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another 2.3 million up for cheap
4,700,000
Just so you can make an informed decision with your own investments... the latest round of 500k blocks is me. No insider, just a guy who had accumulated way too much of this stock and it seems to be going know where. I even bought the suite on their "campaign" only to find out it will be "shipped" when the campaign is over. No fuel cell, no product, and I am going to use my money elsewhere. Very unhappy about the losses. This is a company with a good idea and horrible management. I have 3.2 million shares to go.... Maybe I will keep some just for an "outside" chance. But they did it to me.... they lost my interest. Sorry it has affected yours...
Sounds like a great idea, don't look at this stock for 10 months. Don't post anything or look at it. Sounds like a REALLY great idea for you!!
Funny stuff... soooooo true!
Yes, when Hargrove came on that was one of his best decisions. I spoke with him and he saw a better opportunity to come out with something unique instead of competing with a huge, already in place, success story. I am sure Amadeus will be brought back and changed/tweaked to offer improved solutions/needs. Any fool that thinks there is some magic market cap of 3 billion on Titan when ISRG is 17B+ in a growing market of robotics should be investing in more weed stocks. That way he can make money investing on what he is smoking!!
I am also in the front lines. Single port is becoming VERY popular in all aspects. Many surgeons are doing single port hysters. The Davinci is and was overkill. THAT is why they are developing their own single port. THAT is where robotics is going. The future. AND who is to say that once the SPORT grabs hold, that TItan won't throw out there own multiport to compete. There is NO REASON to say this is a niche company. Good for you to sell your titan at 5 or 20... you will make money. But with your attitude and opinions, I will wager that I will make WAY more than you. Yes, I am on the front lines.
I AM TOTALLY WITH YOU!!!
Not a dumb question at all! But it is timing. And everybody has their own idea of when it is true crunch time. I have had a base amount of Titan for 4 years now, but my high and low have fluctuated largely, >50%. I have just sold off other things I tried to use my money for. In the end... I should have bought everything last year at this time and held But I have accumulated to my max this past week. I will not sell again. For others maybe that was last month. For some maybe it will be this November. All I know, it is crunch time for me with Titan, and with others it will be as well soon. No selling...barring some disaster news. The PPS will go up, because I am not selling until we are bought out or the PPS is greater than 30. I think that is within 1.5-2 years easy. If I am wrong and there is a long span of no growth, of course I may change my mind. Titan LONG
No disrespect to Canada, but most U.S. investors don't give much weight to the TSX. Nor do investors in Europe. This will explode when on the Nasdaq... The volume of interest will far out way the MMs.
This is no ISRG "NOW". 5 by next summer??? 20 max??? Why make such claims??? Do you work for ISRG and are you part of the MM??? Titan has WAY more potential than 5/20. Ridiculous!!
And the more people that know (which is coming soon), the more will buy and hold instead of the individuals and computers that micromanage their penny gains. To get in... you will have to pay, because not enough people will sell at such low prices. There will be a steeeeeep uptick when this gets to Nasdaq IMO.
Just a thought... If we average up 2% every day for a full year of trading that would net every dollar invested approx 230! Although I am surprised always that the news doesn't bring bigger jumps, I am happy to see green. We have had too many days of red. If we stay in the green 80% of the days with the average movement of 2% a trading day, we will be above $40 PS in a year. We have, I HOPE, nothing but good news coming for a year! Lots of green days ahead. GO Titan!
Somebody with a connection to ISRG I would suspect
I just can't help but wonder if there is a quite war already by ISRG. Keeping this price low with as much manipulation as possible. When they drive it down (only pennies to them), you have us real longs selling a little and reinvesting, and then buying back in after some time out.... BUT, I think now we are tooooo close. True longs will not sell. We don't want to miss that tightly wound pop that will happen. The day this gets up listed, watch out!
This surgical board to me is VERY impressive. Titan has done a great deal of thought to put these surgeons together. When the sales team goes out and says they have systems in place at UCLA, Columbia, Mayo Clinic, Oregon Health, Canada, France, India with review articles to boot, that speaks major TRUST. How this news doesn't make the PPS move solidly only makes me think there is still a major lack of investor exposure and possible manipulation.
On a side note, one of the busy surgery centers where I live just bought a DaVinci system. I was VERY surpised they didn't wait for at least the single port. The good though, is.... THIS IS HAPPENING! And Titan will WIN the surgery center business. It is wide open still! ISRG is currently a $17+Billion company. Titan will be in the Billions soon. That is a minimal of 5 X the current PPS. The surgical robotic market, we all know, will expand in the coming years. Titan will have a major part of it. Hold LOOOONG and STRONG. They more we hold here, the sooner we get there. I am frustrated but getting pretty excited! It is almost October.
Shenkin stopped selling?? Good or bad?
I agree with you. It is difficult to place a final evaluation without having the product. Now... do we have a product?? Or are we reserving it?? I have invested enough here to spend the extra $ on an order. I ordered the Suite and realize the fuel cell (which I am mostly excited about and makes it totally unique!) will not be ready until December. I personally think that is ridiculous, but so be it. I either sell now and lose my investment or I try to fully evaluate the process...
I hope the MGT of NEAH has a moral conscience to the people that have made their company float. Enough with the delays. Enough with the BS. Please send me the product and do it swiftly. Help the kids in Africa... I will soon see for a FACT without speculation whether this company is worth a penny, let alone the 2 pennies I have cost averaged per share. I hope it is. Just like a desperate man wants to believe his wife is a good person while she F___ks the neighbor. I hope there is goodness. But in my hands is where I will fully believe. Without that, I have to assume the worse and will pull the plug KNOWING I did the right thing.
To be continued......
I am happy that we can actually order one! That means it can be reviewed and if liked and works well, the big retail will follow. REI is a perfect example and just down the street in Seattle. Most people do not know the delays, they will now learn about Neah and invest or not invest. That is exciting!
8 billion would be approx 40 times current MC value and would therfore put the PPS at 80+/-. Yes possible. Look at ISRG history. There is a point in the PPS history that within a short 36 months the stock went from 3.75 (March 2003) to 88 (March 2006). People know this and that history will only help Titan provided all goes well in FDA/initial sales.
For MA a 10-50% of real future potential can happen and has. Hallucinating??? No, just spelling out potential. That does not mean I think 8 billion will happen, but I am saying it can. I think 2-4 is very possible within FDA approval and good Europe review. DBSAD
A couple of things to add from this week.
1. The base design of the new patent does look similar to ISRG's above swing arm si. Talking to a very excited surgeon (excited about the single port from ISRG) in a room today, he said the single port and the range of operating past 180 degrees is a "game changer" that will convince more surgeons to robot up. BUT, with the design on the latest Titan patent, it appears that the swing arm may actually be capable of 360 degrees of rotation and arc as well!! This would be a HUGE advantage over the ISRG single port that is on a device that will still need to be moved and adjusted if a surgeon is to operate in a vastly different angle. Many Oncology and Colorectal surgeons need that and are limited by the base model Davinci. And will continue to be limited with the si.
2. I spoke with a Rep from Covidean/Medtronic. They are interested in the future of robotics. "No doubt." Her opinion was that they would want a product of their own as apposed to buying and she wouldn't be surprised if one is in the works. No info of course on them developing one (although it could be happening with ultra secret R&D). I find it interesting that people from Covidean are now closely learning about Titan... Possible MA???
3. If there were a MA from a company like Medtronic, a PPS of over 30 is a drop in the bucket. We are at a MC of 220 million now. A buy out of 2-4 Billion is pocket change compared to ISRG and current drug MAs. 3 Billion BO puts us at about 30. Intermune just got bought out for over 8 billion for a drug that will no where near bring that much revenue. Atleast 5 years of revenue at best!! So... IMHO, Titan is ripe for a buy out. It is cheap. BUT we can negotiate!! We are a fully funded company with patents and a proven tech. I think 5-10 Billion is possible after Europe sales start and FDA approval. This is going to be an exciting year!!
I know this has been discussed before. But I will add consistency tonight. Today, I talked extensively to an intuitive rep. at my hospital. I came across with the view of an interested party to both ISRG and to robotics futures and then led the conversation to "other" robotic companies... wondering if ISRG would be interested in buying any of these other companies or if ISRG was worried.
His comments were describing the new si and the single port being really cool, but admitted that a lot of hospitals are not jumping to replace the current model Davinci. Cost being the main factor. They are offering the single port in the future as an add on or stand alone with the base at a reduced rate of yet to be determined, but around 800K less than a full unit. He showed me pics of the single port and described the articulating arms and the camera that is also articulating. Very cool. The third arm is lockable with a foot switch that will turn it to a stable arm and can be switched back with a foot maneuver to reposition. Also very cool. My take.... it is a nice unit. Costly, but nice.
When I mentioned other robotic/takeovers.... he brought up Titan. First. By name. And mentioned a couple of "other" companies around the world are trying to develop the market. I asked his opinion of Titan and what ISRG thought. He said, they think of it as plus and negative. The plus.... It totally validates the future of robotics. This is good with there always being an article that wants to question the validity of the technology. The negative... it can take business. So the hope is that it adds overall business and their bottom line stays the same or grows. I asked about investing in ISRG with concerns that it is so volatile. He said yeah... but we are ALL invested in Titan. " All the reps", "If it were to become even only 10% as successful as us, it puts the stock at $30+." "McDonalds/Burger KING"
I thanked him for his time and wished him good luck. My take is that the technologies are slightly different but both very cool. ISRG is significantly more expensive. Personally, I know ISRG has turned off many people, but they have massive support. Competition is good and it drives success, and creates progress in technologies as a result. SPORT IS THE competition. SPORT will succeed. SPORT will not be the last TITAN comes up with, as the si will not be ISRG's last. Growth will happen, but TItan will have the % % % % GAME WON by a long shot. I look so forward to the next few years!!!!
In North Carolina there is big tobacco. Hemp will be in place there with the decorticator and will be primed to be bought out by big tobacco... They are not just going to sit by the sidelines and watch other companies invade their space. They will have a piece of the pie and at that time (who knows when that will be???) HEMP will fly again. IMHO
REALITY is, that new products ALWAYS have 0% of the market. HELLO???!!! DUHHHH?!?!!? We are all speculating on growth of a NEW product. It is like saying you can't fly your plane because it is new and has no hours on it. What a POS that plane must be.... No hours!! Wow.
Obviously.... NOT! Looks like a little red with more green. Maybe like Christmas to the longs that were good!
It is a big assumption that they are not interested in any mnkd stock. No where is it said that more dealings will be made. So in the world of logic, you have made a poor argument.
I see one thing in common with the Pumpers/dumpers... The "pumpers" (which I am not: I just believe in this product as a physician) come with facts and admit speculation in large. The dumpers just bad talk, assume and refer to it as a POS without FACTS to back it up.
I certainly do not know you or your intentions, but I hope for success for MNKD. And I hope we all make money.
Amen
I agree totally... There are 3 price targets in my opinion.
1. educated current price market condition/sales
2. Future (emotional/speculative) predicted growth market condition
3. Reality current conditions based on money/emotion/fact
MNKD is in #3 in my opinion. People want quick money for any reason. But this is always short term. The reality of success will become more clairvoyant with time and as product comes to the table.
I think we are looking at 14-20 within 6-8months. Depending on sales, and in my opinion, we can be at 20-30 in 12-18 months.
http://sierraworldequityreview.blogspot.com/2014/08/mannkind-mnkd-upgrade-strong-buy-short.html
http://money.cnn.com/quote/forecast/forecast.html?symb=MNKD
http://www.4-traders.com/MANNKIND-CORPORATION-10052/consensus/
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/ao?s=MNKD+Analyst+Opinion
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/mnkd/analyst-research
Very nice response. I remain perplexed though, why mnkd is getting so much criticism... I know I am just another Dr who deals with diabetes daily (sarcasm intended), and an informed investor, but this has the potential for really changing people's lives. For changing the way people live with this disease. It is NOT just for convenience. It is for better and tighter control which will be helpful in preventing end stage side effects of diabetes that people struggle with and our economy ends up paying for!! But maybe that is our world.... NOT to do the good or right things, but to battle over money and control of markets that are in place. Better to short and bad mouth the up and comer because of fear it might actually work? It is truly ridiculous.
Lol! I wish this market could work this way!!
I am sitting on a lot of shares and I am not sure why I keep holding. Something inside me just says be patient.... I know if I sell NOW, the product will come, be wonderfully reviewed, a contract with India will ensue and Ford and Mercedes will buy the tech for the fuel cell. The PPS will go to 0.2 and I will be pissed beyond belief.
So to the rest of you out there, I apologize. It is my fault this is not going up. Not management. Not the failure to produce or meet timelines.... I am keeping my shares and I don't know why...
The lowest PPS target is 10. Up to 16 as target in the next year. As soon as the shorts cover and this is done being massively manipulated, we will see green. Great product, great partner, bad disease that keeps growing world wide... I bought more today from 7.25-7.49. Increased my total shares by 50%!!!! Unhappy with the current reality, but glad I could purchase more at a bargain price. I HOPE today was bottom...
This is obviously a davinci supporter in sheeps clothes.
1. The patents are NOT worthless. And no patent prevents others from getting in the game. They just have to do it slightly differently.
2. How do they know the product is superior if they have never tried both.
3. The three arms vs two has been discussed here many times... I work with davinci all the time and the third arm is rarely utilized, and if it is, it is to hold a retractor device. A surgeon only has two hands. The SPORT, has a 3rd port for a retractor or suction device.
4. The price point is a BIG deal. Many places do not want a huge/small system. They may just want a small one. The profits are based on money of sell over production.... that is something I don't think we know. How much profit is there in an expensive davinci sale. And what will be the profit in a SPORT sale. Also what will be the ongoing profit per case comparitively...
5. Other companies WILL want to get in to the market in the future. No doubt. It is the future. We are at the very beginning of the robotic future. Therefore, TITAN is prime to be bought.. if and when.
I am not concerned a bit about these statements. Except that we will see many more causing fear and doubt. There will be shorters from ISRG trying to keep TITAN down. But as a physician and investor, I hope this board maintains a sense of intelligent diligence in separating the real vs the BS concerns and commentary. And I hope Titan does a good job in investor relations to both keep the wolves at bay and do it in a legal SEC respected way so the company can keep on time line and put out a very worth while product that will only add to the diversity and needs of the surgical community.
I agree, diversity in thought is good... And name calling is unproductive. I just hope for your sake that you are not so excited about the other company you mentioned, The___ase, that you are convincing yourself to hate Titan to justify your change in investment for the other. Like somebody cheating on another... mentality. Frankly that doesn't matter to me of course. I own both, but know some info about the other that makes it not nearly as attractive as it may on the surface. Unless tech changes, I learned that the price of the laser needed to perform the task is just WAY to expensive to mass produce. The idea has been out there a long time. And the cost has always been prohibitive... speculation could tell another story, but my guess based on REALITY of it being a player in the health market might be just a ploy to garner attention to their new laser that is replacing the other and attract some people to their company. It is a long shot IMO. But short gains are possible and that is why I am in it. I think it is nothing compared to Titan. This is my opinion and info to pass to you if indeed that is the scenario. Wish you luck in whatever your goals are. My main bet is with Titan. Fricken' excited!!!
Yep. Finger on the pulse there too.
With the amount of shares that he owns, he could be just looking at a new boat he doesn't want to wait for! 300K is a good salary, but it is not enough to buy the sailboat I am looking at!! If I knew this company was hitting it big with sincere confidence and I had THAT many shares, I would sell off a few and start enjoying the success now too! Good for him. And I agree about selling now before bad or no news... The SEC is eating small companies up and halting trades on many a upstarts because of unethical behavior... He wouldn't risk it. So my guess, it means GREAT news.
Hoping for a good week, so we can take the earnings (or at least some of them!) and buy some more of the other stock we have in common while it is down! GL!
Some people like to make their money in the stock market like a prostitute in a cheap hotel room... "You are the best... ohhhh... nothing and nobody like you...." Yeah, right. Just want the money and will say or do anything to get it.
Ironically, it should be like a war... Where a fighter pilot drops some laser guided ammunition on a target based on solid information. Hoping the info is correct, but doing his job with honor and integrity.
Wishing everyone who is long success on Monday and after!
All of this worry and concern over some guy leaving... another selling shares... IT IS ALL VERY TRIVIAL. Titan goes up and down. People have very different ways they want to invest or make a buck. Some people are forced to sell when they don't want to because of completely different needs. Who knows what the WHYS are. But really... Is the company financially sound? YES. Is the company hitting timelines? YES. Is the company transparent? YES. Are they filing all they need to with the SEC? YES. Is the technology amazing and does it work like it needs to work? YES YES YES. After tissue trials on a live animal were VERY successful, I became relaxed about Titan. They will get this to market.... Close to the timeline I presume. And when it does get there, I am going to be heavily invested and not miss out. Every up or down right now does not necessarily mean anything... In 12-18 months we will know what UP really means. I am buying more today...