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Do I see a notation that a certain Alain Champagne holds title to those claims?
Oh, come on Debbie Downer, we can always use one more Canadian REE supplier. LOL
Well, what do you know? REE's back in style.
John Kaiser: Rare Earth Poised for Comeback San Francisco Hard Assets Investment Conference 2011 Online Preview
JT Long
Published 11/9/2011
The companies in a race to produce critical heavy rare earth elements by 2016 are already way ahead of their smaller competitors. In this interview with The Critical Metals Report, Kaiser Research Online editor John Kaiser handicaps the players on the end-user, producer and investor side—believe it or not, China may have the largest stake in developing sources outside its borders.
The Critical Metals Report: John, you were one of the first analysts to start following the rare earth sector. You have watched it go from sleepy to overheated and now partially downgraded. In a recent newsletter, you blamed the recent steep downturn in juniors on "euro zone and Tea Party-inspired fears about a market crash leading to a '30s-style depression that will sink the global economy and send us back to caves where rare earths are of no use." Is that our only option?
John Kaiser: This ironic comment was designed to convey the absurdity of what is happening in the rare earth sector. So no, I don't think that is our future. The slamming of the rare earth stocks based on warnings that global growth is slowing and high prices are generating "demand destruction" is the reverse of the media hype that we had before. It has had a negative effect on the valuations of rare earth juniors, in particular the ones that are still in the process of developing a new supply. The pullback we saw in Molycorp Minerals (MCP:NYSE) was justifiable because Wall Street analysts had been fooled into taking a pretty high percentage of the rare earth free on board (FOB) "quoted" export prices as real and plugged them into their cash-flow models. Now those astronomical export prices are coming down because China is releasing material back into the market. But it doesn't explain the downgrade in equities prices for companies like Quest Rare Minerals Ltd. (QRM:TSX.V; QRM:NYSE.A), Rare Element Resources Ltd. (RES:TSX; REE:NYSE.A) and Tasman Metals Ltd. (TSM:TSX.V; TASXF:OTCPK; T61:Fkft), which are early-stage projects, but still advanced compared to their peers. These company valuations never followed Molycorp and Lynas Corp. (LYC:ASX) up, yet they are being punished on the down side because the leaders in the sector retreated significantly. It is very unfair.
TCMR: So, even though the small companies didn't rise with the bubble, the mainstream media and JPMorgan's negative reporting on Molycorp is hitting their prices?
JK: Yes. The rare earth prices were definitely in a bubble. That is not the same as the rare earth stock prices. The rare earth prices did not really start to move until July 2010 when China drastically cut its export quotas. And even then, it was just the export prices that moved dramatically. Chinese domestic prices stayed flat. Only when China cracked down on polluting operators at the end of 2010, did domestic prices start to go up because the world had gotten used to about 120,000 tons (Kt) of production from China, instead of the officially sanctioned 93,800 tons. The West faces losing 30 Kt of production, which is a problem because last year China reported its domestic rare earth consumption as 87 Kt. A rare earth mine can't be rushed into production overnight so it will take time for capacity outside China to be developed. This reality has caused pressure, even in China, which is fulfilling its own needs first. Furthermore, the crackdown included plugging lucrative smuggling channels, through which rare earths bypassed the quota system.
China's crackdown on polluting operators has implications far beyond the rare earth sector. It shows that China is becoming impatient with its status as the world's cost dumping ground. As China is coming under pressure internally from an emerging middle class demanding environmental and working standards, it is being forced to take action. The rare earth sector could be a leading indicator of a trend shift, which has positive implications for countries such as the United States and Europe, which have not been able to compete in manufacturing goods because they won't tolerate the types of operating standards that China has allowed. As the Chinese cost structure rises, the rationale for moving production to China will diminish. China's ability to dominate 95% of total rare earth supply critical to a lot of sophisticated downstream technologies is one of its bargaining chips keeping end users in the country.
TCMR: How are end-users reacting?
JK: We have seen two reactions. One is companies shifting production capacity to China to get access to these critical materials. The problem is that China does not yet have any serious laws protecting intellectual property, so companies are taking a chance that they can protect their technology from being stolen by operators who will compete by making cheaper versions of their own products. Of course, this is a serious threat to Western countries that want to retain high-end manufacturing.
Other companies are trying to engineer out hard-to-access materials, thus creating the "demand destruction" being discussed. The substitution is usually for an inferior substance, but it is a temporary solution for a supply gap that every company has to manage. Rare earths are already coming back into the market as Chinese hoarders realize this substitution response could ease the shortage and wipe out their profits. The result is a healthy normalization of rare earth prices. Domestic prices, to a large degree, are starting to approach the three-year average for export prices. The export prices still have a ways to come down. I think we will soon see Chinese domestic prices stabilize, and that will be the new reality, rather than the cheap pricing from 2008 or the elevated pricing during the middle of this year. That normalized pricing could make a lot of mining projects more economic than three years ago and technologies more practical than they are right now.
TCMR: Are some end users trying to lock in resources for the future?
JK: One of the big things missing from the junior sector has been any serious action by any party = major mining company or end user = to acquire a stake in a rare earth mining project. There have been nonbinding offtake arrangements that are meaningless because they don't involve any commitments. What the sector really needs is for the end users to step up to the plate and make some serious investments to guarantee 2015-2016 supply. I think in 2012 we will see movement. The juniors need to know how much of an ownership premium end users are willing to pay to control future supply. The end users don't need to make money on these rare earths. If they can produce this stuff at a reasonable price, they make all their money downstream by selling a Prius hybrid with a lanthanum-based nickel-metal-hydride battery. A lot of these decisions involving future product lines cannot be made unless inputs are secured.
We have seen some signs that this is happening. CBMM, a Brazilian company that owns the Araxá niobium deposit with substantial rare earth resources has realized $4B in investments by a consortium of Korean and Japanese entities and a group of Chinese companies. We do not know what this capital will cover, but I suspect a good chunk of it will go toward mobilizing the rare earth resources, which are mainly of the light variety. When this kind of deal happens to any of the junior companies, that will be a big milestone for the sector.
TCMR: You mentioned that it takes a long time to get one of these mines up and going, and you named three companies: Quest, Rare Element Resources and Tasman. Where will they be in 2016?
JK: If Quest continues to move along at its current rate of progress and does not encounter any significant permitting hurdles, it could be in production by 2016. Quest has 40-50% of the so-called heavy rare earths. Rare Element, which has the second-best light rare earth deposit in the United States, has a similar development timeline. Tasman, which has a lower-grade heavy rare earth enriched deposit, is at least a year behind.
Tasman's advantage is a very large deposit in Sweden called Nora Karr. This deposit will have something like 70-80 Mt and could conceivably take care of Europe's needs for 50+ years. Sweden is a stable country with local infrastructure in place. The problem is the Nora Karr involves a mineral that has never been commercially exploited. So a key milestone is the publication of a preliminary economic assessment based on a bench scale-established metallurgical flow sheet that establishes the recoveries and the associated energy and reagent costs.
TCMR: You mentioned that all the rare elements are not the same. You have a chart of the prices of some of the different ones—europium, terbium, dysprosium, which are used in batteries and lasers. Those are commanding very high spot prices. Are these heavy rare earths going to be in demand beyond 2015? Is that still going to be an area where companies can make good money?
JK: Yes. The heavy rare earths today primarily come from ionic clay deposits in China. Once they are stripped away, you cannot drill and find more of them. They are gone. This is a problem because they play an important role in technology growth. China could actually become a net importer of the heavy rare earths down the road. So deposits such as Tasman's Nora Karr and Quest's Strange Lake are of interest to Western and Chinese end users. That means it is in China's best interest to have rare earths available from multiple sources around the world. So this concern that China is setting everybody up for another big gotcha by encouraging Western companies to develop deposits only to open the taps and flood the market with new production may have been the case in the '80s when China was a full communistic nation desperate for hard currency, but it is no longer the case today.
The world does not need dozens and dozens of these deposits, however, which is why I think the race has already pretty much been wrapped up by companies such as Quest, Rare Element Resources, Tasman and another that I follow, Avalon Rare Metals Inc. (TSX:AVL; NYSE.A:AVL; OTCQX:AVARF) in Canada with its Nechalacho deposit.
Large deposits like Strange Lake and Nora Karr will go on-stream at rates that will produce a pretty good amount of heavy rare earths. They will have the ability, should demand increase beyond expectations, to scale up production. These companies will have enough material to keep everyone supplied for 50-100 years.
There could be a little window for the smaller deposits to come in and produce some material, but because these things are chemical plants, it is not like starting a gold mine by digging up a gold vein and processing it. Small scale is not necessarily a solution for quick supply. A number of companies on the promotional circuit with smaller deposits will be inconsequential in solving long-term problems, but still require an extraordinary amount of time and effort to actually bring on-stream.
Domestic = what users pay in China; FOB = what export users outside of China pay; FOB + domestic value = total projected output in 2016 at today's REE prices
TCMR: What about in the light rare earth elements? Is it a similar timeline and outlook?
JK: No. There is a huge abundance of light rare earth deposits in the world, including what I suspect the Chinese, Korean and Japanese investors in CBMM are after at Araxá. So there will be no shortage of light rare earths by 2015-2016. There have been some major discoveries, including Commerce Resources Corp. (CCE:TSX.V; D7H:Fkft; CMRZF:OTCQX), which made the huge Eldor discovery in the far northern part of Quebec. I think that in 2020 and beyond, when the anxiety about supply security diminishes, overall demand will increase as end users become comfortable once more with deploying rare earth dependent technologies. Quebec will open up its north through its Plan Nord development initiative to create access and power infrastructure and that will benefit some of the remote deposits like Eldor. So I see no shortage of future supply for the light rare earths. There are numerous smaller deposits all around the world with grades of 2-3% or higher. Right now, a lot of work is going into the process technology for recovering rare earths and separating it. So even from all the failures that will happen, there will be a windfall of knowledge on how to do it and how not to do it.
This is sort of an interesting thing about the whole mining and exploration sector. People make all these negative statements about the extraordinarily high failure rate in mineral exploration, but all those failures generate valuable information. Sometimes the failures are simply a function of grade and the price of the commodity. We saw that in the last decade where the juniors generated more than $60B worth of takeover bids largely on the basis of taking deposits found in prior decades and abandoned as worthless and rethinking them in light of scaled-up demand. So even when these companies fail, they often generate valuable information, which is a legacy for future generations. All the work going into the rare earth sector right now is a gift to the future, even if it has no payoff for many of the participants in the short term.
TCMR: That is a great thought to leave with our readers. Thank you very much for your time.
John Kaiser, a mining analyst with over 25 years' experience, is editor of Kaiser Research Online. He specializes in high-risk speculative Canadian securities and the resource sector is the primary focus for an investment approach he developed that combines his "bottom-fishing strategy" with his "rational speculation model." Kaiser began work in January 1983 as a research assistant with Continental Carlisle Douglas, a Vancouver brokerage firm that specialized in Vancouver Stock Exchange listed securities. In 1989 he moved to Pacific International Securities Inc., where he was research director until April 1994 when he moved to the United States with his family. He launched the Kaiser Bottom-Fishing Report (now Kaiser Research Online) as an independent publication in October 1994 and developed it into an online commentary and information portal. He has written extensively about the junior resource sector, is frequently quoted by the media, and is a regular speaker at investment conferences. Since 2008 he has developed a focus on security of supply issues and how they relate to critical metals such as rare earths. He will talk on Monday, Nov. 28, during the San Francisco Hard Assets Investment Conference.
Disclosure:
1) JT Long of The Critical Metals Report conducted this interview. She personally and/or her family own shares of the following companies mentioned in this interview: None.
2) The following companies mentioned in the interview are sponsors of The Critical Metals Report: Commerce Resources, Quest Rare Minerals, Tasman Metals, Rare Element Resources.
3) John Kaiser: I personally and/or my family own shares of the following companies mentioned in this interview: Quest Rare Minerals and Tasman Metals. I personally and/or my family am paid by the following companies mentioned in this interview: None.
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We many need a name change to Tucana Diamonds, Inc. if those kimberlite targets contain diamonds. That will need further exploration.
Looks like TUCA is about to purchase those kimberlite targets.
That could explain the delay in releasing a pr and NI that explains the presence of kimberlite pipes. I would want to lock them up (stake claims), before telling the rest of the mining world.
The magnetic and gradiometric airborne survey released by the Quebec Ministry of Natural Resources in September 2011 was to find magnetic anomalies for kimberlite targets and it outlined the main magnetic features of the property. Several kimberlite targets were discovered in the immediate vicinity of the Abigail property, from one to three kilometres to the north/west of the property.
On November 9, 2011, the Company entered into a letter of intent to secure the purchase of these kimberlite targets. As of this press release, the Company has not entered into a definitive purchase agreement for these kimberlite targets, and the Company expects to enter into one in the near future.
Most excellent!
Snowing out there on the ranch?
Thanks for posting. People should read the NI-43-101 first, before jumping out of the plane.
Tucana Lithium Corp. (TUCA) is “One to Watch”
Tucana Lithium Corp. is a mineral exploration company that engages in the exploration of lithium properties in Canada. The Company formerly went by the name Oteegee Innovations, Inc. They changed their name to Tucana Lithium Corp. in May 2011. Founded in 2003, Tucana Lithium has their headquarters in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Tucana has acquired a 100 percent interest in the Abigail property. This property is located in the James Bay region of Quebec, Canada. More specifically, it is located in the Nemaska area. The property consists of 222 map-designated cells totaling 11,844 ha or 118.5 squared km. This Abigail property is attached to the world-class Whabouchi Lithium deposit held by Nemaska Exploration (NMX.V). Nemaska earlier announced an updated resource estimate on the Whabouchi deposit to 25 million tonnes in measured and indicated categories.
Tucana is focusing on the acquisition and development of mining properties throughout North America. With the Abigail property, their key goal is to develop a world-class lithium project that will capitalize on the fast-growing demand for lithium batteries primarily used for electric and hybrid vehicles. Their plans include a $2.5 million exploration and development program focused on completing an economic pre-feasibility study on the Abigail property. This is to advance the project to the feasibility stage.
In September 2011, Tucana Lithium announced that they obtained the airborne magnetic survey for the Abigail Property from the Ministry of Natural Resources in Quebec. The airborne survey encompasses the entire Abigail Property covered by NTS Sheets 320/12 and 320/13 in the Lac Des Montagnes and Lac Abigail region of Quebec. Tucana believes the airborne survey is a critical step in the development of the Abigail Property.
Today, Tucana Lithium announced that they received the NI 43-101 Technical Report for the exploration program in the summer of 2011 on the Abigail Property. The Report was prepared by Donald Theberge, Eng., M.B.A at the request of the Company. The report contains the results on the reconnaissance geology program conducted by Nemaska Exploration Inc. on behalf of Tucana Lithium.
The geological reconnaissance program conducted by Nemaska Exploration in the summer of 2011 involved a recording of more than 2,000 GPS points with 39 samples being taken and analyzed. On the north part of the property, the samples revealed two pegmatites with anomalous values. The first, numbered 18070, is from a pegmatite visually containing 1 percent Mo, which returned 292 ppm Mo and 466 ppm Rb. The second, numbered 18005, is from a pink pegmatite and returned 151.5 ppm Nb, 24 ppm Sm and 147.5 ppm Ta.
http://blog.qualitystocks.net/qualitystocks-stock-newsletters/tucana-lithium-corp-tuca-is-one-to-watch-2/
The time to get in TUCA is now, while the debbie downers are selling, BEFORE they read the NI report
The knee jerk reaction here is to the lack of "we've found lithium" in the pr.
Let's see what the NI has to say in terms of where the company will be conducting its exploration program.
Chinese communist partee version.........
Amen, brother Bruce!
Bring on those assay results.
We all have been aware of WOLV's potential for a while now
It's time the rest of the junior mining community becames " aware" of the assay results.
Looks like some signs of life here.
Monarques Resources research and analysis
Date: 8 November 2011
Contributed by eResearch
By Bob Weir
Monarques Resources Inc. is a junior exploration company with seven properties in northern Quebec.
The flagship Nisk property consists of 190 claims over 9,850 hectares, and hosts copper, nickel, the platinum group, and gold. The Nisk-1 deposit has a 2009 NI 43-101 compliant resource estimate, comprising 2.04 million tonnes in Measured + Indicated (M+I) resources, containing 47.4 Mlb of Ni and 34.6 Mlb of Cu; and 1.05 million tonnes in Inferred resources, containing 18.8 Mlb of Ni and 7.4 Mlb of Cu.
In June 2011, Monarques held its IPO, during which it raised $6 million. The IPO was a pre-condition for Monarques’ spin-off from Nemaska Exploration Inc. Currently, Nemaska holds 47% of Monarques, IPO investors hold 41%, and Nemaska’s shareholders own 12%.
Since July 2011, the Company has been actively pursuing its exploration program. The biggest milestone to achieve in the near future is completion of the drilling on the key Nisk property where new anomalies have been recently discovered.
Monarques has an extensive exploration program for which it has allocated $4 million, using funds from the IPO. The program is underway.
The Company faces certain challenges. It has been publicly traded only since June 2011, and needs time to gain investor attention and confidence. Six out of seven of its properties lack resource estimates, and the timing for such resource estimates at the moment is unclear.
We give Monarques Resources a Speculative Buy rating, and have a 12 months Target Price of $0.40. The shares are suitable only for risk-tolerant investors.
http://www.stockmarketsreview.com/news/monarques_resources_research_and_analysis_20111108_186938/
Not sure where you got this info from. We are expecting an NI, but don't know the exact timing of the release.
Alert TUCA: Confirmed Big news coming this afternoon!
Explains late day run and volume yesterday.
What a long journey its been for WOLV.
I feel we will see more and more core pics in the near future.
Nice looking core pics!
I can't really comment on other stocks on the TUCA board.
But, I will pm you.
Expecting the release of the NI 43-101 report this week as a result of the volume today IMO.
Who cares about whiny shareholders that have no idea about lithium mining or how junior explorers operate? You have a great team assembled at TUCA and they are moving the ball forward.
They can get Shareholders off their back by just keeping this momentum running.
Almost $2mil in dollar trading volume so far on the day. Unreal.
Check out the L$$g era now.
Look at TUCA's post stream. And, we actually have lithium and L$xg has hot air.
Buying could be based on the NI report that's due to be released.
Could also be we are a real lithium play.
Watch your language!
Woof
That NI report must contain some pretty good info.
Eastcoastcdn did mention that those kimberlite pipes (diamonds) are on or near the Abigail property.
And remember, the Gov of Quebec did that free aerial survey to encourge mining in diamonds etc.
Shameless pumper! LOL
My snout is not in the cool aid dog bowl, not yet, anyway.
Well, once we get those results back from the assay office, we get closer and closer to proving up a porphryry copper system.
If it proves out as a porphyry copper system, those are commonly hundreds of millions to billions of metric tons... they also tend to repeat the layers of minerals to great depth with varying gaps between.. so, if there's anywhere near 0.4 % copper on average and it's porphyry then with even far less than those dimensions this becomes a world class copper mine for decades.
We are all in the same TUCA boat here awaiting the release of the NI.
Some like to complain about the delay, more than others. I prefer direct communication and transparency too.
Gotta tell ya, the Champagne, Nemaska connections make me think we may have a winner here. Time and drill results will ultimately tell the tale of this little junior explorer.
Good luck to you.
Not sure why people don't bother to read the updates more carefully and prefer to whine instead. Yes, I want the pps to be at .25 too.
Looks like we should expect an NI 43-101 compliant report to be released by by TUCA and authored by Donald Theberge.
Spoke to Jordan today. He said report from Nemaska crew is done. Yves just needs to review before sending. He was not sure if "Done" is in French or English: may still need to be translated into English. Hoping to receive it by end of this week. Results will be issued in 8Q.
43-101 will be completed by end of this month or 1st week in Nov. That will determine drill targets but they cannot commit yet to drilling this winter or next Spring. Results will help TUCA attract institutional investors to finance next phase.
Not sure what you mean. A pr from TUCA that there's a delay in the release of a pr? What would that accomplish?
OK, we have a delay. Does that mean the facts have changed? Yes, the pps has suffered.
What is the goal of a junior explorer, watch the pps like we do every day? Or do you want TUCA to try to explore and prove up what it has on the Abigail property? Lot's of activity with TUCA, Nemaska and Monarques.
Yup, a pr would be good. No argument from me.
Large volume spike over at VSYS today.
Very nice volume today! VSYS has so much going for it.
Hey tick,
good to see ya. Looks like Nemaska is ramping up.
I needs to stake me some claims too! Who's joining me!
Rumors, news etc must have leaked.
Hmmmm... new claims staked in the general area..
.. 27 Oct 2011 David Walsh (within 2 KM of Wolverine)
.. 25 oct 2011 Altius Resources
.. 25 Oct 2010 Silver Spruce Resources
.. 2 Oct 2010 Gordon Blake
.. 10 Aug 2010 Peter Rogers
More coming soon.. GLTA
Do you also call the CEO's of your big board stocks and ask them how they are running their business? LOL
Fun runner? Well, it did run.
Yeah I mean this is my only penny play. Everything else I'm in is boring dividend steady eddy (or as close as you can be there days) and this was supposed to be my fun runner and while I have snagged a bunch of shares it runs like an old man and is about as fun as his gas
Interesting financing development here.
There is a common thread that is woven between TUCA, Nemaska and Monarques. Many of the same principals are involved and have shares in all three companies.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/eresearch-issues-initiating-report-on-monarques-resources-inc-2011-11-01
MONARQUES RESOURCES INC. ("Monarques" or the "Corporation") (TSX VENTURE:MQR) is
pleased to announce it will retain the services of Bay Capital Markets Inc. for
the purposes of providing financial public relations services pertaining to the
activities of the Corporation. In carrying out its mandate, Bay Capital Markets
Inc. will establish a closer and more constant relationship between the
Corporation and the financial community as well as from news media, the whole
subject to the terms and conditions of an agreement to be entered into between
Monarques and Bay Capital Markets Inc (the "Agreement").
The Agreement has a term of twelve months from the date of its signature with
renewal terms of six to twelve months.
In consideration for its services, Bay Capital Markets Inc. will receive a
monthly service fee of $6,000. Bay Capital Markets Inc. is also entitled to the
reimbursement of certain fees and expenses in connection with the services
provided to Monarques.
Upon signature of the Agreement, an option will be granted to Bay Capital
Markets Inc. (the "Option") to purchase up to a maximum of 250,000 common shares
of Monarques (the "Option Shares") at a price of $0.40 per common share for a
period of two years following the date of grant or for 30 days following the
termination of the Agreement. The Option may not be exercised during the three
months following the date of grant. Thereafter, the Option may be exercised, in
whole or in part, in respect of one-fourth of the Option Shares for each
subsequent quarter.
The Agreement, the payment of the service fee and the grant of the Option are
subject to the approval of the TSX Venture Exchange.
Mr. Bosko Djurovic is the President, the sole director and the main shareholder
of Bay Capital Markets Inc. He will be the person who will provide services to
the Corporation. The registered office of Bay Capital Markets Inc. is located at
1200 McGill College, suite 110, Montreal, Quebec.
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=49800694&symbol=MQR
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Monarques' IPO in June 2011 was successful and brought in $6 million in cash. The Company has already allocated $4 million for exploration of its seven properties.
Since July 2011, the Company has been actively pursuing its exploration program. The biggest milestone to achieve in the near future is completion of the drilling on the key Nisk property where new anomalies have been recently discovered.
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lol This is like a chic, you can never figure them out lol
Looks like a head fake at the .121 range to shake free some cheap shares.
Very much on the down low this one.
Saw pimping talking about it on the Zecco board. LOL
What's going on here?
I'm locked and loaded but...................