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I'll take a look at his post.
Been workin on another project that has taken up my days. I'm gonna eat, read up on what went down taday a I'll post my thoughts if I have any on his question. This is the site to talk technology. If he's over there askin tech question he'll be branded as satan no matter how logical the question or opinion. They actually think you can put up a shingle sayin hho for sale and it all just comes to you like majic. If you tell them how fulla sht they really are they freak. Day Traders and really dumb longs playin each other without a brain in the bunch.
I'm trackin em.
Over 28 million shares sold for around $325k. If you're in that class, go for you. 5 million sold for 67.5k.
Did ya notice all those million share sells?
Stay tuned bro, I've got some much bigger plans I'm tryin ta interest others in. Others that can make real waves. Lock in your profits brother. A whole bunch are today.
Rhythm, thanks for the PM.
Ya really jumped the gun with that one. I think ya need a "Don't Shoot the Messanger" type response. I think ya need ta be the voice of reason on the subject. I know folks that would own the farm in an instant if that advise isn't heeded. Ever hear the Johnny Cash tune "Get Rhythm"?
Some much needed info. Better listen.
I posted to ryan on another board but thought i share this with you all. You had a nice PR. I'd have many questions but before any of that HLNT needs this advise and fast. Never, I repeat NEVER EVER publish a PR without a Safe Harbor statement included in the PR. Take this advise from one who knows, you can lose everything fast if you don't. A simple bit below on Safe Harbor but do your own DD company guys.
Safe Harbor Statement
A statement typically found in the fine print at the end of a corporation’s press release that says that the “forward-looking statements” are based on a number of events and assumptions. It cautions investors not to put too much reliance on these statements because they are subject to a number of uncertainties that the company can’t control and that may cause the results to differ from the statements. The readers of the release are referred to the company’s filings with the SEC for further information.
The safe harbor statement received a large push from the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. That law protects issuers of publicly-traded securities from liability for certain financial projections and related facts and figures. The SEC’s rules require companies to say that their projections are forward-looking and to include cautionary statements advising investors about key risk factors that might affect the statements’ accuracy.
You must mean recomend.
No problem with that. Like I said earlier today. I own nothing.
First off, congrats on a nice PR Ryan.
Im gonna give ya an opinion now, mine. I doubt aquiring the rights means any money changed hands. The royality is good. I'd love to see some real numbers. I'd imaging 4 wheelers will be imported to HLNT for U.S. sales and possibly other countries from DongFeng. Probably a sub of DongFeng. Again I'd like to see the margines. As far as the hho use I have a huge caution you should pass on to HLNT. Your quote has HLNT stating that joint ventures are under way. That wording could have huge repercussions if in fact the status is the same as the privious PR and talks are just on going. Think about what I'm sayin before you have a coniption fit. It appears from the little that i read (I just got home) that they did not even follow that claim with a "Safe Harbor" stating A forward looking statement. If that's not there, do them a huge favor and remind them of the worst case scenario possibilities. They may have been brought up in the Private Sector but need to learn about the Public liability stuff ASAP. Take this email anyway you want but you can be sure it contains some advise I've given many times while being paid to do so. Nice PR info despite my advise and request for numbers.
Don't mix apples and oranges.
They will always build a product if you pay them. That's what the do. To put a HLNT hho unit on their cars is a whole different ballgame.
HYDB, HYHY, ARSC just a few and flounderin with the same business plan as HLNT like I've been tryin ta tell you. Go read the Hydrogen Hybrid Corp. Ibox. Sound familiar? Failure, CEO s goin to prison. Securities Fraud. Blue Sky laws, PR's. You'll get it soon. After market hho units aint gonna cut the mustard pal. It's DongFeng or nothin for HLNT and the Chinese aint over payin for some hho unit. You can wish upon a star as long as ya want.
Specific??
I didn't think i had to teach ya how ta use ebay. Search hho generators. Click on highest price first. The first one ya see produces 25 liters/min and is $1000.00 or best offer. It's not what ya want so skip down ta DCHybrids. Therer's one i like even better for about 300 bucks. Go look at just a small portion of the competition. Most are not on ebay but you should get the picture.
Puff will be watching now.
If ECMH ever gets into the hho realm they will absolutely kick ass. Go relisten to Webber's interview on hho. He knows exactely what's up and how to do it. They don't even have to go to some Chinese engine company to show the world. THEY ARE THE ENGINE COMPANY. Puff will be pssed for a while as he starts to get the picyure I spelled out to them but he'll be looking for hho profit in the future. He'll be just fine if he starts to listen. Just needs someone to take him under their wing.
Welcome Dragon5, folks
This dude is from the HLNT site where I've posted about their company and hydrogen gas production unit. A low producing hho unit that they sell for $1800.00 and claim they have millions spoken for. You can get a better unit on ebay for about a forth their cost. I kinda gave them my opinion on their success projection. It came out much lower than their sales projections which they've now removed from their site. Looks like Dragon5, I call him "Puff the Hoping for Majic Dragon" is a little po'd at me.
hho unit price search
I've posted about over priced $1800.00 stainless steel units already. I'm now lookin for titanium plated units that produce over 2 liters a min. Any of you readers have info on companies, private or public in that range? I'm also lookin at all public companies i can find in the hho gas production realm. Any help there would also be appreciated.
Question for joseywales
josey, you've been tellin new posters that all the company information is on the Ibox. I actually see that all of the company PR's prior to 2010 have been removed. Any new potential investor would like to see those PR's. They were there a couple of weeks ago. The botton line is that you're telling them all info is there and actually much has been removed. Those PR's contained the original DongFeng PR as well as revenue forcasts and Distributor information. I knoe they were there cause I cut and pasted info from them. do you have any information on why important company information was removed and who removed it?
jimstock
I looked at them for about 30 mins. Didn't like the Texas crowd or the hydrogen plan. Did call a friend in Portland to ck out the hydrogen opperation. No call back yet. What you got that might change my mind about them? I really don't know that much. No pps movement at all.
I don't own anythin.
Why would anyone make themselves a target?
Redshirt
I was using that statement as an example of a lie that could be posted on this board to deceive readers. I've never heard or seen any mention of Highline by DongFeng. So no, there never has been any news saying DongFeng is not workin with HLNT. Also none sayin they are. I was makin a point to a guy that posted that another company was in a lawsuit and certain claims were made in that suit. It was completely false. I asked how he'd feel if I posted a similar lie here. hope that answers your question.
Really? That's pretty screwed up.
They probably don't understand what you're talkin about. I'm for no posts bein deleted. At least within reason and everyone has a right to their opinion. Even the dudes I think are idiotic. It all has ta do with the companies and if it's on that subject they should be hands off. When I was on Yahoo they were much better about that.
I posted that and I meant it.
Who's opinion do you think it was? Did I have to tell you? I stand behind that post today. What part of it looks like inside information ta you? What you seem to be saying is that you don't trust me, HLNT or Dongfeng. I can understand your position. I asked a question in that post. Ask yourself the same question. You just might get another feelin on the possible Dongfeng JV. When you're done call the two RV companies and total up their inventory of purchased Highline hho units. Let me know what they tell you. See if that total is close to $750,000.00 in sales as reported. do your own DD, don't believe a word I post. After all it's just my opinion. You're head is already racin outta control on how I come to these opinions. Do yourself a favor dude. Don't claim that HLNT is doin somethin they're not. I've never talked with them or gotten any info from them or DongFeng. You're now startin false rumors about your own investment. At least you're planting that seed and it's way off base again. Get a handle on your imagination.
Don't be an idiot.
Now you're back to the "I'm mad" mode and making ahole claims and asking stupid questions. I have nothing to do with any companies other than providing information to others who invest. What in the world has gotten you off on your latest tangent? Me? You write that HLNT is "Your" investment. Let me give you a clue pal. It's more than just yours. Chill out and quit being so defensive and quick to be wrong again just because I called you on posting false information on a public board. I didn't do it, you did and you're fightin back with the same lack of thought and DD. How would you like it if I unintentionaly posted that Dongfeng has published in China that they will have nothin ta do with Highline? You'd probably come back livid that I messed with "Your" investment and posted lies.
Those were the days prior to posting false information on public forums about a public company. I use the term clown simply because of that. Fact is i don't know you at all nor have i ever had a beef with your posts until you crossed a big line. In fact I liked your posts and videos. I like your enthusiam about hho and believe you're a real long that believes in the technology. Just because I don't always agree with you doesn't mean I have anythin against you. I called you a clown for one specific set of posts that you should never had posted.
Unintentional?
No I think you intended to post just what you did. The problem is you did so without reading and those that read your pots don't have a clue that w you were dead wrong. Let's see if you retract your claims where ever you made them. I've looked at the Florida company you linked. They aren't public so i have no interest. as i've said, ECMH has no problem making their own hho unit if they want. If not I don't need to tell them where to purchase one. I suspect they'd be given any they look into to test and endorse in a scientic manner. My interest has always been in the pump a video or/and article like that would do for a public hho company. Far more than the nonsense on the HLNT board bein pumped as majic.
hho, this clown didn't take the time to read or he might have gotten the right info. Instead he posted a article and never read anything about the suit. Then he posts that the rotary engine technology is involved in a suit claimin it was stolen. Now some other freak steps up and posts that I should be careful. These dudes are lost.
Read your quotes I posted.
They're flat out lies about a pending lawsuit naming rotary engines as stolen technology and they're your exact words. Your seem to want to bury those claims of yours. Then you post that you didn't even read or do DD on the suit you linked to. A suit from 2006 that was dropped.
SEE ANY PROBLEM HERE WITH YOUR CLAIMS?
Why should I be careful? I don't care who's investing.
I'd love to hear one poster point out some reasons why I should care what anyone associated with Highline thinks about my posts. They all work very hard to delete my posts because they can't or wont debate what I say. Maybe you're the guy who can step up and tell me why I should worry one second about any of my posts. My guess is that you're another who doesn't want to go there.
Here's what you're lying about.
You posted on several boards that the rotary engine company was BEING sued for stealing technology. See your own quotes below. Then you post a link to an article from Feb 2006 about the Xboard lawsuit. I can tell you that it was dropped for lack of merit. You then state that you didn't even read it but choose to say the rotary engine technology was perhaps stolen technology and was now in a lawsuit regarding that claim. Fact is the rotary engines were never mentioned or were a part of any lawsuit. In your zeel to fight back you simply posted lies, false information.
Sure I could be an asset to HLNT as a supporter. I'm not because i think they have gone down a path to destruction. That's what I believe and have posted just that. You don't have to educate me on the hho positives. I probably know them better than most.
You also post about a desperate attempt from ECMH to get an hho generator. Think about that a minute and how dumb that statement is. Do you actually think that technology minds like those that redesigned how air fuel is introduced to rotaries needs HLNT to produce an hho generator for them. Get real dude. If they can make rotary engines they can make a friggin simple hydrolysis unit too. If the don't want to they can buy one anywhere.
I didn't post at HLNT's site because ECMH needed HLNT. Just the opposite. I feel that if a quality, reasonably priced hho unit was presented like I have posted it would push the hho company over the top. I've watched several hho public companies fail because they don't get it. I've also watch the China connections kill a company while the chinese steal technology.
60k/month revenue increase,nice.
So Quadrant is now officially virtual and they already developed and TradeMarked a new product. A product that saves customers at least half their present monthly cost, is twice as fast and more secure. Now that's what I'm friggin talkin about.
HYPERBACKBONE, cheaper, faster, unmatched security. Now that should sell itself. I've been goin back and forth with some low tech fools on another board that launched a product that thousands of others make, produces less and costs twice as much. They just don't get that the public is gonna laugh them off. This Hyperbackbone technology is exactly what I've been sayin ya need in order to compete and win. Nice stuff Quadrant.
whoever sells at .93 gets the biggest gift of the day.
Once again the MM's are the traders best friend. A pps jump on equal sells and buys. Gravy.
fink, a high OS increases liquidity. did you mean volatility
What are you tryin to say in this post?
I passed on the HLNT information to ECMH and I was told they talked. I don't work for anyone and I don't contact anyone about any deals. If I was inclined to do that I'd contact HLNT and ask them what the hell they are thinkin. I'd point out their PR's and Blue Sky laws. Time will tell about the last claim of purchase orders. I did do DD on that claim and found companies that are "Drop Ship" companies that sell on the net and have the manufacturer ship as a sale is booked. a far cry from a purchase order but possibly a projection that means little at 1800 bucks a pop.
What are you talkin about dude.
I haven't been toutin anything but how to present the product successfully. I don't know where ya came up with the claim that ECMH is being sued for stealin the rotary engine technology and the xboard but you're dead wrong and had better get those facts right. That's a flat out lie Ryan and if that's important to ya you'd be best served to get those facts right. I'm not sure where you got that info but please share the case # you refer to and I'll post the claims and Complaint. in addition, i don't care if HLNT deals with ECMH or not. I really doubt ECMH would be interested for reasons I've posted.
I don't see HLNT doin any deal with Dongfeng because it makes no sense from the Dongfeng perspective at all. Why would they. I suppose I could take your route and falsely claim HLNT stole the hho technology and is being sued. Fact is that they have no sellable technology. as you posted yourself, it's common knowledge with hundreds of manufacturers producing units. Units that produce more hho at much less cost. Therein lies the problem and makes my point. they are takin the wrong route for success. As many have before you, you've gotten giddy about the same results we've seen for years. I've heard all of the fleet sales talks and govt. connections that see the hho light and are lined up to by millions of the units. See Hydrogen Hybrid corp. PR's for that info. They are effectively dead now but took the HLNT path two years ago. Unlike you I'm not making these things up. They are a public company and you can do your own DD. I've asked you for the info on HLNT hho unit materials and production quantity. You've ignored the real comparison to others question. Probably for good reason. It's you who needs to knock the crap off. You've made up lies and refuse to compare apples to apples. No company is gonna sell a product that is low producin and over priced. That's just the way it works in marketing.
No, what I'm sayin now is I think you're just too limited to have a technology talk with on any subject. I've just given you enough time and the historical posting to prove it to everyone else. Please tell me you have ADD and there's a good reason you're that lack of cognitive ability.
hho related senator?
I'm lookin and i will find the best. so far as you surely know I'm not very impressed with the players. Reason is they'll all run up against the same wall unless the have the complete product. I'm not real big on the "After Market" add on products i've been lookin at. Ya gotta WOW the public and beat the science naysayers if ya wanna win this one. Can't be dealin with the companies that bow down to the energy cartel. You'll be waitin there forever with no results. There is a formula though that will get it done. I'm lookin for those with the smarts ta see it.
I take it that you meant hydrogen gas production not a hydrogen fuel cell. No public company that I have found has made a success with hho gas production unit sales. I post about several in an earlier post. all have claimed they have projected sales in the millions. None has repoted unit sales above 50k dollars. That's no to say some company won't make an impact. I've posted many times on what that would take. There are many green engine projects. Most don't hold water but some are very interestin. Include turbines and it gets better. ECMH is the rotary company I'm interested in. They claim to be the first company to meet Cal. emissions with a rotary and no cat. converter. Like poster hhonow posted, that engine is goin to EPA testing and those results will confirm or deny those claims. Interestin development is going on use ceramics in place of metals which also gets very interestin. My interest in rotaries is also based on the ceramic technology which can only be applied 100% to rotaries and turbines. Not sure if I answered your questions in total but that's my interest. If I were to pick a public company that is doin the best with hho it would be HLNT but they aren't even close to where it needs to be to make waves. if you want to go more inta the piston vs rotary debate just let me know. That gets even more interestin.
Here's some classic stupidity from a dude who bites hook, line and sinker. No mention of price, hho production or material quality (product life). Nope none. He who has an hho unit mapped to a specific engine, that produces over 2 liters per min. with a unit cost of say $300.00 with at least titanium plated plates wins. HLNT has a low producing $1800.00 stainless steel unit. That's like buildin an 8 dollar mouse trap that catches half the mice of the 1 dollar unit and expectin to have a billion dollar company in a yr, GOOD LUCK.
Midwestrader Share Sunday, September 19, 2010 5:15:40 PM
Re: Etrnaly post# 15337 Post # of 15339
Thanks,saved me from having to post nearly the same thing. Think about it,nearly anyone with some now how and some manufacturing can build a battery for a car. Some plastic,some plates and acid--simply. Yet SOMEONE or maybe two got the contract to supply batteries for every GM car rolling off the line--or every Ford build. Someone else got a contract to supply all Walmarts with the battery they sell.
They're simple and easy to build yet some win HUGE contracts and others just sell a few. It comes down to management and how well they are deal makers.
That's a lot of nothin brownboy.
Where do ya want to start with our "who's gonna look follish" technical conversation?
1. Rotary engines vs piston engines
2. HLNT hho technology
3. Why another simple hho unit producer will not become a billion dollar company. Especially with a unit price of $1800.00.
TYake your pick pal
Brownboy ya wanna talk technology or how ta run a public company? I'm up for either. Your cut and paste below that ya posted on the Highline board makes ya look foolish. ask your questions right here bro and i'll answer em for ya. HLNT board is so far out in la la land that real DD gets burried by some morons that think the pps will be .20 in two weeks. Now if ya wanna talk reality I'm your guy. Let's get wit it dude.
brownboy Share Sunday, September 19, 2010 4:38:25 PM
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check this out!!!
this is some Q and A from me to pd"good"...this is from a board the he and himself invented and the reason i speak of the "pd" standing for personality disorder. he has not one reasonable answer and he "they" never will.
brownboy Member Profile brownboy Member Level Share Monday, August 23, 2010 4:06:57 AM
Re: pdgood post# 6 Post # of 36
so what company, in your opinion, has the edge in hydrogen fuel technology? it does not matter to me if the company is publicly tradeed. i am aware that other companies, larger companies or more established companies, are developing this technology. and how does HLNT stack up versus the competition?
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pdgood Member Profile pdgood Member Level Share Monday, August 23, 2010 10:30:27 AM
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Hey brownboy.
Better than the other two public companies I mentioned. I'm really only interested if they're public so i haven't looked into the private companies much. Only to study where the technology is heading. HLNT has a nice opportunity with it's other companies along with the hho. especially the off road vehical co. There problem is I don't believe they have the knowledge to really take development where i think it needs to go. I've poster on their site about that. They also have the worst run board on Ihub. You can't have a serious conversation about hho applications and technology. Insiders run their board and delete any posts that aren't pumps if they can find a way. I posted links and info over there that was deleted everyday. To me that means they have something to hide. If I were you, I'd be very careful with Hlnt brownboy. seneral things in addition to the above really brother me about that company. As this board builds I'll be able to answer you question better. It seems like rotaryguy set it up for companies and individuals to come together in order to finally show what hho can do when managed right. We'll see. glad to see you're enterin that conversation.
Some good tech info for DD and builders.
What is best Plate Material for HHO Generator ?
The material that endures longer is better. It is most important of the life time in generator.
1) Platinum would be the best to use, but the cost would be to great. Aquareactor has supply the
Platinum coated plates Edition by order.
2) High surface coated titanium plates is our New plates do not turn the water dirty in any way. Our system
(Wet cell and Dry cell) keep always remain clear and clean and longest life span for customer's satisfaction.
Please see KM-series and KH-series
3) Stainless steel would be the next, and the most common, 316L is endures much longer than 304,
Aquareactor use 316L stainless steel plates in standard. Please see KW-series
4) Graphite would work great and endures material for the HHO generator, Aquareactor has supply
Graphite Edition.
Electroplating different from electrolysis in that the metal deposited from electrolysis plates out on the surface
of another metal. The electrolyte contains the plating metal in the form of dissolved ions and the anode
usually is made of the plating metal. The object to be plated is the cathode. In this reason, will become a
brown colored water (electrolyte) and consuming plates.
316L, Titanium plates are >0.125mm/year corrosion speed at NaOH 20%, 100 degree in centigrade.
It will vary, in Vehicle Condition & Maintenance, Voltage Variations and Electrolyte variations.
Best Electrolyte
A) Tap water (H2O + different particles)
Advantages: Available everywhere
Cheap
Almost safe ( see below )
Disadvantages:
Low gas production
Causes of oxidationThe various particles in water are congregating to the electrodes, and perturbate electrolysis
Beware of water containing chlorine! Electrolytic bath get “used” quickly
For Which HHO cell type: Easily cleanable cells ….
Conclusion: Not the best !
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B) White Vinegar (acetic acid)
Advantages:
Available at grocery store
Cheap
Safe
The electrodes stay clean
Disadvantages:
Low gas production
Strong smell
Which type of HHO generator:
All but gas production will be nearly zero in a Mason Jar type HHO Cell type
Test pure, pour white vinegar directly without diluting it in “Plates” generators whether dry or wet cell. Do you get a sufficient output for your vehicle ? Bingo! Continue this way Dude ! White vinegar is one of the most eco-electrolytes !
Conclusion:
Why not?
C) sodium bicarbonate – Baking Soda – NaHCO3
Advantages:
Available at grocery store
Cheap
Safe
Very good gas production
Disadvantages:
Significant and rapid oxidation, the water becomes brown
The electrolytic bath “wear out” quickly, we must change the bath every 1000 miles
Produces some CO2 and CO
Which type of HHO generator:
Only in a Mason Jar type HHO Cell , which you can drain and clean easily.
Not at all recommended for dry cells, unless you intend to spend your time disassembling and reassembling your cell ….
Conclusion:
Very Nice for starters, and only in a Mason Jar type HHO Cell
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D) Caustic Soda (Sodium Hydroxide – NaOH)
Yes, yes, it is indeed the blocked drain-pipe counter!
Advantages:
Available at grocery store
Cheap
Very good gas production
Production of 95 – 100% pure HHO
The electrodes stay clean
Not too dangerous to handle (but still dangerous!)
Disadvantages:
Corrosive, handle with care
Which type of HHO generator:
Interesting for all types of HHO generators
Conclusion:
Very good electrolyte
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E) Potash (Potassium Hydroxide – KOH)
Advantages:
Cheap
Excellent gas production
Production of 95 – 100% pure HHO
The electrodes stay clean
Disadvantages:
Corrosive, handle with care
The dilution of KOH in water produces heat, and can even bring water to boil, this reaction takes place even if you already are using KOH in aqueous solution.
Can’t find it every where, the best source I’ve found is….. ebay! Just click here for direct linking : Potassium Hydroxyde ( KOH )
For Which type of HHO generator:
Interesting for all types of HHO generators
Conclusion:
Excellent electrolyte
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F) potassium carbonate – K2CO3
Advantages:
Cheap
Excellent gas production
Production of 95 – 100% pure HHO
The electrodes stay clean
Safe
Disadvantages:
We did not find it so easyly
For my part I ordered from my pharmacist, before I discovered that it was avalaible on ebay for less ! See it here : Potassium Carbonate ( K2CO3 )
Which type of HHO generator:
Interesting for all types of HHO generators
Conclusion:
Excellent electrolyte
hhodude.
I got an email askin if you and me were dissin the last PR about Quadrant. I have no friggin idea where that impression came from. I commented on your post which said to use the website contained in the PR and not to make the mistake of goin to web perfections site. At least that's how I read your post. My comment was that it's all about revenue. By scary revenue numbers I ment that the potential was big as in scary big. I don't see how anyone could read either post of ours as a negative comment. Maybe you can exp;ain what you actually meant in your post.
Don't know but suspect that will happen when they are fully into hho gas development. That is if they choose to go that route. No reason to PR somethin you're not ready to present. By the way, Scott told me he talked to the HLNT CEO about hho and their product. He said he was a very nice guy but knew very little about hho production technology. He said he had some tech guy that he depends on for that development and information.