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I guess that is a bad idea. What they did to get the price down, doesn't make it right to use the same technique to get it back up, but it sure would feel good doing it.
Chalk it up to another pinkie CEO that screwed the shareholders.
As people have done to get the stock down, it is not that difficult to get it back up. Artifically down, artificially up.
If it is a 100000 to 1 split, we have somewhat control over it.
We can bid this baby up there before the end of the last day and they would have to try to bid it down if that is what their goal was.
Went back and forth with Mark in emails (half a dozen)about this company.
He spent most of his time trying to justify a RS split; such as many of his family members, etc had stock and would be hurt by a RS split.
Increasing the Cap would only delay the inevitable.
What I didn't get was when I brought up ACDS and Servnation being moved to there (ACDS) and as a result MIKP stock plummeting.
He said that should have raised the value of the MIKP stock as it sounds like we get a kickback of ACDS.
It doesn't do any good hashing around with Mark Newbauer. He already has his mind made up. He kept referencing when he lost money in a stock a long time ago.
I do not agree with his thinking.
The only two companies under Mark's control - ADCS and MIKP are both facing the same corrupt behavior of his.
I do not own this stock but I own MIKP. I also reported him to the SEC.
These are not rumors. I will post Mark's emails after the RS split.
It is not going to happen. The only thing that will save us is the SEC which I have contacted.
I put in a complaint to the securities and exchange commission. This whole affair is in their hands now.
90 percent of stocks that do a RS split. (especially those with no merit), end up in the same place shortly thereafter.
No one wins here.
I guess it is up to the interpreter like someone said before.
If something is said in such a tone (WORDING) IT CAN INTENTIONALLY LEAD SOMEONE TO BELIEVE OTHER THAN THE FACTS.
I am not disclosing the information but a posting on this site.
omi.
I would love to show the information but via the verbage at the end of Mark's note, am not going to be able to do that.
This
Mark B. Newbauer
President/CEO
Mike The Pike Productions, Inc.
Mike The Pike Ventures, Inc.
www.MikeThePikeProds.com
office: 310-230-5642 310-230-5642
fax: 310-362-8718
TICKER SYMBOLS: $MIKP $ADCS
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CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE : This communication and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it, constitute an electronic communication within the scope of the Electronic Communication Privacy Act, 18 USCA 2510. This communication may contain non-public, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated recipient(s). The unlawful interception, use or disclosure of such information is strictly prohibited pursuant to 18 USCA 2511 and any applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, if you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately.
nobody can sell. So what good would insider knowledge be anyway.
No interpretation. He came straight out and said he was doing a reverse stock split. How many ways can you interpret that.
I just do not want to do anything illegal so am not posting publicly.
I suppose insider information when you are already on the bottom with no bid really doesn't qualify as the price cannot go any further down.
hypothetically, if I did buy shares it would be 10 shares just to raise the price.
There is going to be a reverse stock split.
Mark sent me an email just like someone else on the board. The email closed with something about it being illegal for me to share the information (in his email) online. That sounds like a bunch of crap to me. I should check with the SEC. I did not ask for inside information, but was straight to the jugalar vein (in an earlier email)and said he was a worm if he went ahead with a reverse. Now he will have to do a reverse because it he doesn't, he is actually in more trouble than if he did not. I will not destroy the email and will make multiple copies of it and send it off for safe keeping(in case they try to do me in).
ONE THING WE should do, PRIOR TO HIS REVERSE STOCK SPLIT IS BID IT WAY THE HELL UP THERE LIKE A HALF PENNY A SHARE. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY A MILLION SHARES OR ANYTHING BUT COULD BUY 10 SHARES FOR .0002, THE NEXT PERSON BUYS 10 SHARES FOR .0003 AND SO ON UNTIL WE GET TO .005. HE WANTS TO PLAY THE GAME, WE COULD PLAY THE SAME STUPID GAME. WE DO NOT DO THIS BEFORE THE SPLIT, EVERYONE LOSES AND HE WINS. WE ALSO DO NOT HAVE TO INCREASE BIDS IN INCREMENTS OF ONE. WE COULD HOP, SKIP AND JUMP. WHEN HE DOES HIS REVERSE, HE HAS TO INCREMENT IT TO $5.00 A SHARE (or whatever his ratio is)RATHER THAN .005 OR SOMETHING EVEN SMALLER (BY THE WAY WHICH EVENTUALLY GOES BACK TO .0001 with no bid).
This would have to be done on the last day before the bell or one of his goonies will bring it back down to .0001. This idea is only ficticious but I sure would like doing something like that with what he and his goonies are doing to us.
Sounds good. Thanks!
you got me there. Hopefully that is not prophetic.
I am going to say that the company has already considered this and it has already been worked into their technology.
If overheating were a concern, testing would have revealed that issue. Since testing did not reveal that aspect, I am going to say that your concern here with this company regarding amperage or whatever has ALREADY been addressed.
I think if you still have a concern, ask the company yourself.
With all of your brains, you can come up with a number to reach them.
While you may have a valid point, I think you are WRONG in your thinking that this will separate one company from another. This company is in the present and already marketing their product whether set up the way you said or not.
It may take other companies several years to get where you are talking about. I am investing in the present and am not waiting for the perfect storm.
People want to save now and the bottom line is; if I can save money now I am going to invest now in technology rather than wait for something perfect 10 years down the road.
You may be the perfect example of someone who waits too long and misses out on a lot of opportunities. It isn't always about brains and complexity that make something work.
This company has already retrofitted a lot of their technology to specific customer specifications.
You may have book knowledge on a lot of the terminology, but that doesn't impress me or a lot of others. What impresses me is something that works (now) that will save me money (now).
To me a 30 percent savings on farm equipment and vehicle transportation is a big bonus for minimal cost.
You also have to consider the cost to add other complexities to equipment (this could bring up the cost of an item). There are a lot of variables. The big picture is cost of living is high. I want to save money so I can keep my business. What will save me money now.
We have good leadership out there for HLNT. They are doing an excellent job. Let's hold on and enjoy the ride to penny land.
From the first comment I made about dilution, all I was trying to backup (and this is on facts) is that with billions of HLNT shares out there or soon to be billions of shares, while this makes it harder to reach a $1 a share, it still is good what new management has done and that being to reduce the cap.
I think HLNT will reach the pennies, but I am not going to try to tickle somebody's fancy by saying I think the share price will get to $1.00.
It is still possible for HLNT to reach a $1.00. If new management works on buying shares back when the money starts rolling in, they can still accomplish the feat. With the forward looking statements out of the equation, I wouldn't be surpised if new management could pull that off.
Reiterate please.
Where is the contradiction. One thing you have to realize, just because something is said one day, doesn't mean it will not change the next.
When new management had to clean up Humphries mess, that did change the equation. No matter how you look at it. Whenever management has to restate something that was said by a misleading ex CEO that changes things because it builds doubt in the back of someone's mind as to who the heck is telling the truth.
Let's all get on the same page here. 15 cents a share, 20 cents a share, 50 cents a share. Who the heck cares about where this stock ends up. I am sure that if the stock Monday, went up to 1 cents a share that you would be tempted to sell some of your shares, if not all of them (of course depending on your entry point, into this stock).
So again, point out the contradiction.
You are just speaking to speak. If you want to get technical, yes the stock was diluted PRIOR to new management taking over the reigns. The old CEO (not going to mention any names)caused from what new management has claimed a little cleaning up.
New management had to restate things that were not entirely true by this old CEO.
Aren't we just getting a little too technical here and jumpy.
Jumpiness with the idea of biting is usually a sign of insecurity.
Call it what you want. When you start talking billions of shares you are talking dilution.
New management has controlled the dilution rather well but they had to put a stop to what CEO H** did to rebuild HLNT's image.
This stock should go up. I am not too worried about that after listening to some of the testimonials about HLNT's technology.
If you are a backer of the $1 a share movement, I would not hire you as my broker.
Sounds good to me.
If we are talking about dilution AFTER new management took over (since March? of 2010), there has been no further dilution as the cap was lowered at least a couple of times.
Not sure what you mean? Dilution to me is raising the cap on the amount of shares that can be sold to pay bills.
To me, dilution starts happening when you get into billions of shares for the CAP.
I like how HLNTS management has reduced the cap (more than once)to bring higher shareholder value. They appear to have turned investors sediment on their company around to where it is much more positive.
I feel I have expressed positive sediment about this company (HLNT). If you read back on some of your own comments (things you wrote) they were not perfectly harmonious with dilusion. I even had to stick up for the company on some of the comments you made (as I took them to be negative sediment about HLNT).
Everything stated on this board is strictly opinion. The way others react to anothers comments is based on the way they interpret those comments and how it affects their hidden agenda and or financial goals.
When I initially started investing (in penny stocks)I was green and believed that the million dollars was around the corner on every investment and that every investment would go up to x amount of dollars.
We are discussing where we think this company may be headed and are also giving testimonies (if we have used HLNT's products).
I would be extremely happy if these shares went up to $1 or more.
I would be joining the ranks of millionaires like most of the other investors on this board.
GLTA
Well written.
I think this is good enough right here (comment referring to Mark's email) to implicate Mark if a RS split were to happen. The statement alone would make it mandatory for a court appearance based on the statement concerning Mark's email.
I chose not to believe:
That Mark is that stupid and would send a trace (email) to someone indicting himself on insider trading.
That there even is a RS stock split in order.
If there is, then I think there will be maybe even two people in jail for insider trading.
He must not like me either, then, or he is simply too busy.
Sent two emails and left one voice msg. and no response yet.
I did not side with the RS split for MIKP as it just does not mesh with all of the good news for MIKP. This would almost be a travesty.
I agree with the cap being raised on the stock but ONLY AFTER A NO RS split is announced and nothing added like at this time.
No stock split at this time and raising the AS or cap would only keep MIKP at the bottom.
This has to be a firm resolution that NO RS split. Definitively.
This gives the chance for MIKP to make a run and be a win/win for all concerned.
The other thing to realize is if an announcement is made it will not happen right away. This is another reason why it won't happen. MIKP needs money right away, correct.
There are always ways to get the price up before the split so the hit isn't so bad.
Agreed.
MIKP has a possible co-investor for ServeNation.
They have finished paying off one of the films.
I hate it when someone claims to have the physical evidence against a CEO such as an email but claims they cannot use it.
I will tell you one thing, any CEO who sends me any information regarding how he is going to screw the investors, I will send it off to the SEC or where ever else and nail the guy to a tree.
Until I find out for myself this is the case, I will not believe it.
If it is the case, Mark Newbauer welcome to jail because you will have to answer whether you are fully reporting or not.
The best win/win for all concerned is to do an announcement that there will be no R/S split. This will open up the gates for MIKP to go up, even if the cap is increased. What Mark may be doing is buying back shares. You may think, how is this possible.
We do it every day with our credit cards. We buy something today and pay for it tomorrow.
Mark buys back say 500,000,000 shares of stock at .0001 which equates to: $50,000,000. He then makes an affirmative announcement that there will be no RS split plus some good news of any kind.
The stock goes up. If Mark needs money, Mark will then sell at the higher end of the spectrum with the 50,000,000 worth of stock he bought deferred.
If the stock goes to .001, it will now be worth $500,000 to Mark so in essence (at least for the short term), he gains $450,000 dollars for his adventures without having to even raise the cap. Plus if he raises the cap he will even have all of those shares to sell.
Only thing here is time is of the essence and that is why Mark will make the announcement on Monday.
Let's see if it plays out that way. I believe this is what a smart CEO should do.
MIKP is not far enough along to RS split to gain larger investors because they don't have that much to offer at this point. Also, Mark's credibility would be lost if a RS split takes place.
Good luck on that endeavor.
That's what I like about chat rooms. You can be as vague as you want. You can say whatever you want and don't have to make sense.
Even when you don't make sense, someone will read into it and believe you have come up with something profound.
No we will not see a $1 per share. Too many shares (have to be realistic). The value of a company, share structure etc. was already explained by someone earlier today.
Also, we will probably not see $.15 to .20 cents per share either as there is too much dilution.
The good part is we have an excellent chance to make it to penny land unless for some reason, someone, somewhere (within the company is severely overstating the facts).
From the postings and testaments on this board in regard to
HLNT's technology, I believe the stock price is in for a HUGE ride up.
DAH, MAYBE ANNOUNCING NO RS split along with raising the cap will get it out of the .0001 (no bid range).
ASSUME - make an ass out of you and me.
He didn't divulge that information to you and you know it. So until he announces anything either way, you are talking out your ass.
He may be a crook. Remember, the verdict is not in yet.
This has all of the ear markings of crook:
exagerated projections such as servenation
scant balance sheet
claims of toxic PINR shares
Talk of RS split while at the same time putting out great news of things happening at the company.
Things here are not adding up. Don't forget though that until we have a verdict No RS split verses RS split, anything can happen.
I have seen it time and time again.
I can see why a CEO would laugh at people selling frantically at .0001. They are panicking. Maybe righteously so, but maybe not.
Lets give this guy a couple of days and see where he is leading us. If he raises the cap on the stock (and doesn't announce a RS split) this will still go back up a little (maybe .0004 to .0006). If he follows the No reverse stock split with good news it could be just as high or higher than it was before.
The ball is in Mark Newbauer's court.
I know what you mean, I think this is the type of crap we are dealing with. Maybe we are missing something here, but I think the forward looking statements from Mark have leaned toward the overly optimistic and full of BS side.
Servenation is not pulling in revenue like Mark first anticipated. This forward looking information only serves one interest the CEO and not the shareholders as it (forward looking statements) are not real or sincere.