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AS ALWAYS, no clue as to what is going on and when or if we get payout on the uwbi cusips....................................
I put it out there that the FDIC does ZAP shutdowns by sending out monies and shutting down the case.....always closes this way.............
We might get the ZAP payout, TODAY, a low-ball and no taxable consequence.......MIGHT........doubtful, now................
IF NO ZAP PAYOUT IN THE NEXT TWO DAYS.............then we fall into the wait for the RECEIVER to terminate TRAP, which means the recovery process has to be completed and this could take years......3, or even 4 years.........(hello!!!!!)......or finish STERLING/libor in a few months, then close and pay.........
My mental position remains that we are earning nice interest on the holdco holdings and therefore, not be stressed about this nasty POS.........who cares, really..??...in the end, we all will get sick and die.....................
......geez, dockie, you are tempting me with this beer yap..........and I've really faded away from beer, of late.......for a number of reasons........bladder problems, etc........although I did go thru phases in my life where I inhaled beer.........gotta steer off the beer cravings with wine.....(hard liquor gets axed, day 1).......and then insert ice cream for wine.....(seriously, buns, alchies do this ..it works better than AA, imo.....another problem in life, I'm long past).............
......on that Denver cusip problem, poo bear.................I still think the FDIC is gonna ZAP us with money...............at any moment.....????........MAYBE NOT, sweetpie....................but watch..................WIN WIN............$8.30 per today or..................$12 per, in late 2024..................I want the most and will wait.......but I've been in bed with the FDIC late in a nasty bank mess)..................
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...I'm with ya on the flavored beer, sweetcakes.......any and all, for some reason, with beer.......????............and the Bud Light trannie problem is getting worse, even though BUD LIGHT is the official and primary sponsor of the NFL....???....which is launching this weekend with a MONSTER-sized marketing BLAST.....????.......we assume, that one Colin Rand Kaepernick, brand didn't do well..........bet those NFL-types are voting for donnie..................
......and honey buns................a POP into our UWBI brokerage accounts................HOW F/--ing COOL WOULD THAT BE......?????.......I would literally sit in AWE for a long time...........spellbound and relieved..............not caring about the amount........seriously...............the end of this disaster............PLEASE HURRY, lovey-poo.....
.....you keep quoting the FDIC, ms. buzzkill savage......liars and thieves.........trust me, sugar, whatever happens, in the end, with the FDIC...............WILL SURPRISE.......100% guaranteed, be it up or down or sideways...................
......I really think you and Fred wanna drag this nightmare out and bloat up the interest accrual on the holdco holdings...........then score a HUGE WIN on LIBOR/sterling....................say, mayhaps, late 2024, creampuff dear......????......................hansel & gretal, 12-pack of Bud Light, per.........buns....????.....
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....DO NOT BE SURPRISED BY ANY OUTCOME.......................
......FDIC's standard operating procedure on CLOSE-OUTS is to send out the money and shut down the case, in a matter of minutes........this is what could be happening to us..........could be..................leak, imo, is about $8.30 per+/-..................coming to a theater near you................???????.........
....MY HOPE - HOPE HOLDING is that the payout is tagged, something like "liquidation and cancellation" which would leave the TAXABILITY open to interpretation.........payout might have no tax consequence................?????..............nice, if it happens................
......but the money touches us, and this nightmare is over........and the payout might even be TEN BUCKs per..........aimho..................
............being two mouse clicks away from $15mm, and knowing that UBS is a cornered rat, writhing in pain..........................while earning $1,250 per DAY.............gonna ride this tingle for a while..........................also, banker frankenstein still has a black cloud hovering above his FLAT HEAD........(and although SVB was another FDIC golden gift to frankie - - frankie's gonna get EXPOSED for banking nepotism with the FDIC - - and remember that dirty little Denver THRIFT scandal frankie was involved with.....???..................YEP, frankie's got dirty hands..................hello).............................
....FRANKIE AND UBS are SQUIRMING.................and very, very much want that pesty, nasty UWBI cusip vermin...........EXTERMINATED............heck, one of those uwbi trolls even suggested that MR. HOLDING BE ARRESTED AND CONVICTED AND SENT TO THE BUTNER PRISON FOR 10 YEARS.........???........
....as stated on numerous occasions, Mr. GETRIDOFME, I would prefer to ride this train deep into YEAR 2024............while earning handsome interest on my holdco holdings balance......................deferring the tax burden................AND SHAKING DOWN UBS FOR A COUPLE OF BILLIES.......................
.....playing to WIN, Mr. GETRIDOFME, and not going limp, and begging for a PANIC WELFARE payout...................BIG MONEY takes time, Mr. GETRIDOFME......
....matter of fact, Mr. GETRIDOFME, I'm inclined to REFUSE the $8.30 per remittance, SEND IT BACK, and file suit for a more respectable payout...............
.....BUT THANKS FOR THE OFFER, Mr. Getridofme..........................
NO, I don't believe the cusips are cancelled and the $8.30 per payouts are being processed..............preposterous, imo................
however, all of the metrics are met with this proposition and the rumor sources have cred...........????...............
fdic and frank holding, and others want the UWB/uwbi cases...............CLOSED, terminated, killed off, cancelled, obliterated, dry-humped and buried, DEEEEEP......
I believe we have GARGNATUAN upside with the UBS clawback, and ultimate payout from the receiver.......whatever.......WIN WIN................aimho.....
OUT OF ORDER.............GO AWAY................................................................................................
since uwbi cusips are CANCELLED, any mention of ella ann holding, drew sandler, hurricane harvey sender, jeff lippa, or mortacai quicksilver scott I...........would be considered OFF TOPIC.......................
wire of $8.30 per being processed...............?????...............
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.....kinda wonder why GOD had to give you Judeo-Christian pagans TWO...........TWO...........commandments (of the 10) to stay away from the hot asian neighbor.............???....................
.....Jean-Paul Sartre said...........................
......"Life begins on the other side of despair"...............
.....Dude: no worries on technical and legal logistics..................Guy signs an authorization affidavit (which I'm sure he's already done, years ago)..........basically states that he has the power/authority to make decisions on behalf of shareholders................2. there is a payout or distribution ORDER, Guy signs....$$$$ on the wire from the paying agent (Broadridge??? to the brokerage houses, with a DTCC stamp??)............this is serious because it is the final decision on the stock/cusips/securities...................we understand the sale agreement for the matrix funding corp. to frankie had a cancellation clause...................cusips are DEAD upon distribution of consideration proceeds???...................
..........gibberish poop........SHOW US THE F/---ing MONEY.......................all we care about...................do it soon...........tyia..........aimho......tingle..........tootle.......
.....1. the FDIC reportedly said $10 per, in 2023..................????...........
......2. Bloomberg News, in a report on another UBS settlement in Aug/23, said there are other suits, 1-2, left to settle and it is estimated to cost "$400mm"......???.......US, imo...
.......so the LIBOR/UBS problem is almost over..................UBS will settle, with us, in the end...............100% certain...........more time = BIGGER $$$ AMT., imo......
......WILL end............aimho.............[
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ONLY HOPE FOR $$$$ in 2023, or CLOSURE in 2023, however, would be the decisions on the LIBOR cross appeals, like in Sept/early Oct..............then a settlement agreement on the basic LIBOR suit against UBS................possible, but not likely, imo....................too many possibilities that would stretch out the nightmare.............
EVEN IF BOTH SIDES WANT TO SETTLE, asap................complications to ending LIBOR/sterling.......and then we have to ASSUME the FDIC wants to shut down the UWB Receiver, which it might not want to do...........?????.............and ASSUME the FDIC wants to shut down the Receiver, and does, but comes up with little or no monies for shareholders............??????...............NO URGENCY BY ANYONE, but us, and we don't count in this disaster.....never did and never will....
.............so, ASSUME the worst, which is we sail deep into 2024 with barely a whimper on anything....................?????.............earning interest, we ASSUME..........
......I KNOW, I KNOW..........the pain hereon is excruciating................but at least we are alive and we have POTENTIAL to cash in, BIG......won't, but we could........
....Mr. SWAMI: I believe the FDIC paid out BANK creditors......while the BK TRUSTEE paid off HOLDCO/uwbi creditors...............
....dunno why we don't get paid out, before the RECEIVER terminates, except that maybe we want to wait for the FDIC to get more recoveries that will go to us......that is my belief....................
.....also, the judge over-seeing our LIBOR/sterling cases, set an approval hearing date for the Deutsche Bank settlement agreement at 11/24/23 with a wink and nod...........to me, this means the appeals court decisions are expected and the judge threw a date way out - - to make sure the cross appeals are decisioned.......so there are many folks trying to END THE LIBOR nightmare.................which ends our nightmare, hopefully soon with big bucks......................
.....in reality, we have UBS by the balls, for hundreds of millions, in total and we net about 12.9%, after legal fees and the plaintiffs' splits........plus the $3.75 per we already have in recoveries to date, plus the $5 per, we have on deposit from the holdco sale residuals.......$8.75 per going in to the LIBOR portion - - ??)........
.............no hurries and no worries..............slight worries, but we ain't got any alternative but to wait.........with OPTIMISM.........(and getting 5.36% accruing interest on the holdco holdings)........
....HOLDING (ahem!!!!!) this stock..........cream puff love........???.........YOU ARE A WILD ANIMAL................!!!!!!!!!.............
....just gotta bring home dat ten fitty per......................????..............
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there were supposedly some serious and powerful legal undercurrents that we somehow got involved with (what's new??)................
involved donnie, and marty and deutsche bank and frankie.............????........and then, US???...........and continues to this day....???.......
which makes for closure, but these situations are very complicated and take time and involve the courts..........how we got tangled up with LIBOR and UBS is totally, totally freakie..............but, again what's new...............
the only good point in all of this, is...........we are in bed with folks who throw around $billions...........play games............but, in the end...........pay.......so, maybe we'll be rewarded for 10 years of torture..............I don't expect much and gotta see it, to believe it..................
I like being two mouse clicks away from $15mm+.............but we are also two mouse clicks away from being CANCELLED, if we are not already.........aimho......
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....I feel your urgency, LAR LAR, but this nightmare ain't gonna be over for many months, imo...............only consolation is, as I have alluded to, that we somehow cash in on the LIBOR/sterling settlement with UBS................very, very possible, but this involves the federal courts and legal shenanigans and appeals and legal nonsense, ad infinitum...........
...BUT, lar lar........UBS earnings came out today and this is a HUGE, sophisticated entity..............bought Credit Suisse...........and has a complicated relationship with the FDIC (don't we all???)......................UBS could drop $5-billies on a settlement with us...............easily $2-billies...............and even the $250mm settlement, pre-packaged rumor would be nice and CLOSE US OUT...............
....adjust your MENTALITY, lar lar love..................MORE TIME AND PAIN = more money.............so bring on time and pain, lar lar......no problem..............
.......and also, lar lar.....IF WE CLOSE OUT IN SEPTEMBER...........no mo FREDDIE SCOTT and no mo BANJO BARD.............(there is a god, lar lar)......
We should draw conclusions, applying the RULES OF EVIDENCE, lar lar..............sure, we are free to dream and prognosticate about what could or should happen in the end to the dutiful UWBI common stockholders..................because we DO NOT KNOW IF THERE WILL BE ANY FINAL PAYOUT, and if so, how much........
Adding to the mystery, uncertainty and frustration, lar lar love, is the fact that we were treated unlawfully and the FDIC is in full control of whatever happens..........and then add in Frankie's wonderful outcome, etc..........PAIN and AGONY, lar lar dear.......................
I've put a ton of time and money into this ugly mess...........I have evidence that the holdco was sold, for its NOLs............really should be an economic benefit that flows back to the common stockholders...........and then the failed bank RECEIVER made a statement to us that common stockholders are acknowledged creditors and could receive (ahem!!) any residual recoveries.......................???............
HOW------------mother----------F/-------ing----------EVER, lar lar love..................the FDIC could legally subtract the 'subrogated liabilities' from all monies accumulated by the cusip holders.............and our 2 informed moles said shareholders will never be paid anything and the cusips are being cancelled...........FACTS............
Believe whatever, lar lar dear..............FDIC has totally slammed stockholders before.............and also paid out, quite nicely (rare but these AHs have piled cash high when inclined to)...................lot of legal under-currents, lar lar............probably will end in a whimper with an odd low-ball..........aimho...........
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UBS........????........dat be yo lottery ticket, fellow sock puppets.......
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.....your theories and speculations are TOO COMPLICATED, getridofme............far fetched.........frankie's own mother bailing him out, Guy getting paid under the table, cashing in on LIBOR......???...........too weird, getridofme...............THIS WHOLE F/---ing SITUATION IS CRAZY, getridofme..........(I ain't exactly Honest Joe Americana).........
....and the logic matrix, getridofme, as painful as it sounds....the FDIC drags out nasty situations, ad infinitum and then CANCELS 'EM OUT........classic and I've been there before............
............and 2 independent sources, with cred, said, forget about the cusips........unrealistic....AVOIDING REALITY...........(I'm not saying delusional, that word is exclusive to those WaMu socio-paths - - WTF, getridofme????)..................
................NO EVIDENCE IS NOT EVIDENCE...........correlation is not causation..............and the FDIC is in control of our situation, which includes any payout from anywhere................dat be yo conclusion, getridofme.................
Wonder how the Holding family fared, after Frank, Jr. conspired to unlawfully seize that little THRIFT in Denver...??....heard he came out in flying colors and is now a BILLIONAIRE.......................and getting richer every day.....................GO FRANKIE..................
As for the United Western Bank common stockholders....nasty....BK, then official wipe-out...cancelled..
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......LAST YEAR, I had Dollar General (DG) clearly on my cross-hairs......(trying to build/buy the DG x-press stores at a 12% cap rate)...............$200 per would be a steal.............current price...................$130.65 -27.01 (-17.13%)...........................
.....would have L/M/A.....................turn $1.8mm into $900K-............in less than a year...........same situation with BIG LOTS.............huge, huge loss, in one year................
....point being............thank you, FDIC for wiping us out..............silver lining.............
....................................gotta look on the bright side of DISASTERS.................less evil..........
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......FDIC worked its magic on WaMu, as well, LAR LAR..........secretive corrupt manipulations...........teamed with KKR.........UGLY, UGLY................
.....unfortunately, two SLAMS, lar lar.......................fascism at its finest............nasty dudes.....................
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.....it is the UWB RECEIVER..............and I believe, dependent upon the LIBOR/sterling case, which is waiting decisions on two-cross appeals...........a chain of events, LAR LAR................the appeals could come at any moment, and there is political pressure to decision those, which both should be up-held..........then the enitre LIBOR/sterling case is open to be presented, in full..........................could be a 2-year trial, or more with appeals by UBS......................
.....so timing, wise, after the cross appeals, assuming no weirdness (probably will be)..............we could settle on STERLING.......and the RECEIVER would close even by YE, 2023, or even sooner..............?????...................
.................but accelerate the closing of the RECEIVER, or drag it out 3 years, LAR LAR..........the point is, uwbi cusip rats are no longer in existence.....that's the problem with all of this.....................
.........we don't exist, LAR LAR..................this board shouldn't even be on....................we should be over on WaMu where the big money payouts are.....???
.......quite possible, LAR LAR, which is scary.........definitely no side-saddle agreements of any kind..........some super smart and legally savvy operatives have concocted all of what happened to the uwbi cusips/matrix funding corp..........and within the FDIC's veil, even more bizarre.......and the entire FCNCA involvement....???.......
.....gotta close out the uwb Receiver, which will give more clarity to our situation, and might be the final nail in the coffin..............there is a pile of money, stashed, on our behalf.............100% certainty, but we don't control the FDIC.........the FDIC controls us......and could rightfully confiscate everything, and that is my take on the recent statements made by very informed observers..................uwbi cusips are cancelled which means.............BLANK SPACE..............
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....might wanna peak at the BK TRUSTEE's FINAL REPORT, lar lar, for factual clues as to what happened to those uwbi cusips...........
.....Advances made to Matrix Funding Corp.........$2.74mm.........???..........over $300K to kimmie, for her to give away 1/2 of the ITR, and then lose it all and end cost the FDIC billions down the road (over $1B, currently on SVB).............
.....point being, lar lar love, it is crystal clear where we stand with this POS.........................
......much love, lar lar.............all is well that ends well..........(and I hope you didn't wake the baby...............or no sex and your turn for the dirty diaper).......
......lar lar love, the BARD post is pathetic flail and filled with BLATANT errors, falsehoods and misstatements of FACT.......
.....BK is closed, for one......THRIFT was closed in 2010, not 2009, as stated........FDIC appointed a RECEIVER, not a TRUSTEE.......the OTS closed the THRIFT, not the FDIC.........I don't know where you got this TRIPE, Mr. LAR LAR, but please do not bring any more deranged WaMu insanity over to my blog........
....not one statement in your BARD proclamation is true, nor accurate....................not sure how to describe your NAIVETE, lar lar............ ????......
for the record, Mr. Green, I stand by every statement that I have ever made public, regarding UWB/UWBI............
....DIRECT PATH of a Cat. 4 HURRICANE...........uwbi cusips cancelled..........pile of other problems...........yawn,,,,,,,,,,,,,yawn.................EXPLOSIVE FART.................go away..................find some other lackey DORK to leach off of............WE'RE CLOSED.............WENT BROKE....................
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.....GREAT IRONY........cusips cancelled = this board should be removed, as requested on numerous occasions..................
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two moles got CRED
not so flim flam FRED
it's tomorrow and the uwbi cusips are cancelled
go beg on wamu if you want free money
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....sounds good to me.............bring on the $16 per..............and should be paid with WaMu martian money.............
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.....THIS SITUATION SHOULD NOT BE SO DARK AND SHROUDED IN SECRECY..............................
.......seriously, remove my salacious blatant LIES out of this stock................we have absolutely nothing.......
....a good sleuth could go back to the BK and get confirmation that the priority claimants were satisfied........that's $52.5-million and there is a record of the JPM claim of $14mm, being removed???.......................ROCK SOLID on the BK claimants.........shareholders, if there were any (ahem!!) did have a 510b statement entered into record...........but that is simply a vague SUBORDINATION.........says nothing, except that IF....IF.......priority claimants are fully satisfied, residuals would be afforded to shareholders...........????..............everything else on this was either scrambled, or simply not put on record.....???.....which is UNLAWFUL, imo......
.....WE KNOW NOTHING................sure, I tracked and verified FCNCA using the tax asset.............and I found that frankie's mother transferred 300K shares to us........frankie personally transferred 42,000 shares to us (JPM)........and then the pledge agreement.......etc.....etc...........
..............DARK, MYSTERIOUS STOCKS...........ALWAYS.........ALWAYS..........ALWAYS.......END UGLY.............I have 5-6 stock plays that turned into weird, weird disasters.......a couple of which have continued for 20 years and continue to this day......split, reverse split, sold to a shell in the Bahamas which bought an abandoned hotel, then traded that for an investment company that had tons of land in the Caribbean........and continues today......another was an oil additive company.....still trades...........and a women's clothing line............never, ever stops with the BS and nonsense........and is held on the DTCC....???......ad infinitum......and complete wipeouts..........
..............NOT LOOKING GOOD TODAY, gents...........just saying...........a statement of those cusips terminating, with no payout, WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME........
...................AIMHO..........
I truly believe LIBOR/sterling is pre-settled, regardless of how the cross-appeals come out (there could be a kick-out, but then why have a pre-decision agreement???)................and I think the settlement, already done, or to-be-done................will have much lower dollars than the Deutsche Bank estimate of $2-billies....................
why would the FDIC want to crucify UBS (and maybe the other 15 banks).....????..........slaughter them in front of a Baltimore jury, for billions over a $40mm, inner-city school bond issue...........????...........to get even with UBS for all that it did with LIBOR...???.....and it wasn't $40mm, it was only the interest rate INDEX, that was manipulated.....c'mon,,,,WTF........billions have been paid out........and the LIBOR/sterling suit hangs over UBS.............BLACK CLOUD..........
...whatever...........maybe we'll be glad we got lucky with LIBOR..........or not...........it is simply HOLDING (ahem!!!!) UP the closing of the UWB Receiver..........
..........good problems..............WIN WIN............................no worries, no hurries...............tingle............tootle...................
........NO FISHING......NO BEGGING.........KEEP OUT.........GO AWAY.................TRUMP 2024................
....the FDIC is in CONTROL of our entire situation..............100% GURANTEE................................
....tough to read 'em and they will comment, but only if the Inquirer-or 1st goes through the Federal Reserve............and then the FDIC's p/r rats just blurb out the standard, bureaucrat nothing burger....................which = nothing................a couple of the FDIC internal operatives do speak off the record, but they claim they have already commented on all of UWB/UWBI and are basically waiting on the Receiver to continue closing out the failed bank (never even a mention of LIBOR/sterling - - although they acknowledge LIBOR when they realize I know more about it all than they do, or care to)............................
.....the rumors floated about the FDIC......usually come to fruition.......always ON POINT, by-the-book hardball, on their terms.......no discussions, no details, no apologies......nada.......$$$$s are wired out.......the end.........ZAP.......freddie scott is VAPORIZED (T/G)......
.......ONLY POSSIBLE SHOCK, to me, IN ALL OF THIS......................super, super LOW-BALL.............as well as a HUGE, HUGE PAYOUT that would only be taxable as a LTCG......(FDIC tags their portion as that "value-added" IRS term and form)........................
..............SHOCKER would be, like $6.50 per, total, or something weird in that area........which probably will happen........we really only have the $138MM in holdco proceeds..................$4.75 per, maybe....................not counting interest accruals....???...........and then the FDIC AMOUNT is a complete unknown......these boys could cook the books, or, imo, will suck the "subrogated liabilities" ($150mm) out of the total recoveries................very, very possible......leaves us with $1.75 per........
....whatever, too much pain with this POS.............UPSIDE is always possible, but never, ever happens.............DREAM ON, friends.............
.....but we ain't DEAD.....................and we all die, someday.................aimho...............
DUDE: our only read on the LIBOR/sterling case is the Deutsche Bank settlement agreement.................DB rats out UBS, imo.........but says our suit is potentially the ONLY Libor-related suit wherein a local jury could award damages............on all of LIBOR...........?????..........
...now, certainly, DB is kissing the rear end of the FDIC, for $5mm, which, to DB is a couple of pennies in the ashtray of a rusty Mazda......???.........
....UBS is smart with super deep pockets and there are probably hidden agendas (as always with the FDIC).......the FDIC might detest UBS.......????......might also like 'em......................
....we also have the Bloomberg news reporter giving a summary of the 2nd last UBS/LIBOR settlement and stating, on record, that UBS is almost completely finished with LIBOR, except for other cases???.........which, she said, could call for another $400mm......?????.........very, very eery that she would specify a dollar amount..........????...........whatever........TOTAL BS, and F/- all of LIBOR............WE JUST WANT THE UWBI DISTRIBUTION..........aimho........
...............LIBOR/sterling cross appeals decisions...............awaiting................probably more complications after those decisions..............2+ YEARS of nonsense......????...........gotta throw out incentives to settle............neither side wants to...................
.......painful, but we have no alternative except to wait............even if we could sell our uwbi cusips, it would be foolish to do so after waiting this long.......AND THE FINAL PAYOUT MIGHT BE QUITE LARGE...............probably won't be, but anything in the $10 per range is acceptable.....................
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......FDIC always has hidden agendas............levers against UBS.............for example..................and the FDIC is never, ever in a hurry............FDIC might be getting pressure from frankie and DC................but we are still dependent upon a complicated, HUGE money court case................
....we are simply bystanders...................and the FDIC could combine the receiver payout with the holdco monies, which legally, now, ARE ONE PAYMENT ENTITY, imo.................they have to be, imo..............let the IRS disagree..................
....and we are earning healthy interest, which Powell said today will increase in Sept..........????.............and we are saving ourselves FROM POTENTIALLY LOSING MONEY ON BAD INVESTMENTS..........WIN WIN, by delaying, bobo...............take forever, not a problem..................
....only guarantee in life.............re: FDIC UN------------mother----------f/----ing------------predictable...........and when they do close out a receiver.......ZAP.........done and gone.............
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....with this POS, I predict there will be some SURPRISES before we get any money...............appeals court hands down something weird.............or we even proceed to trial and get it started, with UBS not peeping about a settlement and stating it wants to fight the suit........?????..............
....more drama for another year...............PROBABLY...............or nothing much happening, appeal closure or not.............................
....I kinda predict another year of torture and then in later 2024, totally unexpected, the Receiver terminates and monies flow, with no detail on anything, to us.......
..................ANOTHER YEAR OF WEIRDNESS...............and then ZAP, somewhat low-ball, but the end..................$9 -- $10, per......almost 100% certainty on that...
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