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On a note of more importance. I thought this shell might have been picked up but it's not looking very good right now. Was invested when the legislation crash cyos. Lost several K. I continue to monitor though.
Funny. The longer it goes the more obvious it becomes that OSAMA BARAK HUSSAIN OBAMA is not the politician of change.What ever that vaigary means. The mindless and liberal love to hear that he's about change!!! What is change? Specifics don't exist. LOL He appears to currently being brought back to earth by his own mouth. The term imploding comes to mind. He's the savior of nothing. He's not even a good politician. Oh well he will most likely become the Dems. latest hope. Originally, I thought there was no way the Dems. could lose the presidential election. History say that. But hope now abounds!!! Hell ! The Dems. won't even allow your Michigan vote to count!! Talk about voter disenfranchisement!!!! LOL Oh and the SUPERIOR vote! And these folks want to run the country? LMAO
Could be the opposite if SWVC disappoints?
NAW, To many out standing shares
You mean OSAMA BARACK Hussein OBAMMA? What a FONY!LOL How dumb are the people of this country? Pretty Damb Dumb thanks to the public school system.
Thanks for the update as you understand it.
Given the reafirming of today. No new dilution right now. Profitability by year end. Without anything else. Cybl is currently under valued and should move back up moderately. no reason to hold under .02. I think year end could end up .05 plus. JMHO
I think we all have questions. Hopefully they clairify for the better or worse.
Hopefully cybl will clairify what it all means.I'm not bailing monday. That could be a serious mistake.
Not out of the realm of possibility. I'd settle for that.
I would think so? What does that have to do with the price of eggs in China? The pr stated they had either paid off or paid down. What part of the PR is so confusing?
You know this is starting to remind me of that song. Hi-way to Hell!!! I'm now down 50% based on .0110. I guess I could ask the question, "are we there yet?"
LOL only 100? You're not that sure that SWVC won't rebound to .01.
Oh,well. Now it's time to make the rules!!!! Over what time frame?
R/S won't happen any time soon. Most likely later IF things either go very well, or extremely bad. We not close to either scenerio.IMO
It all comes down to the metrics either achieved or not. Seems like things tend to change the moment people throw in the towl!! Throw it in baby! Thow it in!
When I reference metrics what do you think I'm referencing? SWVC has laid out the metrics. Most other companies don't.
That would be ok with me. Not counting on it though.
If you know this guy you could very well be right. I don't so I tend to take a statment in the comming days to mean nothing more than soon. Which to me would mean anywhere from two weeks to a month and a half. I agree the deal is probabably done. Just because it's done don't mean they can comment immeadiately. As you know prs. are written very carfully and require much review by many. I tend to think if it had been something to occurr in 3 or 4 days they would have just made the announcement.
Serious PPS will not be seen until we see how SWVC is doing as it relates to their stated metrics they've laid out. The aquistiion is only the beginning. It's how they manage it. They've given us the ability to measure it on a quarterly basis. JMHO
Coming days to me mean anywhere from next week to the next month to month and a half. He didn't say coming months,which would carry a time frame of 6 months to a year.
What I find interesting about SWVC that allows me to stay invested is that, SWVC has laid out a stradagy of what they plan to do. It's pretty specific by my view. The other thing that I find interesting is they have place very specific metrics to a specific time line. Based on my life experiences this idicates competence & confidence. Every share holder has been given the information to evaluate how things are progressing. How many other companies do that. Especially the new start ups.
Further to that. You can tell a lot about the post of the poster.People expose themselves when they post.
That's not necessarilary true. What your post says is what it would mean if YOU were issueing that statement instead of Tom.
Actually, it's called metrics. Can SWVC hit the metrics they established in the 8K? It's all about that. jmho
Whoooooop Daaaay Doooo!!! Can't wait. Now that gets me excited!!!
Sounds more like a wet dream to me with all the sailing business.
Dang!! I want some of what your doing!!!! Hook me up Baby~~~
Given what we KNOW we should be at least .028-.030 imo. I guess when the impatient quit selling the price will rise. The fact that we are poffitable this year should be worth what I've posted.
Probably neither. We've done been slaughtered due to the toxic financing we either have or had. It not clear yet which position we still find ourselves. JMHO
Lightbeam are you suggesting that SWVC is somehow tied to Coskata?
Please explain.
I personaly believe that if we had current involvement the filings would reflect it. I think much time is spent on this board wishful thinking as opposed to accepting the reality of the postings. JMHO
I agree, it should end the debate.
This is what I believe based on the last several months.
1. SWVC doesn't have much control over the CD conversion and PPS.
2. Don't expect any prs until a metric has been met or an aquistion made.
3. SWVC primary communication will be done through the filings.
It's not there job to reassure. They have a responsibility to report on there efforts. JMHO
I believe that if SWVC had anything to do with Agri-fuels you could identify that in the filings. To my knowledge there is no evidence of any involvement. JMHO
I think what all this boils down to is metrics established in the 8K. Metrics met pps goes up. Metrics missed and pps continues to slide and feared dilution comes to pass. JMHO
I have to admit that I'm pretty disappointed at the current pps. I'm not as bad off as many here. But in my view I need to double down when I think SWVC is at the bottom. Real money will be made if SWVC executes. I don't believe the CEO should be a hand holder but, at some point the CEO should reaffirm that they are on track. Now some of the posts I read are nothing more than a pipe dream. Never gonna happen. SWVC has a chance but by the same token are highly leveraged and so execution is not an option. It's a must.I think that is the primary risk here. All this and 2 buck will get you a coffee at Star Bucks!
That may be true. One thing to think about though. The loan is secured and Wells Fargo is secured ahead of all paper holders. That said SWVC and Wells Fargo wouldn't execute a loan where by SWVC sets out to default on the loan. Wells Fargo obviously expects SWVC to succeed. I think the primary thing we have to look at are the quarter over quarter bottom line goals that are set out in the 8k.
I guess time will reveal all things. Hopefully, SWVC will be able to show results that indicate they are meeting their agreed upon ROI.If that happens the worst case scenarios will never come to pass. I'm going to sit tight for the forseable future. No question that anyone invested has money at risk. The major question with all this in place is "can SWVC execute?" No doubt about it. If SWVC fail to execute we will all be punished severely. JMHO
I disagree. It is not Toms responsibility to hold share holders hands and sing cumbaya. What Tom needs to do is stay focused on hitting the estabished milestones. That is ultimately what he will be graded on and that will either reward pps or punish it. Tom is not the chief reassurrer. He is the CEO.
I believe what you have just stated to be the right take. Much of the thing is boiler plate CYA. I'm alway surprised how many so called investors gravitate to the absolute worst case scenerio possible. Like another poster stated the large companies use this same language in their 8Ks as well. That said SWVC share holders are at risk if Tom doesn't hit the miles stones placed in the agreements. The question then IMO should be " IS THIS A MANAGEABLE RISK WORTH TAKING?"