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At what SP do the apologists buckle? What harm would a little shameless promotion do? It sure kept the SP higher under the old regime when they had a dream only. Stan Kronke has more money than Trump, and just wrote check for 550M to the NFL for relo fees, a check. There are plenty of billionaires out there looking for start ups, first they would need to hear about the company. Status quo will see this at .25 if they re up with the tribe. I'm getting tired of the excuse bag opening every time thing gets whacked- these guys can do better for shareholders, they only care about themselves.
Never would have thunk it, but you called it brother. Of course you have been off the mark dozens of times but this one from way back gets you mulligans on those because it was that unfathomable at the time. From up 200% to down 40%, delighted. You could pick up a pant leg full for a song right now..maybe i'll try being a trader, shure has beaten the hell out of the whole long thing to date.
The SP could use some oysters currently.
Keeping in line the run silent run deep aversion to promotion,the good doctor hand picked this time slot as to draw as little attn to the company as possible,in addition to a 50% off "last gets the least" discount on podium time, saving shareholders $750, or roughly 90% of the 2016 ad budget.
The point is some here gave them the benefit of doubt and voted yes, but of course that's when it was still warm and fuzzy with the new BOD. I voted no- think if that was held today it would still pass?
My counter to that is there is no new money in this stock-longs aren't selling,we are "hoping" they have a plan to un ass themselves from their benefactor. If they actually embraced self promotion, got some new blood in here then I could argue some manipulation was occurring. It could be NDA's for sure, and to your other point these scumbag lending types are being watched very closely these days by the SEC relative to leaks and all that jazz. Since the good doctor is deaf on the whole PR thing, it could really be pissing of the tribe as they aren't getting their fat return and are squeezing anything they can while it lasts.
Again,this is DM pure and simple. I'd like to believe they are on notice and wringing every last ounce of water out of the rock before their free ride ends, but who the hell knows. I'm not a trader, but doesn't it have to go up and down for them to make money?. Sure glad some ya'll voted for those extra 50M shares.
Fat chance
I would tend to agree with that hypothesis,much more likely than evil bashers and shorts. Pretty hard to make beer money off a stock who's chart has resembled a downhill ski run since the good Dr took the wheel.
Going against all common sense, and sworn word I would never buy another share of this wretched highway to hell grease fire, I just might average down if it dips in to the 30's. It's gotta be dead cat bounce time IMO.
Nahh..just DM bellying up to the bar.
Nothing make sense with this one- from the SP, to the glaring lack of media, to the stunning silence of mgmt. Most tormented investment I have ever owned.
LOL, because in spite of their general malaise towards shareholders, abysmal SP,lack of any fundamental media effort,seemingly clueless ability and or interest to rectify the lending debacle in quick fashion,I am hanging in for a buyout at any # higher than my cost average,which is amazingly down 35% after six years with all their recent accomplishments.
IMO We'd be trading at least 2X current levels with him still at the helm. He had his shortcomings no question, but at least he understood the concept of media and the SP. Arrogance and the silent treatment have killed interest in this.
I can hear their teeth chattering from here.
The latter IMO. BOD sacking GB, and going dark was akin to Colts leaving Baltimore in the middle of the night. Fans/Shareholders are at the lowest end of the food chain. Being an ISC apologist or a cynic won't matter in the end really if you hold. We are all here for the same reason, but best believe they don't care about you,and answer to only one shareholder.
Just wait till those Cargo orders ship, Katie bar the door..
Genius is pain.
Funny, I said that verbatim - five years ago. Actually it was six, but what's another year here when you're having this level of fun?
You need to re read this part of his post, and repeat it every day.
"a success for the business does not necessarily mean a good deal for shareholders"
Closing in on the 52 week low,how fitting and delightful a year it has been. Don't make New Years resolutions usually, but one for sure is going to be never touch an OTC again in this lifetime. Shoulda bought Netflix like all the other mainstream shlubs and been up 140% this year, as opposed to down 30% after a six year long root canal.
Perhaps to an extent, but IMO the complete lack of any attempt to position and promote the company has rendered it non existent to new inverstors. You can say it's DM, but for all we know they are done selling for the moment. Brillant scientists middle names aren't always business- quite clearly the case here as they seem as astonished as we are at the SP. That, and or it's just not as important to them as the folks who held this thing up for years.
Pretty much sums it up, ditto on the RS being my worst fear as well. Would be a fait a compli really after the pain of holding this for years.
Guess we were all hooked on a feeling;)
One of the many head scratchers with this one is why DM doesn't tell them to work the media for all it's worth to increase their ROI. If the SP were over a buck, they might not open the valve as often. That would explain why the torrid clip at which they convert is significantly higher than the good ole days.
Hard to imagine this thing was actually trading at 1.50, when they had nothing. Loud and clear on that note to self.
I'd take the 400 in a flash. That would show consistent growth and look good for potential lenders if that is the direction they are going. On another note, as to why these knuckleheads squander gold mine opps to get the story out- I got nothing.
Exactly. They had nothing for the Q prior so it's critical to have at least 400-500 shipped on the initial TSA order, as that # would give them back to back record Q's. 200 units and it's a red Q.
Speaking of performance,they haven't sold anything this Q. So now the next in a seemingly un ending guessing game is quantity of the TSA shipment. "three figures" could mean 200 or 900, big diff. It's just a little game of torment I play with myself and matters not as Buff stated so eloquently this puppy is neutered.
They've been adding employees for years- all it does is increase the burn rate. However in the near term we can look forward to some nice tax loss selling till the end of the year. 2016 here we come!
Unfortunately true.
.49 and delighted
Not a single whisper of manufactured media after arguably the defining moment in company history. Flea collars would make great stocking stuffers.
I think we should wait till re fi before any attempt at media. We wouldn't want to squander good press oportunities with all the toxic overhang.
I love your half full mindset,i'm a very positive person but you would never know that reading my prattle here as of late. Lumpy sales for sure, problem is they roll boxcars this Q and you can take that last one and flush it down the toilet- non consectutive Qs of growth is a dagger.
How about some other sales in the last few months? TSA order is the hail mary pass for the Q, it will be brutal without that. I would do the snoopy dance for $2 right now, jump in my rocket ship, and blast off this wretched planet.
Delighted
I think they will remain FAT, shareholders anorexic.
They've had one good Q, haven't sold jack this one. If Frank Capra and Jimmy Stewart don't turn this into a wonderful Christmas it pushes it out yet again and right on the cusp DM's march re fi date. It never,ever, changes- always the molasses dipped carrot on the pole just out of reach of the jackass plodding down the dirt path. It's analogous to holding a wet paper bag of dog crap over a pair of good shoes.
You know it becomes so much less of a brain fry when you realize this thing has been cursed from the get go. Based on proven track record, it will be once again coal in the stocking no doubt.
Bah humbug.
Six year anni for me here next week,and I categorically know far less about SP dynamics now than in 2009.
Wow, I was delighted for at least five minutes.
Somebody knows something,"stay tuned"..
I'll take that $3 now Oracle of Delphi, we should be so lucky.