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<<<<why we havent see increase in pps even if they have report the informations that said?
I want opinions.
Please tell serious comments. >>>>
I explained earlier that in the world of trading, you buy when there is an expectation of news, and sell when the news comes out. You have to sell to the people who are reacting to the news. Thats the way it works in the real world of trading. IMO
they've had the opportunity to post the russian version but the didnt. what does that tell you?
they will never post that document. i dear aurus to post it.
sun, do you agree that aurus forged the signatures? but its okay because Tsnigri's lawyers are not involved?
the bad news was when they were caught faking documents
the 'good news' was their effort to make an excuse for forging the documaents.
It seems its okay to forge stamps and signatures as long as the report was actually done for you through your 'representative'.
ok, we'll see.
sagan, you dont have to bother about the 'bashers'. Whether they accept the documents as geniune or not does not matter. What matters is the pps. If the pps refuses to rise from here, it means the market does not believe aurus, but if the pps continues to rise, then you have renewed belief in aurus.
My guess is that the 'good' news is out now, so a sell off should follow.
As you know in the trading world - 'buy the rumour sell the news'
The next run will be a down run. why? all the 'good' news is out.
Unless the buyout PRs begin to come out again to pump the pps, down aurc pps goes. weeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I guess they pulled those dates on their website out of a hat. May 5 2007 was a Saturday. I guess Saturdays are normal working days in russia.
Keith, I give up. You are right the documents were not forged.
And nowhere in eik's post did TSnigri state that the contract and summary documents were forgeries.
And the English version is the exact translation of the Russian version despite the fact that TSnigri said that they did not visit the site while the English version states that TSnigri visited the site twice.
keithpkins, the English version of the supposed 43-101 report was not the only document that was posted on aurus website. Read eiks post or my last post again.
aurus is a tradeable stock. when I say aurus is a scam, I dont mean that the company does not exist, or that the company has no assets. They have licences to process/mine a tailing dump. The only problem is that if this cannot be done at profitable project than its completely worthless. Thats why the shares are worthless right now.
Aurus is a scam because they give you the impression that this can be done and is being profitably.
Aurus is a scam because they lied to shareholders about buyouts. (Notice that they are saying nothing about the buyout now)
Aurus is a scam because they lied to shareholders about gold production. (they say they are producing 6/7 million dollars wotth of gold per month, yet they have to sell shares to pay salaries)
Aurus is a scam because they put forged documents on its website. (sunw and eik had communication from TsNIGRI points to dcouments on aurus website were forged. Mineweb articles says the same.
There are many more reasons why aurus is a scam, but I hope you get the picture already.
Dear tejas91, daytraders and flippers are good for stocks. They provide liquidity and momentum that long term holders can take advantage of.
So you don't believe eik's conversation with TsNIGRI ?
Documents posted on aurus webstes were forged.
From eiks post: <<< Documents posted on Aurus website (she specifically mentioned “expert conclusion” – summary and contract) are fabricated. Signatures are forged, and stamps are scanned. Migachev's signature doesn't even look like his. We are not responsible for the deeds of any con artists (this is my translation of Russian “afferist”). >>>
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=26830466
Whats wrong in being a daytrader or flipper?
Whats wrong in having fun while warning people off a scam at the same time? Everything I write is fact based. Aurus proved they are a scam by publishing forged documents. We all agree they forged the documents dont we?
You're getting too uptight, relax and enjoy the ride.
see this post for your answer buddy.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=27034700
You're right, once the documents have been reforged, some will fall for it and buy, but the pps rise will only be temporary, in fact it will be momentary and duly drop because aurus is a scam.
Read this post:
Posted by: divtrader9
In reply to: KELLYCO who wrote msg# 90368 Date:1/31/2008 7:13:07 AM
Post #of 93918
kellyco, let me help doubleulgy out with a summary of the scam as I see it.
Mr D buys licences to mine gold in mines or tailing dumps. Then he buys a shell like AURC and transfers the licence/s into the shell. (Remember that AURC used to sell gold oh sorry golf equipment before).
Mr D then sells shares of AURC to the public, promising to mine the gold and return profit to shareholders in form of dividends (you will think it will be cash once you hear profits, but what you will get is worthless shares that will half in price 3 months after it gets issued).
Mr D will now start pumping the share price and dump into any rise. Enter the fake buyout. In the 4 week period between the middle of April and mid May 2007 over 220 million shares changed hands - where do you think these shares came from. Mr D released an extraordinary number of PRs (11 in 5 weeks) to pump and dump into.
Mr D continues the fake buyout story by promising to set up shareholders' meeting. Mr D postpones the meeting three times over a 6 month period.
Mr D releases PR about gold production, equipment purchase to boost further production and shareholders forget abou SH meeting and buyout. Meanwhile, despite producing 6 or 7 million dollars worth of gold per month, Mr D has to file REGDEX to sell shares in order to pay a meagre $100000 salary.
December 5, Mr D expects definite offer in Jan '08 from Canadian company, but come Jan 30 Mr is still talking to not only Canadian companies, but European ones too.
Unfortunately for Mr D, JH pooped in the party by exposing his scam and the only rebuttal we get is that he is upset. So what is he going to do about the accussation other than being upset?
I dont have to publish a website. Ihub is giving me the opportunity to reach newbies here.
We all make mistakes. But you have become more enlightened.
0.025 is becoming resistance. It could be broken when the PR is released on Tuesday, so if I bought @ 0.018, I wont sell until after Tuesday unless price drops below 0.016 before Tuesday. I genuinely wish you well in your trading.
You dont seem to complain about LONG & STRONG being posted over and over again.
Whether I'm in the minority doesnt matter. My opinion on aurus has always been correct so far.
What do I have to gain : If just one newbie can be cautioned not to fall for the scam, I would be very happy.
There are websites all over the net that warns people about internet scams like the Nigerian 419 scams, why do you think people dedicate their time to such things.
Slove, problem is there is no buyer. Thats part of the scam. The forged documents are another part of the scam. The promised proxy which is being awaited for 6 months is another part of the scam. The shareholders meeting, the production figures, The .... too many parts to this scam.
IMO
yes to what buddy?
Call me a basher if you like, but if you don't flip pinks, what do you do with them? Wait until they start making profit so you can earn cash dividend (never gonna happen), or you wait until they are bought out? - that certainly aint gonna happen too.
What you do is flip them like pancake, over and over again. If not, you end up holding a big bag like many here are.
nice move. new parabolic buy signal, but the last buy signal lost money. so, for a flip I can't tell which pps it stops rising, but you should stop out if pps dips below 0.0159. As long as you flip it, its alright. Problem starts when people fall in love with pinks and think they are married to the stock. GLTU.
The reason why aurus pps does not respond to gold price is this: Secretly, the buyout has taken place, so all the gold reserves in the dump now belongs to another company. Unfortunately the main owners of aurus forgot to share the proceeds of the sale with the ihub shareholders.
it could be that somethings wrong with the machine code generated by his operating system when it reads the keyboard. Notice that the sequence of text(� ) occurs when he's trying to type apostrophy(').
If you replace the � with apostrophy ('), you'll get the message.
<<< Think a lot of the'info' you got already, is the reason you and other investors are down so much. Looking for one now is a mistake. >>>>
this is what amazes me. The longs are asking for more PRs and statements from Aurus. Its as if they want to be lied to so more. I can understand having your investment underwater and grasping at straws, but when you're asking for more water to drown you further, I just get perplexed.
you will not get a few grams of gold and silver, you will get micrograms of gold and silver.
An expectation of 0.55c is just as unrealistic. Sorry for being so blunt, but i call it as I see it.
<<< Divident would definitely increase investor confidence>>>
Where do you expect them to get the money to payout any dividend, when they have to sell shares to pay their own salaries(according to REGDEX). Apart from the fact they have no cash in hand, they dont give a toss about retail shareholders. When is this going to sink in?
<<I hope I'm wrong though and they announce the new buyout price, maybe $2.25???
>>
your expectations are absolutely unrealistic. Aurus is trading just above one cent and you expect them to announce a buyout offer over two dollars? haha
DOS,
<<< Will we ever see any real money from this, I don't know. >>>
I believe all you will ever see from this is worthless ABVG shares and more worthless AURC shares(as dividends or if you buy more). Nobody's ever seen real money in pinkyland from a buyout. Correct me if I'm wrong.
DOS,
<<<<"This is outright forgery."
There is no way you can know this to be true. There are way too many "what if's" here. The most likely scenario is that Aurus did what they saw as a legit way of getting this into our hands. We seem to have confirmation on several levels that the numbers are right, and the piles are right. Way too much is being made of this, what if someone sells on your "This is outright forgery." then it turns out it is nothing more than people speaking English and people speaking Russian not understanding each other, will you pay them back for money they lose? You for sure do not know if this is case of cut and paste, if you knew that, you would know much more. Did you talk to anyone about any of this? Or has your information been the same as J.H. at Mineweb, this blog? No one knows what is going on here, that is the problem. Unless you have interviewed TsNIGRI in person, with a translator, on tape, you are guessing at worst and relying on strangers at best. Bashers can replay the "forgery" statement and will, but that does not make it fact, no one knows what was meant, there is why too much to be lost in translation. Have someone read you a Russian translation of the King James version of the Bible, the most published book in history, and you will not even be able to tell what book of the Bible they reading from unless they tell you.
DOS >>>>>
In light of the revelation by eik, I was right that this is outright forgery. Aurus scanned the stamp and forged the signatures. haha
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"Reg SHO listed 243 Consecutive Market Days"
This could run up to 500 Consecutive market days or beyond. There's no limit. If you buy shares based on this, you could end up with the whole float of worthless shares.
Ive been saying that the signatures were forged ever since the report was published, but the pumpers will not hear it.
0.016 supoort broken. Spells doom for aurc. Next stop 0.009
nice one DOS, lets agree to disagree on this one okay. Time will tell what aurc has been up to. Meanwhile the ultimate indicator (price) is saying that this is being flushed down the toilet.
Have a nice day.
i compared the documents DOS, did you?
Go and look at Romanchuk's signatures as you have them on the Russian summary report and the one on the English version of the full report. That is not cut and paste.
Sunwz said that Romanchuk said that he did not sign the English version nor the Russian summary of the report, yet the sigbatures were different(not exact copies). I believe sunwz. He is a supporter of aurus. So where did the sigantures come from?
" you have a doc in any language as long as a certified translater translates it you can affix the signature. i don't see a problem with it."
Is it okay to forge signatures on the translated copy? This is not a case of cut and paste. This is outright forgery.
sunwz, the English version has a signature. Where did that come from?
>>The FACT of the matter IS that the REPORT IS AUTHENTIC.
Do you realise that the English version has a signature on it?
Are you saying that its alright for Aurus to create an English version and then forge the signature just to satisfy shareholders who were demanding the report?
I mentioned here as soon as the report was published that the signature was forged and I was shouted down, now we have at least two investors who have emails from TsGNRI that the signature was forged, yet you maintain as that as a matter of fact the report is authentic. Quiet amazing. No wonder the scams flourish.