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TR,
I am still picking up a few shares!
RJ
TR,
I think some little brown envelopes are being passed around or a little grudge?
Stuart had someone from MnVap testing with him at the FASC testing facility and he was very happy with the product.
RJ
TR,
No, not dust issues, emmission issues this time. It seems this guy from the Minn EPA is grabbing at anything. Stuart says that they are sending paperwork that shows EPA inspections showing no emmissions just clean steam. If that does not work Brian and Stuart will be going to Minneasota to straighten thing out.
Stuart is in communication with kieth and will be talking yet again today.
Lots of quoting going on, I think things are going to be slow steady growth from here.
RJ
TR,
I just talked to Stuart. MnVap is being given problems by someone from the MnVap. The KDS "does not" let off emmisions and has been proven so. It lets off clean steam. The EPA person at
sight said he had a sore throut for two weeks after watching the machine be run. Stuart and Brian may head over there to do battle with the EPA. My take is he has alfalfa allergies?
My question is how much Brown paper is trading hands? Someone does not want this project to be a success. FASC is not going to put up with it anymore.
Stuart is not happy about the KDS being Marketed on Ebay.
Lots of quotes...waiting for takers!
RJ
Hi TR,
I just placed a limit order for .035 and it filled at .0298 I am
feeling that a person could buy all they want at .03 and I said if it droped below .03 I was buying again. I do not need anymore shares, but I beleive in this company long and it is hard to pass up a PPS of .03
RJ
TR,
That is one facility, but for the other MnVap future facilities it will take years. I think it is going to take more than just a few KDS sales to spike the PPS above .20 +
...if there were a couple PR's reporting multiple sales that would bring more attention.
my opinion, I do like yours better!
RJ
Hi TR,
I want to caution, even though I think we have great things coming
with MnVap, things move slow. Possibly two project PR's will give better direction to investors.
My take is one year +- .20 to .47 ?? maybe
Just a guess. No, I would not complain about a dollar. Just think its a little early.
I am trying to work out a time in October to watch the KDS at the Testing facility do its thing. Once I know a date from Brian I will get tickets for the wife and I.
RJ
TR,
According to MnVap, they have similiar designs in their eyes.
I look forward to being here if and when it happens.
Yes, MnVap using FASC's KDS Machines.. !
RJ
Hi Waite,
Our best wishes are with you and your health. We even hope you do well with your FASC investment!!
RJ
Waite,
....just pick up a few hundred thousand shares a day and the PPS will be sure to go up! The problem is we need more new interests.
As TR has said, the new interest will come when FASC has some multiple sales, or at least increase its sales. In the mean time
we get to hang around here and keep each others confidence up!!!
OT for "on topic!" I was driving north on 131 yesterday. I was short on time so I did not stop in. I did have your books with me. I will try again. We just cannot have to many FASC summits.
I have a call in to Stuart, when he returns my call I will see if there is anything new that can be learned.
You have a great and wonderfull FASC day!
RJ
Waite,
You are right I do have my onery side!
Folks, I went to visit Waite to have a FASC summit...I could not reach him by phone so I just went to his apartment. I found him alone with this lovely lady.........she was picking up in his apartment.....he claimed she was a care taker/giver or something like that?......???? Well I sat down and we discussed FASC, this board and a number of other things. Lots of fun!
Summary of FASC Summit is "Trade some" "Hold Long for large return"......I think?
RJ
PS. Maybe I am as Bold as Sarge, but not near as suave with the words and unfortunately not as good looking as Waite!
TR,
I was trying to make the point that I feel the present PPS allows anyone at this time to not be a late comer.
....and of course I was trying to add a little "Sam" style entertainment factor to the message.
I still have my first sell for a few shares set at .47 which I expect to fill next year.
The balance I will hold long.
RJ
Sam, TR,
At present PPS for FASC I feel I could safely say the late commers have not yet arrived.
Welcome everyone, just place your money at the door!
The show is only about to begin!
Just enjoy the adverts while you wait........ and wait and...
RJ
Tech,
I do like IHUB, but if they make it impossible for us to talk about FASC and what goes with it, it can be taken to other boards like IV Investors Village which is a good posting board or to a yahoo free for all which probably will not be to the liking of many here.
I post with the IV for my Blue Chip stocks and others. FASC is set up, but not used.
The reason I do not pay for the premium membership anymore is all the pop ups and advertising. I figure if I am to pay a premium, I need not endure the popups etc.
kinda double dipping and OK, just I have a choice.
RJ
Hey Tech,
FASC is not doing bad for being a "scam" is it?
Great news. Brian and Cals stubborness is finally comming to fruitation. Congrats!
Well we do have Waites advice long term... I agree with him,
but not so long.
RJ
TR,
If I remember correctly the most nutritous part of the Alfalfa still remains part of food processing. The balance is used for energy.
...By the way, I visited with Waite by phone this morning. He was tired but was feeling better. Waite has a tremendous attitude. We even get along when we do not agree!!!!
Imagine that. Waite is definitly an insperation.
I hope that Waite and I can have a FASC pie/summit this week!
......and yes on topic we will discuss FASC" and "you all"
RJ
TR,
A few minutes ago I thought I was going to join Waite in the ER.
I had a fit of either quick or fat finger syndrome.
Getting on the IHUB site I meant to punch in FASC and must of punched in MSFT and saw a price of 25.81. After recognizing that this was way to optomistic to be real I quickly corrected the problem and accidently punched in MCFT at .0001 .. It took just a moment to figure that today maybe I need to look at the keys as I punch them in. I am Ok now.. I took an asperin.
RJ
Waite,
I do wish you well. You remind me of ....well I will finish that thought off with a phone call.
I agree with your long term assessment of FASC, how-ever I am believing we will not have to be that long with all our shares. I do think selling within a year is a waste unless your just trading.
I do wish you well, I will talk with you today.
RJ
PS. I hope all do consider as Waite does what great things we can do.
Sarge,
I am not against Ebay, I just like the Bricks and Mortar best.
Mixed feelings if being on Ebay from the view/question, does it tarnish the FASC KDS in the eyes of the industry?
note: Sarge I am not as good with thoughts and words as you are!
RJ
Charlie,
Buy a FASC KDS from Ebay and make us all happy!
...I agree. I think the traditional Brick and Mortar Equipment
sales professionals are our best bet.
Rj
Sarge,
You make a good point and I did not think of it. I have a cousin
in Floor Machine MFG and owns 5 distribution centers. His distribution centers do market on Ebay.
I just thought maybe it was a combination of dumping and cheapening the KDS.
I do not mind being wrong,
RJ
TR,
I wish I sold enough Gym Floors to have enough waste to make a KDS purchase worth while!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh..a fella can wish,
By the way TR, Ebay has two of them One for you and one for Charlie!
RJ
TR,
I have a slightly different take. I would rather make 25% in many sales than 50% in just a few. The better price would also improve costs for the customer and marketing for us. Prices can be raised a bit down the road.
Maybe thats not an option.
Interesting that MnVap first made its commitment for 2 KDS machines in 2006 and only have recieved one at this point.
With all their waiting they still have dreams.
I'll wait with them.
RJ
PS. ...another strange thought... I do a lot more than twice the business than FASC does and I pay myself half what Brian and Cal get paid! I'd give myself a raise but it would make the books look like FASC's!
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TR, Shall we bid against each other?
RJ
TR,
I knew I would get a response out of you. Yes there are exceptions, how-ever the accounting personality is much more conservative and by the rule than the average risk taker .... and rightfully so out of necessity!!! It provides balance to us.
RJ
FASC,
The Truth is that I do not know. My guess that Cal is a determined detail person and wants to run this company to success himself. Sometimes being an accounting type interferes with the entrepenuer type thinking. Risk taking can be tough.
We look at things here as a Trade or Investment. Cal probably is looking at survival with a mix of growth.
Brian seems to be a hands on type of person more in love with a successful quality product than money.
With the above I would add they both would like to see their product be something important and accepted in the Manufacturing world.
My thinking,
RJ
Charlie,
I talked to one of the employees. I am sure they were speaking out of turn.
Cal wants to take this one all they way.
Lets hope that the information is good.
Either way, I do not understand the PPS droping vs above average volume.
As far as those screaming scam, I think that is silly. I understand if someone wants to make the case for FASC being a bad investment. But to call it a scam is way out of line. FASC makes a product and sells it. Scams usually do not do that.
RJ
PS. On a more important note.... Good weather all week-end and
the fishing was Gooooood!
Sarge,
My guess is that someone wants to accumulate shares or aquire the company. FASC has been approached by two companies and FASC sent them to the shareholders in the public market place.
(not per Cal or Brian)
Have a great week-end. It starts right now!!!!
See ya Monday!
RJ
PS. Bass, Perch, Walleye?
Waite,
I agree with you. Most of us have our retirement investments in more solid places? I would hope Bonds, Mutuals, Land etc.?
How-ever I have a gambling portion of my portfolio and FASC is a good Gamble anyway I look at it. I have learned from my bad ones and am glad I survived them!!!!
Even though I am not near as smart as some of my Highly educated friends (speaking of personal friends with high incomes) many of them are what I would consider "BROKE" Could not live two months with out a paycheck!
I will live with my portfolio and no I have never sold a FASC share yet. $ 1.00 may be a little to the moon for me but .47 is a good goal for the next year or two.
RJ
Sun,
Please do share, but if you think making 3x your investment is a bad deal for traders.... well then.
If FASC is to tough a trade for you then just trade somewhere else.
At least FASC makes something, tough to say that about most penny stocks.
I for one stand with the customers.
RJ
Sun,
I am more interested in where we are right now, what our customers are saying and the results of research that is on going.
The past sucks to say the least. Fortunately I have talked to optomistic and very patient customers.
If this investment is to difficult for you to trade or stomach long than I agree that you should invest elseware. For those that are doing their own DD and want to share with each other then they should have that opportunity also.
Thank goodness there is a little of American still left. Lets hope we do not loose it all.
RJ
TR,
If the volume was buying, then the PPS should be going up, correct? The PPS is not going up. I also am a long hold on FASC. I am just currious why would there be so much selling going on.
RJ
TR,
I agree with you, how-ever it is interesting that with the volume lately above average that the PPS is slowly sliding and the volume is reported as mostly sells. This is a strange occurance to me.
The company cannot dilute so someone is dumping or manipulating???
Don't know..Just throwing it out there.
RJ
TR,
According to my conversation with Cal about Facebook, was that he
was using it to satisfy shareholders about what has happened and what is happening with the company. He said he learned his lesson about putting out PR's early. He is not interested in pumping the stock. Completed and paid for sales will be reported in 10Q's. Some PR's will go out conservatively.
I do not think Cal is worried about pleasing Traders. His interest is in building the Company and eventually repaying longs for their patience.
I do wish all well. Pick your investment plan and live with it.
Trading or Holding is up to the individual and is not worth arguing about. I do enjoy listening to stradegies by those that think in leiu of silly banter. (no, I did not use names!)
....and of course there are many here with more sense than I have!
RJ
Sarge,
.....I am sure glad I cannot read the post you responded to. Some peoples hate is so great they do not know how to be kind.
Good or Bad news with FASC cannot not be delivered with credibility when no confidence has been established with other posters.
I am in belief that we are going to have our time as FASC shareholders. I also believe that someone is accumulating Shares and timing it in such a way that the shares are being purchased while others are dumping.
The trades continue to show as sells and it is not possible to dillute this stock???
....just my thinking.
RJ
TR,
I have done the calls and am now just waiting with a smile on my face. That is why the PPS is not of big interest to me right now.
but....next year?
RJ
TR,
Forgive me for picking on ya earlier...just in the mood. Kinda like a kid waiting for class to get out.
RJ
Charlie,
At least its not a Baaa Haaa!,
Indicators say todays slow trading day is Buys.
That is good to me.
I wish everyone a very happy July 4th week-end. Mine starts
tonight camping at the lake and continues to Monday!
Most good economic years would not allow me this much fun in the summer! If you're not making much money...you may as well FISH!!!
later,
RJ
TR,
Just for fun I will fill in for Jag and Sun today.
Here it goes....
"I don't know about today, but the start of this new fiscal year tomorrow has me excited with the prospects of multiple sales from MnVap, Latvia, and Malaysia, among perhaps others. "
My Jag/Sun question is ...are you Pumping or just sounding Desperate!
...just having fun with you. I am more used to your normally
calm manner.
TR, I am excited also, but I think we are a little early for a huge bounce in sales. I do think this next year will bring us
an increase in sales. Industrials move slow.
But I do like your version.
RJ
Sun,
Are you more intrigued with the posters or the stock FASC?
...and you are correct "we are excited" about what is happening with FASC as of late!
As Jag would tell you, keep the posts about FASC not the posters!
..however....I really don't care myself.
RJ