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Surely the targets are treasure, right? If......so
we should get confirmation by the end of the week that Tinkerbell 2.0 works, or not, don’t cha think?
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You are one hundred percent correct with your assessment. When you have a Tinkertoy see all, know all like they have that measures the target sub-bottom depth, dimensions of object and verifies same to be gold or silver, why would you be digging on anything else but the real deal. No reason not to hear overwhelming shouts of success at last. Suggest you don't hold your breath.
Quote: Today is the Day Buddy !!!!
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Wasn't that supposed to be yesterday?
'Today's the day' was the Mel Fisher slogan. It sure doesn't belong to this wanna be outfit.
Quote: When they find treasure,
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Assuredly the slogan for 2022.
Quote: Mel Fisher, a dreamer, a visionary, a legend and most importantly, the World's Greatest Treasure Hunter! Mel Fisher did what many have not - he realized his dream during his lifetime. Everyday he insisted, "Today's the Day"! His mantra continues to inspire the search for the rest of the treasure from the Nuestra Senora de Atocha and the Santa Margarita, the Spanish galleons that sank during a hurricane on September 6, 1622, near Key West, Florida.
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To insinuate or even compare Mel Fisher to these non-productive clowns is an insult to his memory.
Quote: CONGRATS Raider21; you are our Offical ‘at sea’ winner.
As the loser I have to hold onto my current SFRX shares.
And for the winner..... you get to purchase additional BWVI shares! May be the only purchase of the week & will be cheaper next week, but hey, who cares about those details.
Congratulations Raider21!
Any other ‘at sea’ winners out there?
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You seem to have me mislabeled. I'm not a 'hot air balloon' profiteer. Based upon my been there, done that experience, its very easy for me to discern who the don't learn, won't learn amateurs are. This clown town outfit most definitely appears to be one of them.
Quote: You win; As the loser I have to hold onto my current SFRX shares.
And for the winner..... you get to purchase additional BWVI shares! May be the only purchase of the week & will be cheaper next week, but hey, who cares about those
Congratulations hedge_fun!
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Besides 'hot air balloon' profits, it seems 'at sea performance' and success is secondary. As a performer achieving success in locating and salvaging Spanish Colonial period shipwreck treasure, SFRX is a flat out failure.
Quote: Maybe they found it and are getting their media partner on board to film the discovery.
Yeah, that must be it.
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No need To buy expensive circus tickets. All one need to do is monitor this on going clown show.
Quote: And they always listed all the best stuff in the manifest
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If you prefer the bedtime story version of things, that's your choice.
Quote: Mother Lode from the Concepcion is a nice start
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You must be aware that numerous times in the past I have posted the 1715 Concepcion manifest summary as was previously published in marine archaeologist Robert Westrick's Maritime's Quarterly.
In modern day market values, it would be generous to say the values would be more or less in the area of 15 to 25 million. Not 2 or 4 billion which is a gross unprovable misrepresentation. It seems as though everything happening here runs on bedtime fairytales.
Quote: Share what you have. Looking for a reason to buy before it goes to dollar land and they uplist to the NASDAQ.
Thanks
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You are joking, aren't you?
Quote: Can you cite any successful operation these......
clowns have had? Just name one.
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Sea conditions of 1 to 2 feet right on through Friday. Surely they must be out there Tinking, plinking, and dinking right on those Tinker Toy positioned piles of gold and silver bars, and chests of gold and silver coins. I mean, they did say this new super space age technology defines depth, size and precious metal content before they even dig. So what's the hold up? Laughable.
AMZ552-210200-
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm-
1014 AM EST Wed Jan 20 2021
SMALL CRAFT SHOULD EXERCISE CAUTION NEAR INLETS THIS MORNING
THIS AFTERNOON
Northwest winds 10 to 15 knots becoming north
5 to 10 knots in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a dominant
period 9 seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal waters.
TONIGHT
North winds 5 knots becoming northwest after midnight.
Seas 1 to 2 feet with a dominant period 9 seconds. Mostly smooth
on the intracoastal waters.
THURSDAY
Northwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming northeast in
the afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet with a dominant period 8 seconds.
A light chop on the intracoastal waters.
THURSDAY NIGHT
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming west
after midnight. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Mostly smooth on the
intracoastal waters.
FRIDAY
Southwest winds 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet. A light
chop on the intracoastal waters.
FRIDAY NIGHT
West winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
Slight chance of showers.
SATURDAY
Northwest winds 10 knots becoming north in the
afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Slight chance of showers.
SATURDAY NIGHT
Northeast winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 3 to
5 feet. Slight chance of showers.
SUNDAY
East winds 10 knots. Seas 4 to 6 feet. Slight chance of
showers.
Quote: Rumor has it that SFRX expects to dig up something of importance within a month or shorter.
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So why the 'in a month or shorter'???
The sea conditions are great. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
Seems like a never ending continuation of the amateur clown show.
AMZ552-192230-
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm-
316 AM EST Tue Jan 19 2021
TODAY
Northeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet with a
dominant period 9 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters.
TONIGHT
Northeast winds 5 knots becoming north after midnight.
Seas 1 to 2 feet with a dominant period 9 seconds. Smooth on the
intracoastal waters.
WEDNESDAY
North winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet with a
dominant period 9 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT
North winds 5 to 10 knots becoming northwest
after midnight. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Mostly smooth on the
intracoastal waters.
THURSDAY
Northwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming southwest in
the afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters.
THURSDAY NIGHT
Southwest winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 1 to
2 feet.
FRIDAY
Southwest winds 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
FRIDAY NIGHT
West winds 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
SATURDAY
Northwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming north in the
afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Slight chance of showers.
Well, look at this. Come Tuesday of next week the sea conditions are very good. Should be no problem digging down to one of those Tinker Toy huge gold or silver targets. Wonder what the next excuse is going to be?
AMZ552-171130-
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm-
255 PM EST Sat Jan 16 2021
SMALL CRAFT SHOULD EXERCISE CAUTION
TONIGHT
West winds 15 to 20 knots becoming northwest 10 to
15 knots in the late evening and overnight. Seas 3 to 4 feet with
a dominant period 4 seconds. Choppy on the intracoastal waters.
SUNDAY
West winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a
dominant period 9 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters.
SUNDAY NIGHT
West winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet with
a dominant period 3 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters.
MONDAY
Northwest winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 3 to 4 feet. A
moderate chop on the intracoastal waters.
MONDAY NIGHT
Northwest winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet.
Mostly smooth on the intracoastal waters.
TUESDAY
North winds 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. A light chop
on the intracoastal waters.
TUESDAY NIGHT
North winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 feet.
WEDNESDAY
North winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 feet.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT
East winds 5 to 10 knots becoming west after
midnight. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
THURSDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south 10 to
15 knots in the afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
Quote: These guys aren’t perfect, like some of us, but they damn sure aren’t liars, manipulators and everything else that has been clearly inferred and regularly reiterated.
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The explanation is really quite simple. Naive and inexperienced in the field of marine technology and zero experience in the application of remote sensing technologies in doing surveys to even find a colonial period shipwreck. Referring specifically to SFRX, in now over fifteen years they have never found a historic shipwreck, never worked a historic shipwreck and have never found treasure. Ok. So lets say even though persistent, that can happen. What is not acceptable is dogged ignorance in not acknowledging archival testimonial research facts along with ignorance in acknowledging and accepting the technological capabilities of proven remote sensing methodology that has found shipwrecks over and over again. Its like a student that just can't get past the with grade. He's not going to make it to 12th and graduate. This company apparently doesn't learn and move on accordingly. Definition - Amateurs.
Quote: I'm looking forward to Seafarer finally proving it's new tech works to the rest of the World. They seem to know it and once they can get out there and finish getting to their targets, everyone else will know what they know.
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Repetitious bull-crap.
Quote: Are we seriously interjecting BWVI on this board? A new low… I hope a slip up…
For some perspective:
Random point of entry; let’s call it Sept. 15, 2017:
BWVI sitting at .69 a share
SFRX .0019
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Wondering why you are addressing this to me?
Quote: The Blue Water Rose could blow a hole........
10 ft deep and 60 ft round in 30 mins in that depth of water. The dive team would swim down and pick up what’s there.
One afternoon is all it takes to “prove” anything.
Tinkerbell 2.0 hasn’t changed Jack Shiite.
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As I've stated before and state again, the expectation the sheeple have is so naive and ridiculous. What you say is all so very true. If the Tinker Toy does what they like to believe it does, one target would be readily defined (gold, silver, jewels) and one 'proofing' excavation (as you describe) would tell it all.
Quote: Previous equipment was incapable of finding what has been found now.
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Really? You have got to be kidding. For the folks who read this board, why don't you attempt to list what the Tinker Toy HAS FACTUALLY FOUND versus that which previous equipment was incapable of finding.
Like I said before, its a joke. While, you're at it did the Tinker find any of the 34 iron cannons that the 1715 'Concepcion' was carrying? You always seem to be very evasive about those good old 34 iron cannons. Oh, but the SFRX pros. are only interested in the gold and silver, right? So where's the gold and silver. Like I said its a joke. Sorry but having been on successful surveys that have found historic shipwrecks, experience turns one into a realist.
Quote: how accurate past surveys with old outdated equipment are,
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It seems obvious that you really know little, if anything about marine survey procedures for locating historic shipwrecks. It is not 'old outdated equipment' as you say. Cesium magnetometry still remains the 'state-of-the-art technology that has found DOZENS OF SHIPWRECKS (including renowned treasure galleons) and continues finding shipwrecks. On the other hand, the SFRX Tinker Toy has yet to find (provable) a actual Spanish Colonial period shipwreck, it has found no treasure, and frankly, I see no evidence that it has found anything other than going over a already known flotsam debris field. What a joke.
Quote: In my opinion SFRX's equipment is going to
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Always the 'going to be', 'want to be', 'just you wait and see' - unending.
I find it interesting how the existence of 34 iron cannons on or in the approximate area of this supposed 1715 'Concepcion' shipwreck is just conveniently 'swept under the carpet'. More than easy to detect with a properly conducted marine magnetometer survey. Also, I find it interesting how the actual research states that the 'Concepcion' hit a shoal and broke apart. There are no outer reefs or shoals where SFRX is playing their treasure hunter games. Flotsam yes, without dispute. An actual shipwreck site, tons of treasure and artifacts - obviously no. But screwing around with this see all, know all Tinker Toy is going to somehow magically produce a wreck that isn't there. Just my opinion of course, but remember, I've been there, done that on surveys with real pro's. so I have a little bit of that good old insight.
Quote: Game changing is correct. In a way some may find hard to comprehend.
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Game changing you say? First you have to actually be in the game. This bunch of amateurs never have been.
Quote: If Tinkerbell 2.0 told them what they found was there, then why no announcement?
Testing is over, right? Didn't testing prove it worked?
Ain't much left of the can that keeps getting kicked down the road.
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Same story from these clowns never ending; 'And the farmer hauled another load away'.
Quote: You mean 'proving'?
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No, I want exactly what I wrote - 'proofing'. Among professionals that's what target excavations are called.
Sea conditions are just fine for 'proofing' operations. So what will the next excuse be?
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AMZ552-112215-
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm-
1014 AM EST Mon Jan 11 2021
THIS AFTERNOON
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet
with a dominant period 10 seconds. A light chop on the
intracoastal waters.
TONIGHT
South winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a
dominant period 10 seconds. Mostly smooth on the intracoastal
waters.
TUESDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming northwest in
the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a dominant period 9 seconds.
A light chop on the intracoastal waters.
TUESDAY NIGHT
North winds 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Mostly
smooth on the intracoastal waters.
WEDNESDAY
North winds 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. A light chop
on the intracoastal waters. Slight chance of showers in the
afternoon.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT
Northwest winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to
3 feet. Chance of showers.
THURSDAY
Northwest winds 10 to 15 knots diminishing to 5 to
10 knots in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Slight chance of
showers.
THURSDAY NIGHT
West winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet.
FRIDAY
Southwest winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
Quote: But if it worked, wouldn’t it also tell them nothing was there, if in fact nothing was there?
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Repetitious barnyard horse shit. It goes on and on, excuse after excuse. Oh indeed there's wreckage flotsam but no shipwreck and no treasure. The Tinkerbell see all, know all. apparently isn't up to expectations. A pile of treasure should be a slam-dunk issue but it never island I doubt t ever will be.
Its just so odd how 34 iron cannons just disappeared. The on going clown town joke.
Quote: Seafarer Exploration
12m ·
We are back to being able to work in Area 2 after the short pause, however, the bottom 2 to 3 feet is pitch black, so we are testing new equipment to dig in darkness. As always, updates will come as soon as we have them to make.
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Is this some kind of a joke. Professionally trained divers have no problem working in zero visibility. Thats all part of it. Besides, hand-held detectors give you guidance as you're excavating. So, that said, what the H. is this excuse all about? I thought the see all, know all Tinker Bell was suppose to pre-establish burial depth of target, size, metallic type/content, etc., etc. What a bunch of crap.
Quote: I love the fact that every insider is a major shareholder, why would they throw their money away for nothing?
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Simple. Its called treasure hunting. Men of intellect and fortune have been victim of this game.
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Everything is going great.
Agree.
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As a non-treasure finding 'hot air balloon' stock I'd be inclined to agree too.
Quote: Imma be a rich clown!
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Well, good for you.
'Hot air balloon' profits - perhaps.
From expectations of treasure to be found by these clowns - I seriously doubt it.
Quote: What more absurd is the notion they......
won’t sell the “alleged” BILLION$ in treasure, but will instead make revenues from a media deal, which if this fairy tale came true would be worth million$.
That’s pure genius right there.
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Even if they were professionally competent, they can't find what isn't there. Beyond that, perhaps with the exception of you and I, none of them seem to realize that even if the state were to grant them a salvage permit (very unlikely), that comes with no indemnification clause meaning no protection when Spain comes swooping in to legally take anything they recover. A clown show line up.
Quote: Is it Melbourne, the "alleged" $4B site, or Juno the "alleged" $15B site that they won't sell treasure from?
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As I have commented before, these portrayed values are absolutely ridiculous and unsubstantiated. Its gross misrepresentation - sucker bait.
Quote: Let’s use this as an example:
1) “chooses to believe PR fairytales” - this led me to believe that Kyle was releasing Press Release so fabricated that they are fairytales.
2) ‘Tinker Bell’ is a failure which is in direct contradiction to what Kyle has stated. Led me to believe that he wasn’t telling the truth?
3) Con Man- a man who cheats or tricks someone by gaining their trust and persuading them to believe something that is not true.
Again; I apologize, for accusing of something so fabricated, it could happen in a fairy tale.
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So those are your interpretations and drawn conclusions. So what.
Quote: And to be fair it is also my OPINION that SeaSearcher works and the PR's are factual.
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Well good for you. You expressed your OPINION.
No different than million of kids not wanting to accept the fact there is no Santa Claus.
Quote: Constantly chirping about tinkerbell and on and on and on.... how the con-man KK won’t ever discover a wreck or anything that your peeps could have missed..... all smoke n mirrors.... ponzi scheme employed on his own family.....
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I would appreciate it if you would refrain from accusing me if things I've never said. Although I have no respect for the mans unprofessionalism, I never labeled him as a 'con-man' nor did I ever make any references to his family. As I'm entitled to my opinion, I do view the Tinker Bell toy as a failure for multiple reasons but I'm not going to belabor the issue any further. If one so chooses to believe in PR fairytales, they have every right to do so.
Quote: SFRX/Tulco was issued a Recovery Permit per a......
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Thank you for the clarification. I stand corrected to that extent.
Quote: Now that is what I call real FLOTSAM!!
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Do you understand what FLOTSAM is?
Please list the SALVAGE/RECOVERY permits the State of Florida has issued in the last 20 years.
SFRX has never been issued a recovery permit and I doubt they ever will be. To prove that point they'd have to find a shipwreck first. Here again, I doubt they ever will.
Quote: So from an anonymous post, that is not cited, one is able to interpret and articulate to the board the intent of FBAR.
Now that is what I call real FLOTSAM!!
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Let the SALVAGE permits the state has issued in the last 20 years.
Quote:I didn’t have to ‘hear’ what I wanted.... I ‘read’ it...
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That's not a recovery (salvage) permit.
Quote: Kyle will get the permit. We heard this before many times....
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Human nature dictates - people hear what they prefer to hear. Good luck anyway.
Quote: First of all, any sediment in question.......
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I see what's happening here all too well. The bottom line is that the State of Florida really has no intent to issue a salvage contract to anyone. Even if SFRX had anything to salvage.
This same tactic has applied in the past with the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary (FKNMS). One group with a granted exploratory contract came up with significant results during a magnetometer survey. They were allowed to do some limited proofing digs in one of the sand fields producing 18th Century shipwreck evidence but just as soon as they wanted to continue proofing in the surrounding turtle grass fields, they were immediately halted with some sort of ridiculous excuses of how these grass beds were the breeding grounds of the speckled shrimp or something similar. Bottom line was using these kind of environmental excuses to prohibit salvage. Sound familiar?