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Ya know what;s funny ta me?
That you're just clueless enough to hook up with known felons that are skimmin shares behind your back and that it's more important for you to defend a bad decision than face the truth. As an agent for the HLNT you should be a lot more concerned about your liability now that you know the game bein played on shareholders and those who purchse that over priced hho unit from you. Ya have problems comin your way kid, wake up.
I have no idea what companies they are in tiuch with .
Only that their focus is EPA/CARB approval to sell the engine. I suspect there are many watchin to see if and when that approval and cert. happens.
Test me Sparky.
Use your PACER account and post the Foster v Humphries complaint along with the two Ex. A&B. Pick whichever one ya want as original. Compare the Complaint and the Foster bankruptcy assets and then let's talk. We'll allow readers to come to their own conclusion. I've come to the accurate one long ago. Longer than you may think. After we do this examination we can do the preferred share raping of the HLNT shareholders one again. Ya up for that buddy? Post your docs that cast doubt on what I;ve posted. It's your turn now and I don't think I'll be seein any docs comin from you.
It'd actually called.
Being In Decent.
That would be true if it were true.
It isn't. Everythin I posted is backed by fact. If ya have some specific example, post it. Don't waste my time with your usual inability to comprehend what you read. Your problem is you're tyin to defend a scam and those that are responsible. That's gonna be a losin battle for ya.
Link to engine test lab
http://ecologiclabs.com/
Bob, I forgot ta ask.
Your contacts sound like attorneys.
who do they rep in Detroit?
Bob.
I know the motor is good. Very good. That's an opinion based on a lotta background and technological investigation. The key is lettin the rest or the world in on it. That needs to be done with the EPA test lab emissions numbers verification. Like many others I'm waitin for that any day now. I'll be happy ta pass on any solid contact info.
Sure the bank account was mentioned in the suit.
It was the focus of the suit. The dispute is not that the hidden from the bk court account existed. The dispute is that the signed document said Humphries was to have perpetual management duties. Another Exhibit was also presented in the suit. The second EX B was to end the Humphries management duties in Nov. 2010. This month. Ex B had no signatures. The docs were witnessed by Mel Robinson. Logic would say that the perpetual account was the actual original. It appears the account was opened and managed by Humphries in order to hide those funds from the Foster bk. Logic also leads me to believe that there was a handshake deal to get the money in the account back to Foster once the bk was final. I believe that once the boys turned on Humphries all handshake help for foster went out the window. I wasn't part of the scam so I really know no more details that the case provides. So far there is no answer from Humphries. In fairness I'll add this, EX A the signed agreement that gave Humphries perpetual management looks like the section in question is in a lighter print than the rest of the doc. However EX B has no signatures and by the terms stated would make the funds a Foster asset that was not stated in his bk docs. There is no logical reason for Foster to have Humphries manage his bank account forever unless for bk purposes. The docs are pdf docs so I was unable to cut and paste. Don't you have a PACER account? They're free and you pay like 6 cents a page for docs.
The technology.
I have and do evaluate various technologies.
I own no stock. I have friends that do.
ListenTM.
I should get interestin. Don't worry about the PM dude. they don't bother me. I just can't answer withe the limited free account functions. I don't know much about the CDM control question. NIR ahs taken control of several p7d companies that folded up the snake oil tent. They just put in a selecte CEO and ramp the share conversion belt up ta top speed. The clause you mentioned on other funding is virtually uninforceable in court. I've nrver heard of it being a bone of contention with any NIR funded co. that received funds from another source. I'm waitin on the shortin claims to work through the system.ou can bet the farm that that issue has NIR panties in a wad.
Loanguy.
As a moderator on the mentioned HLNT board you've become quite interested in ECMH. Is it the public information facts I'm postin or the competition that bothers ya?
Listeta me on this.
If that's proven do you have any idea what it would mean to NIR? All of the NIR notes I've been able to examine had a no shorting clause that was agreed upon by all parties. If NIR has breached that agreement not note with that clause will be enforecable. NIR would be done as a hedge fund.
Rotaryguy.
Both you and i go back a long way with the ECMH technology and people in charege. You more so as an investor funder and me as an evaulator of thr technologies potential. We both have seen 100's of millions put into the rotary engine R&D. The ECMH roatry assets link all the way back to Curtiss Wright. We also watched the last CEO try to give all of the technology being developed to a Chinese Company. The present guys removed him and those that brought him in. Then they had to deal with all that these morons did, keep the company going and finish the technology develpment. They did that without pullin any money for themselves outta the company. They returned shares to help at their own expense. You and I have watched it all happen. They have worked with NIR to satify loans started a new data center and now have the engine in for final EPA/CARB approval. That is the EVENT i've been waitin for.
As I'm sure you've noticed, those that get cleaned out tend to come back with false claims. I'm all for that because it gives us the chance to show what's really gone down and who's been the group lookin out for shareholders. We also have posters from another board dealin with hydrogen gas as a fuel. That's one of my evaluated fuels and technologies. Ever since hho has become a buzz word several scam companies run by those going to prison of just coming out have popped up as pink sheet scams. I've pointed out the scams in great detail with accurate facts. Since I post here they seem to think their best bet to get back at me is to try to diss ECMH and it's present Directors. Again that means nothing to me except as an opportunity to show the true facts. You also know and post those facts. I'm also encouragin ECMH to get into the hho fuel at a deeper level. They know that technology better than any and will be honest with the results. I don't believe there's an OTC company goin that has technology with even close to the potential of ECMH. I'm sure when you invested you got the run down on the engine market share avaiable as well as the intense military interest. I always look forward to your posts as a dude that has been there from the start and knows the potential and people involved.
This may nhelp you understand Sparky.
The link below is a good example of the games other directors play unlike ECMH. The example company Highline HLNT has issued their directors preferred A stock for voting control and preferred B 100 million shares that converty 1 for 10 to common tradable shares also to themselves. Note that they can increase this anytime they want and have several times this year. The origial increase also describes that tghese shares are totally unreported to the public. A total scam.
On the other hand the ECMH directors returned 100 million shares that they had received in payment for rotary engine assets. They retired those shares and returned them to the company. As they did they retained their votin control with non convertable votin shares. They gave up the shares that they could turn into money for shares to protect the company and compant assets. Unlike the HLNT example they have not hide any transactions or share distribution that is aimed to enrich directors. Also unlike HLNT the ECMH directors got rid of convicted felons in order to clean up and protect the company. The HLNT directors were appointed by a convicted felon who is on their board today and is receiving the shares described in the link above.
http://www.sos.idaho.gov/tiffpilot/tiffpilot.exe?FN=\\sosimg\corp$/%5C20100927%5CCORPAMEN10270105445.tif
It states exactly what rights the preferred B shares has. Voting only. Do you see any other rights. Tickets to Disneyland, AARP card or maybe free car wash and wax? Nope, there are none. Just votes so quit makin a fool of youself while it's still early. Maybe go over to the Hydrogen board and try to understand those I posted for ya.
Look over this Foster bk again Sparky.
When you find the managed account let me know. I did say they were playing games then and really have ramped them up since. Now Foster and robinson just create new preferred shares that convert 1 for 10 common and when those run out they create more. 4x since April of this year. They also don't report or account in the OS foe those shares. Read that doc too. Idaho Sec. of state is the place to find it pal. i CALL IT ALL GAMES,WHAT WOULD YOU CALL IT? cREATIVE THEFT?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2194391/Charles%20Lee%20Foster%202010%20BK.pdf
No games?
Nice try dude. They opened a special account in Fosters name for money comin out of SSEV which is now HLNT. Then the put Humphries in as the admunustrator of the account. Then Foster file for bankrupycy and didn't list his account and SSEV funds as assets. Quit blowin smoke and read the docs I posted. It's all there if you can understand the words. So far you either can't or choose not to.
This is from your post. read it.
Notice the last sentence from YOUR post.
"Effective April 12, 2010, pursuant to authority under the Company’s Articles of Incorporation, the Board of Directors completed a reorganization of the Company’s capital stock by creating two classes of Common Stock. The Company’s authorized Common Stock will now consist of 749,985,000 shares of Class A Common Stock and 15,000 shares of Class B Common Stock. The Class B Common Stock will have special voting rights. If at least one share of Class B Common Stock is issued and outstanding, then the aggregate of all Class B Common Stock, regardless of their number, shall have voting rights equal to 66.67% of the total shares of all classes of Common Stock and Preferred Stock issued and outstanding at the time of any vote of shareholders.
Each share of Class B Common Stock will have voting rights equal to 66.67% of the total shares of all classes of Common Stock and Preferred Stock issued and outstanding at the time of any vote of shareholders, divided by the number of shares of Class B Common Stock issued and outstanding at the time of any vote of shareholders.
The voting rights of the Company’s Class A Common Stock have not been changed.
The Class B Common Stock will not be publically traded"
That's a good one giveit2me.
S.F. is full of good lawyers. Be about $450.00 an hour min. With your concerns I think you should retain one right away. Put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. I'd love to follow that case. Let us all know when you file and the case # so we can discuss it here on Ihub.
Which facts josey?
The old ECMH notes that were reported or the HLNT 1 billion director shares hidden from the public shares?
Sparky wrong again pal.
All shares have been affected by the June R/S. Email the company and ask like I did. Now there is a voting only class that can't be converted even though it's only 1000 shares. Vote only Sparky, get it? No possible monitary gain for the directors at the expense of shareholders. Unlike the scenario at your other company where they have a billion common share position for directors. The option to convert at any time anf hide those transactions from shareholders. That's the facts pal. I'm all for the facts to be public. You seem to want to defend a scam while makin up ECMH scenarios. It won't fly cause the ECMH dudes aren't tryin ta play the games the other company is.
Yes new mgmt has old debt to deal with or did.
Every old note you posted was due before now. Looks like they've been paid or renegotiated by the new directors. It's called dealin with the past. That's what these dudes have been doin for 3 years. Now the engine is in EPA test labs and we're about to confirm the technology they've also been workin on. Remember where those notes originated dude? The guys that were removed for cause.
It's all about accurate facts giveit2me.
You don't have any and when they are posted you try ta hide em. Get specific dude and post the false claims like we do. Ya wanna talk facts we'll talk facts and always have.
Interestin take downsideup and I agree.
I've been postin on intent to deceive on another board about another company. You might wanna give that one a look if this stuff interests ya. In the case I'm lookin at which does relate to ECMH because of Hydrogen fuel and convertable note to scam is as follows. The company in question has no active sub companies despite what the PR. The company directors were assigned their position by a convicted felon with a long history of scam investigations and claims. It's a long story and you can read my cut and pasted proof on the Hydrogen Gas board. What they did is amend company bi-laws and increase the preferred share count on four occasions this year alone. They now have a class of preferred that go to directors only. 100 million preferred shares. These shares convert at any time to 10 common (sellable) shares for every 1 preferred share held. The even more blatant part is this. These same directors voted in the following. These shares will not show up as part of the AS even after conversion. So as these directors convert in secrecy they also are not reveled by an increase in the AS or OS. Therefor shareholders and new investors lookin at the company have no clue what's goin on behind closed doors. This is just the opposite of what ECMH has done. ECMH has protected shareholders from crooks like those workin this other company.
Sparky you're tryin ta sell air buddy.
What they actually did was retire 100 million of their common shares for 1000 preferred shares that only vote. they don't convert to common ever. They did that to reduce common OS, use it to pay debt and yet not lose votin control they already had. The could simply issue themselves sellable shares as the company HLNT does but they didn't. The important fact to look at is they received no monetary gain at all, with none available in a future conversion. The intent by the technology minds involved was to protect the company and technology while paying down Convertable Debt. They could have done the same and kept and sold the 100 million shares. They didn't and that shows their intent. I've shown you where others in the hho fuel sector have done just the opposite and issued themselves hidden (from shareholders) preferred shares that convert to common at 1 for ten. In the case I showed you on another board it was 100 million preferred shares that converts to 1 billion common. Now that's fraud and is the opposite of what ECMH did. Now you are defending the 1 billion share fraud elsewhere and makin false claims here. I wonder why Sparky?
Hey solar guys.
The solar mfr companies are around by the dozens. Tough to make it unless you're technology is new and better. I have been lookin into a solar program that is interestin for homeowners. I was asked to look into by a CEO friend who's wife is involved with it. This company has an interestin concept. They lease solar systems to home owners at a locked in for 10-20 year price. It's like your sat. dish rental but costs less, is guaranteed to save you on your elec bill and the monthly rate never changes. Cost is between 35 and 90 bucks a month dependin on the system size. I got asked about it cause they were gonna be in my area soon. The pay back on a 40k-100k solar system is a long time. It looks like this company is workin the Cal. area first and branchin out to major cities based on interest and mandated payments each city has going into a solar rebate fund. Thought you dudes might be interested as it's the only solar elec yet that makes sense to me for the end user.
Sparky at least play smart.
What it shows is Robinson, Foster and humphries playin their game together. Foster tryin ta hide assets but havin Humphries administer his bank account. It shows that Foster hid those funds from the bk court in his bk filing and that when Robinson decided he was gonna run the game they turned on Humphrie?s. No doubt Humphries was also dirty. They all are. Now their fighting over the SSEV funds they worked together to put into a Foster personal bank account that Humphries controlled. Sounds like Foster was the fall guy then like Coats today. Robinson used Foster to ouist the other crook Humphries. Now you wanna look at these docs and come up with Foster as the victum? Foster is the name on the defunct companies HLNT is tryin ta pass off as real now. Foster also received over 200 million shares of HLNT. What do ya think Robinson, Brad Foster and the other two directors got besides the 100 million preferred that convert to 10 common for one preferred whenever they want to make the conversion. And guess what else they (Foster and Robinson) voted in? They can hide it all from the shareholders per the changes they made in the HLNT Bi-laws and Articles of Inc.
Sorry that link got emailed to me and it's a PACER account needed doc. I'll try ta get a copy ya can read.
Here's the Foster / Humphries Agreement.
The only one that was signed. He HLNT shareholders look who witnessed the siging. Why it's Mel Robinson. So the boys were takin money outta SSEV now HLNT and puttin it in a foster account handled by Humphries and witnessed by Robinson? Then when they decided to highjack the company another doc showed up with an end of contract date? These are your boys Highline shareholders. Send in you prepayments for that Hoss ATV that's comin soon. What a joke this thing is.
https://ecf.arwd.uscourts.gov/doc1/0291580248
Foster vs Humphries suit.
Seems from the lawsuit docs linked below that Foster forgot this claimed asset in his Bankruptcy. Either he's hidin assets from the bk court or he's makin all this up about Humphries. Can't have it both ways Charlie. Which is it? You had Humphries hold your cash while ya filed the bk or you're playin the Robinson / Bolt game of litigate them to death. I'm thinkin it's the later since ya started that way with Humphries. If Humphries was smart he'd start postin right here. Same with Foster and Robinson. Let's just all pretent they aren't.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2194391/Foster%20vs%20Humphries.pdf
ECMH? Ya got the right ho ho but the wrong ta ta bro.
You're puttin down nothin but air. I'm now goona give ya a special treat. I'm goin over the Charles Foster v Steven Humphries case from July this year a doin a cross ref to the Foster bankruptcy. The assets just aint matchin up. Seems they change dependin on the court he's in. Thought you might like that Voodoo. Do ya know Brad? Just like most kids ya dream about playin in the bigs. Be careful what ya wish for son.
We're hep to the tweedle dee these cats are tryin ta lay on the public. That's easy ta see. It's the tweetle dum way they're tryin ta lay down the smoke that is funny. Thse dudes not only play the public for stupidf but they seem ta think the FBI and SEC are ridin in the same boat. They aint. Trust me on that. Robinson and Bolt are new names to those that count. Targets, maybe. Just needed ta sit and wait for awhile. Guess what bro? It's awhile time.
Don't need customers ya say?
Really? I'm thinkin real contact info is the real problem. IO thought ya were proud ta be a HLNT distributor. Seems your mouth and your marketing mind are in conflict. You're the perfect HLNT distributor. What fiels are you workin out of? 25 E. Main? Tell ya what son. If it helps I'll pretend ya aren't gettin screwed if ya will send in another rep to talk HLNT facts. Okie Dooky?
HLNT Director Mark Silva.
All the credentials needed to be appointed by Robinson. These guys have total control. Defunct companies, vacant lots and all.
Silva Properties
Mark Silva
12198 Little Elm Rd.
Farmington, AR 72730
Phone:
(479) 236-6456
A guy in way over his head.
Local plumber next town over from Farmington. You've probably read the background info on Robinson and Foster the two deep thinkers in this game. They needed a front guy. Local talent that could be controlled. Dudes a plumber for Christ sakes. Here's what facts show. Robinson gets the dirt on Humphries and plays his "your toast unless ya play ball game" and ends up with HLNT. Robinson has local used car dealer Charles Foster playin ball with him. Foster has two defunct companies Bo-tie and Highline Hydrogen. Oh nya and defunct Hoss. Humphries was playin the game with Foster prior to Robinson doin his take over. It's all SMOKE and MIRRORS Joe, always has been. The stupid HLNT real shareholders are gettin scammed. Look at the Preffered Shares and the hidden stuff goin down. The history with this group is to blog with dozens of names. Total bs con job. They just see who bites and play it out until it's toast and then meet again and put Robinson or Bolt on the hunt again. If Coats has a brain in his head, I don't see em lastin long in this cluster job where he the signaturer of record patsy. I had the CEO of ECMH call Coats. ECMH is the real deal in this technology and knows what's really up and not. Listen to the Webber interview from before these guys even knew what hydrogen was. Anyway Webber talks to Coats and then emails me like "what the hell are ya askin me ta do?" Seems Coats told Webber he doesn't have any idea what hho does or it's uses.
Charles Foster and HLNT
This hho compant NLNT gets worse the more I look. I read the two bankruptcy docs filed by Charles Foster. The firct was 10/2/06 and he's listed as a Used Car Salesman for XNA motors. Another BK was filed on 5/16/10. This time Foster lists 200,212,000 shares of HLNT as assets owned by him. This doesn't count son Brad and the other kids who seem to be family asset holders.
So what we have of interest here is that Foster becomes a director in March 2010 and brings nothin to the party except an upcomin bankruptcy. By BK filing time 6 weeks later he has over 200 million HLNT shares. I didn't see any reporting on that transaction folks. Can you imagine what Mel Robinson owns? No wonder you have people begging the public to purchase HLNT shares.
So now let's look into XNA Motors. We did that with Bo-tie which no longer exists and we've also heard reposts that the HLNT address is really a vacant lot that was once a used car lot. Gee, I wonder if used car salesman Foster worked there? Seems he didn't as of May 2010. He had a new gig HLNT and 200 million shares. Welcome to HLNT the company that PR's how transparent they will become. I'm just helpin em out with a little kick start.
Execs and technology is the real deal.
Been a long clean up battle gettin ride a the former trash. The rotary guys are in firm control. They brought all the technology with them. Started at Curtiss Wright then John Deere then the Deere engineers formed Rotary Power Int. Now it's all at ECMH. Problems were always high emissions and fuel consumption. The ECMH guys redesigned the air/fuel delivery and management technology. Patented it and now have their smallest engine in CARP/EPA testin. Initial results from the test lab should be PR'd any day now. Assets were audited and valued at 8+ million. Undervalued because no one knows the value. I'd call it esoteric cause it's rotaries. The product from the CW days til now has had several hundred million invested. None were able to beat the emissions/fuel thing until now. Plenty more but work that over for now. Bottom line is the rotary engine has huge advantages over piston engines. Read up on it. The company has reported they are gettin green emissions below CARB numbers. The EPA/CARB certified test lab will have the final say on that. Better stay tuned. You'll see a lotta nonsense posted. Present mgmt. cleaned house and the dirt that got swept out is only capable of postin see through nonsense as a response.
Dude, do ya need someone ta walk ya ta school too?
Are ya talkin to yourself or someone here. What is it ya wanna know. I can save ya one hell of a lotta time spent walkin in the dark.
prepare ta enter the Twilight Zone.
Especially with HLNT. You'll need to read my posts and links for the last 7 days or so. It'll take ya all the way back to the Ok. City bombing and the Terry Nichols trial. Woog will understand this, the guys involved are like Jimmy Swaggart and Keith Maydak rolled inta one and on steriods.