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and many times it increases share holder confidence and the price actually rises in relation to the RS. RS are welcome news in most scenarios.
saying that RS is 'bad' is incorrect and is also painting every RS with a broad brush.
RS benefit players in certain scenarios while at other times it can be harmful.
The likely hood of a RS here is unlikely at these penny levels. If ever zvtk were to get into the dollars range then a RS could be more probably.
"Looks to me that a lot of people got in at .009 or higher. Think of those who bought on the rise to .016. "
Yes, and that can be attributed to just one or two single (fool) pumpers of which are highly praised on the yahoo forum.
A lot of people sold at a loss by listening to one or 2 main pumpers on yahoo. There are a lot of people still holding the bag from purchasing at the .0100 to .0150+ levels although most have sold at huge losses by now. In reality, there was no need for so many on that forum to have been strong but with the massive amount of pumping that was done buy just one single pumper and with the the further pumping and praise loaded on that person, many got in about the .0090 level and very many have now lost good fortunes.
To date, that pumper is still bumping his 'pumped' posts to the top. He has now taken up another identity to further load praise on his own posts through his new hidden identity.
We all have to watch out for stocks that are overly pumped and be especially aware of people like that who will take on multiple personalities on a forum in order to falsely heap praise onto their own posts. Watch out and trust neither the bashers nor the pumpers and especially be aware of the fact that some will have several ids in order to not cause to much alarm all the while pushing at 2X 0r 3X the speed thru different id's.
Charts are a 50/50 things at best. The best thing about charts is if you study them you will know how to read charts at which point you -might- have given yourself a 50/50 chance at Absolute Best. ;)
Charts don't tell you when a stock is being Manipulated and that Manipulation is what/why a pps is a pps. All Stocks Are Manipulated therefor charts are at times more useless then they are useful
Well we don't all live in the future so things filed on 1/21/2010 are new news to us.
- Small Company Offering and Sale of Securities Without Registration (D)
Date : 01/21/2010 @ 1:57PM
Source : Edgar (US Regulatory)
Stock : Atlantis Technology Group (OTC) (ATNP)
Quote : 0.0068 -0.0002 (-2.86%) @ 5:06PM
Expires: June 30, 2012
$105,820 buys a heck of a car stereo. Realistically this is just accumulated wages/salary.
Chris has publicly stated that he would not collect a salary until GoTV was up and running.
So are we to surmise that GoTV is somewhere near startup?
This may be a good news story found only thru the filling of some insider share sales.
I don't see any reason why there should be better volume this afternoon without further/valuable PR's. So far Volume is particularly light on today's trading and the markets in general are quite depressed.
Most people fail to realize that the biggest influence on any stock is in how the markets in general are performing.
This week in general has not been a good week for world markets.
I expect the Dow to bottom soon, probably at the ~10,400 level at which point we will all benefit from the support and burgeoning up rise. In this week of bear markets it is hard for any stock, ATNP not withstanding, to gain momentum.
while your math leaves something to be desired ;) I think the real issue in that trade was that the broker erred in entering the correct trade increment
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Atlantis-Technology-Group-Announces-Subsidiary-Global-Online-Television-Corporations-1104663.htm
Follow the above link to the PR, Click on the GoTV logo,
Where does IT take You?
Apparently you are wrong, the Link IS associated with GoTV/ATNP on some level. Not sure what's going on but that site is under the ATNP umbrella
New Website Link
Follow the link to this news release regarding todays ATNP PR,
now click on the "GoTV" logo at the top of the PR
Where does it take YOU?
That Link IS CORRECT
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Atlantis-Technology-Group-Announces-Subsidiary-Global-Online-Television-Corporations-1104663.htm
New Website is up and running! Link:
It's not yet fully functional, It IS Much more professional looking than the old temporary GoTV site that we are used to.
http://www.gotv.com/
Something positive
there, I said "it"
No reason to be tired here Smitter, still berry berry green from November low. It's all good to me. Just wish the pps would bump back up above .012 sometime soon at which point I can slice off another %10
I'll Probably wait until we reach just under resistance around .0150 or .0160 and I'll set my sell a few ticks below resistance to unload before the moral majority dumps on the share price.
He who dumps first, dumps the hardest
happy trading
moe
I think the mm's will hold this down until many of us longs sell off.
They have no intent on letting people with 5 or 10 million shares hold thru a huge push up.
mms don't make big profits off of us holding millions from the .0021 days.
In fact, if worse comes to worse I am sure they would love to push this back down that far in order to squeeze the shares out of us.
Truth is the market is rigged in their favor and they are not interested in letting money get away from them.
They will hold this sideways and down for as long as it takes to get as many of the old shares pulled off relatively cheap.The problem is that to many people got in on zvtk early on rather than chasing it up.
MM's don't like that
Keep up the good work, I for one support the US work in Iraq and around the world. Democracy!
I appreciate what you guys do for the good of the people.
moe from Canada.
MM's = market manipulation.
oh yeah, its running alright, down.
I kinda hope your wrong,
I'm hoping that it springs above .0110 and manages to stay there (this time) but not real confident about that unless we see some news
yeah but what if they were to upgrade this year to OTCBB and then take the next step to the NASDAQ? Then we might see this thing leave penny land.
Well I don't necessarily agree with all you have stated I would say that it's a lot closer to reality than most others.
I still have 6610000 shares left after trading some off at the peaks a few weeks ago.
will be waiting to get back up to .016 level before I slice off another %10. I don't think it will be to long of a wait before we see the next Real step up, -support at .0160 and high around .0200 to .0225. Here's hoping that it's not more than a few weeks distant.
Two major problems last week were that the markets in general were bearish and all stocks suffered plus the fact that the patent holder has started taking profits. And I do mean Started. Not sure if he has fully sold off the expected 2,500,000 shares that is slated to be sold. 2.5 mil doesn't really sound like that much but it was enough to hold the pps sideways on last weeks pr. I would expect that if he hasn't sold off the entire 2.5 mil that he will continue to sell more with every upcoming pr. This may again hold the pps somewhat sideways until he has taken all his projected profits thru the 2.5 mil selloff.
That wasn't Adam and that wasn't dilution as per say.
A P/E ratio of 10/1 is a best case scenario, since there are no real hard numbers on earnings yet, Ill be happy with a realistic conservative pps. Which is what the current pps is showing.
It's also possible that some of the shares were sold and more will be sold with upcoming news so as not to depress the pps too much.
This makes me think that they are planning to release another pr very shortly to help offset the negative effects of the insider sales.
Why are your estimates so overinflated?
Share price works out to about .02 cents not .48?
Not surprisingly, we are not far off of the .02 cent mark right now.
We might even have gotten closer to the .02 mark except for the fact that insider trades held the pps sideways on Friday.
And that in itself is not a real big deal.
Good point Smitter, the new round of infomercials starts in holiday monday.
I would like to think that zvtk planned the next batch of commercials to coincide with a fresh shipment of stock from the manufacturer as well as to have them air on the holiday right when everybodies relaxing in the couch.
Well I would agree, the pumping seems to have subsided a fair amount. All in all I think we have a good company here.
While it would be nice to reap huge profits right now I think in reality the real gains will be made thru Feb and into April. We are on the tip of the iceberg here.
Well I think that zvtk is way to 'over pumped', much of it by new inexperienced and/or excited investors.
That may be one of the reasons that the MM's are holding it at bay.
My personnel opinion is that sales are off to a great start (based on the CEO's statements/reactions).
They've given the manufacturer a heads up that they need to replenish the goods only after just a few weeks of sales. They've instructed the manufacturer to prepare to increased manufacturing and to get ready to ship in larger quantities.
So far all indicators are that they have better than expected sales/growth.
The current pps is based on the early sales estimates and when the first real saes estimates/numbers are released we will se us climb past the former .0162 high and maybe get into the .02 range. Also expect that once we get there we will see another pullback to our former high and the stock will trade in that range until we see futher pr's.
If Chris is smart, He will hit us with a 1-2 punch followed by a knock out 3rd blind line hit.
Good companies, Good CEO's know this and like to hold off on pr until they can bunch some together. This causes the pps to rock hard and find an even better footing to perch on once a new high is reached.
The one things that most investors seldom take into consideration is "the market in general"
What is the dow or the S&P doing on any particular day?
How are other companies performing in the market sector that zvtk resides in?
zvtk will be effected by the day/weeks market sector so if pr's are released during a bear session/week then expect a lesser performance even with good pr.
Time will tell.
PR this weekend? Friday for sure?? Maybe, maybe not,
It sure would be nice to have investors studying fresh pr with anticipation over the weekend.
But if not, if no pr..
- there will be other weekends and I would think that zvtk will releases their pr's when they have strong numbers to back them up and not before.
In my opinion, there's no reason for anyone to fret or get antsy when pr is slow to come.
These things take time. -Even with a pr tomorrow we will still be hungry for next weekends pr, and then the next.
ZVTK is a good company and the pps will rise over many weeks and months. No real need to worry because it's not reaching new highs this day, this week or this month.
Patience is a hard thing to sit on especially when we see a good thing and know what the future holds.
Give it a chance and patience can either make you money or cost you potential profits.
Hang tight guys, Its all good.
??? I was hoping you'd keep your promise and not talk to me
Generally a good sign of 'intelligences' is when someone starts trash talking or bashing a person rather than support their unfounded claims. It's also a good indicator as to a persons mental maturity and/or age.
My question would be, 'How low do you think the Market Makers are prepared to push this?
With no real prs, we saw the MM's push zvtk into the .0070s again and again. And without some forth coming strong PR we could expect to see retesting of the .0075 support and possibly a slide into the .0060's.
My positions are well grounded so even at .0060's I am still up several %100 but there are many out there that may get scared if/when it dips into the .0060s or beyond.
-Without some real pr, .0060's (or worse) could be a strong reality and the MM's would be more than happy to take shares back from scared rabbits.
Clearly we have all been listening to Amazing "Golden Cross Tomorrow" stories for weeks on end and you think we are now supposed to believe Your "Golden Cross Tomorrow" theory?
Come on, there were 500 posts by 200 kids before yours, what makes your "Golden Cross" so special?
I mean, are we all so poorly researched that after 3 weeks of "ZVTK Golden Cross" theories that we are now to believe the Next "Golden Cross NOW!!!!!" story?
Did you discover something that the other 200 "Golden Crossers" didn't???
Inquiring minds want to know...
Not only that, Think of how many times someone has popped up and stated that 'Tomorrow for sure, Trust Me".
It gets pretty long in the tooth after awhile. There seems to be no shortage of fresh uneducated pumpers migrating from lesser forums or from the depths of the lowest septic tanks popping in to inform us of how intelligent they are and that they have some sort of insider information that no one else is privy to.
Thanks Bucks, Always appreciate those that unselfishly share with the forum
One thing is obvious on this news:
"Holder RYU Registers 2,500,000 Of ZEVOTEK INC"...
Insider is expecting a nice peak. Why? PR after PR, Major/Much Good news/prs are very close, enough good news to run the pps up into an area that the copyright holder will be willing to take some of his due profits.
I see this as an indicator of much good news to follow -shortly.
Come on .oo65..
At least the bid and ask are tied to the last now. Nite seems to be taking a (temporary) break...
It's becoming more apparent that PR must be on the horizon. There's no other reason why NITE would be letting up on the bid.
Volume is sure waaaaay off
Again with the last and ask at .0060 and someone holds the bid at .0055 while shares are traded well above. Somebody should put NITE out of our misery
HH, you just have to learn to wait out the MM's. Stocks rise and stocks fall, The biggest mistake for most people is in being impatient.
If and when you find a good company, stick with it thru the thick and thin.
Good Companies, Good products and Good stocks always go places. They don't go places over night so a person just has wait things out