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Train Wreck of the Week - December 3 2005
http://www.theinternationalforecaster.com/trainwreck.php?Id=102&PHPSESSID=d9ab1bab84c258d536d5b5....
Two sets of rules, real estate on soft ground... advocate Joe Bannister... easy exams mean no child gets left behind... Lockheed Martin gets in the business of interrogation and human cruelty with the acquisition of Sytex... republicans gambling with casinos... and more!
Some things never change. NY AG Eliot Spitzer has dropped criminal charges against Maurice Greenberg, former CEO of AIG, supposedly eliminating a possible complication in defending Spitzer’s civil suit against Greenberg. We predicted this here in the IF months ago. There are two sets of rules, one for the anointed illuminists, and one for you and us. Greenberg is a guiding light of the Council on Foreign Relations and is former OSS and CIA. He has been a money laundered and paymaster for the conspiracy for almost 60 yeas, similar to what Nicolas Deak was. The civil case will proceed and now all that has to be agreed upon is how much government will collect for issuing the get out of jail free card. The case was clear-cut fraud with criminal intent. There is also overwhelming evidence that Mr. Greenberg manipulated AIG’s stock numerous times. We recoil in absolute disgust in what passes for justice in America today.
Over the past month we’ve reported softness in real estate markets that have appreciated in a major way over the past five years. Massachusetts’ five-year housing boom, which lifted the average home price by 71% and bolstered the local economy, is over according to homeowners and real estate agents. Rising mortgage costs, a result of higher interest rates, have cooled demand as sellers rush into the market even as open houses attract few prospective buyers. There is now no question we are definitely in a buyers market. This condition will exist as long as the economy and interest rates stay as they are. If rates fall and the economy slows it will be a push. As time progresses the carrying costs for speculators and second home owners will become unbearable and thus, one-third of residential real estate could come up for sale in the absence of gains. This will exert excessive downward pressure on the market. We see this scenario as the best of circumstances. Then there is the issue of inflation and lack of wage gains, which has seen cash outs jump from 4% of resident’s disposable income in 2001 to 14% in 2004. Those cash outs are not going to be available in the future, which will put pressure on employment, disposable income and consumerism in the future.
The median price of a single-family home in Massachusetts was $360,000 in September, down 4% from a record $375,000 in August. Houses available for sale rose for the seventh month in a row to 38,319, up 1.7% from August. The number of transactions declined 19% to 4,464.
Nationwide home sales will probably dip 7.3% in this fourth quarter after reaching an all-time high in the third quarter says Fannie Mae.
In hot markets in 2006 we could see a 10% decline in others 5% and in markets that haven’t appreciated perhaps a fall of 1 or 2%. All in all prices will fall and houses will not continue to be the speculative vehicle that they have been for five years. Joe Banister was formerly an IRS Criminal Investigation Division Special Agent, who while serving in that capacity questioned the legitimacy of the manner in which the federal income tax apparatus fulfills its mission, and after resigning from that position assisted citizens engaged in IRS disputes. The IRS tied to disrupt and discredit his advocacy efforts on behalf of clients who were being railroaded by the same illegitimate operations about which he had blown the whistle. The IRS in order to discredit Mr. Banister alleged that he acted disreputably in advocating for his clients in connection with the IRS disputes and that he willfully failed to file federal income tax returns. When brought before administrative law judge Moran, Judge Moran ruled that Mr. Banister would not be allowed to present any evidence or witnesses that a lockout should be instituted against him by disbarring him from representing clients before the IRS. The IRS rubber-stamped the verdict and the lockout was completed. Mr. Banister subsequently was found not guilty as well of preparing three false and fraudulent federal income tax returns and conspiracy with one of his clients to impede, impair, obstruct and defeat the ascertainment.
Now the IRS is attempting to set in motion a series of administrative steps that will, they hope, culminate in a count ordered zipper on his lips, court-ordered shut-down of his website, and ultimately a prohibition against interacting with the public. Heretofore, IRS action to shut down Mr. Banister hasn’t worked, thus, it is clearly their intent to destroy him. They cannot have experts telling the public the truth and that is that income tax laws have been and are being illegitimately administered and enforced. Mr. Banister through seven years of harassment has endured through devout prayers and the support of tens of thousands of Americans who have supported his defense financially. Of course, the income tax enforcement apparatus, like the SEC, has an endless supply of money and talent available to destroy Mr. Banister and anyone who exposes the truth. Each time the IRS attacks him more evidence of their wrongdoing is exposed.
Joe Banister needs your financial help with donations of $50.00 or more. You can visit his site, www.ninehundred.net/banister/donation.html. He has all kinds of information available describing what has transpired. If we allow the IRS and the US Attorney to silence Joe Banister we’ll be doing ourselves and our country a great disservice. For more visit www.joebanister.blogspot.com and www.freedomabovefortune.com and at www.hearliberty.com. This year Tennessee’s eighth-grade students were tested in math and 87% performed at or above the proficiency level. Now federal government tests have only 21% of these children being proficient.
The federal government contends educators have created easy exams to avoid sanctions under the No Child Left Behind Act imposed by our Congress and President.
In Mississippi, 89% of fourth graders passed and only 18% failed. The same occurred in Oklahoma, North Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, Alaska and Texas, and more then a dozen other states all showed students doing far better on their reading and math tests than the federal one.
In a bow to states’ rights, the states are allowed to use their own tests in meeting the law’s central mandate – that schools increase the percentage of students demonstrating proficiency each year. The law requires 100% of the nations’ students to reach proficiency, as each state defines it by 2014. After 2014, at the present pace, by federal standards, 80% of students might stay in the fourth grade forever. Of course, that won’t happen, but what we foresee happening is the fed’s taking over education, completely as governments in the Soviet Union and Germany did in the 1930s. Then the dictatorial doctrine can be taught at full force with no interference from states or communities or parents.
This year less than half of South Carolina’s 1,109 schools met the federal law’s benchmark for the percentage of students showing proficiency, and the state has set world-class standards. Again, as far as we are concerned where only 50% of children and schools can make the federal grade in the best scoring schools, it convinces us that all the elitists want is control. In this process our children are the losers. We should have legislation reversing the use of NAEP, National Assessment of Educational Progress, and get rid of it. Then we can get back to teaching our children and stop wasting money on excessive testing.
Lockheed Martin’s new acquisition of Sytex makes them one of the biggest recruiters of private interrogators. They are currently supplying and seeking interrogators for Iraq and Afghanistan, which means the US has no intention of stopping its torture of prisoners.
Needless to say, there are many other private contractors who are supplying interrogators who earn close to $100,000 a year. Both Lockheed and another Virginia based company have no bid contracts and essentially do as they please. These criminals in the White House refuse to stop torturing people.
We have had little to say regarding the investigation of Jack Abramoff, waiting for it to unfold. It looks like a beauty. On the hot seat with Jack are Tom De Lay (R-TX), Bob Ney (R-OH), John Doolittle (R-CA) and Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT). The investigation is wide open and includes defrauding Indian tribes with casinos and lenders in a casino cruise line deal, whose owner was murdered. Seventeen additional current and former congressional aides are also under the gun.
The latest target, Senator Burns, arranged for the Saginaw Chippewa tribe in Michigan to obtain a $3 million congressional grant to build a school. This is odd, because of its Indian gambling; the tribe is one of the richest in the nation and makes annual $70,000 payments to each member.
Private investigators and journalists have chased down a torture plane seen all over Europe. It is registered to Keeler & Tate Mgt., whose office and telephone in Nevada belong to Paul Laxalt, one of Ronald Reagan’s best friends. Everyone is in on the moneymaking.
The evidence could not be more painfully clear and the path could not be more disturbing as we rush headlong toward a total police state and the New World Order.
We are moving ahead on all fronts. As we predicted the crash of our automotive industry is upon us and as yet, no significant action by our President and Congress. They are too busy promoting free trade and globalization, which is the antithesis of saving our industry, American jobs and our country. We are facing the deliberate destruction via an almost totally purchased political generation. The ends of our international money-financial interests are again about to be served. What they are doing just didn’t happen, it’s not coincidence; it’s deliberate and intentional. After the end of the Cold War and the Soviet Union in 1989, we should have had our recession, straightened out our problems and been able to prosper. Instead, we had a minor recession and moved onto the greatest creation of money and credit in world history, which as we can all see was totally unnecessary except to serve the interests of international illuminists. Not only do they want to subject you to a police state world government, but they also want to buy your assets, or confiscate your assets for $0.20 on the dollar as they have done so often in the past. The US, Canada, the UK and Europe have been irreparably ruined. The great leveling process is taking place. Never again will nations reach supremacy and sovereignty as they have in the past 100 years. You are about to witness the predatory looting of mankind by illuminist matoids. We are sliding back into the subterranean Dark Age that led to the collapse of Venetian banking in 1348, which was accompanied by the plague. Maybe today it will be the bird flu, an illuminist creation. Only the name has changed, globalization. Today’s arranged wars are not that different than those of the fourteenth century. As then, today nation states will cease to exist under world government. These are the same people who have financed every war since the twelfth century on both sides. They arranged WWI, Korea, Vietnam, the Balkans for the umpteenth time, and two Iraqi wars, etc. What is deeply disturbing is those who are not elitists, who are in positions of authority and decision making, do not have a clue to what is happening to them and their country and the public as well is in the dark, and those who discover there is a problem do not want to know abut it. We have been informing Americans in print and radio and TV for almost 40 years, yet few wanted to listen. They should all be mindful that there is no acceptable evasion of their own guilt. Yes, they are lied to and brainwashed, but they make little effort to comprehend the actual nature of the world in which they live. Of course, none of the above believes in conspiracy theories, it is not politically correct or fashionable.
Do you want to read more by Bob Chapman? There are 95 previous issues for you to read.
Rogue
otc....I'm truly sorry you're so blind and ignorant to see what's going on.
I've posted some excellent reference material for you to educate yourself on where we've been and where we're going in this country. I've gotten no comment from you except some lameass computer excuse. You seem to want to "rip into me" instead of the facts.
The JFK film I believe would've be a real "slap in the face" wake-up call to your current beliefs.
Your fascist neo-nazi Bush boys have some bloody real interesting history. Clinton(ex CIA) wasn't any better.....Monica was a huge "smokescreen" to the crap in that administration in much the same way WaterGate was when the vultures were circling around the CIA and the Kennedy killers back in the 1970's.
I can't force you to look at it or try to see thru all the lies and deception out there today. Like the old saying....."you can lead a jackass to water, but you can't force him to drink it".
It's a shame you're so fooled....I really think you and you're family are going to someday miss the free country we once knew.
Rogue
Lentinman/Ander....you two guys are laughable. From the hot air you two guys spew sometimes I'd have to guess you both have political ambitions!!
ROFLMAO!!!!
BLAH BLAH BLAH.....
Rogue
Ander...you stated, "I don't know what is worse with these amateur investigators and scientists.
That they make connections between seveal unrelated pieces of knowledge that with enough study they would realize would be false."
Now are you talking about the hideously laughable Warren Commission investigation on the JFK assassination or the equally ridiculous "9/11 investigative panel"????
Don't be "so vague" when you are being critical of the "political hacks" that make a damn mockery of us freedom loving Americans that still have a brain and can still think for ourselves!!!!
sincerely,
Rogue
10 bagger.... I really like the idea of foreign stocks being included. I'ts really the only new idea thrown into the contest I see anything positive about or benficial from an "investors" standpoint.
Sharing of stock value ideas is a prime asset of the VMC board. Most true value I'm really seeing is outside the US....mainly Canada in my portfolios, although I'm sure their are other "value" countries. I'd sure like to hear about these cheap foreign stocks from the boardmembers! Let us have them!!
Much more interesting to me and the chance to find real "deep value" much more likely in my opinion with foreign stocks included. Getting great foreign picks from the boardmembers would be the only "new thing" about this contest I'd be likely to get excited about.
Rogue
Happy Holidays for the Season of Taking
http://badattitudes.com/MT/
As we enter the season of giving, let’s reflect upon the takers. Mrs. Batard sends the link:
We really thought that after five years of lies, trumped-up wars, torture, secret prisons, assaults on civil liberties. etc., etc., etc., that absolutely nothing could shock or disgust us that much anymore.
Boy, were we wrong.
That’s because before tonight, we did not know about Long Island defense contractor David H. Brooks, the poster boy for the orgy of greed, cynical corruption, and abuse of decent, everyday American workers and soldiers that history will come to know as the Bush years.
You see, Brooks and his company — DHB Industries — make a lot of the bulletproof vests that our fighting men and women over in Iraq and Afghanistan have been wearing. The Pentagon bought them even though the union of mostly low-paid workers at DH’s plant in Florida; a small, muckraking paper, the Marine Corp Times; and experts from two government agencies had been warning that the vests didn’t stop 9 mm bullets. Earlier this year, the Marines finally recalled some 5,277 of the DHB vests.
Forget about the fact that scores of DHB investors are now suing the company after Brooks cashed in a whopping $186 million of his stock just days before it tanked. Or the allegations of union busting. It is for the crime — moral if not legal — of selling shoddy body armor to our troops that we’d like to see Brooks sent off to jail.
Except Brooks is not only a very free, and very rich man, but he’s now taking all that money that he’s reaped from George W. Bush’s wars, and he’s rubbing it in your face.
This weekend, Brooks spent a reported $10 million of his war profits… on a bat mitzvah. A bat mitzvah where the entertainers included Aerosmith, 50 Cent, Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks, and more. He even sent the public corporation’s jet to Pittsburgh to pick up Steve Tyler and Joe Perry.
Some day, this party will get a whole chapter when they write “The Decline and Fall of the American Empire.” We wonder if an endangered kimodo dragon was on the menu.
Rogue
I'll try to let you simply know where I stand.
Like the very credible former CIA Director William Colby and Colonel Fletcher Prouty, I believe the real enemy is deeply emboweled "within" our government. (I'll tell you why "they" murdered Colby shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing someday and why the man Bill Clinton called "the most dangerous radio talk show host in America", Willaim Cooper, was murdered right after 9/11).
We have the greatest form of government on the planet that I know of....the Bill of Rights is precious and to me is worth fighting for and dieing for and going to war for.
Unfortunately the war in the Middle East is going to ultimately destroy our government and personal freedoms.(I'd bet the "house" on that one although I absolutely don't want to see it happen!) I can't support a war that is destined to destroy our great nation. I've never been able to disagree with the premise for the Bill of Rights. "They" are hellbent on destroying personal freedoms and liberties in exchange for a Fascistic order. The "ready to go" Patriot Act right after 9/11 is a travesty in the direction of totalitarian control and a police state.
This enemy within is extremely powerful, dark, evil and murderous. If you thought Adolph Hitler was an evil monster....what would you think about the real people behind the destruction of the Twin Towers in NYC on 9/11/2001???
I'm "disturbed" by the EVIDENCE on 9/11 and I'm NOT ALONE....no matter what that "anti-conspiracy nutjob" Lentinman says! LOL! The government obfuscation of the events that day have "sealed the deal" in my mind that the "agenda" will be carried out to full plan.
I truly fear for what is coming next ....I don't know what or when. But I have a hunch and would bet that it might involve the nucleur destruction of Washington, D.C. Go ahead and call me a nutjob for saying that......but guess who else has said that in the last few years????....
None other than insurance tycoon Warren Buffet has commented on those very same fears!!
Let's just say that after years of "very intensive research" I'm truly concerned that our form of government is in EXTREME DANGER. I fear that "out of the ashes of destruction" we may see a new form of government.....or as Adolph Hitler once said, "A New World Order". (Yes Hitler said it before G.H.W. Bush).
http://www.government-propaganda.com/skull-n-bones.html
http://www.prouty.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Colby
Rogue
I'll try to let you simply know where I stand.
Like the very credible former CIA Director William Colby and Colonel Fletcher Prouty, I believe the real enemy is deeply emboweled "within" our government. (I'll tell you why "they" murdered Colby shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing someday and why the man Bill Clinton called "the most dangerous radio talk show host in America", Willaim Cooper, was murdered right after 9/11).
We have the greatest form of government on the planet that I know of....the Bill of Rights is precious and to me is worth fighting for and dieing for and going to war for.
Unfortunately the war in the Middle East is going to ultimately destroy our government and personal freedoms.(I'd bet the "house" on that one although I absolutely don't want to see it happen!) I can't support a war that is destined to destroy our great nation. I've never been able to disagree with the premise for the Bill of Rights. "They" are hellbent on destroying personal freedoms and liberties in exchange for a Fascistic order. The "ready to go" Patriot Act right after 9/11 is a travesty in the direction of totalitarian control and a police state.
This enemy within is extremely powerful, dark, evil and murderous. If you thought Adolph Hitler was an evil monster....what would you think about the real people behind the destruction of the Twin Towers in NYC on 9/11/2001???
I'm "disturbed" by the EVIDENCE on 9/11 and I'm NOT ALONE....no matter what that "anti-conspiracy nutjob" Lentinman says! LOL! The government obfuscation of the events that day have "sealed the deal" in my mind that the "agenda" will be carried out to full plan.
I truly fear for what is coming next ....I don't know what or when. But I have a hunch and would bet that it might involve the nucleur destruction of Washington, D.C. Go ahead and call me a nutjob for saying that......but guess who else has said that in the last few years????....
None other than multi-billionaire insurance tycoon Warren Buffet has commented on those very same fears!!
Let's just say that after years of "very intensive research" I'm truly concerned that our form of government is in EXTREME DANGER. I fear that "out of the ashes of destruction" we may see a new form of government.....or as Adolph Hitler once said, "A New World Order". (Yes Hitler said it before G.H.W. Bush).
http://www.government-propaganda.com/skull-n-bones.html
http://www.prouty.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Colby
Rogue
OTC....please do yourself a favor and upgrade your computer so that you can watch that excellent documentary on the Kennedy assassination I've posted!!
It would be a good starting point I think to free yourself and others out there from the "alternative reality" most people are living in today.
Rogue
otc.....I'll try to let you simply know where I stand.
Like the very credible former CIA Director William Colby and Colonel Fletcher Prouty, I believe the real enemy is deeply emboweled "within" our government. (I'll tell you why "they" murdered Colby shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing someday and why the man Bill Clinton called "the most dangerous radio talk show host in America", Willaim Cooper, was murdered right after 9/11).
We have the greatest form of government on the planet that I know of....the Bill of Rights is precious and to me is worth fighting for and dieing for and going to war for.
Unfortunately the war in the Middle East is going to ultimately destroy our government and personal freedoms.(I'd bet the "house" on that one although I absolutely don't want to see it happen!) I can't support a war that is destined to destroy our great nation. I've never been able to disagree with the premise for the Bill of Rights. "They" are hellbent on destroying personal freedoms and liberties in exchange for a Fascistic order. The "ready to go" Patriot Act right after 9/11 is a travesty in the direction of totalitarian control and a police state.
This enemy within is extremely powerful, dark, evil and murderous. If you thought Adolph Hitler was an evil monster....what would you think about the real people behind the destruction of the Twin Towers in NYC on 9/11/2001???
I'm "disturbed" by the EVIDENCE on 9/11 and I'm NOT ALONE....no matter what that "anti-conspiracy nutjob" Lentinman says! LOL! The government obfuscation of the events that day have "sealed the deal" in my mind that the "agenda" will be carried out to full plan.
I truly fear for what is coming next ....I don't know what or when. But I have a hunch and would bet that it might involve the nucleur destruction of Washington, D.C. Go ahead and call me a nutjob for saying that......but guess who else has said that in the last few years????....
None other than insurance tycoon Warren Buffet has commented on those very same fears!!
Let's just say that after years of "very intensive research" I'm truly concerned that our form of government is in EXTREME DANGER. I fear that "out of the ashes of destruction" we may see a new form of government.....or as Adolph Hitler once said, "A New World Order". (Yes Hitler said it before G.H.W. Bush).
Rogue
Otc/Lentinman/Gilead.....How did you like the info I posted about the late great American patriot Colonel Fletcher Pouty??? Quite astonishing and shocking....isn't it?
Does he have enough credibility for you guys????
http://www.prouty.org/
LOL!! It'd be harder to find anyone who was more of an insider in the "milatary industrial" complex during the Kennedy administration than him.
He's an admirable American patriot....I hope there's still lot's like him actively left in the US milatary organization.
Rogue
otc....I'm sure it all seems very wierd to you , and it is.
BUT the fact is that those involved in this are very actively involved in "esoteric rituals and rites" and "symbolism".(See some of the crazy stuff involved with the Skull and Bones alone).
Unless you have some sort of "primer" on these wierd esoteric things I'm sure it sounds a lttle nuts. And guess what......it is!!! I hope to get around to posting some good research into this for others to look at.
As the former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under President Reagan Dr. Paul Craig Roberts said......Bush and his group of Fascist Neo-Con warmongers ARE pyscho-insane!!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=8526457
Rogue
Gilead...this is a tremendous resource site by an high ranking insider in the milatary industrial complex by the name of Colonel Fletcher Prouty....
http://www.prouty.org/
There are some great audio and video clips on this site.
Sorry OTC!!!..... but I must paste and clip this because this man Prouty has too much credibility......more than I ever will. It would do this man "no justice" for rogue to "paraphrase" him.
I'll let this highly credible man and his site speak for itself....
Here's a few comments on his JFK book...
JFK book reviews
basement@dnai.com Tim Canale from California , January 6, 1999 - 5 stars
Highly Recommended!!
Prouty gives us the point of view of both an ace historian and an insider taking us from the origins of the cold war up through the assassination of President Kennedy, and then on up through tomorrow night's evening news. It's haunting how the power elite's patterns of military strategies and propaganda tactics of that era correlate with many of today's current events. Just the other day somebody on TV was screaming, "Why wasn't there an objective in Desert Fox?!" while at the same time I'm reading the answer in Prouty's book, yet the book was written 6 or 7 years ago.
This isn't a book only on the Kennedy assassination, but Kennedy's bold decisions which led to his death and the forces behind it all. He explains clearly the post-H-bomb military strategy of aiding both sides of the fence in Vietnam to win the REAL war - big business. We get an inside look at the Dulles brothers and their direct line to the "High Cabal" which overrules even the White House.
I once heard Col. Prouty say in an interview that he's never read a page of the Warren Commission's 26 volumes of hearings on the assassination. He said he didn't have to because he knew who did it. I thought that was a bit odd, but after reading this book I understand what he means. Prouty had worked with these guys! These are the same forces that overthrew the Philipines, Greece, Iran, Bulgaria and Guatemala (to name just a few).
Out of all the books written about the Kennedy assassination this is easily one of the best. Check out his website!
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Gregory Burnham (monk113@pacbell.net) from San Diego, California , December 24, 1998 - 5 stars
"The Truth Shall Set You Free" - Plaque at CIA's entrance
These words of St. John are displayed at CIA's Head Quarters in Langley, VA. The DCI, (Director of Central Intelligence), Allen Dulles, was not known for his ability to write good "original" material... At one time, he commissioned one E. Howard Hunt to ghost write for him. That might be likened to a liar who hires a thief to tell the truth! Colonel Leroy Fletcher Prouty was not cast from the same "mold" that produced the likes of Colson, MacGruder, Hunt, Sturgis, McCord, Liddy, Mitchell, Hoover, LeMay, Lansdale, and all the rest... No, he was cast from a very different mold... a mold of integrity and dedication to his country, the United States of America.
Imagine a patriotic young man, who enlists into the military, sees combat as a subordinate on the front lines, is commissioned by his superiors (as they recognized the leadership capabilities that he possessed), and is eventually placed in a newly created position: Chief of Special Operations, as an adjunct to his previous title of "Focal Point Officer/Military Liaison" in support of all CIA Clandestine Operations, as per National Security Council Directive #5412. It is from this very perspective that the good Colonel speaks... and he does, in fact, speak the truth.
I would do a disservice to those who seek an accurate account of the CIA, Vietnam, and the Plot to Assassinate JFK, if I failed to mention the following:
Those who criticize or attack the content of this most important "work" of Fletcher, have failed to understand that: "In the interest of a LEGITIMATE National Security Agenda" many covert activities were necessary to insure the continued security of the United States. In such instances any and all of the brave men and women, be they CIA, military, or civilian personnel, who have engaged in such activity, including Fletcher Prouty, are to be commended for their heroism and dedication to the freedom of us all, as unpalatable as many of these activities may seem to those of us who have only known "peace" in our home land. Without the work of the many "human assets" whose dedication to preserving our security at times included, what is euphemistically called "Black Ops"-- we would not be free today to speak of these issues. In this context, "Black Ops" can be seen as a necessary, albeit "unfortunate choice" - However, choosing the lesser of two or more evils MUST be made at times.
At what point does one say "enough is enough?" I believe Colonel Prouty's insight is extremely acute because of the honesty of the man AND the unique "position" he held at the fulcrum of the meeting point between the military, industrial and intelligence complex, of the United States. If one who is in such a position:
1. "Knows the signature of black ops" from years of experience;
2. Witnesses the "breakdown" of the Law mandated by Congress as a "Control Mechanism" -- i.e., the NSC's ability to DIRECT the activities of the intelligence community;
3. Ultimately recognizes that the removal of the main member of the NSC, President John F. Kennedy, was saturated with the "fingerprints" of a very carefully orchestrated "coup d'etat";
Then, (if such an individual is a true patriot), he is under an obligation to "right the wrongs" to the best of his ability... even if it may mean speaking of things that, despite their truth, will tend to strain the credibility of the messenger.
I applaud Colonel Prouty's courage, dedication, wisdom, excellent reportage, attention to detail, and finally, his relentless committment... He is an excellent messenger.
In the words of Jim Garrison: "Do not forget your dying king..."
GO_SECURE
Gregory Burnham
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trut@erols.com Noah Gladstone from Bensalem, PA , December 20, 1998 - 5 stars
Insightful look at the real history from an insider
Col. Prouty had an inside look at the real affairs of state. His description of events may be shocking to most American's, who get news in sound bites and history in sterilized censored history books. Col. Prouy points the finger at the men behind the scenes who really ran this country. Col. Prouty exposes the real causes behind the failed policies in Vietnam and how Kennedy's policy of pull out( contained in National Security Action Memorandum 263) caused Kennedy's assassination.
This book should be required reading on political science courses, it trumps all other texts.
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mindgame@bc.sympatico.ca Anita Langley, Canada , December 14, 1998 - 5 stars
Comprehensive, cutting edge truth, not to be taken lightly.
Col. Prouty's rare insight into world events is enhanced enormously by his unique position in the Pentagon heirarchy. The Col. is not a very speculative author, to his benefit and to the benefit of us all. His writings are based on personal experiences, anecdotes which set the stage for understanding the subtle and not so subtle politics surrounding the pivotal events of recent history. Col. Prouty was truly positioned at the nerve center of the military industrial complex. Having read numerous works by this author, I must say that I agree with Oliver Stone, I think it is quite likely that future history students will look at the various works of Col. Prouty as precious materials useful for gaining understanding of this volatile era. In addition, I suspect Col. Prouty will go down in history as one of the most memorable heroes of this age.
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Smith_Dick@msn.com from Dallas, Texas , September 11, 1998 - 5 stars
This vital work is a MUST READ for ALL Americans.
Col. Prouty's most informative book exposes the vicious, greedy, and super-anonymous hand of the "High Cabal" as none other has dared attempt. It clearly demonstrates the bizarre and disgusting chain of events (created by the OSS and CIA) that began before the end of WWII; events that led to President Eisenhower's unprecedented farewell address (and warning) to the nation. These events also led to the creation of President John F. Kennedy's National Security Action Memorandum #263, which called for de-escalation of the Vietnam War and withdrawal of all troops from Vietnam; the memorandum that ultimately led to his death.
This work exposes the planned genocide of millions of innocent, non-combatant Southeast Asian civilians, under the guise of such noble sounding terms as "pacification." Readers learn that none of these attacks on the peace-loving Southeast Asians were undertaken to protect any nation or preserve any ideology. Rather, they were thrust upon the Southeast Asians to further feed the exceedingly bulging pockets of greedy international bankers and the insidious military-industrial complex. These events also served to further perpetuate the High Cabal's iron-fisted, though ultra-secret, control over American government, among others, and the world economy. Vietnam is but one homeland that the High Cabal has decimated to serve its own purposes. There have indeed been many others throughout history. The question is: who's next? Perhaps us? Every American should read this vitally important book. And, think about it...
Hats off to Col. L. Fletcher Prouty. A truly great American! I proudly salute you, Sir.
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A reader , July 28, 1997 - 5 stars
America's Wake-Up call
Flecther Prouty is one of America's greatest patriots. He has chosen to come forward and show the people how our government truly operates- from the propoganda in the media to formulated coups. I could not put this book down. I found it as shocking as it was interesting. I'm not sure what we as a nation can do to get our government back, but this book certainly woke me up. How can we be so apathetic to the lies spewed out by the power elite? I hope someday the government comes clean, but I don't think it will happen. Why should they when they have no accountability? If we don't see and hear Dan Rather talk about, it doesn't exhist, right?
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A shopper , June 15, 1996 - 5 stars
Very, very good.
I am a fan of Col Prouty, ever since I read The Secret Team. Oliver Stone is in excellent company, because both of these men aren't afraid to tell the truth. It is exactly the lack of truth that is killing the United States.
Those who attack this book, and Stone, with the usual ignorant hysterics, are part of the cancer that is destroying the very innards of the last, great democracy on earth. JFK's assasination was just a symptom of disease that is ravageing us today. This book supports this point. By the way, if you believe the results of the Warren Commmission, (the House Select Comm. on Assasinations didn't, in 1976-78),then you are part of the problem.
This book gives an excellent pre-text to the take-over plans of the war-industy complex,starting after World War II. Prouty clearly states how the US Navy took part in the destabilization of Viet Nam by assisting in exporting tribes to the south. The resulting mess fell into Kennedy's hands. You can understand why the fascists would have to dispatch a man like Kennedy, because he tried to do what was right. He was too charismatic, and he was correct. He could move too get emotionally involved, and then to act. This was viewed to be a dangerous thing. Kennedy's Presidential Memorandum #263 was the spark the could ignite a conflagration, pulling the armed forces out of Viet Nam. This correct moral action would lead to other positive events, such as the deconstruction of the war machine at home. If this course was allowed to be taken. It didn't , of course. The Military Right Wing and Ultra Hawks of the US had to liquidate Kennedy. Then, later, Bobby, Malcom X, King... and I am sure that it was They were all done in by the same smoking gun. They couldn't stand in the light of truth, like a vampire can stand the light of the sun.
The problem is still rampant today, Ladies and Gentlemen. Read this book before revisionist history forces it from the shelves. Keep it alive, talk about it. You'll find that you will defend it when you see the context that is carefully presented by Prouty. Also, think about how (now) Sen. Arlen Specter told us how the "magic" bullet is proof of the single assasin theory. Then think about how he told us that this same bullet dediced to wait in the air 1.6 seconds before striking Gov. Connally, and then move on to kill President Kennedy, and still later was recovered with absolutely no loss of mass. Think, then reject the fantasy tale outright. Specter was a liar, then as he is today, and the Warren Commisssion's finding are pathetically false.
You should then read this book.
It's not fantasy. The cancer grows as you read this, but it is not too late... I think. If enough people get informed, and then act according to their conscience, they can then eradicate the cancer. There are not enough liar/fascists to stop a revolution of the truth. Today, they are afraid, and for good reason. Thank you.
MBF
Rogue
Lentinman.......Would you be "amused" or "intrigued" or just plain "brain dead" if I told you that President George H.W. Bush's most infamous speech about a "1000 points of light....A New World Order" happenned on September 11, 1991??
What happened exactly 10 years later? Think it's just a coincidence???
Rogue
Kennedy was actively working to get us out of Vietnam!! There were Presidential directives to that order just prior to his murder that were repealed when Johnson took over.
The "milatary industrial complex" meat-grinder(Skull and Bones network) was not amused by Kennedy's innitiatives.
The network that killed Kennedy is alive and well and stronger than ever today.
Rogue
Gilead...I beg to differ. It does answer your question!! They had to get rid of him(JFK) because he "was on" to them and actively getting rid of them!
What would JFK tell us from the grave if he could speak??
It's all in the documentary my friend!
Rogue
Gilead....When you watch the documentary you will find out that the CIA and the "milatary industrial complex" were and are "infested" by members of a certain secretive group called Skull and Bones. CIA actually was founded by members of Skull and Bones.
Kennedy knew how they operated(very subversively) and he tried (unsuccessfully since they killed him)to "dismantle" these sinister behind the scenes operators. He actually was booting them out of their governmental positions just prior to them "whacking" him in Nov.'63.
President Eisenhower in his office farewell address went(just prior to JFK taking office) to great lengths to warn of a threat to our great freedoms by the entrenched "milarary industrial complex" in our nation. And Eisenhower was a milatary man himself.
Another great film is the DVD version of Olive Stone's "JFK'. There's alot of great added features besides the 3 1/2 hour movie. Interviews with milatary generals and the like.
"JFK" is a hell of a great movie for a hollywood production....also highly recommmended in line with the aforementioned JFK documentary!!
Rogue
Otc....Same to you. Watch the POWERFUL video then let's have a discussion.
Did you watch it????
I've asked you to watch it numerous times. .....have you????
Are you afraid of the truth too????
Rogue
If you don't want to watch the documentary I can't force you....
What are you afraid of?????
The truth?
Rogue
My comment to you is watch the video!!! Watch the video!
http://www.government-propaganda.com/skull-n-bones.html
That video answers all your questions better than I could and in only 92 minutes and gives you a historical perspective on where we are today in this nation.
Dispute if you will any of the information contained in it.
It's a POWERFUL and SHOCKING expose to everyone that watches it!
Rogue
It only figures that the hundreds of billions of dollars appropriated to the CIA and "Homeland Security" after the 9/11 "attack" would end up buying a "little" propaganda outside the major US news outlets.
LoL!
Rogue
NXG...one of my pick sixers. I own a boatload from around $1 average and think it will eventually get a huge speculative run.
Rogue
Kennedy did remove several high ranking CIA government officials(Skull and Bones) just days before his murder. CIA was really running the show and tryng to set policy beneath Kennedy.
There's an audio clip somewhere on the net of Kennedy speaking about "breaking the CIA into a thousand pieces" just before his assassination.
And of course George H.W. Bush(squirrely unsavory character he is) used to speak of "a thousand points of light"....A New World Order???
Hmmmm....
And of course on the one year anniversary of 9/11 they "memorialized" the destroyed towers with 1000 huge aerial spotlights.
Hmmm....
Just watch the EXCELLENT JFK assassination video and maybe things will become more clear...
http://www.government-propaganda.com/skull-n-bones.html
Rogue
slowfeet.....you're welcome to join the action on the VMC Survey Board!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=4121
Rogue
Would "they" have killed Kennedy to go to WAR???
If anyone's intersted in who "they" may be?.....just check out the EXCELLENT documentary on JFK's assassination I posted.
So far nothing but Rave reviews! But it's not for the squemish or faint of heart!
Check out this fresh news story just out today...
Analysis Casts Doubt on Vietnam War Claims By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer
Fri Dec 2, 5:31 AM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/vietnam
WASHINGTON - Another war, another set of faulty intelligence findings behind it.
Forty years before the United States invaded Iraq believing Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, it widened a war in Vietnam apparently convinced the enemy had launched an unprovoked attack on two U.S. Navy destroyers.
Papers declassified by the National Security Agency point to a series of bungled intelligence findings on the purported clash in the Gulf of Tonkin that led Congress to endorse President Johnson's escalation of the Vietnam conflict in August 1964.
Among the documents released Thursday is an article written by NSA historian Robert J. Hanyok for the agency's classified publication, Cryptologic Quarterly. In it, he declares that his review of the complete intelligence shows beyond doubt "no attack happened that night."
Claims that North Vietnamese boats attacked two U. S. Navy destroyers on Aug. 4, 1964 — just two days after an initial assault on one of those ships — rallied Congress behind Johnson's build-up of the war. The so-called Gulf of Tonkin resolution passed three days later empowered him to take "all necessary steps" in the region and opened the way for large-scale commitment of U.S. forces.
As with the intelligence that convinced the administration and lawmakers that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, the article asserts officials gave much weight to scant evidence.
But, also like Iraq, it did not find that top administration officials ordered up fabricated evidence to suit their wishes.
Instead, in the case of Vietnam, they were presented with an incomplete story, Hanyok said. Of the intelligence-gatherers who got it wrong, he added: "They walked alone in their counsels."
The agency released more than 140 documents in response to requests from researchers trying to get to the bottom of an episode that unfolded in the South China Sea that cloudy night, and has been disputed since.
"The parallels between the faulty intelligence on Tonkin Gulf and the manipulated intelligence used to justify the Iraq war make it all the more worthwhile to re-examine the events of August 1964 in light of new evidence," researcher John Prados said.
Prados is a specialist on the Gulf of Tonkin at George Washington University's National Security Archive, which is not affiliated with the National Security Agency, and which pressed for release of the documents through Freedom of Information requests and other means.
Hanyok's article reviews signals intelligence, or SIGINT, from that time and concludes that top administration officials were only given material supporting the claim of an Aug. 4 attack, not the wealth of contradictory intelligence. His study was published in 2001 and does not necessary reflect the agency's position.
"In truth, Hanoi's navy was engaged in nothing that night but the salvage of two of the boats damaged on 2 August," Hanyok wrote.
He said "the handful of SIGINT reports which suggested that an attack had occurred contained severe analytical errors, unexplained translation changes, and the conjunction of two unrelated messages into one translation. This latter product would become the Johnson administration's main proof of the Aug. 4 attack."
He said he did not find "manufactured evidence and collusion at all levels"; rather, it appeared intelligence-gatherers had made a series of mistakes and their superiors did not set the record straight.
Conflicting and confused reports from the scene have long cast doubt on whether the events unfolded as claimed.
Hanyok's analysis of previously top secret intelligence adds insight on North Vietnam's communications from that time, showing, he said, that the supposed attackers did not even know the location of the destroyers, the USS Maddox and C. Turner Joy, as the two ships patrolled off the North Vietnam coast.
A shorter agency study done years earlier and also released Thursday indicated the ships did not know what, if anything, was coming at them as they zigzagged to evade what the crews feared were torpedoes.
That study concluded with a wry note, saying the destroyers resumed their patrols after a heavy round of U.S. air strikes on North Vietnam ports, "and the rest is just painful history."
A detailed chronology assembled days after the episode for the Joint Chiefs of Staff by J.J. Merrick, commander of Destroyer Division 192, reflected the uncertainty of that night.
It said sonar in many cases picked up sounds that were believed to be torpedoes but turned out to be "self noise" — the beating of the ships' own propellers, or noise from patrol boats or supporting planes that were strafing the dark sea, unable to see any prey.
In another instance, however, the report contended a "torpedo wake was seen by four people."
The Maddox had come under fire from North Vietnamese patrol boats Aug. 2, taking only superficial damage.
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On the Net:
National Security Agency documents: http://www.nsa.gov/vietnam/index.cfm
National Security Archive: http://www.gwu.edu/nsarchiv/
Rogue
gilead...You have to watch the documentary and comment.
There are all kinds of crazy theories out there but there is only ONE thing that happened on Nov.22, 1963. The documentary exposes lot's of history that is suppressed. The government "appointed" Warren Commission went to great lengths to coverup the truth.
There is the REALITY of what happened that day......and the "alternative reality" of lies we've been spoon fed.
If you knew that our government would lie and go to great lenghts to obfuscate the truth in the murder of our President....
wouldn't you naturally be suspicious of the official "government version" of other events, such as say 9/11??????
Rogue
Betababe.....no matter how "cute" and funny(sic) you think you are, I don't think they need any more hacks in the FOX or CNN newsroom. LOL! So stop the childish "posturing".
How about stirring up some activity in that lazy and rusty old brain of yours and comment on that EXCELLENT JFK assassination documentary I posted????????
Are you afraid of the facts?
Please....spare me any childish ,moronic "anti-conspiricy" nutjob stuff you've spewn so far today. If you can't....go put on one of your tinfoil hats for all of us that still can think and go sit in a corner.
Seriously,
Rogue
gigherb...Can you explain what you're talking about exactly??
Rogue
Gilead....When you get time please do watch the JFK assassination documentary on that link. Any others are urged to also watch it and post any comments on it.
http://www.government-propaganda.com/skull-n-bones.html
I think understanding what really happened on that day and why it happened and what it meant is "pivotal" to understanding where we are today as a nation.
It's not a pretty picture.
Rogue
SUWN.....shares are no doubt being distributed. The key is whether the buyers of all these new shares turn into sellers sooner rather than later?
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=SUWN,uu[h,a]daoayyay[dd][pb50!b200!f][vc60][iut!Uc20!Lh1...
There is a bearish technical divergence on the stochastics. A newer high in price and non-confirming stochastics. CMF is negative too. If we get a close below .19 cents I think the recent buyers turn sellers and get "motivated" and start unloadinging their recent purchases.
I'm personallly waiting on this for better prices.....
although I may be completely wrong!
Rogue
Gilead23,....I'm glad you're here!!!! No one else wants to play!
Now to the "Great Debate".....
Watch this EXCELLENT,EXCELLENT documentary on the JFK assassination......
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=8450691
Let me know if there are any untruths or "non-facts" in it!
You're on the "hotseat" now!
Let your "road to discovery" begin!
Rogue
CWPC/Oil sands.....Canwest Petroleum. I had a very large block of this with an average price of about .31 cents last year. I sold prematurely into the rally this year around $1.30 and have been trying to re-establish a position at lower levels than where it's currently trading. It's one of the most speculative of oilsands plays, but gets a big "play" because it's one of the few US exchange traded plays on the sands.
There has been some "suspect" of it's management that I know of.....but don't know enough on that to form a strong opinion as to whether it has any merit.
Petrobank Energy is my major oilsands play for now. PBEGF.pk or PBG.to.
I think all holders of Petrobank will do extremely well in 2006.
Rogue
otc...Bring it over to the VMC survey board where it belongs!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=4121
Nice try otc....but the fact is I cut and paste from experts with credibility and former high ranking government officials with credibility that support my conclusions.
I'll be the first to admit my conclusions aren't "mainstream"....but that doesn't mean that they're not true.
And..... I have more original thought's in one day than many have probably had in their lifetime.
Rogue
Gilead23.....You know there is the VMC Survey Board where you are welcome to take your "best shot" at the roguedolphin??
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=4121
Others have tried but usually just get frustrated and start calling me and others that agree with me "bad names".
Take it there and I'd be glad to discuss any matter with you in an intelligent, thoughtful manner. No name calling please though! That's low grade and childish.
Just the FACTS please....
Rogue
slow feet....take a hike! Where did you get that crap from?? I was irked about him being a "DEFENSE CONTRACTER" and making his fortune off of "BLOOD MONEY"!! I have a little bit of a problem with "merchants and profiteers of death and destruction".....not how he spends his money!
I'm all for freedom and liberty.....if you don't believe it go to the VMC survey board and read my posts.
Especiallly see the one post about the John F. Kennedy murder documentary and you'll know why I despise the "milatary industrial complex"!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=8450691
Rogue
Alberta poised for new oil rush, analyst says
Jacqueline Thorpe
Donald Coxe, global portfolio strategist for BMO Financial Group, says, "If you can own only one kind of oil stock ... it should be one that owns 60 or 90 years reserves."
The great Canadian oil rush may have faded this fall but one leading investment strategist thinks it could come screaming back by next summer.
Donald Coxe, global portfolio strategist for BMO Financial Group and chairman of Harris Investment Management Inc., says a new wave of international interest in the oilsands sector could get rolling after the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission makes a crucial decision on reserves next June.
That's when the SEC will rule whether Alberta's unconventional oilsands deposits can be included in company reserves for reporting purposes, part of a bigger review the SEC is doing on oil company reporting under the Sarbanes-Oxley Act
"Once the SEC has made its decision, the oilsands of Alberta will be the focal point for one of the largest-scale competitions for energy resources we have ever seen," Mr. Coxe told the Economic Club of Toronto yesterday. "Some of that is going to be a little controversial. Some of it's going to get ugly, but from an investor's standpoint ... if you can own only one kind of oil stock, it shouldn't be a royalty trust which has a reserve life index of seven or eight years ... it should be one that owns 60 or 90 years reserves."
Various international bodies have gradually begun recognizing some of Alberta's oilsands as proven deposits, including the International Monetary Fund and the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
But the SEC decision will be crucial for the major international oil companies to be able to boost their price-earnings ratios, Mr. Coxe said. The reserve life index of the 12 biggest oil companies has been falling for the past seven years, but they made more than US$100-billion in profit last year and have US$110-billion in cash.
With Venezuela and Russia looking increasing unattractive for political reasons, Alberta is going to be the main game in town.
"Canada is going to face a new kind of importance in the world because, you see, we've always been a small-scale producer," Mr. Coxe said.
Mr. Cox said he had little doubt Christopher Cox, the new head of the SEC, would rule in favour of recognizing oilsands because it will be in the United States' strategic interests to do so.
Mr. Coxe is steadfast in his view that the price of oil will resume its upward trend, thanks to the incredible economic growth of China and India.
"It's not a matter of when oil is going to touch US$100 a barrel -- though obviously it's going to do that some day -- it's to get people realizing this is not a spike, not like past developments like the Yom Kippur War or the invasion of Kuwait," Mr. Coxe said. "What we've done is transformed the demand side of the equation for oil permanently."
Other pearls from Mr. Coxe:
- "When, not if, the residents of the coastal cities of China, that's 165 million people, have the same percentage of automobiles as South Koreans have today, we'll need two new Saudi Arabias operating flat out."
- He quoted Chris Patten, chancellor of Oxford University, who recently said that for the past 2,000 years, more than half of global gross domestic product has come from China and India, with the exception of two centuries, the past two.
- The environmental movement has held back the building of new oil-refining capacity in the United States. He said the NIMBY movement -- Not In My Back Yard -- morphed into the BANANA movement -- Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere -- and now it's the NOPE movement -- Not On This Planet Either.
- Gold is going up -- and decoupling from the U.S. dollar -- simply because of demand from China and India. China has a savings rate of 40% and its stock markets are in the tank. Where else are you going to put your money?
- U.S. consumer debt is swelling by the minute, but it's usually bad business loans that cause financial crises. The entire U.S. consumer sector is unlikely to default on its loans at once.
*****Rogue comment.....buy Petrobank Energy, Pbgef.pk or Pbg.to It will probably be bought out next year sometime at a good premium to current price....if not it'll be a great "long term" investment in my opinion.
Rogue
Apocalyptic Video Game Features Global Government Takeover
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | November 30 2005
A new video game now available for X Box and PC depicts an apocalyptic vision of America after the year 2008 where terror attacks carried out by anti-government militias force the European Union to send in an occupying army.
See the video and more on this link....
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/301105videogame.htm
Rogue
yielddude...I know that. Nothing against you....it was so outrageous to me too. It sickened me really.
Rogue
That rich defense contractor that threw that vulgar and extravagent party for his daughter looks like a great stock trader.......
http://biz.yahoo.com/t/50/139.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=DHB&t=2y&l=on&z=m&q=b&c=
He unloaded millions of shares at the highs....I feel good for the idiots that bought his stock. I guess I have a problem with profiteering off the "blood" of innocent people.
Rogue
yieldude.....multimillion dollar defense contracter's party for his daughter???? Can you say "BLOOD MONEY"???
Don't even get me started! How f#ckin vulgar!
......see my posts in the VMC Survey board. http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=4121
Rogue