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Then do it, then we'll all know that seeclear is a really swell guy and Nicolas is satan.
BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE IF HE'S SPOKEN WITH NICOLAS.
Can you?
So get off the subject that NICOLAS is a liar?
Is that not important information for a board about a company he owns?
You need to re-read my post, very slowly.
I said..it either means seeclear is lying or NICOLAS is lying. Did you read that part?
Either way, someone is lying and it's important for investors or potential investors to understand that. Yes, seeclear may be posting what Nicolas told him...in that case NICOLAS IS A LIAR.
Is that more clear?
Seeclear said it was August 21st, 2010.
If that's true, and you really spoke to Nicolas, then he is a LIAR....and that is important information for any investor or potential investor to know.
You just proved you don't understand the difference between a negative post and a factual post.
My posts are only to call out LIES. Either seeclear is lying or Toms is lying, but either way it creates a credibility issue and it would be better for seeclear and/or nicolas to say NOTHING than to keep make false promises.
I have no problem with someone posting a positive hope about cysg. That's far different than posting a LIE like..."I have spoken with Nicolas and a PR will be released by Nov 1 addressing blah, blah, blah"
Do you even get it? You're starting to sound very naive.
Trust me, I haven't made one decision based on anything seeclear said.
This is about credibility and continued misinformation. That's all. You can ignore that if you want and you can continue to feel it's ok to post lies if you want.
Give him a break, he's only a week late.
Yeah, I noticed. No volume in CYSG or DNPI. I'm sure it's just because it's a Monday, I mean no real investor would buy any on a Monday, right?
Maybe they're waiting for DNPI to drop a little lower to a good entry point.
Renee, would love to hear your thoughts one week after CYSG was officially placed on hospice.
Do you believe Toms ever had any intention of NOT letting this be suspended, considering how Corey Ribotsky had him by the nether region?
Where is the best place to check for any updates on potential lawsuits between NIR and Toms/cysg?
Corey Ribotsky > Nicolas Toms
Someone pull the plug and say the last amen.
Paging seeclear, oh seeclear...got any more messages from Nicolas to share?
Maybe a new timeline for a PR? How's that push for the OTCQB coming along? Did we miss the part where this isn't trading on the grey?
Oh the humanity.
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I have spoke with Nic Toms and have had time to discuss the Current Standing of CYSG and have received with his permission to convey the Following Message... The message is as such...
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Expect a PR addressing the current state of CYSG that will bring clarification and to expect normal trading as of Nov 2/10' We will not be trading on the Greys!..Expect the PR as early as Friday October 22nd or as late as early next week!... Nicolas R. Toms
'Penman81'.All you Naysayers and Doomsday Artistes ..Close your eyes as this does not concern you!!! ...Nic and Company are hard at with the Pedal to the Metal! Posts I forwarded to Nic from Renee have been helpfull... Thank You Renee!!! The goal was to go OTCQB... But there was not enough time I had some requests to assist certain data re Pink Sheets ..Will be going Pink Sheets *CURRENT* ....going to be close... Target Pre market tomorrow (11/2)...SC
One week later, no PR, still on the grey, no trades.
EPIC FAIL.
I'm sure he's helping Nicolas get that PR and financials together so this thing doesn't end up suspended and on the grey....oh wait...
Nic still working on that PR and that push for the OTCQB? If he was close to making it by 11/2, how does he not have it ready by 11/5?
I'm just glad this thing isn't going to trade on the grey, per your "conversation" with Nicolas.
That's what I thought. Birds of a feather.
Nic still working on that PR and that push for the OTCQB? If he was close to making it by 11/2, how does he not have it ready by 11/4?
I'm just glad this thing isn't going to trade on the grey.
This is going to be a lame answer
Thanks Renee.
It seems fairly obvious that this was an intentional move by Toms (the SEC doesn't just ambush you, Toms knew the suspension was coming) and you're right, a lawsuit by NIR would not be surprising.
Lots of red flags.
Renee...what sort of timeline should we expect for CUSIP revocation?
To all the CYSG apologists and dreamers, read Renee's post below very carefully.
SeeClear : I just checked OTC Pink Sheets and CYSG's delinquent Financials are not posted .
Cape must minimally file unaudited Financials to circumvent CUSIP revocation . That still won't remove the Caveat Emptor and it will NOT move CYSG off the Grey Sheets , but at least it would prevent cancellation / revocation of the stock .
For any stock that has had an SEC Administrative Suspension and sent to the Grey Sheets , to regain quotation and a MM representation CAPE would need to meet at least one Market Maker's requirements so that the MM would bear NO RISK in making a market for CYSG . It is my considered opinion that the only way any Market Maker will ever take the risk of making a market for CYSG is if Cape Systems audits their Financials .
MM's will not risk the wrath of the SEC if Cape files unaudited Financials because the Market Maker who may consider making a market for CYSG assumes 100 % responsibility for the veracity of the suspended Security's Financials , and the ONLY way a Market Maker will assume that responsibility is with AUDITED Financials and Cape filing a Form 211 / 15c2-11 . Even with AUDITED Fins and Form 211 / 15c2-11 a Market Maker would still take great caution BEFORE representing CYSG because the MM would ensure there are no other SEC Regulatory Issues with Cape Systems .
I am not trying to antagonize or burst any bubbles but CYSG will not open on Pink Sheets with any quoted market tomorrow .
REPOST: SCs conversation with Toms...
I have spoke with Nic Toms and have had time to discuss the Current Standing of CYSG and have received with his permission to convey the Following Message... The message is as such...
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Expect a PR addressing the current state of CYSG that will bring clarification and to expect normal trading as of Nov 2/10' We will not be trading on the Greys!..Expect the PR as early as Friday October 22nd or as late as early next week!... Nicolas R. Toms
Maybe he's planning to take this one to the grey's too.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
Hence the Caveat Emptor label that's assigned to CYSG on otcmarkets.com
To remember these are NOT two bit Pink Sheet boys
Don't worry, they released a PR to another collective "yawn". DNPI volume is so low, it looks like it's been suspended too.
Trust me, a lot of people are learning a lesson here.
REPOST: SCs conversation with Toms...
I have spoke with Nic Toms and have had time to discuss the Current Standing of CYSG and have received with his permission to convey the Following Message... The message is as such...
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Expect a PR addressing the current state of CYSG that will bring clarification and to expect normal trading as of Nov 2/10' We will not be trading on the Greys!..Expect the PR as early as Friday October 22nd or as late as early next week!... Nicolas R. Toms
He said it here and the message was stickied, until if failed, you're welcome....
REPOST: SCs conversation with Toms...
I have spoke with Nic Toms and have had time to discuss the Current Standing of CYSG and have received with his permission to convey the Following Message... The message is as such...
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Expect a PR addressing the current state of CYSG that will bring clarification and to expect normal trading as of Nov 2/10' We will not be trading on the Greys!..Expect the PR as early as Friday October 22nd or as late as early next week!... Nicolas R. Toms
Me2, go ahead and sticky the message from Toms that this would not trade on the grey, and while you're at it sticky the seeclear post from yesterday that this would be trading on pinksheets.
Thanks.
Why is it "kinda dicey"?
Toms said this would not be trading on the grey's.
Well, well, well...what do we have here.
In the immortal words of Sting, "I'm so happy, I can't stop crying."
Me2, why did you remove this post as a sticky?
REPOST: SCs conversation with Toms...
I have spoke with Nic Toms and have had time to discuss the Current Standing of CYSG and have received with his permission to convey the Following Message... The message is as such...
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Expect a PR addressing the current state of CYSG that will bring clarification and to expect normal trading as of Nov 2/10' We will not be trading on the Greys!..Expect the PR as early as Friday October 22nd or as late as early next week!... Nicolas R. Toms
Renee has this one pegged. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck....
The list of broken promises and misinformation is now a mile long. It's clear that Toms intends to deal with NIR by sacrificing CYSG stock.
The irony is, Toms WILL profit from the business side and look like a winner as seeclear has promised, but the CYSG bagholders get the shaft.
Renee has this pegged. The damage is done, once this was suspended every investor became a hostage. So at this point, NO ONE HAS A CHOICE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET OUT.
It doesn't matter if anyone trusts Toms or not, but his track record of misinformation and non communication speaks volumes.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....
Thanks Renee, I guess we'll find out soon enough, though I'm not very optimistic that this will be saved from the NIR disaster.
Seeclear has maintained that Toms has every good intention for CYSG. We're going to find out if that's truth or fiction very soon.
Thanks again Renee. I would like to hear your thoughts/comments on Booger's most recent post.
Do you think CYSG will be left as a shell?
seeclear, i'll try to recover from finding out that you disagree with me.
Constant inaccurate disclosure is WORSE than non-disclosure. It makes you look silly and calls into question your leader's credibility.
This will play itself out, and soon thanks to the SEC, with or without all of the failed promises of communication.
Thanks Renee.
so be wary of news releases . And , if CYSG were to use news releases to sell shares via NIR the SEC would likely move quickly to revoke the stock .
seeclear...it would probably be better if you just stopped posting anything related to timelines. Obviously speculation like "friday or early next week at the latest" or "by the end of this week" and "@ Oct 15th" isn't really helping your credibility.
You may be Nic Toms best friend, and he may be feeding you all of this, but it's time to under promise and over deliver.
Just let the pr or merger or financials or end of the world happen and we'll discuss it after the fact. The misinformation on timelines isn't helping anyone.