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Oh man I just looked at some of the posts, it kind of reminds of critics trying to rehash Edison’s evolution in creating the light bulb and questioning why he didn’t move to the last step the first day.
So any whoos I had a few minutes this morning and thought I’d add my 2 cents worth, I think many on here post when they are consuming adult beverages, not smart in my book (In the morning one might ask “How did I get that hole in my foot?, LOL). OK so these guys are working on something earth shattering, frickin plastic that can control light, plastic that can Alter/Modulate the properties of light not only with Electric but also with Light, think about! Many tried it and could not. Pop Goetz figured out how to do it and set off to do it, lil history, when Fred Jr. was young he wasn’t exactly thrilled about following in his father’s footsteps, I’m not sure of the year but I think it was his first year at the U of D he changed his mind, bottom line he graduated 1st in his class at the U of D nice so after a few years Pop was able to hand off to Jr in an orderly (sort of) fashion, Jr. was brilliant but did not document his work very well. Fred was not a business leader kind of guy and Marcelli was brought in to run the joint, soon after he had taken over the reins Jr had a very unfortunate accident incapacitating him rendering his input/project status pretty much useless. Delay of game, It is my opinion that Bim/Eaton reached out to Ross Fasick (Ex V.P. Dupont) At the time the company did not have sufficient funds nor the expertise to proceed in a straight line towards the finish line. The company was not making a product that was 100% pure nor was it 100% perfected nonetheless everyone that tested it was amazed, however that being said those testing it could not explain the results nor explain the variations in the results. Lah la la Fasick brought in Joe Miller/Glasgow (Cornings Highest Talents) and somewhere along the line Fred Leonberger (JDSU cat, Father of today’s modulators) lent his name to this science. Oh and Turpin has pretty much been around forever, (I think this would have ended with him however Northrop gobbled up his company (I forget the name). OK so yes it has not been a straight line forward especially when all of the outside groups (Private and Academic) try to run with the ball, some even try to claim the ball. As info when a company or University is privy to IP an agreement is signed that prevents others from knowing, furthermore employees are employees and as such investors are not entitled to know every detail of their personal life, some just don’t know when to stop and constantly rehash yesterdays bumps in the road.
So if someone doesn’t like the company for goodness sakes sell the shares and move on like an adult or in other cases already has sold and continues to go back and point to things in the past that led them to that conclusion and look for others to support that historic decision because no doubt they are questioning that decision. OK enough of that, fast forward to toady.
So Lightwave is protecting the IP with Both Trade secrets and Patents why would they do that? IMO because they are onto something that they do not want to put out there for others in the form of a patent, it is called looking out for the shareholders. This is not a One Trick Pony, got it? IMO they are (finally) just about there, they have a handful of variations that they can reproduce reasonably well. They have the bleached waveguides to test the performance, they are in receipt of just about everything (not sure about Opsis mods) they need and should be close to having the clean room up, which if you think about it they would need to produce clean Opsis Prototype Mods, DUH. I’ve been here about 10 years, they have moved a long way from Mom, Pop, Fred and Andrew in the industrial park. Sure it has been a long ride, not sure if the end is near but the talent that has joined the company to Drive this science forward knows more than everyone posting on this board combined. (oh and I think everyone of them is still here and as I understand it still hits the lab regularly, you heard Z, he said something like those that appear to have left have not actually left, they are still here).
So I’m still supporting them 100%, I do not think that criticizing them is going to help anything. The timeline here may not fit in with many, as Fred Jr. used to say many, many times, “X, it is Science”
I so wish Pop and Fred Jr. were here to see these next few steps play out, I’ve Been here since day one and supported this science from the beginning, could I be wrong, heck yes but I am not selling at this stage. Fred always said that he was 10 years ahead, he wasn’t bragging just being honest, Miller even said that even if they had it perfected the world was not ready for it. As many of you have noticed all of the sudden (seamily from out of the blue) there are many headlines of folks that are playing in this space. We are not privy to the science but I mean sit back and look, Chemical Lab, Device Lab, 2 different devices have proved out, Agreements are being shopped, Foundries delivering, Clean room almost there. Whatever guys, As Always, Have a great Day, Don’t beat the Dog, Your Neighbor or some anonymous Cat on the internet.
Trying to be respectful as always, Gotta Blow the Leaves (Brrrr)
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Nice find Proto, (Punkin head). OK I know I’ve been busy but I totally missed that, was it discussed on here? Does anyone know who the investor presentation was for? What are they putting together? Has it been presented or just dated awaiting some event?
Something else I noticed is a link on the website to the SEC filings. I don’t have time to look but I think that is a requirement for a move to another exchange.
I wish Dr. Goetz and Fred were here to see the next few steps play out, when the selling and buying tip by a couple percentage points or news is released it will move up fast not sure if anyone is going to give up large blocks at this point, too risky. Hopefully guy’s a solid foundation has now been laid this appears to be moving exactly as we (those old head investors) hoped it would have years ago. Have there been missteps? Yep but we are getting there, kind of like watching a child grow up, make missteps, mature, succeed, so on and so forth, sure the drunk uncle will still try and bring down the kid at reunions about those questionable historic events but hey that is what life is about (I guess). You either believe in them or you don’t.
Oh I noticed that Turpin is listed on the Board of advisors for a time there he was not listed.
Any who’s oh crap just looked at the clock, no time to proof, gotta run.
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Well they have multiple Tier 1s Under NDA and “The Company knows of no other polymer that has been able to demonstrate the combination of thermal stability and high electro-optical activity necessary for advanced applications such as this.”
Look for yourself, punkin, Lol
http://lightwavelogic.com/technology/
Gotta Run (just to the couch)
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If anyone wants to sell warrants I’m a buyer.
Send an email to the x993231@yahoo.com email.
Just in case anybody that participated in the raise is getting worried I’d be willing to trade Cash for those dollar warrants, I mean shoot it has already be 3 or 4 months and we haven't been bought out yet, Lol.
Gooday.
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Good Point, I almost put them down, not sure why I didn't.
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Don't forget to stick someone in the mix to mass produce the PerkCorn like a Dow Corning, or BASF.
I asked that question at the SHM, they did not spell it out in Black and White but I'm pretty sure that they will just get them straight from a foundry. Who knows what kind of arrangements could be made with the only Thermo/Chemical stable Patented, Trade Secret Protected (By Both LWLG and Corning ya know) Chromophore that can be "manipulated at the periphery" for different results.
For the New guys, that is difference between todays Lithium niobate (naturally occurring not patentable or able to be modified) and Lightwaves Friggin, Tool Box of Chromophores.
Looks like Ihub finally got the level II's to work again, the IT guys probably spent too much time focusing on the advertising and how many adds and pop up they can stuff on paying customers screens than on their core business.
X And yes I gotta Run
Sorry guys but IMO as of now the market for that POET stock is thinly traded and appeared to me to being manipulated. Just my opinion, we’ll see. If there are only a few market makers with low volume it can be manipulated very easily. I tried to have conversation on that board a few months back (when it was flying high like $1.50) and was told by their moderators that Poet’s technology has NOTHING in common with Lightwave and they sent me a private email saying that they would delete every post I made. Rather than get in a pissing match I honored that request and stopped the discussion. Hey all I’m saying is let the buyer beware and take the discussion to that board. Remember Lumera (adjusted for the R Split) at 70 Bucks, I do ; ). No X don’t say anything, Lol.
Good Luck to all, I still need to hit a number on a few of my positions (not for myself) trying to figure out, do I jump in now or will the “Long Term Inventors” freak out because after all there still are 40 or so VERY LONG working days between now and the end of the year and unless they do a releases on what they are having on their Pizza everyday in both labs (because someone may have a food allergy and forget) or I guess that perhaps some that insecure that they do not trust their own judgment. Are we there yet?, Are we there yet?, Are we there yet?
Sorry for laying it out there in Black and White.
Lol I just thought of something, Proto like 5 or 6 years ago heading off to the pumpkin patch. Yes it has been a long time. This is complex stuff folks you either believe they know what they are doing or you don't and doubt yourself everyday. Do Ya Think Fred Leonbeger Father of todays Modulators had any Input on the designs? They are only going to tip their hands at the appropriate times, IMO hence the dual foundry 2 designs, 3 designs, 4 designs, I kinda get it.
That was Great, Great News, Hawt Digity, Dawg.
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Little less than 50 working days (!) since the shareholders meeting, they are proceeding just as the said they would in Boulder. Not sure how many lay folk will understand the importance of what they are working on and how close (relatively speaking) they are now, I also wonder how many were confused by the Ihub screw up today showing zero shares trading and if it affected anyone, IMO the average person looks to see what others are doing how they are interpreting the news then act accordingly.
Pretty sure this will be the stepping stone to bigger and better things now, that is being accepted as a material that can function in a device, be accepted as something that can be reproduced and punished/stressed to the max and most frickin importantly understand and see that they can tweak the molecule and change the performance. Just how long before someone of importance gets it we’ll see. Folks we are but peons in the process that will play out, will it be a month or a year, I dunno and honestly I don’t care.
Nuts Hot Nuts Get Them From The Peanut Man, Ya, Ya, Ya.
Just curious odds how old are you?
Scope I'm here but I don't think that it is wise to pump while accumulating so I remain silent. (But I'd like to thank those that are hammering this.)
Honestly, I am at peace with this, if I'm wrong oh well it is what it is. I truly believe that they are busting their rears, Our time is coming. I prefer to remain confident and not to freak out. Honestly, until the shroud of secrecy is removed, I hope this goes to 50 cents as someone said yesterday (road her down to 60 a few times before).
Has it taken longer than we ALL (including the company) thought heck yes, it is what it is.
Last time I looked the opsis chart said November (Est.) not October for delivery and last time I looked Est. meant estimated. I haven't asked.
Oh and if anyone thinks that Steve (or anyone) can control predict Hochbergs, the U of D or IME's timing then um,,,,,
Keepin The Faith Bros' and Broettes.
As Usual Gotta Run.
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I have not a clue what you guys are talking about. They are going to keep the chemical perk lab in Delaware and the device lab will be out in Colorado. Someone makes a crazy statement: everybody runs with it as if it's gospel.
IMO I’d say that they are in the Lightwave Tool Bag as they should be because after all they were Lightwave’s to begin with. If I paid you for research and you discovered something in the process,,,, UM thats what agreements are for. Private sector vs. Public. I’d also venture to guess that just like Gore-Tex, AS the events unfold here, Lightwave will forever hold certain IP acquired during the learning curve private in order to insure that they have an edge going forward. Don’t get me wrong, there will be deals along the way but I’d bet Lightwave will work the magic and maintain control over a portion of the process, if they, Mr. Big Guy doesn’t like lil old Lightave maintaining control then they could just swallow up the whole kit and caboodle, in the grand scheme of things we could be had for peanuts but I’ll bet you dime to donuts those that acquire the IP hold it tight as well. Just my take on things.
Gotta love those Aphorisms, My Dad Used To Drive Me Crazy With Them.
Oh, Ooops, I Gotta Run
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The answer is in that post I know that you will "get it", I'm not going to put it in Super Super HiDef black and white.
You get the gist ;)
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Without being compensated This is absolutely not a deal where Lightwave is going to throw it’s IP out for the world to adjust and play with (after all they may try to claim), we saw what happened with Whamaphores (B4), they are going to hold this IP very close to their vest, after all WE the investors PAID for it, if it takes a little longer than it would if they gave it away oh well that is FINE with me and if you remember the history here, their (the Goetzs/Lightwaves) funding was pulled by someone on that list (that is the reason the company went public) to fund their technology 100% and it was a failure BUT that individual/institution made a ton of money on what certainly looked like a self fulfilling prophecy move to me (and squash the Goetzs Perk) and it was totally called out in advance here. Whatever, In fact IMO it will be quite the opposite here and I’d go so far as to say that you will see them holding much of their IP as a trade secret, they may not ever patent ALL of it, like some of Gore-tex’s ish.
As far as this employee stuff, I thought there were new heads in that Lab months ago but I could be mistaken. Unless they are a super star type I’m not sure that Lightwave is going to go out of its way to announce every new hire publicly because some just don’t know when to stop you know what I’m saying, when to make things public that should remain private about an individual etc.
Like I said IMO they know what they are doing, but then again I’ve never moved current technology to the next level IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR but there are a few at Lightwave that have!
Think about it, there are 10’s but more than likely 100’s of chromophores in Lighhtwaves tool bag, if you wanna play you’ll need to bring something to the table. “Better not to do a deal than to do a BAD deal”.
IMO
Have a good day and yes I’m diggin the 4 Bucks will get you 5 Shares.
Yup
Xstradomus
At this point I'm not sure if hiring additional staff would speed up the process or slow it down. Everyone that works at the company knows more about this field than anyone off us. If they need a particular skill set to speed something up they will either hire a person or contract it out. Guys I'm still 100% confident in the company and I do not try an bug them, I hate it when someone bugs me about something that I'm working as hard as I can on which breaks my concentration and takes me away from the task at hand to go over the same thing as I just went over with someone else that called 10 minutes ago, so on and so forth, so I give them the same leeway. Many CEO's just ignore shareholder requests. I'll tell you what, as I slow down, sometime over the next few months I'll schedule a sit down (lunch) with Bim to review things.
Honestly I like this 80 cent action for every 4 bucks you get 5 shares. The price today is what is. Finally, Finally, Finally Photonics is moving to the forefront and getting the attention that the investors on this board have paid it for 10 years (many tired and just complain, whatever). Soon it will spread like wildfire and when it becomes an everyday buzzword, wham, I'm still saying that this will end with a buyout, Period. "Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up." That will not be me, not on this one, Nope.
Long and Strong,
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I must be weird but I don’t base my decisions on what others are doing I base them on what I believe. When the price of this is down I don’t freak out (try to plant doubt in others so I feel warm and fuzzy with them) instead I try to find ways to buy more. I guess that I’m just backwards, not a follow the crowd kind of guy. Time has a way of making people worry; this is crazy quantum physics that even Einstein had trouble understanding. Photonics is the future and Lightwave has proven their material works, remember that Ol man Goetz, Mrs. and Fred Jr. went at it backwards by taking something stable and making it control Light, pretty cool try doing that in your head, they went up against the machine, the machine pulled their funding and he still did it. If anyone thinks that Joe Miller, Fred Leonberger, Terry Turpin, Ross Fasick etc. are/were spending time here to mislead folks they need to have their head examined. The fact is that Lightwave has got it to work (on a few different substrates) and they will get the science down in a device, I Betcha! I do kind of enjoy watching the different personalities (investment experts in week guys) move around to make coin (or try) but IMO once this pops it will be a wild ride up, good luck to those on the sidelines when that happens. Shoot at this point even the president couldn’t pronounce Photonics (THINK ABOUT THAT). There will be a learning curve for JoBlow public but (unlike the science) with today’s communications it will happen fast. Nope I’ve spent 10 years watching this; I’m holding long and strong, Long and Strong.
Good Luck in your ventures Six.
Oh crap just looked at the clock, Gotta Run.
Love X
Wow this computer tracking thing is getting crazy. I get up this morning and this website is in my toolbar. I do not remember ever reading this. Apparently just like the advertisers do they watch what you do and can predict what you are interested in. Weird, actually this appears to be pretty pertinent to what they are doing. Weird, Weird. This was done using the CLD-1 ish that Lumera/Gig had and gave away it died at 160c. The scary thing is that I can almost understand it as Bitz would say, less the math.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20040082356.pdf
You’d think that I have better things to do on a Saturday morning.
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I do, But (and I know that you understand) Just because this is a public company and a public message board doesn't mean that we need to have everything about every employee in black and white for folks to google search. Lets just leave it at he was a fine employee, his departure does NOT reflect negatively on Lightwaves technology. The private sector demands are different than academia.
Gotta head South for the day,
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A New Measurement Technique from Germany, explains a lot, it will make your head spin but IMO, If this test was around a couple years ago I think AZ would still be in the Picture.
http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/apl/105/11/10.1063/1.4895939
We are getting there, IMO Many will be caught off guard with their pants down.
Lovin Life,
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Talk about a softball.
http://semiconductormuseum.com/HistoricTransistorTimeline_Index.htm
Xistor Out
Hey Rich welcome to the other side, feel free to post at will, this is my take on that technology and believe me reading everything out there can boggle the mind.
“To study a new approach to manufacturing crystals for high-power lasers” IMO It is just about lasers, as Fred used to say, (I think you know) lasers will be used to generate a beam of light (Photons) that will travel down the waveguide or through the fiber, Lightwaves tech will break up/alter the properties of that beam.
“ceramic processing of single-crystal material into productive applications” For an intelligent response Proly the best person at Lightwave to ask would be Glasgow because of his time spent at Corning (Former Chief Technology Officer at Corning)and their expertise in ceramics, oh and by the way guys, the last time I checked he is also still working at Lightwave. You heard Z’s comment, “when folks leave they do not actually leave they are still around”
OK next subject not directed at you Rich.
Tis a shame, The internet has changed good people in a few ways, by being anonymous it emboldens many to publicly make personal attacks that they would never do in public (unless they were intoxicated), just as one would never think about butting in front of someone in the grocery store (unless they were intoxicated)but would not hesitate to cut someone off in traffic. Oh and by the way if I had a beef with someone about something at Lightwave (I’ve done the toe to toe thing and made comments both positive and negative) in the past I made the effort to speak to them in person (I also try not to be a pest proly only check in 2 to 4 times Per Year and certainly do not want any inside info) Funny the effect time has on attitudes (and yes the internet has also affected that). Furthermore by being anonymous it is hard to read the actual motivation, attitude, reasoning, situation (spouse, work, events, motivation) blah, blah, blah, behind a particular individual’s statement.
Anywho’s I guess I gotta run, Oh I saw a breathalyzer for PCs on eBay, perhaps I should get one for mine just in case I’m tempted to post if I’m misbehaving and the stock closes down, LOL.
As Forest Gump would say that is all I have to say about that.
Patient as ever.
Love Frickin
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OH and my "I’m not sure if this will work" comment was about my diagram I wasn't sure how Ihub would format the drawing, cause you know I'm still a firm believer that this works, but it "ain't easy".
Gotta Run on down the Road.
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Someone posted yesterday that they could not get very excited about a Bleach Waveguide Modulator and I agree that even Lightwave said that it doesn’t have a current commercial use, but this is why I think that it is very useful tool, first of all they are made in house so they can make push them to the max voltage, (tear the molecule apart) overheat basically just them screw them up and throw them in trash can and then just build another, OK this is my understanding if I’m wrong I’m wrong but this is my take on it.
If I go back to the shareholders meeting a few years ago and a conversation I had with Fred Leonberger and I’m thinking possibly Bintz (in the lab) too, he was talking about poling above and below the thin film and how the laser passed through, (I think it even bounced back or 45’d or something), that caused me to pause and question, I said I think you mean on the ends poling from the edges of the film don’t you?, he corrected me and said no, this is thin film Above and Below to check the performance of the polymer. Oh I think that even in the lab tours the testing was 90 degrees to the surface. Remember Z with his I don’t care if it works in the lab I want to see it work in a device. OK think about it, Perk in a waveguide will need to be poled from the edges the lightwave will travel down the slot and either through or next to the perk (depending on the width and height of the guide and the thickness of the Perk/Corning) a different ballgame in my mind. Yes, the various configurations of the molecule work on films, now deposit in a waveguide, they did it and it worked, kewl, they even did it with a borrowed modulator. But they are shooting for less voltage remember they are going for less than 1 Volt. At this point this is almost as much about saving energy as it is speed. In my mind this is the reason that the Bleached waveguides are so important and useful, in other words they can show that it can works at a specific thickness, width, voltage, temperature, nm, etc.
I’m not sure if this will work, this is what in my opinion has changed, and hey I could be wrong we have some very talented individuals working on this, do they know it works? Absolutely, now it is all about learning how to control the different parameters.
Film testing from above
+/- Poling voltage (heat pole cool)
!
!
V
------------ Perk
________Film
Test
Laser
!
!
V
------------ Perk +/- Electric to cause the change the wavelength (1,0,0,0,1,1)
________Film
Bleached Waveguide (from the front and back of the slot)
Poling
------------ Perk
________Waveguide < - - - - -- - + Poling voltage
Testing in Device conditions
+/- Electric next to wave guides to cause the change in the wavelength (1,0,0,1,1,1)
!
!
V
------------ Perk < -------- Laser traveling through the..
________Waveguide
Just how I see it in my mind
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And yes I agree we all wish that we had all the answers and they could just publish everything that they know, everything that they have found out what works, what doesn't, where the pitfalls are and exactly how they will proceed etc. Academia wise that would be great, I'm just not sure that would be a good thing business wise. It looks like they are going to protect it with the patents on the Core Molecule and keep the others a trade secret.
Again X Out
Kow after hearing Caers question in the SHM I questioned JM about that because there were a fare amount of participants in the last PP from our friends across the pond that IMO would be affected by it. If you participated in that I believe that they have someone willing to hold them that you can deal with, so I’d call Steve. Oh and if any of you cats holding warrants want to sell them send me an email to x993231@yahoo.com (as info I only look at that email once a month or so, send me one and I'll give you a better address). As info anytime anyone participates in PP it is always difficult, certainly it is not as easy as buying and selling on the open market. As info I’m sure that comment wasn’t about Lightwave but the OTC market in general and yes I agree that it can be shady. If in fact the brokers overseas are not going to allow trading of OTC stocks then the entire market EVERY OTC STOCK will get hammered between now and then. As for Lightwave moving up, as I understand it that is one of their long term goals, I think the BOD has enough outside directors (I used to look at it but I haven’t checked on rule changes) for a move but obviously there are other factors preventing that. If Lightwave is not bought out (which I still think will happen, and calm down guys I cannot say short term or long term) then eventually of course they would make a move but I certainly wouldn’t count on it. If I were you I’d call a bunch of brokers and dig into it to find someone that will let you deal in the OTC's. It has been my experience that they may require you to move your assets to their brokerage company.
Of course guys I always look at the positive side of things and like to think they (delays) happen for a reason, others like to look at delays as woe is me, it always happens to me, my life sucks, who can I blame (besides myself), yadda, yadda. So in my world they were able to get the Bleached Waveguide Mod to work at the SHM, they made great advancement in the 6 weeks leading up to the SHM, according to some here the foundry run will arrive in a month or so. I'm hoping that they have advanced/tweaked the molecule based on the Bleached Mod work and that delay will have improved the odds/quality of the next step.
Oh and as for POET, I truly look at that as a pumper/dumper. I posted great post there on that board but the Mods deleted it and said that it has absolutely nothing to do with the technology or market that are working on, go figure. Hey but Pump, N Dumps can be good for short term play so it may be a good quickie move. Watching the other um, never mind,,,,,.
Good Luck, Gotta Run, Life is Good then you Die and that truly does Suck,
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As I understand it IMEC is already doing a run for us. "The Company has developed slot waveguide structures that will be one of the basic building blocks of many of our devices we are working on in the first half of 2014. With wafers provided by IMEC, (Interuniversity Microelectronics Centre) in Belgium, we are now in possession of hundreds of chips that are ready to be coated with materials and put into devices. These chips are the basic building blocks of many different device structures in our development effort and having a large supply of them gives us the ability to test and optimize our materials and device designs.
We successfully deposited our polymer materials into other slot waveguides and poled and tested them at high speeds. We were extremely pleased with the initial results and are now analyzing our data and relaying the information back to the chemical synthesis lab to adjust material properties in order to make even further improvements for our IMEC chips. Once again, different devices require slightly different material properties depending on the specific device configurations and applications. Fortunately, we now have core molecules that we can adjust at the periphery."
I think that we are already working with them. Would one you other guys post a lil info on what many of us have all thought was going on in Belgium or should I take some time to go down that path (I haven't looked in month or 2). I'd rather someone else do it so it doesn't look like it just me that figured out that angle. Just throw out the name,
Oh and Proto when I asked that question I didn't get an answer one way or the other. Logically speaking we are in that Final run but I can not say definitively.
Thanks.
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That would surprise me because his father just moved here. Last time I looked he had his feet in 2 camps. So you are 100% sure that he has left? I don't have time to look, I was getting ready to post this when I saw your message.
On the Opsis front. A few months ago I was bummed for about a week when I heard about it too, Then I thought about it and it made perfect sense if what we all though happened to Intel actually happened, If they are now in the same group as the others (without any preferential treatment) why would they front the costs. As info a few months back, (in my travels around town) I meet someone is involved in the U of D’s new STAR Campus and in around about way I mentioned Opsis, he did not respond directly but I could tell by his facial expressions something wasn’t right. When I mentioned Lightwave his reaction was slightly different. Take from that whatever you want. Now, pretty much they are not beholden to anyone. Let us hope that George Lauro is able to put us in bed with someone with an agreement that provides additional funds without giving away too much going forward.
G’Day
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Took Long enough for that question, it has been out there forever. In fact I asked Z about it as the SHM, he shrugged his shoulders as if to say one less middleman in the picture. I’d bet that we are in kinda tight with IMEC. As I understand it we are supposed to get our run from U of D. as info Opsis was funded by Intel, go figure, like I said games will be played. I think a single run costs about $50k.
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That’s kind of what I thought a Stock BB was for, I think the frustration is getting the best of some, yep in today’s world 10 years seems like forever so I understand the frustration but backing the Goetzs technology is not nearly as bad as what happened and is still happening to the guys that backed Daltons technology (Lumera/Gig). Shame, Shame Shame. I’m still a believer that Lightwave will get there, always said the road blocks will be many and they certainly have been. Tweak, Tweak Tweak, Perfect, Perfect, Perfect. The guys in the lab are perfecting the process, having outsider’s double check the chemistry, next step, verify again, so on and so forth. Next step apply spin, how long, how fast, next step pole what temp how many volts etc. Remember now they are working from the ends in a device, versus on a film above and below like before. They’ve got it to work, I have no doubt at all that they can repeat, repeat, repeat it. I wonder if they vibrate it when they pole it? Is it hard to wait? Absolutely, but I’m going to let this play out, Like I said the road blocks have been many, yes balls have been dropped, but hey I don’t have any room to complain because I’ve dropped the ball quite few times myself, that is what life’s about. If you are not making mistakes you are not trying hard enough.
Pit currently when I’m buying I’m letting them come to me, the tide will turn but currently that looks like the best approach. Did anyone notice that Bovi participated in that raise? As info Bovi is council, he was at the SHM I was only able to talk for brief few second before the meeting he blew me off and brushed me aside after 2 minutes because he had to make a call, logically speaking I’d guess that it was about the PR that they put out just after that. Oh and I checked, someone questioned Fred Leonberger participation, Uh, he is VERY, VERY active.
We'll all be dead in a fear years, so for now, As always,
I’m certainly not going to speculate publicly, I guess that you’d have to ask Norwood and his affiliates that question, there were so many rumors during all the delays at AZ, shoot it would take Lightwave weeks if not months to make batch, then the university delays, POS feedback loop, remember Miller with his hand on is chin, “I wonder what we did,,, what happened,,,? All I remember was back in the day when he had a very early (dirty I’m sure) version of Perkinamine and Norwood tested it his comment (2nd hand, granted it was hearsay) was “I cannot believe it, those kids did it” referring to Fred Jr. (and I guess Andrew?). I guess that one could ask that question about all of Lightwave’s past affiliates. The important thing is to look at how far they have come from those days, shoot back in the day Jr. thought the spacer system was going to solve the solubility bunching issue, and accelepure was going to clean it, it looks like it took Corning’s Molecules and a Astro Zen chemist, whatever, been a long road. They finally have physically got it to work; now they need to do a deal. How long before they get a bite, only the Lord knows, but the world is certainly bumping up against the physical constraints of current technology, Gig gave away their technology as I always said they would (sorry but I did going back 10 years ago and those guys hated me for saying it) so that was at least 1 thing, LOL that I have going for me.
Look at the progress in the past 2 years, again look at the past 2 years, should it have happened like that 10 years ago, yes that was what I was expecting, but again this is finally moving ahead in a logical business-like manner, once the first deal is inked and the cookie cutter is established IMO many, more deals will follow and somewhere in there Lightwaves side will be taken out with a Green Paper Like or Stock like material that was developed long ago.
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I’m pretty sure that I remember (if I read it correctly) BNS is still entitled to a percentage of the sales going forward. Oh Also Meadolark has first right of refusal to produce products/tech developed by BNS, not sure how that fits into the equation either. I’m not saying that there is anything going on here from the merger side but it certainly is a reason to pause do some DD and it most certainly will help BNS focus on NEW technology, new SBIR’s, new defense device initiatives etc. I just wanted to point out that some of that technology was in fact provided by Lightwave and when it was brought to my attention by one of the investors I tried for over a week to piece this together in my mind and because I didn’t see anyone talking about it I threw it out there, if that makes me a bad guy oh well. I guess that we are only allowed to rehash the past, no thank you, I’m a forward looking positive kind of guy, that kind of attitude and outlook day in and day out for years is apparently not for everyone but that is what I bring to the table, sorry (I guess).
Funny we are talking about the switching of light, no make that a specific nm laser in a 100% error free controlled fashion at a million times per second in an area as small as a pin head, it appears that some (including many, many fortune 500’s) underestimated how easy it will be and thought that just because Perkinamine can perform that fast, also is compatible with silicon and CMOS temperatures, was all that was needed (I know I did). Hopefully Perk Plus Corning is the enabling material that will provide the answer. Sorry but I’m still very confident if that makes me bad guy Oh Well, so it looks like others are losing faith, tis OK, proly best for those folks to either medicate or move on and stop beating themselves up daily (or worse yet blaming others for their investment decisions and timeframes in their lives). It is quantum physics and it has been debated for over 100 years, honestly I think they have the answer and are very, very close.
Yes I agree, thanks Rick and to the guys that approached us at the SHM that are silent on the board. After a bit of reading it looks like one of the guys that attended the meeting came in the Monday after to kick in a lil more cash to the company. With the help of others I try to do the best that I can to use my God given talents to post what I can find and I think is relevant, if it makes me a bad guy then so be it, so honestly I guess that is my agenda. I still find the list of investors (Florida in particular speaks volumes)on that raise fascinating. Oh and the cross the pond crowd wow Walter.
Love, Oh HERE YOU GO,
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I'm driving so I can't exactly post. But you have to admit its pretty f in coincidental.
It is kind of weird that their (BNL/BNS) web site remains exactly the same as it did before they spun off that technology. One would think that they would have put out new one; hmmm didn’t Z say that Lightwave was also working on a new one.
http://bnonlinear.com/
For the record I’m not saying anything just that you’d think there would be reference to the sale on there, geez I wonder if something that was going to happen that week didn’t happen. Hmmmmmmm Now what was it again that didn’t happen, OH ,,,,,,,,,,
For the record this is just a guess, I didn’t get inkling from anyone at the company that anything was/is up. Let me see, I think I remember seeing that there are 11 Research cats left there, and I wonder what they are doing with the money? Well if nothing else it is always good to hope, I wonder how something like that would be structured?
Rhetorically speaking of course.
Gotta Run,
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Oops the BNS Purchase Order actually Feb 2014...
Check the dates on the BNS - Meadowlark Optics thing again. And when they announced it.
"In February 2014 we received our first purchase order for our advanced organic nonlinear electro-optic (EO) polymer from Boulder Nonlinear Systems (BNS) of Boulder, Colorado in connection with the development of a next generation LADAR system. It is a radar system that utilizes a pulse laser to calculate the distance to a target, but is also capable of rendering a 3-D image."
"In April 2014, we entered into a sole worldwide license agreement with Corning Incorporated enabling us to integrate Corning's organic electro-optical chromophores into our portfolio of electro-optic polymer materials. The agreement allows us to use the licensed patents within a defined license field that includes communications, computing, power, and power storage applications utilizing the nonlinear optical properties of their materials. As a result of obtaining this license agreement, we created a new powerful and durable nonlinear organic electro-optical (EO) material that will be used in photonic device development and is based on our new multi-chromophore approach that allows two or more chromophores to work in concert. This multi-chromophore system has achieved a 50% increase in chromophore concentration, leading to higher electro-optical activity when compared to an equivalent single chromophore system. Further, the system does not cause the high chromophore density loading issues such as reduced effective electro-optic activity due to a non-uniform concentration of chromophore in the polymer host. Repeated, multi-point measurements multi-chromophore system shows twice the electro-optic effect of Lithium Niobate with excellent durability."
"Meadowlark Optics (Meadowlark) is pleased to announce that on July 13, 2014, Meadowlark acquired the Commercial Products Group of Boulder Nonlinear Systems (BNS)."
This was announced Aug 18th...20th Share Holders Meeting was Thursday the 21st. Coincidence? Perhaps?
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I do not know, it sounded like possibly because during the meeting Z said something to the effect raise + (plus) other recent funds or something. IMO Lincoln park currently a necessary partner, many folks (short term guys) keep shooting (the long term guys)in the foot and selling it under a Buck, whatever that is part of the game.
I'm still saying a buyout will happen especially now with the Bleach mods proving, ah whatever.
That BNL thing, possibly something there?
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That is simply a procedure to register the shares to be free to trade, typically one has to do this themselves, the company just did it for them, it doesn't mean that they will sell them. It is up to the individual if they sell or not. Some may sell but first they have to find someone to take the paper, more importantly look at the who participated and ask yourself, if the stock was at like 80 cents (they could have just bought it on the street which is much easer), these guys are in for the Warrants which means they see it north of $1.00.
Most of those individuals already owned shares so if they were going to sell they would simply sell the shares they already owned.
IMO in the event of a buyout those holding paper probably will physically just surrender the paper for a check which is what I think many will do wait until the end. I could be wrong but nobody on that list has what they need today even if they wanted to.
P. S. These offerings tend to confuse many.
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Eric and John, hopefully they are making more headway and I dare say famous some day.
It has been almost a month so I better say something before it becomes old news.
Who was the company that Lightwave worked with for a couple years then in 2013 they first sold their material to? Oh that’s right it was BNL.
http://www.lightwavelogic.com/lightwave-logic-to-generate-initial-sales-of-organic-nonlinear-polymer-to-the-university-of-colorado-in-support-of-boulder-nonlinear-systems-sensor-development/
So it may be totally unrelated but any comment about Boulder Nonlinear Move selling off their old SLM technology after all along with the SBIR's it was their bread and butter?
Check the date, coincidence? I forget what I was doing then.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/26306040/meadowlark-optics-acquires-commercial-products-business-unit-from-boulder-nonlinear-systems
It may be totally unrelated but in any event they will absolutely be more focused on R & D.
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IMO you are close but your sentence needs a few different words in there, uh kind of, and the students were working on the 2nd order Bleached mod. So yes Odd I think you are missing one thing in there. I told myself I wasn't going to post anymore but then, uh someone brought something to my attention so I glanced back through the past few posts to see if anyone was close. IMO it is Hard to say how it would be structured.
Oh I see one of the Wiz Bang Valu Engine stock guys downgraded us, I doubt he can even come close to explaining the science. and probably can not spell chi3 as I can not either.
The board has recently took a turn into something that I can not really explain. It is not really about what the Goetzs created but more about, folks couple of month time frames, not the, ah never mind.
I'm going to do my best to not post and let others wiz bangs with a different time frame point the way.
Good Luck Gang, I can assure you that I have a buy order in but I'll be patient as the sentiment since the SHM is down. Come to PaPa.
I'm finally starting to feel better been 2 months or so, how I/we missed this, LOL. I'm blaming it on my illness/lack of mental capacity. I swear I'm such a woos baby. I could not even spell 8K during the shareholder's meeting and when my garmin quit working out there because of the heat, lol whatever. I'm almost back, I'm going to do my darndest not to take it personal and keep to myself. Sometimes others blame me for their decisions.
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OK I've got to run I'll read it when I get a chance, as info the EPA is "Federal" Not "State" Controlled. Hey I could be wrong, I posted 4 months ago all the sudden now it is my fault for posting and I need to shut up. The permitting process for the Mine but more importantly the Processing Plant and the final resting place for the 99% (for the record, I think that the state will let them put it back in the mine), IMO the permits for the processing will be a real challenge, Unless they ship it out of the country, perhaps Mexico or something is what, IMO will take years and years. I asked that question and did not receive a response. Unless you get the Feds behind this it will be a tough row to hoe.
Sorry again You Brought it up, Not Me.
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