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Frank...you make a point, but the gross profit is very low off of $60MM revenue - do you or don't you agree? Thanks!
I hear ya about being ticked. I was yesterday for a while. I think it comes down to does a person agree or disagree with the direction of how the company is being steered? If disagree or not happy it may be time to reduce position or sell. I'm going to hang in there and give him longer time to get this up and running. I knew upfront that there would be some bumps and the risk involved unlike investing in a company like AAPL or GM. Frustrating at times, yes, but for me I'm not ready to bail.
You have some valid questions. I too have been wondering about the legal deal in the works. If it didn't pan out, I think he should tell us. Also, if it is still in the works, it would be good to know a bit more. That will be up to everyone themselves to determine how they feel about him. I've noticed communication changes the past couple of months...he is more careful than ever about what he says. I'm sure he has some pressures going on too and has heard from investors and shareholders who aren't the happiest. So "tone" of the message is going to go a long way right now. IMO
Don't take this wrong from me, but I think he is done corresponding with anyone that thinks he might be lying. He is particular in who he corresponds with...the "tone" is the key. He regards himself as a straight shooter and remains that he came from a highly regarded industry/professional work. Just saying what I think he is doing - too busy with things going on and don't want to spend time on negativity (not saying your message was).
That is good to have your updates since you go to their office. Do you go there every week or once per month?
WOW...never known him to do anything like that. I'd calling back and tell him "thanks for hanging up on me" but as a shareholder "I deserve to know."
As of Sept 30, 2013...3 billion to 5 billion. Not sure if any other changes, but they file with the SEC with changes.
Thought that was what you called Kay about???
Did you get the info you wanted from Kay? What did he say about your question? On the flip side of not having a receptionist, he at least is accessible to shareholders...with a lot of penny land companies, you cannot get anyone to respond. A lot of them are shells/bogus.
I think a few shareholders grabbed onto some shares today and a MM really likes 5's. Although some dilution came in, there was some excellent buying going on. So far, this WAY better than yesterday. A little early to call it a "base" yet, but could be the start of one.
Could be...not sure how the rest of the day and aftermarket is going to end, but so far I like today WAY better than yesterday.
There's also has been some nice blocks of buys as well today. Some good action today!
As of September 30, 2013...
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=59475135
3 billion to 5 billion
Everyone cancel your sell orders for 6's and lets see what happens.
That is for sure! We don't want 3's.
I was thinking an 80% chance we Won't see 3's today. Thanks for your input!
Indy...what do you think the probability is that we will see 3's today?
Looks like signals from one MM at 4's to another one that wants 5's. Not bad so far today. Lets see where these MM's go with SFOR today.
So far, 5's are liked today.
Regarding buyout...listen to Kay's words carefully. He mentioned when sales/revenue have greatly increased is when they will think of buyouts. We aren't there yet. He and the SFOR boys have too much of their own time and money into SFOR to take a low buyout. They want to see stability, and more value with SFOR before they talk about a buyout. Based on my conversations with mgmt., they wish things have progressed better a couple of years ago (frustrating to say the least for all of us)...expect some bumpy roads ahead until Blank gets done what they need to do, etc. Another thing, it would be nice to know how some of the pilots are going and what potential there is (specifics). Yesterday, a major-major airline was mentioned in the interview (pilot). There is supposedly a large legal deal in the works...I'm going to want to know about that too. Just don't announce the deals in the works...let us know from time-to-time how they are progressing with as much info as can be said. If pilots have concluded without going forward - we should know that too. I know some of that takes time, but get some revenue coming in SFOR boys. I have to remind myself...I put money in SFOR and not AAPL or GM, so I shouldn't complain so much...if I can't handle it - I should get out and put my money in AAPL or some other less volatile company like GM. Still holding! IF the PRs are not good now, wait until WhiteSky is finished up, then Comcast, and some others. SFOR will have SOLID PRs in 2014 (hopefully one solid one this December). Again "knowingly" not AAPL or GM, but holding on when the road gets rough and then smoother again!
Thanks, and chime in again sometime!
I did this at the 9's and bought back some. I have had an order for 4's in for a long time and didn't get them filled today. I might pull that order or reduce it...not sure if I want anymore at this point. I rather buy when things are considered more stabile. Good luck if you get back in.
Today, it got a little more risker for anyone holding. Still risky if you get in now, but you have "reduced your risk some" by waiting and catching at a lower price ONLY if it bounces back up a little shortly after you buy it. The Koolaid is tasting watered down right now. If we get decent revenue for Q3 (we will know in 10 to 20 days), or if some significant news comes out - then the dilution might go away for a while - hopefully for good. We really might see some .0002's and .0003's before we see .001 again...it isn't unrealistic. Welcome and good luck on your decision.
Another 30million at 4's went through
A lot of us have the "quantity" already...we need "quality" now. The lower it gets it is like drinking pissed down beer. I rather pay $3.00 for regular strength beer instead of paying $3.00 for a diluted beer. Quality is what we now need to get the share price back to where it has better value.
The last time SFOR was at .0004, the stock got a lot got a lot of attention from newbies. It has happened again (somewhat) today. Last time, 4's didn't stay there very long at all. This time we have more dilution, BUT we have patent wins that we didn't have before. Interesting to see how long 4's will be on the screen this time.
The "Trades" button on IHUB will tell you.
That is just a small portion of the icing on the cake...lots going on that is good. There will be various ways SFOR can capture solid revenue in the near future...good opportunities are ahead for SFOR. Got a little while longer of bumpy roads ahead of us, and one day...this thing will take off.
I should have added, I see us WELL above a penny in 2014.
10-4. I have to say I am cautious about the interview...meaning the timing of it. So often companies like to put out a piece to "soften the blow" of a bad quarter. I hope this is not the case. I am still looking to capture some shares below 5. I think it will happen. On the flip side, Kay is right, 3-4 months is not a very long amount of time. I think 2014 is the year for SFOR to become stabile, and we will be out of the .000's for good.
Lots said in this interview. One thing I can say about Kay is that he admits some of the not so good things that happened to the company...seems to call it as it is.
Here is the interview...
http://thewallstreetanalyzer.com/strikeforce-technologies-otcbbsfor-ceo-interview/
Doesn't seem to be a recap of the interview with Kay...maybe it will be published soon/online to view.
News! New interview with Kay...look on IHUB, your trading platform, Google, etc to read it. I haven't read it yet but it is out there.
My error, a few days ago (last day of October not last day of Sept) was the end of the third quarter.
The third quarter was over a few days ago (last day of September). Because of that, they couldn't have released 2 weeks ago.
That is better!
American Banker (lots of tech information today). Banking tech, mobile devices, etc. Some good reads.
http://www.americanbanker.com/technology/
If SFOR can consistently get over $100,000 of revenue per month (from ANY kind of revenue stream) the liquidation/dilution will dramatically stop and they will need less of the investor deals/less liquidation occurs. Even a consistent $75,000 per month will help. Kay knows EXACTLY what is going on, and I think he still feels that SFOR will prevail. In fact, in an interview he said something such as: Strikeforce Technologies is the largest opportunity he has ever had. Believe that or not. But for believers, that was said by a guy that retired from a very good job. He has more money and time invested in SFOR than any of us. Again, he knows how choppy things are - but I believe his plans will prevail. Will we have more choppy water ahead, you bet. I think by the middle of 2014 will be the telling story if SFOR is going to be a huge money maker or not. We could see some .0003's and .00044's in the meantime, but hopefully, by mid 2014, we are well over a penny. SFOR has been well over a penny in the past, and except for the dilution, SFOR has WAY MORE going on now than ever before!!!
Good info. If I was an investor instead of a shareholder and was able to get shares less than half the price the retail shareholder gets, and turn around in 6 months with more than a 100% profit, I would do it in a heartbeat too. With deals like that, I wouldn't want to hold any longer than 6 months...I would take the profits, assess where the company is at, and possibly make another investment for another 6 months. Big profits in the shortest amount of time is what everyone wants.