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The proof? The proof is embeded in common sense. The RS will only happen if and when cybl deceides to go to the NAZ. They will not do that with a gazillion shares. Show me one case where that is the case. I doubt you can. YES, At some point in the future a RS is in the cards. When? We've got to get there first. In the near future not a chance. Anybody with basic understanding will get this. It would be irresponsible to speak to this topic other wise.
They haven't yet!!!!!
Wheat will be big in Canada and Europe. We will start our first wheat plant next year. Cellulosic is next though. It can be done now but it's expensive. When we get the technology right we will use the whole corn plant.
Thats a broad brush you paint with. That comes from Socialistic enviromentalist that don't like anything. They furnish nothing constructive only bitch. I'm not aware of any numbers put to that. What do you think happens to the corn after ethanol is made?Do you know?
Cellulosic conversion has it's problem. You will see wheat before the cellulosic conversion.
You are correct. I Was refrencing the production of Ethanol. I'm involved in the building of ethanol plants. The oil companies are not eager to give ethanol an opening. The price of ethanol is low inspite of recent increase in the price of oil. Vehicle milage does not decrease until you go over a 30% blend. Oil companies are making out like bandits because they are blending 10% ethanol in gas and not passing along the price break.
How is ethanol more damaging to the environment than oil? That's not true. I know. In fact Ethanol is being blended with gasoline now as an alternative to MTBEs. Now that's fact. Ethanol recycles just about everything very little waste. Bio Diesel is not quite as clean.
No argument there. A buy back would be ideal but it would only be realistic at these low levels. How ever they choose to do it, lots of shares need to come off the table in order to go to the NAZ. My biggest concern here is the status of the CD conversion. I will not increase my holding until I'm certain. I'm done getting hosed by the likes of Cornell!
An R/S doesn't have to be a bad thing if company is profitable. In that case it's no big deal market cap doesn't change. If it's reverse split and not profitable that is a different matter. Especially bad if you have a CD conversion in the mix. At any rate this company has to many outstanding shares to go to the NAZ. But then that is a long ways off here. Not being negative just practicle.
That's all good. Tom doesn't have all the answers and he anknowledges that there are elements of this that are beyond his conrol. That's reality. I just see some of these posts as pretty much point less as to pps at end of 08. Right now it's baseless.
Im my view the market is going to give Tom a grade on how the company succeeds. Ususally it is done by looking at earning along with projected growth. Once SWVC has EPS the market will establish a multiplier. That is and will continue to be the measure of this companies value going forward. The only other factor that will impact SWVC is Cornell. CD conversion is dilution at it's worst. In my view talking about a buck a share end of 08 is only going to work towards undermining credibility of this board. JMHO
Toms job is to run the company. If he is good as what is has been stated, he will Run the company and not focus on the PPS. If he caters to pps gaims will be temporary at best and unsustainable. If hes for real he will let the reporter report.
How about saying it will depend on the float and placing a multiple on earnings?
OK, How much stock has been issued since Tom made that statement? How many examples can you show where a company moved to the NAZ with 500 million share float? Tom will only admit to a RS after they've done it. JMHO
I can't tell you what Tom said, but I will tell you that a RS is likely if they get that far.
You know, I took a position in the stock just last week. I did that thinking the dilution was complete. At this point I'm not sure that it is. When Cornell dilutes the hell out of stock it normally ends up getting pushed to sub penny. I also thought this company was potentially ready to start generating a profit. Could I be wrong? perhaps. What is this company worth by the end of 08? Who could possibly answer that while dilution can't be eliminated from the formula. Time will tell.
Consistant or constantly? perhaps. It's becom rather obvious to me and I think most on this board that most likely they will be short of the 3.7. For me at least, the 8 million dollars set aside by the US Airforce tells you where the 3.7 is. Will it be recorded in 07? Who cares. Mute point IMO. Look at the PPs. Very little of that announcement has been factored in. Our market cap is only about 10 + million. .022 tells me that the market isn't factoring much expectation in right now. That is not a problem for me. 08 is ok for me. So, other than obvious why keep bringing that up. I don't believe that is going to drop the stock price much from where it is right now. Perhaps it has also occurred to others as it has me. Last I checked the Airforce is only one branch. Cybl appears poised to do well in 08. JMHO
I WOuld say at this point. Not meeting expectation has been factored in. If we were at .05, I'd say different. Market cap is nil. JMHO
You are a broke record.
So your Canadian Eh?
You're feeling good. I'm not sure what to think. At any rate i'm in.
Your either a pumper or a person with un brideled optimism? I can't tell which.
I can't tell that anyone really knows?
This is a very active board with very little concensious. I'm in at .0145.Wondering if I'm in to high based on todays announcement. only 50K in shares not a big deal. Was looking to get in deeper but not sure at this point.
Don't know a lot about bio-diesel but something about Ethanol.
I've lived dilution. There is nothing good about it if your invested.
I hope your right about that.
If you've invested and dilution occurs the value of your investment is lowered proportionatly to the dilution. The investors have made an involuntary donation to the company. I Know you donate and I'll buy the shares after dilution. I'll have 100% of my investment you will have 100% minus the dilution. Go ahead take the hit. Thanks in advance
I don't know about short. I'm going to maintain my position because I don't want to be pay the tax yet. Waiting on a bigger pay day. If it drops back I will add to what I have. Basicly holding 350K for long term. Trading 300K. CyBl will work out of this. One thing to consider is that it was the adversity that gave many of us the chance to pick up shares in the .003 to .006 range.FWIW
Question for the board
I'm interested in seeking out another BB OTC with potential. Any suggestions. It seems many on this board might know of another company with real potential. I'm into digital & e-govt. I like CYBL,PTSC & EGOV, Quvis is still private. I'm not currently in PTSC Looking for a good re-entry point. I don't care for those that are just momo plays. Any suggestions? Third leg, you might be good on this one.
It just pisses me off to no end to have a company with so much potential and great announcements to have such screwed up debt! I won't sell my position but will look to lighten it if we move back to the penny range. Surely at some point they will get this s#it right.
I bought in at .57 out at .59. ptsc looks to be full value at this point. Like the company. Thought it might move down at year end. Many investors who either like ptsc or dislike ptsc will be tax selling in my view. I want a position but not a negative one. Will be interesting. I gotten to the point in investing where it's just as easy to leave money out of a stock when it has had a nice run and appears to be neutral. I've lived with negative stock pps in the past a little patience can be worth a lot. I've watched ptsc for a long time. It doesn't move drasticly one way or the other in a days time. The most recent run up was unusual. I would think re-entry would be .52 maybe. anyway good luck to all.
I don't believe the Defence budget has been passed yet. I hadn't though much about it but sales could be on hold pending funding approval for the military. just a thought.
How funny. This board acts like we're at .003. LOL
Let's see how can I contribute to this itellectual conversation. I know! The sky is falling! The shy is falling. I know lets just turn out the lights the partys over!!!! No annnouncement we're so done!! HIGH RISK,HIGH REWARD! I'm loving it. Go ahead throw those shares down again. I'll pick up those shares. Bring it on you impatient people. Bring it on!!!!!!
What are you talking about. It's drop is very little. If you look at the market cap we are not below that. You are one announcement away from being at .06. Have you lost site? If we have no announcement of sales. We go to .015. That my fiend is not .003. I'm fine. With a little pull back. Totally normal.IMHO
This stock has stayed surprisingly stong. our maket cap hasn't gone out of site so the stock is probably worth what it is set at. new sales will send it on up. The one thing I Like about this company is they don't put out fluff.
Isn't that the purpose of the two patents referenced in earlier e-mails?
A lot could happen between now and year end. I tend to think it will carry into next year. What about the other testing they are doing? At some point we should get an update on that. I'm sitting tight till at least year end and most likely longer. I sold half my position. If we drop back down. I'm doubling down.
The annoucnced sale today wasn't gigantic but, it was enough to let you know that this is a serious product. I agree, we should expect more of this in the comming days. Not to mention other potential fronts.
I'm not a chartist but it does appear many think cybl could become a real company! Market cap is imo as high as it will go without news that adds value.
I see who you are responding to carry on! LOL