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Ok Lance, you're a sharp cookie....follow me on this.
Hypothetical...our-street shorts before they release one of their publications in anticipation of the share price declining based on the negative report.
Pumper.... takes a long position and then proceeds to hit radio shows, emails, tv and whatever else he has to do to promote the company.
Both are seeking to profit from their activities..just in different directions.
For whatever reason, the pumper's methods seem to be more socially acceptable, politically correct...or something.
BUT, what most fail to mention and conveniently overlook is a very basic fact that has HUGE consequences.
Think for a second Lance....where does our-street get their information?
Where does Mr. Pumper get his information.
Our-street gathers ALREADY PUBLIC information, puts it in a comprehensible format and distributes what is ALREADY publicly available IF you know how and where to look for it. The point is...anybody has access to that info...it's ALREADY PUBLIC. They make phone calls and talk to people...you could too if you wanted to take the time.
Now, where does Mr. Pumper get his info? From the company or some other insider. How many times have we seen.."rumor of news tomorrow"..blah, blah. Even if the pumper does not know the precise language of the news, he is still privy to a material event that may affect the price of the stock. The difference is, THE PUBLIC AT LARGE DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME ACCESS TO THIS INFO AS MR. PUMPER DOES.
Personally, I have absolutely no problem with our-street or any other scam busting newsletter profiting from their efforts. If you have ever done the kind of DD it requires to put together one of those letters, you would understand. Why shouldn't they profit? And, keep in mind, all they are doing is gathering, organizing and presenting what is ALREADY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.
Hey Lance....I have not forgotten you. Just been very busy. This is the first chance I have had to read the thread in two or three days now. Thank God this is not RB, I would be sitting here for two days trying to get through the posts.
Dead tired....but wanted to let you know I have not forgotten you !!!
hmm, the Hussein boys...was that a f/s or r/s...got two for the price of one...roflmao
I'd say their sheets were pink....roflmao...roflmao
They were going to include assassinations in the new futures market too....
the higher the price, the more likely the incident..
I'm going long on Scott....roflmao, roflmao
gonna short Bin Laden..they won't even find that loony in some cave.
what happens if someone commits suicide...does it get halted.
What if they are taken out...like the Hussein brothers, do they get delisted, halted?
New Terrorism Futures...
Critics blasted policy-makers Tuesday for dropping a controversial plan to create a futures market to help predict terrorist strikes.
Legislators like Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) may have found the Pentagon's Policy Analysis Market, or PAM, "grotesque." But proponents of "idea markets" say PAM's quicksilver cancellation will rob the country's intelligence agencies of a tool with a strong history of accurately predicting future events.
It's a decision that's "pure political," said Bill Adkins, with Neoteric Technologies, which has a Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or Darpa, grant to design markets trading on the future of hybrid electric vehicles and the spread of SARS.
Senators expressed concerns when they discovered the PAM project, an effort to speculate on possible events in the Middle East -- like the overthrow of Jordan's monarchy or the assassination of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat -- as if they were stocks. The higher the price, the theory goes, the more likely the incident.
"The idea of a federal betting parlor on atrocities and terrorism is ridiculous and it's grotesque," fumed Wyden.
The fact that PAM came from Darpa's Information Awareness Office, the group of minds behind the notoriously invasive Terrorism Information Awareness database project, made the trading floor effort seem even more distasteful.
A day after Wyden and Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.) held a press conference blasting the program, the Pentagon agreed to drop PAM.
But supporters of the project point out that gathering intelligence is often a messy business, with payoffs to unsavory characters and the elimination of potential adversaries. The futures market, ugly as it may sound, doesn't involve any of those moral compromises, said Robin Hanson, one of the earlier promoters of the concept of trading floors for ideas and a PAM project contributor. It's just a way of capturing people's collective wisdom.
"Among the many things we do for intelligence, this is one of the least reprehensible," Hanson said. "Paying people to tell us about bad things. That's intrinsic to the intelligence process."
And a trading floor could be more effective than paying off a snitch.
Projects similar to PAM, like the Iowa Electronic Markets, which speculate on election results, have been surprisingly reliable indicators of what's going to happen next.
The Iowa market hasn't been perfect -- it forecast a Democrat-controlled Senate in 2002. But over the course of 14 elections, the Iowa Electronic Markets' stock prices were on average a half of a percentage point closer to the results of the actual political races than the final polls were.
The price of orange juice futures has even been shown to accurately predict the weather, noted David Pennock, a senior research scientist at Overture Services who has done extensive surveys on the reliability of such markets.
Traders on the Hollywood Stock Exchange last year correctly picked 35 of the 40 Oscar nominees in the eight biggest categories, according to The New Yorker magazine.
Story continued on Page 2 »
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,59818,00.html
oh boy Lance, I can't wait to hear how he imitates the scratching (or readjusting...or whatever it is they do with their privates) and butt smacking thing those jocks do...roflmao
LaFem, I just shot him a PM and told him he inspired me. My desktop disappeared completely about 3 months ago. I spent the entire day opening mail, making stacks, tossing garbage...found a couple forks and plates (wondered where they all went)and finally ended up with a stack about 2 feet high that needs to be filed....but...I CAN SEE MY DESKTOP, yippeeee...lol.
SSP, for what it's worth, I'm glad to see you made the move. Much cleaner and more professional board. Glad to see it. Smart move.
Toodles
omg...not at all. Hmm, I guess you would fall out of your chair if you saw mine...roflmao
omni, why is your desk so clean?
GEEZ, get the bleach, there's some laundry to be done there.
LOL, that's not nice...funny, but not nice...lol
Don't know, why don't you ask Joe Lanza and Richard Marchese...or even Scott. One of those three..or maybe the Feds might know.
LOL...eom
Capt_Nemo, the article I posted was in reference to a lawsuit filed by the former landlords for GECC.
GECC filed a suit against the "bashers" and I was one of the parties named in the suit. Today (well yesterday now, considering the time), the Judge in our case handed down the following Order:
7/25/03 79 ORDER by Honorable Jimm L. Hendren granting motion to
dismiss 2nd amd cmplt [72-1], finding the motion to dismiss
[47-1] moot. dismissing case. Further that pltf's claims
against Hohenhouse, Wilding, Cummings, Wood, Terra Networks
and John Doe #1 be dismissed. (cc: all counsel) (ct)
[Entry date 07/25/03]
I'd say GECC is getting their arses kicked !!!
Regards,
Carla Hohenhouse
Capt_Nemo, here is the article in its entirety
Golf Entertainment Tells Judge It's ‘Out of Business'
By Northwest Arkansas Business Journal staff
Arkansasbusiness.com Daily Report - 7/24/03 11:59:38 AM
John Dodge, the general counsel for Golf Entertainment Inc. of Springdale, told Washington County Circuit Judge Kim Smith on Thursday that his company is "out of business."
"Your honor, one of the reasons the company went out of business was a stock-manipulation fraud," Dodge told the judge.
Golf, the embattled former Springdale broadcasting company, has alleged a mass conspiracy by several unrelated groups to manipulate its stock price over the last year or so.
Irregularities in the way Golf issued its stock prompted the Arkansas Securities Department to issue a cease-and-desist order to stop the sale or purchase of Golf's stock in Arkansas.
As a result, Golf has counterattacked by suing everyone from its landlord to the Securities Department. Mel Robinson, a trustee of Golf's largest shareholder, an entity called the Genesis Trust, also sued Arkansas Business Publishing Group, which owns arkansasbusiness.com, claiming he was libeled by articles describing questionable business dealings by Golf and Genesis Trust.
Dodge and Jim Bolt, chief operating officer of Golf, are among the defendants in a federal lawsuit filed by Arkansas Business Limited Partnership, which operates Arkansas Business Publishing Group.
Smith gave Dodge until Aug. 8 to register Golf with the Secretary of State's office to do business in Arkansas or a lawsuit Golf has against its former landlord will likely be thrown out of court.
Arkansas law says a company can't "maintain a proceeding" in court unless it is registered to do business in the state. To register, however, Golf must have a certificate of good standing from Delaware, where the company was initially incorporated, said Anglea Berkowitz, attorney for Cypress Investments Inc., which is suing and being sued by Golf.
Cypress, Golf's former landlord at 1008 S. Clayton St. in Springdale, says Golf owes more than $10,000 for back rent and attorney's fees.
Golf countersued, claiming Cypress crippled its business by placing a for-lease sign outside the building while Golf was still there and eventually evicting Golf from the property.
Golf alleges Cypress, too, was trying to manipulate Golf's stock price. Golf is suing Cypress for $750,000 for "market capitalization losses," $6,000 for "interference with business opportunities," $3,500 for loss of capital improvements, and unspecified punitive damages.
Cypress filed an eviction complaint against Golf on Aug. 21, 2002. Cypress consists of Robin and Tom Lundstrum of Springdale.
hmm, BEAV, that one sounds like a man's job to me...lol
BB, roflmao, your signature and that post...perfect.
Looks like one of those early a.m. volume pushes to jump start news.
SEIE on scan
What???? I was just getting started...roflmao.
Nuff said, I'm quite sure they got the message...lol
CHESTERTOWN, Md. (July 22) - A roommate was arrested Monday on charges of murdering college basketball player Patrick Dennehy, who disappeared a month ago and whose body has never been found, authorities said.
The warrant naming Carlton Dotson was issued by police in Waco, Texas, where both men attended Baylor University, Chestertown Police Chief Walter Coryell said.
Leaving a court appearance Monday night, Dotson told a reporter: ''I didn't confess to anything. Call the FBI.'' Shortly after his arrest, Dotson had referred all questions to his lawyer.
Dotson's attorney, Grady Irvin Jr., said in a telephone interview that he had last spoken with his client over the weekend. He would not say what they discussed.
''It is most unfortunate that police have come to the conclusion that there is a death,'' Irvin said. ''I am uncertain as to how they came to that conclusion, that Patrick Dennehy is now dead.''
Sgt. Ryan Holt, a Waco police spokesman, told The Dallas Morning News that Dotson confessed to killing Dennehy and described a location where Dennehy's body might be found. He told the newspaper that police were searching that location Monday night, but declined to elaborate.
Two officers escorted Dotson, in handcuffs, into the police station about 9:20 p.m. He emerged about 15 minutes later with Coryell, another officer and an FBI agent.
The 21-year-old Dotson was fingerprinted and processed at the police department, Coryell said. He was then taken to the Kent County court commissioner's office, where he was ordered held without bond at the county jail.
Dotson will have another hearing Tuesday. If he waives extradition, he will be returned to Texas, the chief said.
Coryell said Dotson was in Chestertown, about 55 miles from his hometown of Hurlock, on Sunday when he called police from a grocery store.
''He said he needed help,'' Coryell said. ''We took him to the hospital for an evaluation. During his stay there he contacted the FBI.''
The police chief said Dotson stayed overnight at a Chestertown hospital, then left early Monday afternoon with FBI agents.
Dotson was interviewed by the FBI and ''as a result of that interview, this warrant has been issued,'' the chief said. He declined to elaborate on Dotson's statement and calls to the FBI were not immediately returned.
''I don't know if the arrest warrant is based on statements he (Dotson) made or information gathered through law enforcement agencies and their investigations,'' Irvin said.
Irvin, of St. Petersburg, Fla., said he would probably arrive Tuesday in Baltimore and travel to Chestertown to meet with Dotson.
Holt said in a statement that Dotson contacted authorities in Maryland and said he wanted to talk to the FBI about Dennehy's disappearance. He said his department would not comment further until a news conference Tuesday afternoon in Waco.
Last Thursday, Dotson voluntarily went to the Dorchester County sheriff's office near Hurlock to make a statement about Dennehy's disappearance. He was never in custody and was not arrested.
Waco police declined to discuss what Dotson told authorities last week, saying only that it did not change the course of their investigation.
Dotson returned home to Maryland last month. A woman who answered the door at the home in Hurlock that Dotson shares with his great-grandparents said the couple had gone to bed. When told by a reporter Dotson had been charged with murder, she said ''you know more than we know'' before closing the door.
Dennehy's girlfriend, Jessica De La Rosa, choked back tears Monday night after she learned Dotson was charged with killing Dennehy.
''I was really, truly hoping in my heart that he was alive somewhere out there,'' said De La Rosa, 20, of Albuquerque, N.M. ''I was hoping maybe he'd be hiding.''
''Carlton was lucky enough to have known Patrick and let Patrick take him under his wing, give him a place to live and this is how Patrick was repaid,'' Brian Brabazon, Dennehy's stepfather said in an interview with KWTX-TV of Waco.
Baylor Athletic Director Tom Stanton issued a statement saying, ''We are struggling to find the right words and actions that would ease the pain of everyone connected to Patrick. ... There are no words to describe our grief or our feelings right now.''
Dennehy's Chevrolet Tahoe was found June 25 in a strip mall parking lot in Virginia Beach, Va., where he had no apparent connections.
Authorities said Friday they were trying to determine if a 9mm handgun found Thursday at a Waco apartment complex near Baylor was related to Dennehy's disappearance.
According to an earlier search warrant affidavit, an unidentified informant reported to Delaware authorities that Dotson told a cousin he shot Dennehy as the two argued while shooting 9mm guns in the Waco area.
Friends of Dennehy's say he told them that he and Dotson were being threatened and that the pair obtained guns. The family of Dennehy, who grew up in the San Francisco area, also claimed the 6-foot-10, 230-pound forward told coaches he feared for his life.
Baylor head coach Dave Bliss has repeatedly said he and his staff were not aware of any threats.
Dotson lost his basketball scholarship this spring and was not expected to play at Baylor next season.
Oh yeah...real effective. Wanna be dog with fleas.
Hey Boat Captain...better take your phone off the hook. The little boy is going to call you crying anytime now.
Waaaaaaaaa, help me, help me...I've been kidnapped...for the 10th time...roflmao
or this one...
By: chohenhous
21 Jan 2002, 11:10 AM EST Msg. 36 of 792
(This msg. is a reply to 35 by gwennlett.)
Jump to msg. #
Gwennlett, yes, one in the same. Metals = Speedy = Scott Wilding.
Why would a company give him shares? That's a good question since every promotion he does just tanks. He convinces the company that he can do wonders for them, charges an outrageous amount of shares to promote the company and then promptly dumps his shares.
In the meantime he is running around in chat rooms bragging to everybody that he got a "gazillion" shares and that he gets paid to merely say "weeeeeeeeeeee" "whaaaaaaaaaaaat". Nothing worthwhile about the company. Not to mention his disclosure is severely lacking. And now, he seems to be under the mistaken impression that everybody works for him and that he has Taki and A&P under his control as well.
I think it's time the CEO's of these companies know what a mockery he is making of them, the company and the shareholders.
Those of us that have been around for a while are all too familiar with his games and we never play any of his stocks anyway.
It's really pretty pathetic. Here's a young man, with a substance abuse problem. Several of us have tried to take him under our wing and help him. He has now let this moral support go to his head with illusions that everybody works for him or that he controls everybody.
There are plenty of other people out there that would love to be able to come on these boards and say the things that I am saying. But, because of his threats against them, they are fearful. I have nothing to fear from him so I am saying it.
Let me tell you Scotty. I got your IM and here is my response...since I KNOW you read this board.
Let me make one thing perfectly clear, wanna be spooks with warrants out for their arrest, don't intimidate me.
Pender and his money laundering buddies out of the Bahama's don't intimidate me either. Still a warrant on his head too? How's the bar?
Boat Captains sure as hell don't intimidate me.
Take that to the Korean wife....
We should do like the guys do with all their sports talk and just take over the board discussing women's issues...roflmao. Wouldn't they freak...rotslmao...lol.
That TRAITOR !!!!!
I don't care what anybody says...I have only been with three and I was either engaged or married to them at the time...AND, I most certainly would never even consider doing the unmentionable at the end of that article...
Ha, how dare they even insinuate any differently about women.
Excitement?
Men And Women Are From Mars
Women's Libido Just as Strong as Men's
By Jeanie Lerche Davis
WebMD Medical News Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario, MD
on Monday, July 07, 2003
July 7, 2003 -- Forget Venus, we're all trying to land on Mars. Men and women might not be as far apart in libido and sexual behaviors as we once thought.
A new study, appearing in The Journal of Sex Research, takes a close look at this ever-fascinating topic -- men's and women's attitudes and actions regarding sex. Are social expectations and attitudes squelching women's natural sex drive, her libido?
In fact, most accounts about women's attitudes on sex should be viewed with skepticism, writes researcher Terri Fisher, PhD, a psychology professor at Ohio State University in Mansfield, Ohio.
"Women are sensitive to social expectations for their sexual behavior and may be less than totally honest when asked about their behavior in some survey conditions," she says in a news release.
The Sex Surveys
In her study, Fisher sifted through questionnaires completed by 201 unmarried, heterosexual college students -- 96 men, 105 women.
The students were separated into three groups. All were instructed to complete a questionnaire about their sexual attitudes, sexual experience and behavior, and the age at which they first had sexual intercourse.
Group one filled out the questionnaires while hooked up to a traditional polygraph "lie detector," and were told it could detect any dishonesty about their answers. (However, they weren't told that the old polygraph machine didn't really work.)
Each member of group two filled out the surveys alone in a room, and were told their answers would be completely anonymous.
Group three completed their surveys alone in a room, but with the researcher sitting right outside the testing room, with the door open. They were told the researcher might see their responses.
Truth or Consequences
When the answers were tabulated, it was clear -- social pressures won out. When women thought others might see their answers, they gave answers that were more socially acceptable. Women hooked up to the lie detector gave the most honest answers, reports Fisher.
The evidence: Women reported an average of 2.6 sexual partners if they thought others would see their answers. They reported an average of 4.4 partners if they were assured anonymity. Women who had privacy during testing -- but were not attached to the lie detector -- reported an average of 3.4 partners.
On the men's side, the answers didn't vary much. The "polygraph men" reported an average of 4.0 partners; the other men reported 3.7 partners.
"Women appear to feel pressure to adhere to sex role expectations" -- to be more relationship-oriented and not promiscuous, says Fisher.
However, only the women's attitudes were different from men's -- not their actual sexual behavior or libido. The pattern was clearest for behaviors considered less acceptable for women than men -- like masturbation and enjoying erotica, she adds.
Look Rocket, I have no beef with you. Have been following your posts for a while. If you want to post a momo play, swing trade or even a potential short...great...would love to have you post here. But, if you are merely going to assist in the dissemination of materially false information, we would appreciate it if you would refrain from posting here.
We would also appreciate it if you would include a 17(b) disclosure on any you have received or anticipate receiving any form of payment on.
Thank you for your consideration.
chohenhous
Fine, then post it as a momo play...but don't disseminate materially false information in an effort to artificially inflate the price of the stock. Oh, and while you're (notice the spelling) at it, how about putting a 17(b) disclosure.
oh goodie, another one that is so uneducated he doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
Rocketred...looks to me like IDTS is the dump, minus the pump for the coming week.
Would you care to explain to this board and the readers why it is that CVS Corporate Legal Department has never heard of IDTS?
Yes, the coming week should prove to be very interesting for you and IDTS.
Have a nice day.
instigator...lmao
OMG, Lance...do you really need to encourage him. I can hear it now...
"But honey, we have to have sex at least once a day, surely you don't want me to get prostrate cancer, do you?"
Oh and let me guess...for those that have not had sex at least "once a day since the age of 20", they will be trying to make up for it by having sex 5 times a day.
This study had to have been conducted and written by a MAN
Man o man...thanks alot Lance !!!
yeh sihr masta, yeh sihr...
EFLT, looks like the pump machine is on
ha ha ha, YOU can't even control Scad, what makes you think he can?? roflmao