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KB: Not GPS. Runs behind the seens and sends messages via to Absolute periodically. They will trace it once you alert them it is stolen/lost. Maybe via ip addresses?
http://www.absolute.com/Public/computracepersonal/notebook-security.asp
http://www.lojackforlaptops.com/support.asp?section=faq&g=mb
VH: GW using Broadcom TPM 1.2 on NIC
GW "was adopting a special network card, made by Broadcom Corp., which incorporates a TPM that complies with the Trusted Computing Group's TPM Specification Version 1.2, the latest available security chip standard.
Mobile Theft Protection $125 for a 3 year subcription from Gateway/Absolute. Foreshadowing of future Wave TPM service revenues?
VH: Let Gateway Tell about their software per SKS
A slip perhaps that could be Wave ETS or at least ESC/CSP.
As I posted last week I contacted Gateway to order a couple laptops/desktops but first wanted to know TPM version, manufacturer, utility/config software. Rep would research and follow up.. 2 days later having heard nothing called again and the same rep was trying to find answers to follow up. Have heard nothing.
Must be stealth until a future pr describing their tpm software.
ES: Its amazing what the current SP, off delisting watch, does for SH morale. HJ had legitimate concerns on Q1 cc and called SKS on them. His apology today makes them come across as them being unnecessary concerns.
KTM ES AD customer mentioned but not by name in Q1 CC?
Chip revenue less than 50% of Q2 per SKS
Re: Seagate: Trusted Drive Manager module being developed by Wave.
(From Q2 PR)
New PC OEM - SKS "will let Gateway" discuss their software. Look for them to announce in near future. Expected them to announce a month ago.
AWK: RE: TAN Working with gov't customers for 2 to 3 years. Root keys would be hosted by EDS. Not pushing TAN because not it not for TC/TPMs although they will work with these interested customers. Key management for TC/TPM is rolled up into KTM ES AD and this is where Wave is focusing there sales efforts.
You were correct that TAN is not for TPMs because they are not programmable EMBASSY chips.
Yes - All accounts up over 100%. May have seen last PP. Have not seen much of the OEM revenues yet which I take to mean Dell, a PC OEM, versus STM a chip OEM who has shipped 1.2 to Dell.
SKS - Dell is slow to update their website. Stronger pricing model via Dell to come. May explain why DE 1.0 was missing from checkout recently.
Diebold, Tvtonic not in Q2 Progress PR
Doma: Diebold
Thank you. I remembered reading the article within the past few weeks with Wave mentioned but could not locate it. Also have seen Intel MB and TPM specs on Diebold Opteva ATM at DB web site with no mention of Wave.
Thank you once more.
may1sep2 SCR
The SCRs you found go way back to the EMBASSY programmable chip Wave developed in the late 1990's when they were working on SCR solutions for FINREAD. Financial card readers for a banking group in Europe more specifically Belgium. NEC Packard Bell of Europe tried to market a "trusted pc" in Europe with this technology built-in. This was the time of the TCPA which was the predecessor of the TCG. TPMs were nowhere back then. EMBASSY is a Rolls Royce version of todays Mitsubishi TPMs.
Doma: Any existing joint PRs with Diebold/Wave?
Or just hopeful. I could not find any at wavesys.com news archive nor Tony's matrix.
Jaybeaux:
Thank you, I think, for eliminating gorilla Bank of America from customer list, for now.
Barge/Awk:
Thank you for resolving KTM ES AD/ACM for TCG/TPMs versus TAN for EMBASSY in a civil, professional manner.
Barge good job being open to Awks point of view.
Wave DD role models for the day.
Kingsfull: Please do further DD and post
Will SiteKey require your pc to have a tpm?
Could Bank of America be the KTM Server customer SKS menitoned in the Q1 CC?
Thank you.
1st
Barge/2B: NC Dell, Diebold plants hiring
2B the champion Wavoid DD'er send a completed application and your resume ASAP.
Dell - opening a new East Coast factory just outside Winston-Salem, NC in September.
And approx 20 minutes south......
Diebold - has a functioning ATM plant in Lexington, NC that TV news earlier this week said is hiring 200. Great barbecure and bass fishin' are pluses for new hires to relocate. I called and they are hiring throughout the factory primarily for 2nd shift. Must work through a temporary agency at first. I want to help but I will not working 2nd shift in Lexington, NC. I asked if they had a showroom to demo the ATM's and they do not because they are strictly manufacturing. Although they do ship globally.
A true champion DD'er would find out if SKS, LA, BB have significant travel expenses to/from NC/Lee.
Barge: "human elements of power and trust"
While I agree with your TCG political spin on the above quote, I am still concerned about it in terms of KTM ES AD placing too much trust in System Administrators as the sole recovery keys holder, which gives him/her too much power. They would have the means to crush organizations of all sizes that employee them. Not unlike many of them could before tpms. Admins and CIO's are obviously careless with our confidential data at financial and other industries as we are sadly learning in the press daily.
Outside of having internal controls to separate this resposibility across more employees or departments than IT/MIS, I do agree that Wave's TAN could be an objective holder of the keys.
So, if Wave TAN alone or TAN IP licensed to 3rd parties becomes the standard for holder of the keys Wave needs to employ hackers to try find holes and get keys from the TAN(s) because Wave would have a bullseye on them like MSFT and Cisco today. Wave must diversify TAN servers and mirror them across global locations, and get some huge liability insurance. In addition, WAVX shareholders better keep eyes open for a TAN or KTM ES AD key security breach as it would hammer the share price if Wave did not respond appropriately.
Snackman: % of $90bil on security?
Not enough as evidenced by all the data banks and financial entities lost through carelessness and easy hacking in the press this year. The FDIC report, Dielbold Opteva ATM with tpm, and Visa and Amex cutting ties with the lax/hacked CSS check card processor are encouraging as they bring to the forefront opportunity in 2005 more than ever for Wave and trusted computing allies. Signonline for bank mortgage departments should also gain traction this year.
Did Diebold issue a PR with Wave or are we only hoping? I cannot find on wavesys.com news archive or Tony's list so looks like the answer is no.
Off v Online attacks; Administrator trust and power
1) Offline versus online attack prevention - I understand how secure startup will thwart offline attacks like trying to boot the pc with a cd or floppy, or taking hd out and trying to boot it in a different pc. The tpm recognize not same os and will deny access and prompt for a recovery key. However what about online attacks. A hacker comes in through a open firewall port, a virus executes. On a tpm enabled pc The virus could execute in a unprotected partition of the hard disk, if any. If user makes it through firewall an gets password that are in the clear he can view hard drive if it is unencrypted. Well, I am about to solve my scenarios. Virus would not be allowed to execute on pcs that are tpm enabled. Virus will not make it through firewall if untrusted .exe and future firewall hardware had a tpm. I think a TPM world should not need firewalls and anti-virus software. Also if the pc(s) are tpm enabled passwords will be sealed and hard drives, thanks to Seagate Momentus, and Vista, will be encrypted.
All of above assumes TPM encyption, FDE, sealed keys, absolutely cannot be hacked. The geeks will try.
Have the TCG and Wave asked them to try and hack for R&D, validity, liability purposes?
2) System Administrators will have access to recovery keys per KTM ES AD to migrate data to new employees, recover data after a TPM is fried, etc. So the human elements of power and trust still exist in trusted computing. Lets say the IT admin is PO'd and just before he quits he, well, you know, locks all data and throws away the keys. Scary. You'd better do a pre-hire psych evaluation and criminal check. I imagine the way to prevent this is to give employees other than IT this privilege, like CEO, Chairman of Board, a third party certified by gov't or TCG as a saint. That party could be none other than the Wave and its TAN or ACM Barge promotes daily.
Thank you for allowing me to think out loud.
Bank CYA letter re Visa/CSS check card hack
Visa informed my bank that Card Systems Solutions, Inc., a third-party that processes check/debit card transactions at over for over 100,000 retail, mail order, and Internet merchants, had an incident involving unauthorized access. A computer hack between 8/2004 and 5/2005. My check card number, name as it appears on the card, expiration date, and magnetic strip data were potentially exposed. Well, I try not to use check cards over the Internet and mail order so must have been brick and mortar retail.
Of course my bank was not at fault and CSS is not a service provider of theirs. Also, they have no evidence my card has been used fraudulently or for identity theft purposes. Whew! I can sleep tonight. They will cancel my card 8/31/2005 and reissue a new one. They need to cancel it today. Earth to FDIC. Help!
To top it all off the letter is from the VP and Director of Customer Experience. Oh! My heart flutters.
They will be learning of Wave, TPMS, and specifically Diebold ATMs as soon as I can get an email together. Also need some retail card reader names involved with TCG and Wave to give them.
I guess I'd better catch up months of reconciling my account statement.
24601/Wildman262: Market Share of OEM is 53.5%. That leaves 46.5% for white box makers. Intel supplies many of them with motherboards. How many of their pcs will have the Intel TPM with ETS bundled motherboards?
That could be a huge KABOOM!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=5037625
The leaders by %:
Dell 16.4% HP 13.9%
IBM 5.2%
Fujitsu Seimens 3.8
Acer 3.2
Gateway 3.2
Toshiba 3.2
Nec 2.6
Lenovo 2
Snackman: Requested a quote from Gateway yesterday for TPM enabled pcs. They said they have what I need. I informed them I am comparison shopping versus Dell, HP, IBM so I need to know:
1) TPM 1.1 or 1.2?
2) Manufacturer of TPM? He said they multisource so it may not be possible to pinpoint which TPM manf. I would receive. I told him since TPMs are so new to GW they may only have 1.
3) What software is included to configure and manage the TPM? In other words what is version 1.0?
Its been over 24hrs and have not heard from him so they are either in stealth mode until PR, or ignoring me since I am a not an enterprise or gov't user needing 100 pcs.
The saleperson did not know what a TPM is but after putting me on hold for all of 20 seconds while he asked a trainer/product specialist came back and said they have what I need and he appreciated me calling so he could learn something new.
Will post when he answers my questions.
Vader: Nice DD on IBM and TPMs in casinos. Look forward to PRs with Atmel 1.2s.
And I thought Alexbui named you in the good company of Wavoid hard core posters Snackman, Doma, and Eamonshute only because he is a Star Trek nut and is mistaking you for Darth. Oh well I'll bet he will have an Elvis sighting when we convene in Vegas.
Ramsey2: Consumers select key mgmt vendor
I agree Lee is not sweating because if MSFT gets in the game consumers will have the luxury of comparison shopping and Wave should get orders from many of them. See 89402 below.
Sheldonlevine: Server based MSFT Key Utility vs KTM ES AD
Although developments with Longhorn server now in private beta testing are important, after thinking about the scenarios below I do not think they will break Wave.
1) MSFT builds a utility software like KTM ES AD into LH Server software which would make Wave a competitor, and give consumers a choice. This would be similar to Netscape vs IE, Real Player vs Win Media Player, Veritas Backup Exec vs XP Pro Backup, MS Money vs Intuit Quicken, Symantec Antivirus/Security vs MSFT upcoming products in Symantec's realm of expertise, Yahoo vs MSN, XP vs Redhat Linux, etc.
In other words, MSFT often tries to be the jack of all trades but many customers prefer the master's product. Like MSFT competitors above Wave and KTM ES AD, ETS 5.0 will survive.
2) The numerous existing Windows 2003 Servers with AD could use KTM ES AD by adding the optional IBM PCI coprocessor before new servers are available with a built-in TPM. They will need a solution before Longhorn Server software and compatible hardware deploys.
3) When servers are available with TPMs end users can buy them and install Windows 2003 Server versus upgrading to LH Server. They could then purchase and install Wave's KTM ES AD. Or like 1) above they could install LH Server for non-TCG improvements and choose KTM ES AD for TPM key management.
Mymoneybgone: Re: Hackers
I would like SKS, and TCG members to discuss how much they hire hackers during R&D to harden their TCG products. I think it is crucial they do so.
From the article you posted: Unsecure unencrypted wireless internet access through hotels router. ATMS hacked, RF ID tags hacked @ 69 feet.
Public access points in hotels and other hot spots should be required to use WEP, etc. Wavesys.com says they have solution for wireless access points although have not seen it. Diebold and Wave are developing a solution for ATMs. RF hmmmm! Homeland Security needs solution.
Sheldonlevine: Server based MSFT Key Utility vs KTM ES AD
Although developments with Longhorn server now in private beta testing are important, after thinking about the scenarios below I do not think they will break Wave.
1) MSFT builds a utility software like KTM ES AD into LH Server software which would make Wave a competitor, and give consumers a choice. This would be similar to Netscape vs IE, Real Player vs Win Media Player, Veritas Backup Exec vs XP Pro Backup, MS Money vs Intuit Quicken, Symantec Antivirus/Security vs MSFT upcoming products in Symantec's realm of expertise, Yahoo vs MSN, XP vs Redhat Linux, etc.
In other words, MSFT often tries to be the jack of all trades but many customers prefer the master's product. Like MSFT competitors above Wave and KTM ES AD, ETS 5.0 will survive.
2) The numerous existing Windows 2003 Servers with AD could use KTM ES AD by adding the optional IBM PCI coprocessor before new servers are available with a built-in TPM. They will need a solution before Longhorn Server software and compatible hardware deploys.
3) When servers are available with TPMs end users can buy them and install Windows 2003 Server versus upgrading to LH Server. They could then purchase and install Wave's KTM ES AD. Or like 1) above they could install LH Server for non-TCG improvements and choose KTM ES AD for TPM key management.
Microsoft Windows Longhorn Server Beta 1, released 7/27/2005
This slipped under my radar with the release of Vista (Longhorn) client beta 1 last week. For Vista client "Secure Startup is intended for enterprises with a management infrastructure in place to store the recovery keys, such as Active Directory". Wave's KTM Enterprise Server AD does this with the help of an optional IBM PCI coprocessor.
Will Longhorn Server have Waves KTM ES AD or a MFST version built-in? Longhorn Server will likely require a TPM 1.2 to be used instead of the IBM PCI coprocessor?
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/windowsserver/bulletins/longhorn/beta1.mspx
On July 27, 2005, Microsoft Corporation announced the release of the first beta software release of the Microsoft Windows Server code-named "Longhorn."
Windows Longhorn Server Beta 1 includes the core foundation and application programming interfaces (APIs) for server components. The goal of the beta 1 release is to gather feedback from original equipment manufacturers, independent hardware manufactures, system builders, independent software vendors, and developers who are participating in a PRIVATE beta program.
Windows Longhorn Server will provide customers with:
• A rock-solid server foundation that is secure, manageable, responsive, interoperable, and compatible.
• A platform that supports rapid development and delivery of smart and connected applications.
• Agility, to increase operational efficiency and IT effectiveness.
• Policy-based networking, improved branch management and enhanced end user collaboration.
More information on Windows Longhorn Server will be available in the coming months. For more information on Longhorn Client, now known as Microsoft Windows Vista, please visit the Microsoft Windows Vista site.
BerthaB: Its been a loooong time. 2005 PRs/Alliances have been in the works going back years. Take a further look at Wave's news archives @ wavesys.com. What a ride. The work of Wave, TCPA now TCG, and allies is coming to fruition with sunlight starting to shine down on them.
If Waves Embassy chip was the precursor of todays TPM, which it was, you would think Wave would recieve a "chip" revenue off each all manufacturers TPMs even if Wave utilities are not bundled.
Archives: Wave and NSM from 1999
NATIONAL SEMICONDUCTOR® AND WAVE SYSTEMS TO DEVELOP CO-PROCESSOR-BASED SECURITY SOLUTIONS FOR E-COMMERCE
http://www.wave.com/news/press_archive/99/990915nationalsemi.html
Santa Clara, Calif. – September 15, 1999 -- National Semiconductor® Corporation (NYSE:NSM) today announced a licensing agreement with Wave Systems Corp. (NASDAQ:WAVX) to jointly develop hardware-based security solutions for information appliances and PCs. The companies will integrate security technology developed by N*ABLE Technologies (recently acquired by Wave Systems) into existing National Advanced I/O products. These products will increase security levels to offer users a more trusted e-commerce environment.
The licensed security architecture provides a hardware platform that can reside in a secure device within the traditional PC or information appliance environment. This architecture creates a ‘virtual firewall’ environment for processing sensitive data such as payment or identity information. This type of environment is less vulnerable to viral and network-based attacks than processor- or software-based security solutions, in part because this platform is a hardware-based security co-processor that manages and processes the secure transfer of data to and from the information appliance or PC.
National and Wave anticipate announcing further intentions for these products in the upcoming months. These plans will support any anticipated open security standards for e-commerce and the trusted client-computing environment.
About National Semiconductor
National Semiconductor provides system-on-a-chip solutions for the information age. Combining real-world analog and state-of the-art digital technology, the company's chips lead many sectors of the personal computer, communications, and consumer markets. With headquarters in Santa Clara, California, National reported sales of $2 billion for its last fiscal year and currently has about 11,000 employees worldwide. Additional company and product information is available on the World Wide Web at www.national.com.
About Wave Systems
Founded in 1988, the mission of Wave Systems Corp. is to create the world's best
technologies and services to secure and sell digital information. With the recently completed acquisition of N*ABLE Technologies, Wave now has a comprehensive line of trusted client co-processor systems. Wave's technology is an inexpensive, open standards, hardware and software-based device that enables secure transaction processing and distributed information metering in users' PCs. Embedded in PC hardware and peripherals, set-top boxes and other devices, Wave’s trusted client technology is the foundation for client-based security applications and a new distribution and purchasing model for content and services. This low-cost, secure "system within a system" will enable the personal computer to assume an important new role in the evolving digital economy. By moving secure transactions to the desktop, Wave provides intrinsic value to the electronic commerce process, benefiting PC users, application developers, and hardware manufacturers. For more information, please visit Wave's corporate web site at http://www.wave.com
National Semiconductor is a registered trademark of National Semiconductor Corporation. All other brand or product names are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective holders.
Orda: Wave and Sun Java PR from 1999
http://www.wave.com/news/press_archive/99/990510sunjavacard.html
Wave Systems To Integrate Sun Microsystem’s Java Card Technology Into Consumer Devices To Extend EMBASSY E-Commerce Solutions
Java Card Technology Enables Application Developers to Create Secure Consumer Applications for a Wide Range of Consumer Devices
San Jose, CA, May 10, 1999 -- (OTC BB: WAVX; http://www.wave.com), a company that facilitates secure transactions in consumer devices, today announced plans to bring consumer-centric e-commerce solutions to desktop computers and other consumer devices. Wave Systems will integrate Sun's Java Card™ application framework into Wave's EMBASSY E-Commerce System. With Java Card application support, EMBASSY plans to provide a trusted, open-standards environment on PC hardware for Java Card technology-based smart card applications and typical smart card data such as bank account information, personal information, or stored value accounts to use in cash-like transactions on the Internet.
Today's announcement should simplify and facilitate financial transactions done at the consumer's device rather than at the merchant's server, thereby elevating user devices, including PCs, to a central role in e-commerce value exchange. In turn, dramatic new digital distribution models for secured content and services can be created by embedding a trusted client, the EMBASSY System, at the user's end of the network.
"Adding secure e-commerce and financial transaction capabilities at the point of consumption will speed the adoption of an exciting new model for digital content and distribution of services," said Michael Killen, President of Killen & Associates. "Just as important is open systems. The fact that Wave and Sun's technology are both standards-based and interoperable on a number of different platforms will accelerate industry-wide acceptance of their solution."
The EMBASSY E-Commerce System is a programmable, standards-based platform for running secure applications and securely storing important data and digital identities on individual PCs and other end user devices such as set-top boxes.
By adding standards-based Java Card capabilities to EMBASSY, developers using Sun's Java Card Application Programming Interface (API) will be able to create applications that execute on the embedded smart card hardware in PC's and other consumer devices, in addition to standard smart cards. The Java Card API is a widely supported blueprint for building applications to run on smart cards. The EMBASSY can leverage the major finance and technology industry investments in secure hardware, application development skills, and distributed applications.
"The Java Card platform is the established standard for smart card applications. EMBASSY is a perfect platform for incorporating secure Java Card capability in the PC and other devices, extending an integrated, multi-platform infrastructure for e-commerce," said Patrice Peyret, Director, Consumer and Embedded Systems Division of Sun Microsystems. "We are also delighted about the potential of having the EMBASSY-based trusted client system with Java Card deployed in a wide range of devices from home networks, to business oriented virtual private networks."
EMBASSY:
The EMBASSY E-Commerce System, recently announced by Wave Systems, is the first implementation of the trusted-client technology and will allow third-party software vendors to develop secure e-commerce applications that run in a trusted environment on multiple platforms.
"Wave System's open systems strategy for the EMBASSY System has been to integrate major technologies already widely deployed in order to leverage the current skills, applications and products across many platforms," states Steven Sprague, President, Wave Systems Corp. "This approach is an absolute requirement to achieve mass adoption of the trusted client capability, thereby enabling Wave Systems and many others to deliver exciting new services to end users."
Core benefits of the EMBASSY E-Commerce System:
PC and consumer OEMs will gain a new service delivery point in their platforms to benefit from new content distribution and services revenues that can be delivered and transacted in the client devices.
The software and content community can benefit from a new electronic distribution model, flexible pricing models and persistent content security inherent in trusted-client technology.
Consumers utilizing the EMBASSY technology will be able to quickly and conveniently use, purchase, pay-per-use or rent-to-own top entertainment, education and software titles directly from their own trusted devices.
Moreover, EMBASSY allows distribution through all content channels, including the Internet, cable television, data broadcast, satellite, or physical distribution media channels such as CD-ROM, or DVD. Consumers receive the flexibility of access to the broadest set of content and entertainment products while only paying for the services based upon their actual usage.
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About Wave Systems Corp:
Founded in 1988, the mission of Wave Systems Corporation is to create content distribution and secure services based on a new distributed trust model for e-commerce. Wave's core EMBASSY technology is an inexpensive, open hardware and software-based device that enables secure transaction processing and distributed information metering in users' devices. Embedded in PC hardware and peripherals, set-top boxes and other devices, EMBASSY is the foundation for client-based security applications and a new distribution and purchasing model for content and services. This low-cost, secure "system within a system" will enable the personal computer and consumer appliances to assume an important new role in the evolving digital economy. By moving secure transactions to the user, Wave provides intrinsic value to the electronic commerce process, benefiting PC users, application developers, and hardware manufacturers. For more information, please visit Wave's corporate web site at www.wave.com.
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Except for the statements of historical fact, the information presented herein constitutes forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors which may cause the actual results, performance or achievements of the company to be materially different from any future results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Such factors include general economic and business conditions, the ability to fund operations, the loss of market share, changes in consumer buying habits and other factors over which Wave Systems Corp and/or Atmel has little or no control.
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cmf Lets not limit future PRs to Gateway.
Still hopeful for HP, IBM with Atmel 1.2 or STM 1.2, and HP or IBM Edition 1.0 or even better ETS 5.0 bundled.
Awk: On 1/25/2005 NSM now Winbond announced supplying their TPM for the Thinkpad T43. The models you linked are older laptops that were likely built with a stock of Atmel 1.1 TPMs of which Wave was not bundled. Although, I think Windbond is only 1.1. So IBM will need to switch to a 1.2 supplier so either NSM steps up or Atmel, STMicro could take their place.
http://www.national.com/news/item/0,1735,1005,00.html
National Semiconductor Provides Security for Notebook Computers With Its SafeKeeper Trusted I/O Device
IBM Is First Manufacturer to Equip Notebooks With National’s Trusted Platform Module
January 25, 2005 – National Semiconductor (NYSE:NSM) announced today that IBM selected National’s SafeKeeper™ Notebook Trusted Input/Output security device for IBM’s latest notebook computer, the IBM ThinkPad T43.
Orda: MSFT has $30 billion in cash. Wow! There are not many companies they could not buy.
Ramsey2: Thank you. With Wave's Peter Sprague connection to NSM, now Winbond, we have should have favorable views by IBM via both Winbond and Atmel. Although, Winbond only has Safekeepers for TPM 1.1. Unless the desktop PC8374T, link below, which has no specs listed is their TPM1.2 version to be released in the future. It could be Winbonds part number for the original NSM PC21100.
I recall Wave's licensing relationship, if any, with NSM (Winbond) to be vague from SKS long ago CC comments. Have details?
PC8392T The SafeKeeper™ Notebook Trusted I/O device, http://www.winbond.com.tw/e-inbondhtm/partner/apc_pc8392t.html
TPM 1.1b
PC8374T SafeKeeper™ Desktop Trusted I/O device
http://www.winbond.com.tw/E-WINBONDHTM/partner/apc_004.html
kantblevit: Safe to assume at least as much as STMicro since the same utilities, ESC and CSP, are bundled.