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for sure!
Not sure why I'm up!.... peace out!
Good point. That is the answer I give whan ppl ask why I invest with evfl and I tell them one simple answer, They paid off a huge amount of debt! Millions worth! Sounds like they have a plan for a future!
Take it for what it's worth... I'm sure DM is all over it
Special Report
Algae Biofuel
Algae Biodiesel Answers from an Interview with OriginOil CEO Riggs Eckelberry
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What are the benefits of using algae as a feedstock over other plants or fats?
Algae is better because it's a third generation feedstock.
First generation consisted of other food crops, which not only had implications for the world's food supply, but also impeded the amount of land available to grow it on.
Second generation solved the food problem, but not the land problem. These were feedstocks like switchgrass and miscanthus. And scalability became an issue because of the variety of grasses and locations where they were being grown.
There was no ubiquitous feedstock, grasses still needed high water and fertilizer inputs, and the path to large-scale viability was muddled.
As the third generation feedstock, algae solves many of the previous problems. It has a small foot print, meaning it doesn't need much land or water, and it can actually consume carbon dioxide as fertilizer.
And because it is grown in a closed-loop system, all input factors can be monitored and adjusted. This makes algae the only potentially ubiquitous (able to be grown anywhere) and highly scalable biofuel feedstock.
So algae as a biofuel feedstock solves the food vs. fuel issue, the land issue, the footprint issue, and the scalability issue. And it eats CO2.
How much can the commercialization of algae biodiesel combat our liquid fuels problem with respect to oil dependence?
Since algae is highly scalable it can do much to combat the liquid fuels problem.
Rather than get into specific numbers, let's cover the ways in which algae can do this.
First of all, there only a few concentrated areas remaining from which we can get large amounts of oil. Producing algal oil close to the end-use site, rather than piping or shipping oil thousands of miles, will soon prove more practical.
And unlike oil, algae is a renewable resource, capable of providing consistent amounts of oil as our fossil reserves grow harder and more costly to find and exploit.
Algae can also be more distributed because it's easier to build refineries for the oil. There are only a handful of traditional oil refineries, which already causes major bottlenecks. But building new ones has proven difficult thanks to NIMBYism and growing environmental concerns.
In the same vein as scalability, algae's ability to be granular (produced and refined near end-use) will do much to help combat fossil oil use.
Could you describe OriginOil's approach and industry advantages?
Well, for starters, OriginOil is a pure technology company. It is not our goal to be a major producer of algae biodiesel.
Instead, we're developing a series of technologies that break down each of the remaining road blocks preventing the widespread adoption of algae oil use.
The end goal is a model that would allow us to license our various technologies to algae producers. We're also pursuing a service model, assisting with the building of algae farms for other businesses. And we expect to ink distribution deals with Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs) for integration of our technology in their systems. Our first such prospective partnership is with Desmet Ballestra (more on that below).
The first technology in our suite is Quantum FracturingTM, which allows us to break down carbon dioxide, water, and nutrients to the micron level, called micro-bubbles. The nutrition bubbles are then introduced to the algae, allowing for instant and even absorption.
We also enhance the growth stage through the use of our Helix BioreactorTM. This growth vessel has a vertical shaft equipped with multiple lights allowing algae to be cultivated at multiple levels, rather than just on the surface of an open pond. The unique structure of the device also serves at the delivery structure for the fractured nutrients.
Lastly, we have a unique extraction system to harvest the oil from the algae. Since the mixture in the reactor is 99.99% water, this is often a difficult task.
Our one-step procedure combines the Quantum Fracturing technology with pH modification and electric pulses to break down the algae cells and release the oil. Gravity is then used to separate the water from the oil and the biomass.
This chemical-free, low cost method is OriginOil's major product, and can be used in their systems as well as licensed to other companies.
In fact, that process is already beginning through a recent partnership with Desmet Ballestra, an international leader in oil and fat technologies, to commercialize the extraction system. Preliminary tests have already shown it could save 90% of the energy used in traditional extraction systems while reducing capital expenditures.
So when can we expect algae to live up to its promise?
Well, it's living up to its promise in many ways right now. There are many applications being developed for algal oil that don't need large scale production or widespread distribution. This is the low hanging fruit that often isn't heard about.
For example, we know a company with numerous gas-fired kilns. Since they operate in the Kyoto zone, they have a substantial CO2 penalty. In this case, the operator plans to attach an algae growth system to these facilities, using the excess CO2 as nutrients, and the excess heat energy from the kilns to run the algae lights, pumps and chillers. The algae itself, a fast-growing oil-free version, will be gasified on the premises to be fed right back into the kilns, creating a perfect closed-loop solution.
There are hundreds of similar applications for this technology that can be exploited in years to come.
Also, we will see local, entrepreneur-driven community projects springing up. This is a huge shift from the old-time centralized energy model to a true distributed energy system that serves the exact needs of each community as they develop - always in a carbon-neutral way.
When it comes to algae replacing oil or providing all our transportation needs, that is still several years away.
Given algae's potential, where is the Federal support? Where's Big Oil?
Federal support is actually strengthening. Several national laboratories are pursuing algae research, working with companies to improve the refining process.
And there's also been support for using algae in water treatment applications. Recent water funds have gone to researching algae anaerobic digesters that would have clean water outputs.
Some money has also been set aside via the stimulus to research algae as a biomass fuel.
Big Oil has even shown limited interest. Shell entered a joint venture with HR BioPetroleum to build a demonstration facility. And Chevron has partnered with Solazyme to get a piece of the action.
With so much interest, where do you see the algae industry in three to five years?
There will be literally thousands of companies, with a strong resemblance to the early dot com era.
China will undoubtedly pursue this technology and spawn hundreds of companies, much like the solar industry is seeing right now.
There will also be a strong service industry--maintaining equipment, training workers, making small efficiency gains. And consolidation will follow, as big players pursue acquisitions and try to foster start-ups.
It'll be a multi-billion business, with applications that haven't even been discovered yet. That's why OriginOil is perfecting the core steps in the process today, so it can be a technology and service leader in the field as it develops.
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I agree with you 100%. Nice post.
I know we all want answers to many,many ?'s but honestly, I don't think DM can be very direct with any real meat. If it hasn't came out yet, He could those his position as CEO, if not worst for insider info! I'm sure there's ppl that actually view this board and many others, that would love to catch him saying something that would hurt EVFL. I'm not sure he'll ever say more than obvious answers like, They are on there way, Next week or sooner, we are working very hard. Those aren't that bad of answers to get but nothing to move on. We just need to take those little answers for what the worth and wait for the pr's.
I'm very Excited to see what's next. Good luck all.
Sounds like a lot of good news ahead! I'm thinking maybe there stalling on purpose. Maybe to get the buzz out and more people at attention, waiting for the the pr's. DM claming a ton of pr's sounds great. Hopefully news on the waiver being approved and e10, e20, e30 'or which ever one it was' fuels getting ready to be sold to the public in the pumps. Some grants would be great. I would especially love to see us moving on to the OTCQX!! GO EVFL!!!!!!!!!!!!
DOWN DOES NOT MEAN OUT! thank God! lol
I agree! I'm long as well! I've spent a few thousand dollars
into this stock. I have 2.5 M shares, I just wish I spent most of that money more recently instead of back in 07. Shoot if I just started out! I would be feeling just fine. I've been hanging in here for years, watching it fall, but knowing it will turn around. It has what it takes. They need to work out some obvious kinks!
Good luck All!!!
wolverine! The BIO-MAN!
Has there still been no news from Wolverine02?
Maybe it was a bad joke. I hope not anyway. I sure would love to hear something good.
What the deal? He went to evfl hours ago!
Just say " SHOW ME THE MONEY!!"
WOW! Nice move!
I think we will get our pr tomorrow IMO. On the + side he did responed saying "they are working very hard on a PR to be out ASAP"!
I think also 'IMO' It must be something good if it's taking all this time & work to put out. Hoping for the best.
Yeah well, 25 on blue!
Yeah, most of that was a repost. I did switch it up a bit and got rid of a lot of other things and added some. Like I said at the end, I believe and wanted to express myself with out waver!
I'm looking forward to this week! DM did say there would be a series of PR's that will come pretty quick.
DM does write me every once in a while and he strongly believes in what he's doing. I don't ever ask him any ?'s. For one, I won't get an answer. I believe that's because it could be bad for his job if the SCE ever heard any info in those lines. Here's one thing he wrote. Not sure if it matters much.
"I really appreciate this more than you know. We really are trying to build something great, its not easy, but will not give up, and in the end, I know it will work.
Best regards,
DM"
Lets keep our fingers crossed ,pray and hope for the best. I have a lot of things I want to get going. DM has been in the biz for 25 years, which is a good stretch! He has managed to gain millions with past companies and I think he'll pull this one off as well! It's not about buying a yacht or jet air plane for me anyhow. It's about gaining a million or 2 and building couple of business systems and making millions more for my future, kids future and my grandchildren future! Peace out and my you all be blessed!
Kuan, If your still reading, sorry you got caught up in the middle of a point I was trying to make! My Bad! Anyway, High volume today, lets hope for some good things next week!
I totally agree that most of what is said has truth to it. Most of us have the ability to discern the bad things. I'm not in to calling anyone out and I shouldn't have. It just gets old being reminded of what was bad and wrong. Seems like too many people think things work on their time frame. This will take some time and of course it's been a bumpy road. It's bad enough with our on conscious letting us know our money is not on the return or better yet the 100%,200%,300% upward movement! Sorry if I came out too strong. We're all here to make money, well most of us.
Peace out!
Thanks "Kuan" For being our Superhero! We really need your help, NOT!
Well, I trust that they're on there way. Give it sometime. One could come out today, I wouldn't hold my breath though. Should be good next week.
Thanks for the info Snow.
All Companies hit hard times in one way or another. Look at GM or Ford. Shoot even Smith & Wesson who I bought in at $10.90 back in Feb 07 and watched it hit over $22.00 a share. Than there was a bad year for hunting, sales went down, some bad reports and they tanked all the way to $1.53. Now there back up to $6.20. The list can go on and on and on! This is stocks Ladies and Gentlemen! Ride the roller coaster . Get off if you get sick! Evfl is in one of the most toughest sectors of our time! IMO Everybody wants a peace of the highly motivated demand of NEW FUELS. This country knows we desperately need to stop depending on foreign oil! This government has been flirting with the fact that they must get involved more in the alternative fuels here in America!! With every passing day that idea is becoming a reality. Yeah we've been beat down and kicked in the face. You used to be able to see that EVFL formally ebof hit a high of $7.23, closed out at 5 something. Some reason now it shows the old high at $3.62. I'm not sure why you can't see that anymore but we've been up there before! I think we can do it again. Our CEO DM is educated in the field of fuels. 25 years of work and he has proving his dedication to EVFL. It's going to take time. He's working his ass off to make things come together. I don't think we will see any huge movement tomorrow. I do believe we will make some more progress and keep moving forward. If you expect it to work right, you have to let him build a legit business system. Things will come together. A few more pieces of the puzzle and of course sales at the pump and our dreams will start to come alive! Hang in there. EVFL is a lot more advanced than many other companies. We have a lot of things going for us and a lot of muscle on the Board. The Government is not that blind, it just takes time.
In a lighter note...Am I the only one who thinks there is a lot of good looking Ladies on CNBC?? lol
I believe Willie started getting pissed with DM when he started venturing off into the LNG world. He wanted DM to get back to the basics when all they sold was BioDiesel and hit over $5.00 a share! I sure would like to see those days again!!!! That was one reason DM started shifting his focus back on the Biofuels industry!
"REPOST" SEC rule on 'naked' short-selling
short-selling now permanent
SEC makes emergency rule targeting 'naked' short-selling permanent
By Marcy Gordon, AP Business Writer
On Monday July 27, 2009, 2:25 pm EDT
Buzz up! 91 Print.WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal regulators on Monday made permanent an emergency rule aimed at reducing abusive short-selling, put in at the height of last fall's market turmoil.
The Securities and Exchange Commission announced that it took the action on the rule targeting so-called "naked" short-selling, which was due to expire Friday.
Short-sellers bet against a stock. They generally borrow a company's shares, sell them, and then buy them when the stock falls and return them to the lender -- pocketing the difference in price.
"Naked" short-selling occurs when sellers don't even borrow the shares before selling them, and then look to cover positions sometime after the sale.
The SEC rule includes a requirement that brokers must promptly buy or borrow securities to deliver on a short sale.
At the same time, the SEC has been considering several new approaches to reining in rushes of regular short-selling that also can cause dramatic plunges in stock prices.
Investors and lawmakers have been clamoring for the SEC to put new brakes on trading moves they say worsened the market's downturn starting last fall. SEC Chairman Mary Schapiro has said she is making the issue a priority.
The five SEC commissioners voted in April to put forward for public comment five alternative short-selling plans. One option is restoring a Depression-era rule that prohibits short sellers from making their trades until a stock ticks at least one penny above its previous trading price. The goal of the so-called uptick rule is to prevent selling sprees that feed upon themselves -- actions that battered the stocks of banks and other companies over the last year.
Another approach would ban short-selling for the rest of the trading session in a stock that declines by 10 percent or more.
In addition to making the "naked" short-selling rule permanent, the SEC and its staff are working with major stock exchanges to make data on short-sale transactions and volumes publicly available through the exchanges' Web sites, the SEC announcement said. It will result in "a substantial increase" over the amount of information currently required, the agency said.
"Today's actions demonstrate the (SEC's) determination to address short-selling abuses while at the same time increasing public disclosure of short-selling activities that affect our markets," Schapiro said in a statement.
SEC rule on 'naked' short-selling now permanent
SEC makes emergency rule targeting 'naked' short-selling permanent
By Marcy Gordon, AP Business Writer
On Monday July 27, 2009, 2:25 pm EDT
Buzz up! 91 Print.WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal regulators on Monday made permanent an emergency rule aimed at reducing abusive short-selling, put in at the height of last fall's market turmoil.
The Securities and Exchange Commission announced that it took the action on the rule targeting so-called "naked" short-selling, which was due to expire Friday.
Short-sellers bet against a stock. They generally borrow a company's shares, sell them, and then buy them when the stock falls and return them to the lender -- pocketing the difference in price.
"Naked" short-selling occurs when sellers don't even borrow the shares before selling them, and then look to cover positions sometime after the sale.
The SEC rule includes a requirement that brokers must promptly buy or borrow securities to deliver on a short sale.
At the same time, the SEC has been considering several new approaches to reining in rushes of regular short-selling that also can cause dramatic plunges in stock prices.
Investors and lawmakers have been clamoring for the SEC to put new brakes on trading moves they say worsened the market's downturn starting last fall. SEC Chairman Mary Schapiro has said she is making the issue a priority.
The five SEC commissioners voted in April to put forward for public comment five alternative short-selling plans. One option is restoring a Depression-era rule that prohibits short sellers from making their trades until a stock ticks at least one penny above its previous trading price. The goal of the so-called uptick rule is to prevent selling sprees that feed upon themselves -- actions that battered the stocks of banks and other companies over the last year.
Another approach would ban short-selling for the rest of the trading session in a stock that declines by 10 percent or more.
In addition to making the "naked" short-selling rule permanent, the SEC and its staff are working with major stock exchanges to make data on short-sale transactions and volumes publicly available through the exchanges' Web sites, the SEC announcement said. It will result in "a substantial increase" over the amount of information currently required, the agency said.
"Today's actions demonstrate the (SEC's) determination to address short-selling abuses while at the same time increasing public disclosure of short-selling activities that affect our markets," Schapiro said in a statement.
Good looking out Snow G!
This was a smart move on DM's part. This will be a step up and show some class. By making this move it forces them to lay all the cards down on the table and expose who they truly are. It will also push their hand to get things done in a more timely fashion. That should weed out the speculators and ppl who clam that evfl is a scam! This goes through, we should see some more promising movement!
Good News today! I also think it wasn't such a bad thing to get rid of this guy."950k" Who really knows whats next. I know that I've been in since early 2007 and I plan on holding for another 2-3 years. I expect this crazy Sh%@ for now. But I believe things will come together when the smoke clears! EVFL'S CEO has a strong game plan and he's not giving up! In his own words 3 days ago to me was.....
" We really are trying to build something great, its not easy, but will not give up, and in the end, I know it will work.
Best regards,
DM "
Hang in there lady's and Gentlemen! This will not happen over night. But I believe without a doubt, we will make our money! Enough to get a hell of alot more investments going and bring some extra security to our families!
last two days have been extra crazy! Maybe this is not such a bad thing to get rid of this guy. Who really knows whats next. I know that I've been in since early 2007 and I plan on holding for another 2-3 years. I expect this crazy Sh%@ for now. But I believe things will come together when the smoke clears! EVFL'S CEO has a strong game plan and he's not giving up! In his own words two days ago to me was.....
" We really are trying to build something great, its not easy, but will not give up, and in the end, I know it will work.
Best regards,
DM "
Hang in there lady's and Gentlemen! This will not happen over night. But I believe without a doubt, we will make our money! Enough to get a hell of alot more investments going and bring some extra security to our families!
Check out #7797 & #7795
They seem to be promising. I had my doubts of course last night, but they did say they were backed up and would put out a pr today saying they would finish up the report on Friday. #7797 says some things about what are CEO said!
I look at it like this, I'm disabled from a car accident and in my time FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO WORK! I've been studying business & investing. I get my info from books , college and best of all my Uncle Ron Covington a Great Entrepreneur from Colorado Springs. I bought in around .80 in early '07. I have been buying as I go, as I hold out for movement in the other direction. I have BIG plans and it would be nice to have a Boost of cash. So I sit and hope this stock will climb. I hear people all the time talk down on this company. Some of what is said might have some truth to it but to get to my point, They do have great ability to climb in a big way. I've been asked what make's me such a believer and I say, "any company who gets a 70 million dollar gain and does not disappear but use's it to better the company by paying down debt! That is huge in my eye's!" That tells me They believe in what they're doing and 70 million is just the beginning of wealth. Just hang in there and I think we should be able to drive past those haters and simple say, " You were WRONG", "have a nice day".
I bought another Million yesterday ,trying to get more in before June 30, Can't see why! They've put out pr's late in the day before, Keep our fingers crossed! It could still happen. Shoot, I've been going at this sence Feb 2007, I've seen them promise something one day and it be day's later, but they still came through.
Just in case you have a Scottrade account, I just got off the phone with my broker. He said when the news first went out it was considered a stock split! Which we new it wasn't. Now they see it as a spinoff, which we know. So anyhow, they said they are working on it and should see the fix hopefully by tomorrow. We shall see! I JUST WANT MY SHARES BACK!!!!
I understand that I have to hold them for 6 to 12 mo. Rule 144 and I checked my Gains keeper. It shows I still have them but that reflects yesterday #'s. I did just see the symbol change to EVFL! About time! Man those shares better come back! Thanks for the info! Got to head out! By the way..I've been trying to reach Randy Hepler all day, No luck! HMMM!!!
This morining when I logged on to my scottrade account , all my shares that had doubled 3 days ago are now gone! whats up with that. I called my broker and he said they put out news late last night that said it was a restricted spinoff, with all the noise going on I did not fully hear all of what he was saying. He said that was the reason they are now gone. He is under the impression they will not be returned. Is this True? Have I lost all those new found shares? Somebody tell me they will be back when things calm down!!!