots on Wall Street have overlooked this, despite the press releases, right?
Yes, extremely plausible that MCET has come up with the cure and nobody is investing big money...
It's pre-clinical data. There are no "outcomes" as defined by the ability to induce a clinical remission or prolong life. Pre-clinical data is used to support a hypothesis. However, there are many, many more steps before this becomes anything other than interesting... And those steps take big $$$$$$$
Where is the partner?
Simon is correct from this perspective - preclinical data is only meaningful IF it can be translated to human studies: A. In an area of unmet medical need; B. If the risk/benefit ratio is sufficient to justify an FDA approval.
However, pharma is constantly investing in the preclinical work of smaller companies and forming alliances. THAT is the news which will be a game changer. MCET will NEVER be able to commercialize anything on its own without substantial help from a third party. But I'm not about to rule out a third party coming on board... Holding :)
As always Harr, you provide something concrete and valuable. Evidence defeats doubt... Well done!!
I appreciate a strong dose of skepticism as much as anyone, however, I take great offense to our new board being portrayed as the equivalent to the scum bags. Missing a deadline by 48 hour to provide a an update which states nothing, is not the same as falsifying documents and posting a series of fraudulent PRs.
I'm giving the new group a full year to show value.
Did I?
I think you need to go back and read my posts. I was always skeptical. Particularly, the day the of the release of the "FINAL DRAFT AUDIT" which was an oxymoron. You are misinformed and mischaracterizing me. I NEVER stood behind the other creeps. Kakani is the only one I trusted, but that was only after speaking with him myself.
How many of board directors have you contacted? How many letters have you written? How many grievances have you filed? How many letters have you sent? How much money have you loaned the company?
Even while the board was slobbering over Lacle's "impressive" biography, I wasn't convinced. Evidence defeats doubt...
Which leaders? Be specific? You are grouping the new with the old. One group is criminal.
Please be specific. Do you think the new group is also criminal. If so, please state your specific rationale. The group needs to know.
Personal attacks on a two-day delay? Really?
Harr,
You're missing the point. If they are TWO DAYS late with PR which states nothing of material relevance, then they are JUST LIKE the last group of criminals according to some.
Forget the fact that every PR the last group issued was materially false. No empathy. No respect.
I'm not suppressing anyone's point of view.
Every person on this board has a vested interest, however, it's sad how few people actually have stepped up to be part of the solution.
To each his own.
When one of you starts loaning the company money and donating 30-40 hours a week of their personal time, I'll probably be more sympathetic to the whining :)
The only downside to this thing turning around is not being able to watch you boil in your own pudding...
He is an unpaid director. He's essentially a volunteer. Any Girl Scout group in the country is in better shape financially and in terms of resources than what these director's inherited. This is not Apple or GE or Exxon. Our volunteer directors are doing the best they can. Give them just a little leeway...
But you've been saying that for months and months...
Probably not a bad call if it goes there. I think this will bounce back at some point, the question will be at what volume and how sustainable? The big breakthroughs are years away. The science is still in the initial stages. FUNDING is the key to get the stock moving again. If a major partner steps in, I can see the stock really gaining new life. However, those on this board who think petri-dish science is the same as large FDA-approved randomized controlled trials (RCTs) are not only clueless, but reckless...
Michael,
In your opinion the PR is every week. I mean, this has been going on with you a year. In fact, you predict a PR virtually every single day!!
You are crying wolf here... How is anyone supposed to give you the benefit of the doubt?
See if you can go a week posting with your head instead of your heart, please.
I think they all knew. They are all guilty and they will all eventually pay the price.
I agree. Not much left to debate and we all pretty much stand united that Lacle, Syed and Saleem are criminals.
Patience will pay off here...
Which women's supplements would those be?
That would be a "Big Program"...
You are "starting to like what you are thinking here"? What???? Why stop at $.20 gains and $100M in financing? Why not a merger with Apple?
A couple of weeks ago I bought some Mega Millions tickets and I must admit, I spent about 25 minutes daydreaming of hitting it big. However, wishing for something to happen and knowing something is going to happen are two different things. Try to work within the framework of logic and reason. You'll be more credible and this site will be more valuable to its followers.
I think you might be getting inside your own head here and your postings are progressively getting sillier and sillier...
HSM,
I thought you said we were getting a big PR this week? Are you unsure now?
Yes. I have taken the initiative to contact them through Investor Relations.
If you'd like to schedule time, I can create and walk you through a tutorial on how to write and send an email to Investor Relations. You'd be amazed at how different the world can be for those who do vs. those who do not...
How do you know they gave up? Are you there? Were you there? What evidence do you have? Or, are you just a hypocrite?
If the CDs could be recovered/located, then the LOC might exist, but without any assets, the LOC is torpedoed.
There is $13.5M in missing assets. I am shocked somebody is not going after that missing piece of the pie. Michelex probably can't because they have no money!!
Maybe some investors could pool their resources and hire a law firm to trace the CDs?
What exactly did you read six months ago? That would have been October 1, 2011. We hadn't even started removing the scum bags at that point. The new board was appointed on February 4th, 2012, which was less than two months ago.
I'm as anxious as anyone to see this turned around, but I'm not sure it's realistic to expect much in the first 60 days.
Remember, most of us bought our shares under previous management(s), not this group. They are not responsible for the issues at hand. Further, they are our only hope at a recovering any of the money we've lost due to the actions of the previous regime. Bashing them at this point may make you feel better, but it's counter productive.
Longer the wait, the bigger the fish...
Once again, we'll just have to wait and see...
Really? You seem to be "informing" this board that the new regime is no better than the last regime. Wasn't that your theme earlier today? You have all sorts of ignorant opinions. Like most of your opinions, you are misguided and misguiding. Give it a couple of weeks and I think you'll see different...
An "achiever" who can't figure out how to email investor relations? Good lord...
Fair enough.
I am simply disappointed that the tactic is to flame people on a message board who are sacrificing for others' well-being. How many of you would put your personal life on hold to save Michelex? How many of you would spend your own money out of your own pocket to do so? How many of you would work full time for free? How many of you have filed a grievance or filed suit against the scum bags who actually stole your money?
We need to cut these guys some slack. 15-20 days for an update is not all that long...
If you want to know if someone is working, email them. How old are you?
I know how hard they are working on saving Michelex. It makes no sense to provide an update when things are very fluid. They didn't inherit a reporting company with tidy book-keeping. They inherited a nightmare. The scum bags lied, cheated and stole, that much we know. However, they didn't leave a checklist and book of receipts to help the new officers once they were ousted. It's going to take some time...
Life will not be spoon-fed to you, Mr. Elcheepo. Sometimes you have to take some initiative.
I'm a little put off. People have put their lives on hold for your benefit. If had any idea what people are sacrificing for this POS company, you'd feel very, very small right now. That is if you are capable of any level of self-awareness. Stop being selfish. Give it 30 days and see what transpires.
You were the same guy who said we'd never oust the scum bags, remember?
I get the sense that he chicken-littles his way through life, which doesn't make him inciteful, it makes him the proverbial blind squirrel...
What did you do?
Maybe you could email investor relations and find out. Your 9 year-old sounds like he has more initiative. Take action.
If your 9-year-old had inherited a paper route from Sabir Saleem, Midhat Syed and Albert Lacle, you'd probably see a more complicated picture. Those idiots did a number on our MLXO!!
Let's be clear: This company was a complete cluster you-know-what. That was the reason shareholders (with the exception of Elcheepo), decided to take action and have the scum bags removed.
It will take some time for the new officers to get things sorted out, but I think by mid-April we'll be seeing what transparency under the new regime will look like. I expect it to be MUCH more credible.
Stay patient...
You could be right. With a climb to a penny a very real possibility, I think people will realize it's a bargain from here on up. Time to add!!