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Hold on there iblong.
I don't defend any scumbags. I look for the facts and the perps. When I find out who's who I state it and start doin what I doin what I do. Now calm down and post what the CEOs told ya about NIR. In my situation I do care what NIR is today and what happens tomorrow at the company level. When ya have a handle on those you can make a bundle. I'm buyin shares cheap today in my company of interest, with little or no downside. I like that.
ibl. In your first post it sounded like it was all NIR bs that is killin shareholders. That's why I posted like I did. Wanted more info from a person bein affected, you. Now it seems like it's more the company at fault. Or maybe not. The company I'm interested in also is funded by NIR. I've been in touch with the old CEO and the new one on a regular basis for several years. Neither really seemed ta have a major beef against NIR. They did about a past NIR employee and an NIR broker. Present management removed the past guys because they were the real problem. The latest I've heard is that they are workin on some deal with NIR and the dudes that caused problems is gone. From both the company and NIR. They seem ok with the way things are goin now. Do you talk with the CEO's at the companies? If so ask the needed questions. There's a list of things on this rag that are worth askin about. What's the short position been in the past? There's a lot more I could suggest but wanna hear some feedback first.
I have no problem with your post. It's on topic with me. Why would I say Scott who? That's friggin dumb. Some dude postin as "mange" made some stupid ass threats against me. I agree with ya that he's the ex CEO who made agreements with NIR. I had many emails with the dude and he was the one who said your personal email was flaflyersfan. I got a copy and got rid of it. I'm not interested in postin anyones personal contact info. I don't play that way dude. Now ya want me ta stop postin about you? Get real. Ya followed me over here so ya could yap like an old girlfriend. You're just a pain in the ass that likes ta stalk. I post that I was asked ta back off on my posts and I get a dozen posts back from you sayin it's bs and askin for proof. I don't give a rats ass if ya believe it or not. That's what happened and I'm sure others besides me wonder why. Ya act like NIR doesn't read this rag. Are ya friggin lame dude. They read what is bein written about em and they also don't like most a my posts. They know the company I'm interested in and those guys are workin on a deal. I don't have the details but the company also thinks I should back off. I go back to the mid 90's with the technology they're developin and I know a lot about what's goin on at the company and the past. A whole lot. The CEO I talk to now brought in that technology and got rid of a bunch a bad apples in their company, includin the ahole who made the threats and gave me your email. So they had ta make changes ta clean up their company or die. The NIR relationship was there when they came inta the pic. Now I'm told they're workin with NIR on some move forward plans that are good for both sides. They also say things have changed a lot at NIR. If that's so NIR should not be worried about me. I'm sittin in the shareholder seat and want that technology developed. It has huge potential and I don't like anyone who works against my best interests. That includes you, NIR and the company. Your move now.
ibl
Now you're talkin my language. I wanted ta know if the dudes runnin the companies were clean or not. Seems they're not so again it's just the shareholders who take it in the rear. If ya got more on the company/NIR relationship post it. If what I'm hearin about NIR tryin ta clean up is right I'm sure we'll see more senarios like the two companies ya posted about. When I looked up the two and found communications and Texas oil and gas that was enough for me. Ya can bet there's a lot to the story that insiders can bring to light. Invite em here and let's see what the relationship was all about. Most are a prearranged sinkin of the ship. Money goes inta certain pockets, shares are converted and traded and after it's all done the company goes bye bye. Most post back ta you was ta see if ya had details and would provide the info on who was the bad guys. It aint always NIR but it coulda been. Question is who the bad individuals are. Like I've posted several times, I've been told NIR got rid a some bad apples and at least from some point of views have cleaned up a bit.
Chance for what dude?
I don't have your email address you idiot. I was told it started with flaflyersfan. The same identity ya use ta post. If ya wanna send me your full email address to my mailbox I'll be happy ta write ya. If ya ask me ta keep it private I will. So send it and we can talk all ya want bonefish.
My stalker is workin overtime.
Boy's pretty friggin concerned about my posts. You'd think he has territory ta protect. Yaps about proof like a friggin psychotic poodle but doesn't want ta talk about his claim that some CEO was makin threads of physical harm ta Ribotsky. Dudes an idiot.
What the hell are ya talkin about now?
What last CEO threatened Ribotsky? Who said I was an intermediary? I ask questions and post opinion based on facts I receive and confirm. Carry on bonefish. I'd love ta hear your threats story. The real story is you followed me to this board cause ya were concerned about my post topics. Ya didn't come hear ta attack or defend NIR. Ya came cause ya needed ta try ta discredit me. I've posted on why I'm here many times. Why don't ya tell everyone why you're here and follow up with some more on your latest claim of physical threats. Ya either read it somewhere, made it up or got it from Ribotsky. Did ya just call up and you two had a little chat about CEOs that have made threats? I don't think so bonefish but I'm sure you can clear me up by providin some facts. The dude that says every post I write is bs should wanna explain his own friggin nutty post.
He went offshore.
The dude came outta nowhere we ya posted about the offshore stuff. Why would some dude sign up for Ihub just ta respond ta your offshore crack down article? They can't help themsekves when they feel they're losing control of topic direction. You know how it works stoxx.
Doesdd
Everone has their spin and objectives. When they talk enough ya start ta see both pretty friggin clear. If I were lookin ta establish a point that was important to me in this case I'd do things quite different. My route would be through an existin NIR funded company and a sht load of depositions. Either would not be hard to put in place if the right people were involved. Next would come the articles on the events unfoldin. A tried and true process that simply involves askin the right questions and makin the answers available. I doubt anyone other than the companies involved in suits with NIR are very interested in that route. Most just wanna do business without others workin against their best interests. I think NIR understands that and has taken steps I've mentioned to be more user friendly. I'm watchin NIR but I'm not hear poundin the table for their demise. I'm the front guy for investors that don't like others workin aginst them. Just like any other shareholder. The company I'm interested in is workin with NIR on several matters and seem ta be pretty happy with the results. They've told me they're workin with all new people at NIR and it's a hell of a lot better than the past. I'm for the public company but I also know NIR has ta make money. I've had several discussions on how that can happen for both sides. All of the companies in court with NIR are there because they felt they were being played. Shorted. I watch the short positions very close. I've seen indications that it's not happenin now. At least not from NIR or associates. That's a good thing. If they play it strait up I'm ok with em. If they get real smart I'd even suggest an investment in them. Can ya imagine that?
Have my postin friends taken a day off?
That's probably a good thing for those that care about what I write or better yet might write. I'll be available if they need me though. For those of you who actually want to hear truth and facts I hope the nonsense was an eye opener. You all have probably read the lead in to this rag. It points out a lot about NIR and what those who started this rag are lookin for. If your interested read it again. The interestin thing is that when you start to enter some of those question areas ya get a bunch a posters that want none of it discussed. No one with any sense that has claims against NIR or anyone else is gonna try their case on Ihub. They'd like ya to but it don't work that way. what does work is the tossin out of information and askin questions. It builds a contact base and info is exchanged. Some of us post to get reactions and info contacts as well as keepin up interest. You can see what happens by lookin at the last few days of posts. Friggin panic time. Prior to that ya have about a post a week at best. You can bet there are those that want it to stay that way. Let's see if they still wanna talk. If they wanna talk about specific companies or people I'm fine with that. The posts with blank spaces for each are a laugh. I'd love ta see the names. We'll have another discussion.
Don't rest yet bonefish.
Check me out and see if I'm tellin it straight. I'd like ta hear what ya find out. I'm bettin it the same ol with ya dude. Make sure ya stop short of findin somethin that will make ya look like an idiot. I'm a little concerned with the way ya follow me around. Is it a fetish?
What the hell are ya askin dude?
What company? I suspect that any company that borrowed from NIR used it for operations. If they didn't they're playin the issue paper game with NIR and I doubt either would want that news out. Does that happen? You bet it does. Every company is different. Do you dd or ask about a specific company. If ya have a hundered companies you'll get a hundred different answers. I'm all for NIR workin with those that are real and playin it straight up. Got no problem with them makin money for their investors. If I was out ta take down NIR it wouldn't be done on Ihub. I'm routin for em ta win in a game that has new rules. There's a big opportunity for a hedge fund that gets it right. Figure it out or you're a goner.
No he didn't call me bonefish
He asked a company CEO that I talk to a lot to ask me to back off. They had a talk about my posts on Ihub. I was told they were tryin ta work out some details of their relationship and my post didn't help. I guess he thought I checked in before I posted. Not so but I do respect the guy that asked. He passed on that he felt some positive changes were in progress at NIR. I confirmed what he told me with others and backed off a bit. Now NIR can call you and ask you ta shut up or not. It works both ways. Check me out bonefish. See if I'm postin the truth. NIR knows I am.
Are you shttin me dude?
Just say Google Norma. It's way easier and has been there for us all ta read for a long long time. what the hells your point. Norma was a con? Ratings firm fraud. Ribotsky thought it looked like fun? Weird friggin post dude. I don't own a damn company that deals or dealt with NIR. Didn't get caught up in Norma but have read all ya posted on Norma mant times. Hasn't everyone? It was the epicenter of the sub prime free fall. NIR was a pawn in the pass the risk game. I don't have a problem with their NORMA deal at all. I think I'd be a bit more verbose when I describe the venture if I were Ribotsky though. I am interested in your claim that hedge funds have been regulated ta death. Ya ask the question "what's a convertable debt buyer ta do" and then ask some weird questions that I think I answered about two posts ago. Then ya follow with a NORMA cut and paste lesson. Do ya really want me ta answer the question or did ya answer yourself? Why don't you tell me what they're not ta do. That may lead us inta some areas of interest. Believe it or not I'm actually lookin for the intelligence ya claim is here. I'll acknowledge it when it raises it's ugly head.
Ya.
At the proper time I expect it will come out. Probably not in a chat room. These things affect more than just NIR. If dudes like winkin woog wanna kick sleepin dogs they'll get snapped at real quick. Look back and see where this started. I don't give a rat's ass if BW whatever understands it or not. I don't point fingers at those that don't deserve it and more. The company I was initially interested in is actually tryin ta work with NIR. I doubt they wanna fk with NIR nor NIR with them. I don't even have a clear pic on Ribotsky's role in some matters. He's cut ties with some I do know about. I give him credit for that but he knows where the buck stops. The company also had some real bad apples so it aint just one sided. I agreed ta back off until they took care of their respective issues. I told em it was fine with me until the ahole bashers get jiggy and start their nonsense. They did and here we go. Now woog comes outta the closet. Well it's the same deal for him. If ya wanna chat, we can get with it. The rest of ya now know a bit more about him and me. There's a hell of a lot more.
They funded a company a group I'm involved with bought stock in. Their bashers played too many games and pssed me off. One decided ta point out this rag about NIR. Dude was usin NIR as a means ta scare potential investors. No big deal, there's about five posters that even care. I know his game well and decided ta come over and talk a bit. That moron JJ is one a the bashers. I don't like lenders that work against the companies they fund. That's the short story but I've done a sht load a dd and talked with lots a folks at several companies ta compare notes. That's enough for ya ta wrap your head around for now.
Sure it's interestin stoxx.
Why would woog be in such a friggin bunch about my NIR posts? Dudes way too concerned about some facts. Let's see if he wants ta talk or just hope I go away. He doesn't seem ta have much ta say other than his attempts ta remove posts and tell me about his Ihub friends. I can't tell ya how impressed I am. Dudes tellin his own story and doesn't friggin get it. Tilt. I told all here that I was in idle mode with NIR. It was just a matter of time before one a their posters started yappin and got me interested again. Some real dumb mofos. Woog tells me NIR should be real happy about numb nuts JJ postin. Fine. Let's make em happy if that's what they want. Lead the way woog. I'll be here ta respond if ya wanna talk it out buddy.
Not clear woog
The names I posted are relevant. Very relevant. Ya wanna tell me how you think they're not. Ya seem a little bound up over em. Stress gettin to ya? Daryl Dworkin worked at NIR. Second in command behind Ribotsky. Envision Capital is a broker that brings customers NIR's way. Ya want more? I'll post more. Clear? Ya can see Dworkin hostin a drink with Ribotski in the picture on this rag dude. If ya wanna pretend these dudes don't exist and have no connection ta NIR tell me why and then call your friends at Ihub for a whoosh. The whoosh speaks a lot louder than my words. I think ya lost track of the subject matter here dude. Or is it gettin too close ta home?
What dire predictions did I make woog?
Now I'm under some type of stress? Are ya friggin nuts dude? Why don't ya give us an update on the We ya talk about? Ya seem ta think ya know who's who and what's what. Ya state ya won't get fooled again? Nice post woog. I post and you go friggin off. What's with that buddy? Does my lose of my thought train bring out new areas ta consider? It appears so. It's not me that aint thinkin.
Nowhere
They ask dumb questions and then regroup. Can't shut up even when they know they should. These aren't new folks that just dropped in ta see what's up. You know that. Could get fun around here. Does NIR read this? They're obsessed with it. I'm one that knows. Ya did hit a nerve stoxx. Made that knee jerk pretty friggin fast dude.
Time will tell
It aint about bein smart. It's about bein perceptive. I know plenty that memorize anythin ya give em but lack the ability ta find direction. Also many that operate just the opposite. The few that have both abilities are rare. A bunch will tell ya they have that ability but are friggin clueless. Time will tell. I have a long history in that realm.
Count the buzz words.
Friggin classic. Here's the real deal in simple language. All hedge funds are hurtin big time. NIR aint exempt no matter what happy face they put on for interviews. But. If Ribotsky is smart and takes a view 180 of his fellow managers he can come out smellin like a taco. I don't like roses. Can't eat or drink the mofos.