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LOLLOLLOLY, hey if yr serious..call Tuscon & ask.iol...jenn
Anybody can buy at least 1(ONE) sh of CEDX/Cexi and not have to quibble about being admitted to the mtg... and thus be eligible to speak and to vote(fwiw) ! Just do it before the current deadline(could be changed again). Infact more than one person could jointly share ownership of a share ! Spread the wealth !
The cost of a share from a discount broker compared to cost of getting there from whereever ... is minor.
The discourse on this subject is absurd.
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paige; Thanks for yr links to the selected filings. They do confirm that JG borrowed at 33%/an when he could find no other source.
It appears that Mr.B was the source. In addition I believe Mr.B bought ppshares big time,bigger than I did then and is in a big hole with them along with the rest of us.
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crow: Please id your source for your stated 33% interest loan by JB . Must be in some filing but I can't find it.
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crow&Cisco; Well, it has been my impression that since early'07 there has been no love lost between MP&JB... esp after JB's very large pp position taken in JG's financing plan was later killed by MP. Very expensive pps.That is a fact... not a rumor or gossip.
Dunno 'bout nothin else. Maybe JB et al will promote more scam.So far.. have not seen enough of anything to speculate.. beyond the apparent remarkable/by comparison/ credentials of the new BOD and the fact that JB has at least run successfull businesses ....whereas.. so far as I know...MP had not... unless by some stretch of a cheerleader imagination.. his mgt of CDEX is considered successfull !
My choices are to hang in, buy more or sell out. I'm hanginin.
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crow: Agreed. CDEX may not make it. However I do not see the current leadership/bod as dishonest, scamming nor misleading as you do. I'll withold negative jusdement for a while. At least until we get a foul wiff.
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penn: Aside from yr irrelevant rant into national politics... I agree with your take on CDEX and its critics here. The new mgt and BOD and return of tech talent are encouraging . There is a better chance of CDEX becoming viable than there was a month ago.. perhaps more than anytime in the past... considering our speculation on MP's agenda !!!!(avoid gvt contracts, produce & place only enough devices to justify PR & sell pp stock etc).
I do think that new mgt will release substantive news when it occurs, not when its occurance is,in fact, purely speculative...like Mckesson etc etc.
We've had enough of that !
I can wait several months for some good news... not holding my breath either. I am with you... give 'em a break !
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penn': I suspect the dear departed are not unhappy with the "new"CDEX" considering all the stock they hold since the arbitration winners, gem etc are NOT forcing bankrupcy,, the co has another chance to do more than just exist on a shoestring..MP's business plan. Bk at best could produce a pittance after legal fees, priority battles etc etc etc.
Thinking back to the JGriff... wonder if MP's departure was because he expected JG to generate much more @ terms MP desired in a short time than he did; so MP's hasty return was required to not loose CDEX to whatever v.cap arrangement JG had negotiated. Interestingly.. the BOD then were still MP's people and had approved the plan. Curiouser and Curioser(Sp.. awfull)
JMHO
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demmo: Thanks for your resolving info. Not inconsistent with my notion on MP's agenda... on the otherhand... may speak volumes about the real value of the tech ! For better or worse.. am keeping an open mind on this.
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d4d: Thanks for yr response.I understand your critic' and you may be correct on most points. I do know about the one abortive deal with Navy. Might have spooked MP too much. Why did it not got to the next phase ?Never explained.
Indeed, The tech may not prove usefull for any marketable application... but I do not know that a consistant effort was made to perfect any application... for reasons I have stated before... in fact I think our best tech people were quite angry when MP compelled them to stop when they felt very encouraged . Like.. we have enough to promote my agenda, don't waste MY money with efforts at reality.
On the other hand..as you say, an entirely new approach may be required. The new mgt may need to explore another tech approach... something MP would not do given his agenda.
But note, the new financing is based on R&D of a C detection device. No particular tech required in the agreement.
True, The many years of LOCH, its predecessors and successors is indeed nothing if not an hs of avarice/scams/bovine genetic fluid /solar pumps etc etcetc. ... much of stock sales accomplished via cynical promotion exploiting devoted "Christian" goodwill . Disgusting.
Currently... CDEX may become what it has never been.. I mean at least honorable...if not successfull.
Of course existing shareholders endorse the current arrangment. I could not agree with you more ! It is the only hope. DUH.
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d4d: If new CDEX mgt does visit Homeland security, it will be quite different than in the past. MP said he wanted to avoid getting involved with the gvt ! Said he was concerned with gvt control. So CDEX had little such involvement. I think he wanted to avoid gvt scrutiny of CDEX as a co. and the efficiency of its products.
Thats The way he was running his ma/pa store.Bleeding what he could and promoting investment by token device application and delivering little. Essentialy a variation on a soft p&D. I got very caught up in it, blinded by the promise of the tech, my personal military hs and my greed.
Clearly explosive detection should have been
(and I had expected it to be, having been a combat eng. in Korean War dealing with mines and booby traps )
our market... but was carefully avoided... like a mine field to MP's agenda.
Let us face it... the new mgt is not going to try restoring CDEX to some mythical former state of health. Heaven forbid !It was always sick !!!
Now CDEX is at the end of a new beginning, a rebirth !
whereas not long ago CDEX was at the beginning of its end.
It is still very risky.. but if the new mgt can't enable this newborn(reborn ?) to thrive despite the obvious problems of doing and undoing, it won't be for the reasons of the MP mgt.failure.
All just my personal opinion. Am sure many others share it. I respect the opinions of those who don't.
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None of the events reported today would exist if Gem ,MP and the arbitration winners had not agreed to them. Perhaps with contingent requirements and reserving their prerrogatives to forclose. Bear in mind, that they probably view the new mgt etc. as the only chance of getting something back on their investments. Certainly CDEX will need to sell more stock to raise capital. But I do think the new mgt/and BOD will be more homorable about their conduct and business activities. Brumfield has had a lot at stake, this is his best chance to have it work.
The new BOD has members who need to keep their + reputations. Each is big enough in his own field to be concerned with that.If CDEX goes under, I don't think it will occur as a result of the new insiders raising cash via promotion in order to bleed the co. Could be that the tech simply cannot become reliably task oriented.
Thats my POV FWIF IOL????????????????????????????????Jenn
Thrilling discussion on milk. Wots next... eggs ?
Has anyone received a definative proxy for the tentatively scheduled mtg ?
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Just the beginning of MP's legacy.
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On the whole, yr comments are valid.. but no one can blame the stockholders for the fiasco tele-conference. Nor for those who sold because it suggested a scamming mgt. not in control of its elements.
On the basis of the promising tech, I too am hanginin,but my position is much smaller than it would have been had the conf. call been competently done.
Jenn
Humbly disagree, first tip was that bungled conf call. Threw great doubt on any + info that followed.
JMHO Jenn
OOPS !!! Its gjsolar.com/not jg. Sorry Jenn
Synergy is an Isreali firm. Its website is in hebrew. It appears that their US subsidiary or affiliate can be found @
www.jgsolar.com... also not publicaly traded.
Jenn
I checked out the site for the SEA mtg in CA in early April. CEDX was NOT among the selected presenters.
Stealth continues. IOL???????????????????????Jenn
Indeed, there is no proof of a scam... however, there is no proof of a buyout @ .01 or any price.
Given the fiasco of the "conference call" the weight seems to favor scam.
Jenn
paige, his creds do appear to bring much to the table. Esp in comparison to MP. Perhaps he kept his light low while on the BOD and can now blossom as CEO !
Here's hoping. IOL????????????????????????Jenn
paige:DS's proprietary speaking subjects are indeed impressive. I guess his wisdom and eloquence had little influence on MP et al.
Well, now he is in the driver's seat... the vehicle has a little fuel. We'll see if he can get it refilled before it dies out again.
We still have had little current clearly detailed info on the business of CDEX... though lots on Mgt changes. Nothing on new hires or rehires.
Suspect the next news could well be mgt. calling a SH mtg.
Hope springs eternal and my glimmer remains a faint glow.
Looking fwd to seeing something IOL?????????Jenn
sea urchin: ppu is fine. yes.. could be trial. Hopefully CDEX will release interim revenue from time to time.
Anonimity of customers is not necessarily a negative.
Many established firms do not disclose customers' identity. When they do.. it is often by special arrangement/pricing etc.
The Statement of # of placements is finite and accountable. Just wish CDEX had indicated time frame too.
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Thanks..right on I don't recall.. was Croatia L/H or
CDEX as independent ? IOL????????????????Jenn
BTW: The sponsoring congressman was, I think, from Western Pa.. Pgh area. I suspect he was connected with an unsavory character from there who played abit into LH/CDEX.... Jackovic.. I think that was his name.. if my riddled memory serves.
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Sorry if I misidentified Blair ! My bad. But Not a lie. Had tried before DC ,x2 in Tucson to meet with him &/or Poteet back then... but that is another story. Suffice to say that Blair agreed on phone to meet but didn't.
Indeed .. I have the wrong end of the stick ! Never denied same. Both in notes and stock from LH and CDEX via the market. The effluvia has been obvious for more than a year. Others got wind sooner.
Dunno why it seems to bug you/an or others here that I reposted article about the old settlement for newbees as stated.
Ah well.. still a sticky mess. Probably never clean.
Whatever.
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the stock trading brhavior is contradictory to the buyout being discussed. Makes NO sense from a technical standpoint.That proves nothing..but can be explained by great skepticism.In the absense of lab data and filings with sales contracts noted... such skepticism is reasonable.
Absence of these data could be deliberate to keep the pps low and allow for buying.. ?????
I'm hanginin anyway. Jenn
demmo: if yr referring to my post elsewhere...the activity to which you refer was inferred in my post.I guess we must be very explicit. Jenn
Xphon: Of course we all know that Smiths is BIG co based in GB with facilities in Tx & elsewhere. Started off making counters speedometers.. sort of like Veeder Root here. But.. you know allof this.
Their trace device does require a swipe and sample insertion in the device. It does take much more than 10 sec. !
Perhaps the CDEX device IS a step up for police, trooper use. Still clinging to straws..jhsmt-Jenn
PS: I dunno but ah been tole,..that Ahura thang is really a modfied Phaser. Caint be beat !
Star-Trek Jenn
But seriously.. we should have more data revealed about CDEX devices.. incl comparisons to Ahura and gummint standards.
demmo,paige et al: Indeed, took an alcohol bath(INTERNAL AS WELL AS EXTERNAL) .. also changed clothes(incl underware)after my last hit before the (alleged) demonstration.
Of course it was all a set up ! WADR
LOL Jenn
diddy: I have been concerned about competition.. read with interest the NIST link you posted. Thanks .
I note that there is no mention of duration of response and there is mention of the use of a "swipe". If response takes longer than 10 sec and also requires the use of a swipe.. then CDEX device would be a real improvement.
.. ..which given our Hs of getting to mkt in a timely fashion continues.
Have been through the "swipe" when "randomly"selected at some airports in US and abroad. It was a2d process NOT routinely used.. prob because it takes so long. Quite time consuming rel to alleged CDEX "gun" process.
Jenn
Jenn to demmo47 et al: have been watching with interest the 144-consultants' discussion here.
I had noted the outing clause(Santa Clause?) in the "consultants" contract described in the filing.
Yr dialogue here exposes the legal but still.. to me shady.. and stockholder hostile doings ! I'll review my PP agreement again.. but after receiving it, had inquired of MP if it was possible to trade any of the shares subscribed or to excercise and to trade any of the wts before the stated 144 limitation. Guess what ?
He said no. Humph ! This does not enhance confidence either.
jhsmt-jenn
crow.. NOT storage point being:
......."Issue prob centered more on which or the number of signatures or a quality controlfactor that required delayed delivery. Not a storage issue."
From my post to yours-? Jenn
Space ? Heck, vmed units are not very big. Neither was the number of units sold . Could have rented space in my pantry if needed. I do not think the actual issue had anything to do with storage. Suspect Baxa wants such items sent from mgf to buyer without Baxa taking physical possession and then passing on.
Issue prob centered more on which or the number of signatures or a quality controlfactor that required delayed delivery. Not a storage issue. JMHO Jenn
Wow ! Just imagine how much product
(ie:loch... stock by the barrel) all that BS sold ! The real stuff.. all else being ephermal... lacking actual application. Somewhat more sophisticated than selling the Brooklyn Bridge. Jenn
Crow: Of course I have seen the light.. or darkness of LOCH.. as it were...long ago.. but ltd to the BOYZ as promoters of stock,not product. I recall debating that very issue with both Abrams and Liviu and being villified by them.. before we ever heard of CDEX.
Revolutionary or not, I DID think and still do that the tech applications can be successful in the mkt place as improvments over some existing detection systems.
If any niches will be occupied profitably by CDEX applications remains to be seen...
chance of success being whittled away by time and missed opprotunities/lack of capital etc.
The basic physics of Our tech is public scientific knowlege... sort of like the physics of gravity and the solar system.
Its a matter of application/design/software/convenience. Another co. may well leap well beyond cdex dev.. using the same basics before mgt gets CDEX into the mkt in any significaNT way.
jmho, Jenn
?Hypocrisy ? not necessairily. The gain may not have been at the expense of the innocents based on deceit/ false info. ala the BOYZ.
Had I bought LOCH low and sold hi and got out.. I would not have known that my gain was based on deceit/false info. Until I was long gone. As it is.. I was not one of the lucky ones.
Thorough DD may reveal either extraordinary virtue in a business or extraordinary hype/BS... or just a lot of ambiguity or nothing indicative.
Jenn
Xen: Thanks.. gotta check that out. Jenn
4diddy: cannot dispute most of yr comments. All make sense....I do wonder though, about "prep time" for vmed...didn't seem to take more than inserting intact sample ? Is there another compeating device which does the same job without taking a sample ?
jhsmt-jenn