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That made no sense at all. It has been several months since the last Q and nobody knows anything relevant about the $2.1 million prepaid asset. Anyone that says they do understand it is either an insider or confused.
By that logic, there is never a need for an 8k because it could be put in the financials. Sorry, but that explanation is too lame for even a beginner.
The 10q, will speak volumes if released and more if not released. 3 more days.
Can you give us evidence that the $2.1 prepaid asset did not need to be explained in an 8k
SOMEBODY KNOWS THAT EVERY UPTICK IN THIS STOCK PRICE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELL. SHARES. THAT IS NOT POSITIVE. DO NOT BE READY TO RUMBLE SOFT. STOP AAPT STOP.
Your dream is AAPT will manufacture in the u.s. With German money, then ship those products to Germany with the slogan "made in America". That will soon be the laughing stock of all case studies at non accredited freshman business classes everywhere.
WRONG. The giant companies that you compare AAPT to were all considered by the US government as "too big to fail" so you are wrong on the size issue.
On the no US funding question, if AAPT has a financing deal with foreign investors, they should disclose it with an 8k. They have not done that. Hey continue to operate outside the rules and more problems are headed their way, but chaise of their cheating.
Comparing AAPT to top 5 international commercial banks and finance companies is a farce. Compare the market caps, annual revenues, depth of management, attributes of BOD members, etc. there are no comparisons to a incompetently run dog food company. AAPT managements problems are their own creation, not a macro economic event.
I will not give the two clowns another cent and neither will the u,s. Investors. If you think things are going so well, then feel free to step op your purchases of pp shares.
Lol. Barry and Lisa patiently told me 65,000 shelves by 12/31/12 and their local Walmart is 140 miles from where they live. Then they asked for more PP money. They also guaranteed Barz at all 7900 walgreens, then they asked for more Pp money before the round closed in 2 weeks.
Nobody ever got fired for promising future results. Many many got fired for no achieving those results. Remove the two AAPT clowns.
Please speak knowledge and we will listen. AAPT investors have a right to know what is going on. It is called proper disclosure. That is what I speak of.
Millions of Nutrabars in fantasyland. That amount is not in the sales or inventory numbers. It is obviously another lie. Nobody believes it.
Hahaha. It's happening, there's not evidence that it is happening and no explanation of what might be happening, but we will see in the future that it it has happened. Sorry, but I do not accept that as an explanation.
With the margin decline, the break even point is much higher than $7.5 million, but I will not argue that point now. I wish to ask how, without dilution, will get enough cash to even get to $7.5 million sales. What type of vehicle is this mystery thing you call the pipeline? What are these other channels. The fact that no one has explained or defined them makes many people believe it is not real. It is like telling children the stork brings babies. At this point, I will temporarily hold off on issuing an opinion so you have an opportunity to explain the channels and pipelines you speak of.
AAPT turning a profit next year is like saying the Cubs will win the World Series.
The investors are the owners, not Barry n Lisa. The company owns the products, not Barry n Lisa, even if it was their idea. Funding is limited because Barry and Lisa paid themselves bonuses instead of buying advertising or putting the cash to better usage. Some people may say that advertising expenditures should not be made while the products are only at one store, but everyone will agree that bonuses was not the right thing to do. I personally believe that the limited funding is the result of Barry n Lisa's selfish decision making.
Consumer purchases will lead to more product placements. How will we get more consumer sales without advertising or some other consumer awareness program, while the funds are limited?
The increased level of respect in your post has been noticed.
This year will be Aapt's 8th as a public company. During these 8 years, the company has had 4 product launch cycles and the first 3 totally failed. The jury is still out on the current product cycle and we have long debated whether it will work this time or not. My point is that 8 years is a very long time to have a consistent losing record. I cannot find any coaching example in major U.S. Sports where a coach retained his job after 4 consecutive seasons of more losses than wins. I realize AAPT is not sport, but it is also not a start up company. It has had products on shelves previously with brief initial distribution to a small number of stores, the shelf presence was overstated by this management and limited marketing resulted in end consumers purchases and minimal store reorders, if any. I am not going to mention the negative margins, but these circumstances seem very similar to what is happening now. This management has had plenty of chances to get some wins, but another losing season should be expected.
Have a great weekend everyone.
Through all the losses, failures, incompetence and lies, management has remained constant. I have no reason to believe that anything will change in the future. Nothing happened recently that would make me think things are better to the point that massive dilution does not continue. have given the benefit of the doubt too long. Giving more doubt benefit only delays the inevitable. In European football, if your team was in last place for Ten straight years, would you want to change the coaches or the goaltender?
When sales increase quarter by quarter consistently, profits occur, gross margins become positive and increase over time, then my "obsessia" will diminish.
I also find it ironic that there is always a group of people that want to talk about next year and nothing else. I remember the people at were excited about last year and the year before that. 2014 could be a total bust and the same people will be excited about 2015.
There is an expression that "those that do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it". This company's past involves failed products, bogus consulting contracts, losses and mislead investors. I do not want the past of this Company repeated, and I will do everything I can to make sure that does not happen.
NOT happening. Just like the drugstore mentioned 8/29/12. "All American Pet Company, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: AAPT) -- Lisa Bershan, AAPT President, and Jim Colyer, VP Sales, recently met with the category buyers at one of the nation's fastest growing drugstore chains where it was decided that 4 of the new to the market All American Pet Brandsâ„¢ will be on shelf in more than 250 of its metro locations".
There were also no sales to $1.4 billion SSI, inc. and AAPT claims to have closed that account in 2012.
AAPT does not tell the truth. DO NOT believe this management.
AAPT will not gain as much as Nestle and the giants that already have national distribution and brand recognition as well as quality managements and cash to execute.
I love my job as an investment analyst specializing in pet food penny stocks. AAPT is one of the stocks I cover. Lol
Walmart pulled those same two brands of dog treats in June 2012. dog treats are different from dog food, which brings up a marketing dilemma not previously addressed. Most pet retailers have food and treat categories. Barz are a new category. Where do the retailers display Barz? On which shelf? Do not you agree that consumer awareness campaigns were more important than bonuses?
I concentrated on Walmart and I have only seen Barz in one of nine Walmarts where I shopped. The Albertsons test order is only $12,000, and there is no consumer awareness plan to sell the items. Management previously stole all the marketing money, and there is no budget for future advertising. I am focusing on the future and 2014, but it looks like sales will be a low 6 figure amount a dilution will be a mid 7 figure amount if this POS were to stay afloat.
Those product recalls were in the past. Who said the past doesn't matter? Why comment on the past if it doesn't matter.
Only Schwartz/Bershan get paid in advance. All others get paid late or not at all, especially if you are an employee, vendor, or taxing agency. I think his wages are past due and he either left or cut down his hours.
PP money goes to B&L personal account and it is spent on their lavish luxuries. It is a write off as soon as they get their greedy hands on it.
Some heard he left, some heard he is only part time. Most heard he has unpaid wages like all the employees before him. Others believe he is still working at the company. Nobody claims to have spoken to him recently and he has not written a recent desk letter. Nobody claims to have seen an email from him recently either. One would think that he would put out an email or something to quell the concerns, but in the typical AAPT arrogant way, they do nothing. If the q report is late, we will have some valid info about his status.
CORRECT!! Blame anyone but B&L. No problem was ever their fault. Don't believe it? Just ask them if any problem or bad result was their responsibility.
Why is it not "the buck stop here?" It's because Barry saw a buck on the floor and he immediately put it in his pocket instead of asking anyone if they dropped it.
Wrong. Measly $20k sales and never at circle K. Not "selling like crazy" in my opinion. When/if the new numbers come out, many will be feeling the pain of the truth.
1week until 3q numbers are expected. I can't wait to se the excuses for bad sales and an inability to cover fixed manufacturing costs. I wonder if we will get visibility to the Walmart return numbers, the latest ppm price and the services that get expensed against the $2.1 million prepaid ass et . Maybe we might see how much bonus was taken before the bonuses freeze after the forming machine debacle. This is going to be interesting.
Can you provided the names of the stores that have bars in stock now.
When the news is faked, exaggerated, or misleading I will say so. if the news is true, I will embrace it. As an investor, I want management to take care of investors before they take care of themselves.
I am not surprised my offer to up the quality of discusion was not accepted. a few other aapt's have recently accepted and we have had mutual respect.
By the way, If you want to influence the stock price, bid up the price with a buy order. Nothing that happens here will matter. Asl, the 3q numbers will be bad no matter what you or I say about them on any forum.
5 stores had bars then. How many have them now. This is what I am tring to figure out . Please give me the 5 store locations to verify and monitor the sales.
Where are the Nutrabars? I have been to 9 different walmarts and I found Barz in only one store, just 2 boxes. Joel told me that Nutrabars were in 1400 walmarts. Since there are 4100 walmarts, about one in 3 should have Nutrabars if that were true. One in nine, as I have found, is either a statistical anomaly or the company's reports are exaggerated.
I looked on the national database for Nutrabars at tractor supply and did not find them. Joel posted that Nutrabars are being sold at a unknown Tractor supply location. Although Joel did not know the location, he claimed to know that they were selling well. I find the information he gave to be unreliable.
When the 2q results became known, management blamed the lack of revenue on an inability to ship due to a broken machine. During the time they claimed they could not ship products to customers, they gave away products and free samples. Nobody understands why they had product to give away, but not ship.
There are many stories like this and they all center around the management. In order to right the ship and get the stock price up, this husband and wife management team needs to go. I want you to make money on your investment as I do, but the only way to make that happen is to bring in better operators.
No proof. Preaching the AAPT religion requires faith and not fact. I made an error using the store locator and then I promptly admitted to my mistake. I have not told any lies, just provided facts that some do not care to hear.
Thank you for inviting me back to this site. I am happy to stay here regularly if it suits you. I am also willing to maturely and seriously debate topics with you.
I really do want AAPT stock to go up. We might differ in our opinions about how to make that happen. If you want to discuss things like adults, I am in. I will keep the conversation as professional or unprofessional as you do.
The REALTRUTH about Albertsons product sourcing. I took a late lunch and went to an Albertsons near my office to pick up a few items. I did not see Nutrabars or Chewies in the isle. I asked an employee stocking items on the next isle if she knew about Nutrabars or Chewies. she said no and asked another stock clerk who asked another stock clerk, then they got the manager to come over. the manager, a woman in her late 50's, had not heard about Nutrabars or Chewies. The first stock clerk googled them on her phone and showed images to the manager. The manager was sure she had not heard of either item before. The manager then said that the pet section was "reset" less than two weeks ago. I asked what reset meant and she said it means the inventory offered is fixed for several weeks. I asked if she could access a database to see if bars or Chewies were on order. She said that Albertsons does not have such a database. I then asked her if they get advance notice about new products. She said the distribution center just sends them products and they then "reset" the section to accommodate those products.
I do not doubt that AAPT got a $12,000 test order from Albertsons, but I am seriously doubting the fake claims that store managers get advanced notice about new products, and that a store manager has advanced notice of consumer reactions or knows that every Albertsons will be carrying AAPT products.
I have no problem with differing opinions. I have big issues with people that do not tell the truth and try to mislead others for their personal financial gain.
I encourage those who have access to an Albertsons to go ask about bars and Chewies and I guaranty that your results will be similar to my report and not the other report with the visibly false data.
I was wrong on Arizona. 29 stores near Phoenix, but Zero stores in Kingman. I am willing to admit when I am wrong because I believe these postings should be honest and I practice that policy.
AGREED. NEGATIVE CREDIBILITY. SMART investors know that claims of WWWAAAAAYYYYY up are bogus and made to deceive investors. Get a bungalow for the price of a skyscraper too. HEHEHE.
FAKED AGAIN.