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I believe in magic
Dougal, We are off to the RC in Naples...everyone have a great wknd Is RC, Roman Catholics in Naples, Italy? You're only going to Naples for the weekend? Lucky you..say hi to the Pope for me OK?
Wow, when was the last time we had a 3 million share day?
Who are you to say that they are not a legitimate company? If you don't own any shares, what are you trying to accomplish?
If e.Digital were a legitimate company, it would have closed its doors a couple of years ago when it ran out of money. Instead, it resorted to extremely desperate financing methods. all that were very bad for shareholders, especially for those who buy in the future.
Where is your IMO for that statement?
Are we retracting back from our high? My quotes are 20 minutes behind and they show up 1.1 cent, but volume is still heavy at around 2 million shares.
It would be nice to hear some news soon
Very nice volume, but isn't kinda quiet around here. Do you think some people are eating crow? What kind of a sauce would you use? Is it better with steamed or fried vegetables.
This wasn't directed toward you Pre, you were just a handy avenue to post.
what is INERASTING? And where can I buy some?
Isn't that special, sad, but special none-the-less
Hey did you dispose of your recent purchase? Or are you waiting to see if it will go higher?
GRUB
Whatever the cause, it is a nice change of pace. Who knows what the future may bring? I hope it keeps going up, maybe we're seeing the end of the bears.
The spread is a penny and a half?
To All: Have a safe and happy Memorial Day. God Bless
Sabre69, I tried to get in and it wouldn't even start. Must have closed down for the Holiday weekend. I think you should do the same.
Everyone out there in cyberspace and beyond; Have a safe and happy Memorial Day.
Oz, you make some very good points whatever and whenever you post. I guess we could all do a mass filter and see what that would do. But then that would be like sticking our heads in the sand.
We should be able to stand up for our investment without being hammered with one, two or three year old information day in and day out. But I guess some have "special status" to be able to keep this up.
Too bad we didn't hear anything about it. This news blackout is getting kind of old. We must be in a blue "alert" level.
Blue = Guarded Condition.
Well will we clothe up or down today. Seems like the whole market is tanking a bit.
Chief, to talk to Matt directly........bring soap and popsicle sticks........just incase you're here longer than expected. You know what the soap is for, the popsicle sticks are used for therapy and you could win fabulous prizes as well!!!
Reuters
UPDATE - Puretunes launch tests music downloading legality
Tuesday May 20, 10:23 am ET
By Bernhard Warner, European Internet Correspondent
(Rewrites lead, adds detail, EMI and IFPI comments)
LONDON, May 20 (Reuters) - A controversial new music download service was launched on Tuesday in Madrid, pitting an upstart Internet firm against the record industry in a bid to sell digital recordings to consumers behind the labels' backs.
The new service, called Puretunes.com, lacks authorisation from music labels, but Puretunes said it is a legal service operating under licensing agreements from various Spanish trade associations representing performers and recording artists.
The site attempts to exploit a loophole in Spanish copyright law and carries thousands of songs from Madonna to the Beatles. Unlike other download services such as Kazaa, Puretunes manages a music library and says it will pay royalties to performers.
Not surprisingly, the music industry shot back that without music companies' approval, Puretunes -- which operates as a subscription download service -- cannot sell songs online.
"The record labels have the exclusive right to protect their recordings. There is no loophole here," said Allen Dixon, general counsel at the International Federation of Phonographic Industry (IFPI), the global trade organisation which represents the music industry.
"It's like saying I have permission from Ringo, George and Paul, therefore, I can start printing records. No they can't," he added.
Major recording labels Sony Music (Tokyo:6758.T - News), Warner Music (NYSE:AOL - News), Universal Music (NYSE:V - News; Paris:EAUG.PA - News), BMG , and EMI (London:EMI.L - News) have fiercely tried to crack down on unauthorised businesses that distribute songs online.
SCRAMBLING FOR A FIX
The music industry has been scrambling to derail online file-sharing services such as Grokster and Kazaa that enable consumers to trade tracks for free.
Such services have contributed to the industry's steep sales decline, highlighted on Tuesday by EMI which said sales of recorded music fell 12.6 percent in the last financial year.
In response, music companies have backed a host of Internet download services, the most successful of which appears to be Apple Computer's (NasdaqNM:AAPL - News) iTunes service.
EMI Recorded Music CEO Alain Levy acknowledged earlier on Tuesday that the official services don't quite cut it yet. "We have to make it more sexy to download music," said. "It will take some time."
According to Javier Siguenza, a Madrid-based lawyer representing Puretunes, the new company abides by Spanish copyright laws, but it is open to consumers everywhere. The IFPI's Dixon said they were reviewing the site but had not decided if they would take action against it.
Eight hours of downloads cost $3.99 while unlimited downloads for a month cost $24.99, a steep discount from industry-sanctioned services such as Pressplay and those operated by Britain's OD2.
Puretunes is not the first online music service set up to take advantage of Spain's copyright regime. Weblisten.com launched in 1999 selling music downloads without the labels' approval. It has been sued by various music companies but remains in operation.
Adding to the intrigue, Puretunes has signed Grokster, the free file-swapping network that won a recent U.S. legal decision against the music labels, as a marketing partner. Grokster will get a cut of sales leads it brings to Puretunes.
Reuters
UPDATE - Madrid music Web site tests downloading legality
Tuesday May 20, 7:06 am ET
By Bernhard Warner, European Internet Correspondent
(Adds comment from IFPI, para 6)
LONDON, May 20 (Reuters) - A new music download service, launched on Tuesday in Madrid, tests a legal loophole in Spanish copyright law that appears to give Web sites permission to sell songs online without consent from record companies.
Running under a banner on its homepage that reads "No Rules. No limits", the new service, Puretunes.com, is sure to raise the ire of the music industry.
Major recording labels Sony Music (Tokyo:6758.T - News), Warner Music (NYSE:AOL - News), Universal Music (NYSE:V - News; Paris:EAUG.PA - News), BMG , and EMI (London:EMI.L - News) have fiercely tried to crack down on unauthorised businesses that distribute songs online.
The music industry has been scrambling to derail online file-sharing services that enable consumers to trade tracks for free. Such services have contributed to the industry's steep sales decline, highlighted on Tuesday by news EMI's sales of recorded music fell 12.6 percent in the last financial year.
According to Javier Siguenza, a Madrid-based lawyer representing Puretunes, the new company abides by Spanish copyright law even though it does not have direct authorisation from the music labels themselves.
CAUGHT OFF GUARD
The International Federation of Phonographic Industry (IFPI), the global trade organisation that represents the music industry, was caught off guard by the launch. An IFPI spokesman said they were reviewing the site, but had not decided if they would be taking action against it.
Puretunes will sell subscriptions allowing consumers to download songs by virtue of licensing agreements it has struck with various Spanish trade associations that represent performers and recording artists.
Puretunes will compensate the artists and labels from subscription proceeds, Siguenza said.
The site carries thousands of songs from Madonna to the Beatles. Consumers can download songs in hourly blocks.
Eight hours of downloads cost $3.99 while unlimited downloads for a month cost $24.99, a steep discount from industry-sanctioned services such as Pressplay and those operated by Britain's OD2.
Siguenza said the new service does not need individual authorisation from the major music labels, a point the industry is likely to contest as they have insisted Web sites wanting to sell downloads secure the appropriate licensing contracts.
In fact, a number of labels have sued another Spanish firm, Weblisten.com, that has been selling music online.
Adding to the intrigue, Puretunes has signed Grokster, the free file-swapping network that won a recent U.S. legal decision against the music labels, as a marketing partner. Grokster will get a cut of sales leads it brings to Puretunes.
"We've been doing everything we can to sell authorised music and basically this has been our only option," said Wayne Rosso, president of Grokster. "We're out to prove a point: we can sell the music."
So, did we clothe up or down? An interesting note, they haven't issued any more shelf shares for quite some time and they are hiring again. Those two things speak volumes IMO.
Fung...........don't forget about the DIM WITZ
Gernb1, you must have hit a bump with this double post.....drum roll please.
Reuters
Song-swappers taking bite of Apple's service
Wednesday May 14, 7:15 pm ET
By Sue Zeidler
LOS ANGELES, May 14 (Reuters) - Apple Computer Inc.'s (NasdaqNM:AAPL - News) new online music store has proven to be both a runaway commercial success and a backdoor route to unauthorized song-swapping by some Macintosh users, analysts and music executives said on Wednesday.
Apple on Wednesday announced that more than 2 million songs have been bought and downloaded from its iTunes Music Store since it launched 16 days ago.
That figure, according to analysts, easily surpasses the traffic of various other label-sanctioned services launched over the past year and a half to combat online piracy.
Apple's strong sales record is welcome news to music labels searching for a commercially viable alternative to free unauthorized peer-to-peer services they say have lured millions of would-be consumers from buying music.
But the industry's enthusiasm may be tempered by the emergence of Web sites and software applications that enable Mac users to search other Web-connected Mac computers' hard drives to listen to songs online, without the necessary licenses and permission.
Carey Ramos, an attorney for the National Music Publishers Association, said he was impressed with Apple's service and hoped the company will take steps to eliminate the file-sharing.
Although Apple, which sells songs for 99 cents, has said its service only allows users to copy songs to two other Macintosh computers, programmers found a way to use the iTunes software to play and copy music through the Internet, developers said.
The Recording Industry Association of America, a trade group for the major labels, AOL Time Warner Inc. (NYSE:AOL - News), EMI Group Plc (London:EMI.L - News), Bertelsmann AG (BERT.UL), Vivendi Universal's (NYSE:V - News; Paris:EAUG.PA - News) Universal Music and Sony Corp. (Tokyo:6758.T - News), as well as the labels themselves declined comment. Apple had no immediate comment.
ISOLATED PROBLEM?
But several music industry executives said privately that the service's success outweighed the problem, which they saw at this point as fairly isolated.
"Apple is trying to launch a legitimate service but no solution is bulletproof. We also have a problem with several million unprotected masters sitting in the market right now and they are called CDs," said one music executive.
Prior to launching the service with licenses from all five major labels, Mac users could not use industry-backed services like Pressplay or MusicNet.
Los Gatos, California-based software engineer Rob Lockstone said he shut down his iTunes-based Web site (http://www.itunesdb.com) after just one week after stumbling across an application which allows users to download music from iTunes servers onto their local machines.
Lockstone said he was not contacted by Apple or any record companies, but felt compelled to act because his site was being used in a way he had not anticipated.
"I cannot, in good conscience, continue to provide a service which will facilitate the theft of copyrighted material," he said in a message on his Web site.
Lockstone told Reuters his site does not allow a user to directly download music and that he implemented a mechanism to prevent individual IP addresses or host names from being gathered from his site, but that users hacked his site to get access to the addresses.
"They would come to my site or another site and basically harvest the addresses and then tap into this other program to talk to the other iTunes server and hook up and copy MP3 files," he said.
Thanks Chowder......mucho graciace.......don't speak Spanish to well
Phreed Philo of the Nord
Hey Ray, I'd PM you, but I'm on Double Secret Probation and have to behave before I get my Grandfather status back. Hope you're doing well and maybe we'll chat tonight.
Phreed Philo of the Nord
Does anyone ever go to the Chat room?
Phreed Philo of the Nord
Same here Silver, however, I still have the nads. Your voice is still deep......that's a good sign, so maybe it was just a superficial wound.
Phreed Philo of the Nord
Putting in that employment opportunity probably spurned the interest. It's more than likely unemployed engineers who are buying as they hand in their resume to Robert. Showing him and Fred that 'THEY BELIEVE IN THE COMPANY'.........now if we could get the Brain trust to buy, this thing would really pop.
BWTXDIK
Phreed Philo of the Nord
Well, that's the first time that they've posted for help in a long while. Maybe the silence will become deafening......BWTFDIK
Phreed Philo of the Nord
Reuters
Music swappers willing to buy songs too - survey
Wednesday May 7, 7:56 pm ET
By Sue Zeidler
LOS ANGELES, May 7 (Reuters) - Offering some insight to the recording industry as it struggles to boost sales online, a survey released on Wednesday found that Web surfers who download music from song-swap sites are more likely to buy music online, as well as offline at retailers.
The research put rap music as the No. 1 genre purchased by online fans, which may help record companies gain a better understanding of who their online customers are.
The survey was based on 36,000 Internet users and released by Web tracker Nielsen//NetRatings, a unit of NetRatings Inc (NasdaqNM:NTRT - News).
It showed that nearly 31 million active Internet users aged 18 or older -- representing 22 percent of the active Internet universe -- downloaded music in the past 30 days, and 71 percent bought music in the past three months.
Nielsen//NetRatings said the research indicated that in the past three months, online music enthusiasts were 111 percent more likely to buy rap music than average Internet users.
Nielsen//NetRatings classified online music enthusiasts as users who had downloaded music in the past 30 days, whereas the average Internet users are people logging onto the Internet for surfing and other purposes.
Dance and club music ranked No. 2, with downloaders 106 percent more likely to have purchased dance and club music than the average Internet users during the last three months and 77 percent more likely to buy alternative rock.
R&B, soul music and rock rounded out the top five.
Greg Bloom, senior Internet analyst at Nielsen//NetRatings, said that understanding the preferences of online music enthusiasts may help recording executives in their attempts to successfully woo fans from the free swap, or peer-to-peer services, which let people get songs without authorization.
The major record labels, including AOL Time Warner Inc. (NYSE:AOL - News), EMI Group Plc (London:EMI.L - News), Bertelsmann AG (BERT.UL), Vivendi Universal's (Paris:EAUG.PA - News; NYSE:V - News) Universal Music and Sony Corp. (Tokyo:6758.T - News), blame the popularity of such free services as Kazaa and Morpheus for sharp declines in CD sales.
But other industry watchers argue that declining sales are the result of fewer hit albums being released and a weak economy.
"The de facto standard may be a few years away, but understanding the genres of music that sell well online and offline will be crucial to generating revenue along the way," Bloom said.
Chowder; it really wasn't that much off topic. It was talking about the battery problems associated with the Silhouette, just in a different "vehicle" if you get my drift. I will be more "on topic" in the future. However, I'm not the only one that drifts off topic. I would have PM'd this to you, but I don't have that capability YET. Anyway, thanks for your PM to me.
Phreed Philo of the Nord
Tech, yes they use the same battery as the Silhouette. Well, they use the same battery, but the cars have to pushed, pushed and then pushed again to get them going. Last I heard, Fred was still taking up the rear but really trying hard. He uses the little Radio Shack dump truck...........it's a little slower because of all the press releases and NDA's in the dump box. They take up alot of space and hinder the performance due to weight and aerodynamic problems. However, they are working on a firmware upgrade and it should be in place "soon"
Phreed Philo of the Nord
I hear those little Radio Shack remote controlled cars are the RAGE at Poway. They even have little stickers on them saying Powered by e.Digital Robert is leading in the points standing, Wendy is in second place, Antul is in third and charging and Fred is taking up the rear.
Vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooommmmmmmmm!!!
That could be why there hasn't been any news lately.....the competition is severe, demanding and very tough.
Phreed Philo of the Nord
Maybe they're piling up on RP's desk and we'll get waves of PR's, just like in the old days. Or perhaps all there is are those Non-disclosure things and they can't divulge anything. Or maybe, just maybe, they're too busy shipping O1000's and don't have time to tell us anything.
Or perhaps......................NOTHING is going on.
Has anyone called the Home Office lately? Are the lights still on? Dial tone? Cars in the parking lot, do they look like they have moved recently?
Just a little humor..........very little, but humor non-the-less
Phreed Philo of the Nord
Sentinel, if the sales price is $399 which it may or may not be, $2.00 only represents one half of one percent. So, maybe the $3.00 to $4.00 may be more in line, at one percent of the retail sales price...........BWTFDIK. Anything is better than nothing however.
Phreed Philo of the Nord
Crazy Joe, I hope you're right. There is a lot of things going on, Apple is doing an outstanding job getting iTunes up and running..........it would be nice to see something come out of the Home Office. Something positive and supportive of the company, BWTFDIK. Take care.........its warming up in the Nord.
Phreed Philo of the Nord
I like "We continue to receive royalty payments from them regularly." Better than a sharp tongue in the eye.
Phreed Philo of the Nord
You shouldn't take it as in insult, but as it was intended. As a caring observation, that perhaps you may or may not have a disorder that should be examined more carefully. I'm not a Doctor, although I do practice part time gynocology........I just dabble in it.
Philo
Cassy, that was an observation that I'm sure a lot of posters would agree with. Don't be a crybaby.
PHILO