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Did you miss this part of an earlier post?
I have been actively trying to expose penny stock scams for about ten years and SI and Ihub have been allowing me to do it.
They have also allowed Janice Shell, Jim Bishop and others to do it as long as we didn't violate the TOU.
So what the hell are you people whining about?
The fact that you were so closed minded as to not to listen to the people that were warning you about trading penny stocks?
You people need to get a life and learn to think for yourselves and not expect others to do it for you.
Phil
You're probably right.
I would have gotten the boot too.
LOL
Phil
Read a lot of the posts on the most active boards on Ihub.
Most of it is presented as fact and most of it is BS.
Phil
I am not a lawyer, but what was Jonathan Lebed charged with?
The following is from memory and might not be 100% factual:
He was spending time at night while he was in school researching thinly traded penny stocks, frontloading them, then pumping them on the internet before he left for school.
Before he left for school, he would enter GTC sell orders for the stocks he frontloaded.
He paid off his parent's home and bought them both new vehicles.
In any case, the SEC charged him because of his activities.
You cannot frontload stocks and dump them while you are pumping them.
Not legally anyway.
Phil
Agent,
This board has somehow evolved into a board about internet stock deception and I can easily understand how that happened.
What I don't understand is how all of you people didn't know it was happening and are choosing now to whine about it.
It is still happening as we trade posts.
Almost all penny stocks are scams and are still trading actively.
That will continue to happen until the authorities having jurisdiction shuts them down.
All Ihub is doing is provide a place to discuss them, both positively and negatively.
I have been actively trying to expose penny stock scams for about ten years and SI and Ihub have been allowing me to do it.
They have also allowed Janice Shell, Jim Bishop and others to do it as long as we didn't violate the TOU.
So what the hell are you people whining about?
The fact that you were so closed minded as to not to listen to the people that were warning you about trading penny stocks?
You people need to get a life and learn to think for yourselves and not expect others to do it for you.
Phil
The argument is that the owner of the grocery store knowingly put dirt in bags labeled hamburger and sold them to everybody who would buy them knowing they were being deceived.
You didn't think it was up to you to look in the bag.
Phil
TOU violations have nothing whatsoever to do with the truthfulness of the post.
So WTF are you talking about?
I'm not getting it.
Phil
It is said IH has 30,000 posts a day and the few Admins can not possibly handle. I say it is the businesses responsibility to do an adequate job and should staff as necessary.
There is no possible way that Ihub admin could determine the truthfulness of every post, every day, even if they had ten thousand assistants.
Why are you here if you don't want to determine the truthfulness or value of the posts for yourself?
Would you like for me to go with you to the grocery store and help you decide what food to buy too?
Phil
Please list the posts that you knew at the time were false and misleading so I can review them and I might change my opinion.
IMO, on all of the penny stock, stock specific boards on Ihub, false and misleading information is posted on a minute by minute basis.
Phil
You are ASSuming that he manipulated the posts on Ihub to further and assist his stock trades and profits.
Do you have any proof that he did?
I seriously doubt you do.
Phil
IMO the only difference in Ihub and the phone company is that Ihub tries to filter the posts and remove offensive posts that violate the TOU before you read them.
The content of the posts do not matter, as far as investor sentiment is concerned.
What matters is whether or not the posts violate the stated and listed TOU.
Phil
I think you are FOS,
but that's just my opinion.
Phil
The difference here is that the Phone Company does NOT engage in any decision making or enforcement of the rules of usage – IHub does daily and so does Matt. IHub takes an active role and is culpable for the results and acts. IMO
IMO you might have a case if you could prove that Matt or any other employee of ADVFN unfairly manipulated posts to allow only positive posts and not negative posts.
I don't believe that to be the case.
Phil
The illegal part is frontloading and then pumping while dumping.
Phil
The thing I hate most about this whole episode is that on most stock specific boards on Ihub they are filled with front loading pumper clowns and are doing the exact same thing that the SEC 8 are charged with doing.
Check it out if you don't believe me.
There are a lot of board mods and assistants that only post on that board and board participants that only post on that board.
Give me a friggin' break.
What is their motivation for that?
They are front loading pumper clowns.
The only difference between them and the SEC 8 is that they haven't been charged yet.
All IMO,
Phil
It might help stop the whining about deleted posts, but I promise it would cause as much or more whining about what should be deleted and what shouldn't.
Phil
Bast my post is you want to I am secure whom I am and I know to whom I belong.
It's a long story as to why I have been up all night, and to make a long story short I would love to get my hands around the neck of one of my "friends".
What's your excuse?
LOL
Phil
Admin, the mods and the mod squad spend umpteen and countless hours a day deleting off topic and personal attack posts that add absolutely zero value to the boards.
Would you prefer a button that allows you to spend countless hours reviewing the worthless deleted posts?
Maybe that would stop the almost endless whining they hear about deleted posts.
Phil
Jesus, Pete,
It's a friggin' message board.
Ultimately you have to put a value on the posts you read.
Did you really think that someone else would do that for you?
Shaking my head,
Phil
I don't see anything wrong with the SEC investigating penny stock pumper clowns here either.
Where did you get the idea that I did?
Phil
My head is hurting...
I need a new case of duct tape after the posts I have been reading lately.
These are all pulic posts.
So many abused posters, and so little time to deal with them.
Where was it that I left my cattle prod and whip?
Phil
All negative posters on the SPNG board have had their posting privileges severly limited.
Then they haven't read the Handbook and learned how to post negative posts without personal attacks yet.
Phil
With all due respect, if you have been limited to five posts per day on a board, there is a reason for it.
Use your five allotted posts wisely.
And,
Have fun,
Phil
I agree 100%
I don't know what the number should be, but if a mod is constantly having posts restored that should never have been deleted in the first place, she/he should be removed as a mod and be blacklisted as being a future mod.
Same with the mod squad.
Phil
Ihub is not an arm of law enforcement of jurisdiction and never will be.
Get used to it.
Phil
FWIW I agree that when a post gets restored it needs to be somehow brought back to the top of the board list.
Not sure how the geeks could do it, but the poster could repost it if they know it's been restored.
Phil
I don't know exactly what Matt did yet, but you can go on any stock specific board on Ihub and find active posters that only post on that board.
IMO those posters are front loading pumper clowns that are there to pump and dump, but it's not up to me to point fingers.
Phil
I say buy all you can! I am hear for the long!!
You were gone?
Didn't notice.
Phil
WEll i am hoping it runs. I lost my job. My car is on its last leg. I have a woman i want to marry. i have less than 3k in the bank now. I have no child support thank god. But im broke as a joke. I owe money. So this would be my lucky day if this thing go's...
Dear lord. I will feed any needy family that needs food if you grant me this one stock. AMEN
yes its legal as long as they didn't tell any share holders about it that would be insider trading if they did tell a share holder and they bought before the news that's why there not talking right now they will come out with a press release when there done buying.
there is alot of news we are waiting for but your idea could work too and that was march financials that the cash postition was only 3k hopefully they report more then that on junes statement.
I cant wait for that buyback news too that's a game changer and is everyone still doing the GTC orders that's how we can force the baby up faster if there are no shares to buy at there ask they will have to raise the ask.
very true catch them when there working on it I know on there website they said it will take 7 months to complete if they want to be up and running by jan 2010 they better of started in jul 2009 because if they start Aug 2009 they wont be done in till feb 2010 and if we get news of a buy back on monday we will hit .0003 and up very fast.
who knows when they started they probably already started we probably wont find out till there done that way there is no pressure to rush the project from shareholders.
who knows what note holder dumped but yesterday was no dump that was the company buying off the market that's why none of the buys and sells showed up and only the volume changes showed up and that was lagging way behind also the Accumulation/Distribution went way down it went from 18 billion to 7 billion that's the wrong direction if it was a dump so it must be a buy back.
Either way, the upset is much greater for me than the down side.
its getting harder and harder to tell who's a real share holder and who a basher trying to act like a share holder because everyone and there moma is bashing this stock why who knows maybe its worth me then we are thinking it is.