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EDIT; Coach T, what's anybody's experience with other BK reorg plans? Do they spell out plans for share classes etc? Hope the end of Q1 target date is met. TIA
Don't know either. JD has told me and I think several others that the insider (he and GH) were restricted common. Guess time will tell. Thanks and good night
On the converting back to pref'd, is there a time frame from when they converted to common where he would have to wait to convert them back again? I ask cuz I don't know. Would the SEC allow insiders to convert back and forth at will?
I do remember. To your credit, you have not waver in your convictions. I just don't see JD raising A/S nor dilution occuring considering his statements to the contrary. Why dilute now and not when it went back down from highs to the .01's and upper .00's? Why wait? I know its a pink, but I can't get myself to buy in to that. Time will tell. Here's to hoping your prognostications are not accurate this time.
It be nice if you'd be wrong....once BTW, where's Springroll?
No such thing as too honest. Still say you should call him, but its your call of course. Certainly wouldn't accuse you of P&D, no doubt. Your a funny and strange guy LFM. Question, can this scenario occur or is this like going around the ankle-shallow lake instead of crossing it. Etc goes private, with 110mil outstanding. Expo mfg's majority of cabinets and gets its cut. EXPH then has a split, reduces to 100mil A/S, then is pulled into etc and uplists with a new structure of approx 200mil or so. All this only if revenue targets from retailers are achieved? Ok, good night for real.
PS. Remember, I know jack about this crap, so be gentle if I sound too much of an ignorami
I think that is a great question for SR to ask, ie Food Lion. And you can do your part by contacting Congresswoman Foxx who issued a statement in conjunction with that PR and who also mentioned exph during a session of Congress. Get back to us once done. TIA
FWIW, I first got some C's back in early '09 and in March, Eturd sent an alert stating they was going to be a dividend payment of something like 11K. Now obviously BK's do not pay divy's while in the BK process. Well, for shits and giggles, I called Eturd just to inquire why that alert came through. The guy just explained that the type of divy automatically is deposited and the deposit alert came b4 it was technically cancelled. Like I said, fwiw
Awww, just call him. JD won't do anything to you. Glad u got the 30 day sub, now you can pm me the "players" and what you know. Call JD man, don't be afraid lol
I think the profit Q is the best. IF truly profitable 2009, then that would beat all the other pos' I, you, we own. Magic enzyme companies, mystical stain removers, miraculous fertilizers, grave-site imageries, cure's for cancers, ha. If expo can show true profits for '09, then it separates itself from the rest. All imo
"...and a lot of great things are happening right now..." And the plot thickens...
"Question with boldness. Hold to the truth. Speak without fear."
Thanks for your candor and for sharing your Q&A's with the board. Appreciated
Nice 500 share trade to start. We're rolling now, lol
As far as we know here, it was put on the "back-burner" Whatever that means
Exactly. If one goes to all the trouble to set up multiple accounts with multiple names, and then goes to trade the same stock daily using those accounts, I guarandamndtee you its intentional. Like I said earlier, though some say otherwise, they aren't doing it. If they were, their hubris and greed will get them in the end
LOL, true, but then damned near every company on the pinks and quite a few on the bigger exchanges should be closed.
Well that's my point, you would have to be selling ot trading between yourself at some point. Its not worth the risk and even if you weren't selling to yourself, the appearance of impropriety would dissuade me from even attempting it
No doubt the company is no scam. IMO, I don't think it should be a publicly traded entity. I was referring to the market as a whole. Anyone who says its all supply and demand, that's the scam imo
I don't believe you use multiple accounts with different names to trade the same stock daily. Its not worth the risk
Yeah, I get it now. The whole damn thing is one big scam lol. Glad I don't make my living this way....you guys are too smart for me.
Why would someone flaunt doing that? Hubris? How can one get away with that?
Your really not worried about the perception of manipulative or wash trading? Then why don't we all do that? The stock would never move. Question, what is the counter to such trading? I mean, what is the one or two things that can occur that would make it impossible to hold a pps in a small range?
So let me get this straight, and I ask cuz I generally do not know. It is not "illegal" to use multiple accounts to trade the same stock daily? And if some are really doing this, you are saying that it is legitimate supply and demand trading? Wow. Unreal.
Edited....I do
Thanks. I googled Thorson and after reading his background and career, I suggest others read up on it.
Excellent info Jeremiah. Thanks for sharing
Let us not forget that many here who, on daily basis, castigate JD and expo were the very same ones who fed the P&D on the way up and made buku dinero. Got no problem with people making all the money they can. Just find it disingenuous when claiming to have such concern for those who bought in during the tail end of the P and are now, in your words, stuck with sleepless nights. Some of those who are so concerned played a huge part in the D and subsequent situation we are in now. And the divy hype, most of those same people who now bemoan every action or inaction of JD didn't have too much of a problem with it then. To your credit, you were against a divy/spin off from the outset, and yes your pps prdictions back then have materialized. You claim to know how JD can "fix" the stock. Well, I for one believe you should contact him at let him know. Let us know what he says. tia
Bottom line is if you have an opportunity to market your product with exposure like NASCAR you take it. You don't wait cuz you may not know when another opportunity like that will present itself. Take advantage. The product DOES exist, patents have been applied for, and some are obviously already built. In addition, the aim is to better an already existing product like etc. That is one of the biggest keys to marketing in business. Solve the competion's problems using your means. I don't understand having a problem with advertising with NASCAR, even at an early stage.
And that's the pertinent question. I don't know the answer to it. How do you tell what was an illegal trade and what isn't. Beats the hell out of me. I was pretty much speaking in generalities to the Mod's post. All the stocks I own have those strange trades. You know how many 100, 200 share trades at .05, .10, I've seen when those same shares could have been sold at the ask that was much higher? To many times.
In the end, it is on the CEO to verify what the company has and what they do not have. I'd say it is about time for that. But, illegal trading should never be tolerated, no matter if it happens on all exchanges on all stocks. Illegal activity should be spot-lighted and reported whenever it occurs, period. One cannot justify bad behavior by pointing to other or worse behavior. Again, breaking the law should NEVER be acceptible. In the end, greed and hubris will catch up to those who perform such actions, especially if it is flaunted. People can justify it any way they want, and they do and will continue to so.
I see your valid point, but I guess at this initial stage you have to see it as advertising to corporations and businesses, not the general public at large. It's like commercials for Prudential or AFLAC. Their advertisements are intended for businesses, not necessarily individuals. At least that's how I see it. I could be wrong...
Well, I'm certainly hoping at some point all the named/suggested retailers will carry etc. My city has a pop of about 300K. We have 3 Lowe's, 3 Menard's, 2 Home depot's, and one Window World. I suspect there are many cities like that
Look, I can't argue against what u r saying, I don't know why this route was taken. I wouldn't do it that way necessarily. I guess you would have to call JD and ask him those exact questions, minus the retailer part. This stock/company has always been kind of a head scratcher to me, but in the end, it really doesn't matter to me that much. If etc is a success, great. If its not, that's fine too. As has been said here b4, u can't win if you don't play. Isn't that what these pennies are really, just one big lottery?
Yes I am, but it just is starting to seem that way. At least there is the same them in the negative post. Recruitment, no. Piling on, yes
Excellent post. I think they are actually starting to recruit folks for that purpose. Sad part is, it will never end imo
I think it has everything to do with those mentioned being depositary shares. If your British Telecom and you want to have your stock traded in American markets, you do so via an ADR. If you decide you would like Lehman Bros as the issuer and the vehicle for investors to buy your stock and Lehman goes bankrupt, well your company (BT) isn't bankrupt. So in theory, wouldn't the shares still have value? Does that make sense or am I just way off? I've always struggled with the concept of ADR's and bankruptcy. Just an idea...
Which would make sense and coincide with the release of the tentative outline of reorganization expected at end of q1. I am curious if Mr. Marsal still believes he can pull off his "nutty" goal of re-emergence in Sept '10. We'll see...
Its such a vague deal. To whom did exph announce it to, TDA? I don't recall being encouraged by the company to convert to physical certs. You know I am behind the company and am a long, but I am admittedly a novice and a lazy long, and a busy one at that, to go thru a bunch of BS. I hope others could provide some clarity on this. I hate calling Eturd and talking to their csr's. Geesh
I can't wrap my mind around what that exactly means, maybe its because my team lost the SB So I have to call say Eturd and request my shares via physical certs or do the respective brokers have to verify the shares eligible for the divy via this method? I appreciate all input on this.