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JJ, did you forget about the same claims from Tobin concernin Olatoa, Issac and his own group that was goona buy all available shares? The story (stories) is straight the SEC just needs to act on Tobins p&d game
Hey it's the kid that sells hho units for HLNT.
No wonder you're testy. I think ECMH should do the hho thing the right way Voodoo kid. Make somethin that actually woeks as part of an engine fuel system. You should be interested it that too. after all iot is technology that sems to have your interest. Like I said long ago while you dudes choose to disagree "no company has done the hho injection thing right yet and virtually all have proven to be scams run by long time scammers. Hydrogen gas as a fuel addition does work though. Just need some company like ECMH to take it on and do it right. You're findin that out now.
Sparky.
I see you're feelin the pain, bro. I always make predictions. Probably won't stop. Are ya gettin some NIR knowledge over on that other board?
Didn't go anywhere Loanboy.
Workin on a project right now. I call it a project here anyway. I see some a the smarter boys are on to ya dude.
Likely see a BK. Now does NIR still have the nads to play the Medgen game today? Probably.
Hey flash.
Everyone's a bit jumpy in that fight. So does it become a share machine for NIR or a 100k shell?
NIR, bashing, shorting, HLNT, Humphries, GELMON
Many posters on Ihub seem to have no idea how Hedge Funds such as NIR work. Folks, it's all about HEDGING your bet. I pick HLNT as an example because they are presently in court with NIR, the HLNT past CEO admitted to securities fraud violation, is cooperating with prosecution and was partners with Michael Gelmon and Mel Robinson. His other partned Buckeye Epstein lied to authorities while claimin to cooperate and is now serving time in prison.
The HLNT posters seem to think NIR is bashing their company because they are in court with HLNT. That makes no sense. NIR wants to force the goose to lay golden eggs not kill the goose. It doesn't take much thought to figure out that those who want to HEDGE their bet (NIR) don't try to drive the pps down. HLNT owes NIR over 6 million bucks and claims they know nothing about ever receiving funds despite converting shares to pay the supposed phantom debt. Trust me folks NIR is not bashing their Golden Goose HLNT.
On the surface NIR makes money by receiving shares to pay hard money loan payments due by the funded company (HLNT). NIR gets these shares at a deep discount. If the pps rises NIR does even better. The "hedge" here is the discount. NIR dumps shares as fast as possible and doesn't play the pump or bash game.
Another potential hedge is the shorting game. NIR knows damn well that their funded companies usually take a fast and uniform pps dive. NIR and those that call the shots there are 100% focused on hedging their bet on the funded company. In the case of HLNT this gets very interesztin for several reasons.
1. It's been shown that HLNT CEO Steven Humphries worked in concert with Corey R. at NIR.
2. Humphries was partners with a suspected NIR shortin accomplice named Michael Gelmon.
3. Humphries has pled guilty to securities fraud that also involved his son and is cooperating with the prosecution now to avoid additional charges and shorten his sentence.
4. The sole director appointed by Humphries when he got caught was Mel Robinson who is also a convicted fraud felon.
The ultimate hedge for a funding hedge fund would be as follows.
1. Convert shares at the deep discount and sell those shares into the market as fast as possible. This usually produces a 50% gross return since the fund receives shares at their discount no matter what the pps is at on the conversion day. NIR would be best served to have pumpers not bashes working the boards to provide better liquidity and a more stable or holdin pps.
2. While #1 above is taking place the pps is almost always dropping simple due to the huge amt. of shares NIR is dumpin into the market. The hedge thst would help return a huge profit would be to bet on that pps drop. That's done by shorting the stock (HLNT). This needs to be done by a third party so the Hedge Fund is not in breach of terms and drawing SEC eyes for shorting their funded companies. Some claim Michael Gelmon and his brother Cory have this function with NIR. In fact they are suspected by some of shorting their own companies in an insider hedge opperation that includes issueing shares to yourself and shorting your own company.
It doesn't take a lot of thought to see how these folks would evaluate a hedge opportunity when it presents itself. A quick look at the HLNT management and their association with Gelmon makes this company (HLNT) very interestin. Add that the past CEO Steven Humphries is tryin ta save his and his sons ass by cooperating with authorities looking into all Humphries companies and associations and it gets mega interestin.
The bottom line is that NIR doesn't bash it's funded companies, period. That would be stupid and they're not that. They don't have to bash. Just dump shares as fast as possible and if the shortin position is taken the dumpin act itself insures success there.
Since I can't PM and I'm banned on the other site and stated so in the post, I thought you'd figure out that I knew which board I was postin on. So now that we have that outta the way and ya have my email the balls yours ta do what ya want with it.
Ah, the full package, original version.
Carry on. This model has a proven track record. Produces results. I'd bet on it. Or someone would for me.
Gail, try clickin your heals together and thinkin happy thoughts. When that doesn't work look for someone interested in a dirty shell. Those are your two options if tradin these shares are your objective. Wishin and hopin probably won't make this dog hunt again.
Woog, with or without "Springtime for Hitler and Germany"?
Sky. I received your PM but can't respond with my free Ihub membership. I do have the answer to your question. You can email me at fupd@hush.com
I'm banned on the other board for postin info that has all been proven true. My posts were just too early for anyone to understand. Not anymore, but the ban is still in effect.
I saw that in my Comu DD search hugh.
They fell apart so after. Wonder how the shares were issued in that cluster job?
O it flys Nik but if your buddy wants to contact me he can do so.
I've posted my email address several times. He can tell me he was introduced as CEO by mistake and didn't correct it for what ever reasons he had. I post his position on the subject if I hear from him.
OK so what do ya have on the guys I asked about?
I assume you know somethin about the players, their pasts and their links to each other.
What's the connection between CJ Comu and NIR Group?
Also between Comu, Steven Humphries and Buckeye Epstein?
NIR funded Comu's ventures even though they were in court against each other several times for non payment of Convertable Notes.
Bucheye Epstein was the president of SUNR until Comu fired him. He then hooked up with Humphries who also got funded on a regular basis by NIR. They also started another company with Michael Gelmon who has been named in several articles and posts as NIR's stock shorting associate.
This company SUNR was associated with all of the above. In fact there is a court case involving NIR right now that contains an email from Humphries to NIR asking about the SUNR Shareholderts List he was to receive from Corey Ribotsky of NIR.
I'd say these questions are about as ON Topic as it gets in regard to SUNR even though some might not want them asked on a public stock board.
Here's the facts Nik.
Mel Robinson was appointed as the sole Director of HLNT by Steven Humphries, Buckeye Epstein and Chris Humphries. Robinson then hand picked his fellow director from his usual Arkansas buddies. He ended up appointin a local plumber as CEO named Chad Coats and Mel became the Board Chairman and CFO. As of late Robinson is being called the CEO. That info comes from video posted by your buddies on the HLNT board. HLNT doesn't report so there is no way of tellin if Coats left yet. In ant case Robinson is having himself introduced as the CEO of HLNT. It is possible and likely that he becomes whatever he needs to be depending on the event. When it comes to signing docs that could come back to bite Robinson likes to have fallguys sign those. You and josey seem to make a huge deal out of the CEO thing. Seems to me you also like to keep the spotlight off Robinson. So call him whatever you want, I could care less. We both know he calls the shots with Charles Foster no matter what title he uses at which event.
I finally agree with somethin ya post Sparky.
I've thought a lot about Chris Humphries. He's connected at many levels. Don't you worry. It hasn't gone unnoticed. Sasvin the kids butt from prison should be his Dad's driving force along with his own. Why protect the scammers now? You also know Mel Robinson was right in the middle of it all too. He's been a target for a long time. A lot a people are not sleeping well right now.
Even more yet.
I see why Corey would have the SUNR shareholder list. They also funded them for Epstein and Comu. Then they hooked Epstein up with suspected shortin partner Gelmom.
So they nkept fundin comu and friends and then Humphries and friens and never got paid? How's that NIR business model work that returned those numbers they claimed? When Humphries gets done talkin we may see a roundup of his friends for their turn in the chair with the bare light bulb above it.
http://www.fightlinker.com/another-mma-company-gets-financing
Hugh, there's more.
Looks like NIR just funded these boys and then went to court. If they started another company the got funded again. Are the lawsuits starin ta look like a cover?
C J Comu again. This time it's Humitech International Group Inc.
Check out this case.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/texas/txndce/3:2006cv01180/158678/
Hugh, I found this NIR case which is interestin.
https://ecf.txnd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2006cv1180-16
This dude C.J.Comu was the partner of Buckeye Epstein at Sun Sports & Entertainment SUNR. Comu fired Epstein and Epstein patnered up with Steven Humphries at Systems Evolution which is not HLNT a company of interest to us both, Besides SUNP and Airtech Comu also started Humitech and Barclay Group Inc. I'll lok more into them later.
Now here's the interestin things to me. MIR sues Comu. Comu starts SUNR with Epstein. Comu cans Epstein. Epstein joins Steven Humphries, David Walters and Michael Gelmon. Nice group, right? Ribotsky, Dworkin and Yellen know damn well what's up with this crew. So NIR funds these dudes over 10 million bucks? These dudes don't pay debt, they scheme. Oh I forgot Mel Robinson was also part of the group, he's the present guy in charge at HLNT who's also in court with NIR.
Epstein claimed to have been honest with the Feds after his arrest and was sent to prison last week. Hugh, why is NIR fundin these clowns? They know their games well. There's a different hedge goin down with these companies. Have ya read much on Gelmon and shorting?
I'm sure you've noticed how hard some posters are workin ta bury information like this. I posted on the SUNR board askin questions about Epstein and Comu. I wanted an answer to your question. "Why was Steven Humphries askin Ribotsky about a SUNR shareholders roster Ribotsky seemed to have. Why would corey have that roster?
Now we have steven Humphries being interviewed by the FEDS as was his partner Epstein. Their other partner Mel Robinson is in court with NIR. ARE READERS STARTIN TA SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE hUMPHRIES TESTIMONY GOIN ON RIGHT NOW? Humphries is lookin at a long time in prison. He has the goods on Robinson, Gelmon, Walters and NIR. I expect you've had time to look over Exhibit N. That doc gets more interestin by the day. I find it awful funny when the HLNT posters asked me why I was askin so many questions. Now you and Xray are gettin the same.
Say hi to one of your old buddies. Buckeye.
http://www.jailbase.com/en/arrested/fl-bso/2011-02-02/john-buckeye-epstein-901100043
Here's why Hugh.
This Hlnt thing gets weirder by the day. It was Buckeye Epsteins company. The same dude that just went to prison and was a director of HLNT.
http://uscombatsports.com/?view=items&cid=182%253Anews&id=2919%253Ais-the-art-of-war-a-sinking-ship&pop=1&tmpl=component&print=1&option=com_flexicontent&Itemid=95
This 14C should end this scam.
http://www.secinfo.com/dV3p8.qEc.htm
That must be new knowledge for you. About 20 mins. ago ya asked me why I don't post it on the HLNT board.
Some of what I post isn't gonna make a lota sense for a while. You've been around long enough ta know that it will soon. Just leave it along and accept my claim that I don't waste anyones time with nonsense that doesn't apply now or in the near future. So you go ahead and do it your way and i'll do it mine. I won't and never have question your logic or told you how to post. Know why? Cause I don't know what you know anw where you're goin with it. In my world, that's your business. Also keep in mind that many times i'm actually talkin to others and directin them to look at certain events. I know it always doesn't make sense to some but believe me it does to those that count. So that's about all I have ta say to ya about this. I didn't initiate it in the first place. It's now all forgotten and we're back to square one as it should be.
And there you have it flash.
Now if ListeToMe figures out that NIR suspected shorting 3rd party Michael Gelmon is a partner of HLNT exCEO Steven Humphries who is right now being debriefed on his NIR association by the FBI he'll understand why HLNT is on topic here. Add in that NIR has added steam by suing HLNT in New York and it even gets more clear. Maybe ListenToMe is the one who needs to fess up about deleting important posts here cause he didn't understand what is goin down.
ListentoMe keep this in mind.
Back off. I don't waste time talkin about events and companies that are relevant to the subject at hand or the board I post it on. I suspect you're not up ta speed on where this is all gonna end up or you wouldn't have posted that nonsense. Any company that is funded by NIR, is in court with NIR and has an exCEO testifying about NIR corruption is about as on topic as it gets here. 1If you don't understand that or agree with it I suggest you just sit back, watch and see just how on topic it all is. Got any problem with that?
X & Flash.
X I did read Exhibit N in the NIR case. It pretty much tells the HLNT story.
Guys, I've read the language in several NIR notes regarding shorting the funded company. IT IS A BREACH. NOT ALLOWED PER NOTE TERMS. as I posted before I have no seen the HLNT notes and also posted my thoughts if that typical NIR note language was missin.
That all fits like a glove here X.
NIR notes do have that language. Now we get to hear the guys who you can't believe a word they say tryin ta sxave their butt from prison. It's gonna be a circus around here.
I know you know different X but no one quite understood my infatuation with HLNT and that smoke and mirrors. I think they might be gettin the picture now. I see it has kicked up quite a flurry of "this is a wonderful, honest company" type posts over on that board. I also watch Yahoo and the tactic there like here is to delete all posts you can and if you can't, bury them as far down the list as possible. I really like the questions you and Hugh are askin. Seems I'm the only one that does.
He may be the only one left who doesn't barf when he sees a Tobin Smith video. The man is that clueless. He's become a laughing stock stooge and is the last to catch on.
It appears in the notes I've seen X.
I haven't seen the HLNT notes. Two interestin scenarios though. If it's not in their notes it was left out for a reason. Put together Ribotshy, Gelmom, Humphries, Epstein and Robinson and you can figure out the reason. On the other hand if it is in the HLNT notes and Humphries exposes the shortin scheme HLNT and every other NIR funded company would have a field day wit NIR. Therein lies my recomendation that Humphries spills it all, and I meean ALL or gets 10 t0 20. The man is in a unique position right now. Different from what I've seen in the past. Much more far reaching.
You got it, that's your boy.
Partnered up with steven Humphries at Systems Evolution, now named Highline Technical Innovations HLNT. Humphries and Epstein got caught in the FBI securities fraud sting and pled guilty. Both had cooperation clauses in their plea agreement. Before sentencing Epstein claimed to cooperate but lied to the prosecution. He was sentenced on 2-2-11. Steven Humphries is up next. Humphries appointed another fraud felon Mel Robinson as the sole director of HLNT when he left to go to prison which hasn't happened yet because he's talkin. In the meantime HLNT is fightin the NIR Group Hedge Fund in court in N York. Robinson is claimin Humphries worked with or for NIR. Humphries also worked with Michael Gelmon who also has ties to NIR and is claimed by some to be the "stock short seller" for NIR. You boy Humphries now takes center stage in that massive investigation. Question is, will he lie like Epstein and do a lot of prison time or will he fess up and possibly walk?
If that's what ya think it's fine with me. Don't waste any money in court playin that hand. You'll be 50 grand poorer and still be payin the notes.
Don't think that's the case rca.
NIR loans are subject to rule 144. The notes age at least 6 months before they are able to convert. If you're talkin about the HLNT notes which I think you are, those are well past 144 restriction dates. It's old paper. No matter what those HLNT dudes post NIR will not settle unless HLNT starts convertin and does so upon NIR request. That request comes as fast as the previous received shares are dumped and I do mean dumped. NIR doesn't hold shares. This HLNT group is completely clueless as to hoe the funds work. They actually post and some believe that the fund Whalehaven has invested in their company.
There is one chance and one only for HLNT. That is if their last CEO Steven Humphries exposes a shorting of HLNT shares by NIR affiliates. That's a breach of note terms and would sink NIR if the claim sticks. Humphries also worked with Michael Gelmon which screams shortin game to me. Anyone interested in NIR should be watchin Humphries testimony closely. Better yet, watch events cause his testimony won't go public for some time. In the mean time the NIR v HLNT case is movin forward. Humphries was the CEO of HLNT so they may get info fast if that case is used to make shorting claims. The Feds don't share much info though. Especially since Humphries put another convicted fraud felon in place at HLNT when he was caught in the FBI sting. The new dude is Mel Robinson and his history is long and dirty. The HLNT insider posters are doing a poor job of protectin his reputation. All of this just makes the NIR v HLNT case more interestin and important. I believe that HLNT had another game in mind after gettin named in the NIR Complaint. More on that will come.
Hugh I just got an email from a friend.
Seems that HLNT is startin ta draw new attention. Some poster showed up with the Steven Humphries, Michael Gelmon connection. To my knowledge that's been kept quiet and not mentioned on any board. Have you seen it mentioned? Humphries and Gelmon were workin side by side as was the new HLNT leader Mel Robinson. Now the shortin game gets more interestin or at least more public in this case. Ya need an earth mover to remove the dirt coverin this crew. Gelmon and shortin are like bread and butter. Humphries is talkin right now about his buddies Robinson, Ribotsky, Gelmon and Walters. Now if I'm doin that debriefing Humphries has one big issue and one big exit door. He talks and walks or he spends 10 to 20 in the Funhouse. This dude probably has the shortin dirt on Ribotsky and the Gelmons. Time ta also trot Dworkin and Yellen back in to see if the stories match. Did ya notice how they used the dude Epstein ta send a message to the boys awaitin sentencing? Could get interestin here bro. All we need now is Kravitz fightin foe his freedom.
Ya, no doubt the heat is up as of late, Dancer.
NIR really hit the radar when NORMA was startin ta go south and that was a few years ago.
Is this how ya dancewithmoney?
Here's one of the HLNT guys that provided info on NIR. It proved to be false info and the prosecutor reversed his recomendation for a light sentence. The main guy Steven Humphries is talking now. Probably with a new view of reality.
http://www.jailbase.com/en/arrested/fl-bso/2011-02-02/john-buckeye-epstein-901100043
I get plenty of calls but never a knock on the door, josey.
The odds are better for the Prosecution if that's what ya mean. Not good for HLNT or NIR though. Remember this. Not one talker yet hasn't been dirty himself. All are tryin ta save their own ass from a long prison stay. I will tell you now that there are some that are totally clean that have house of cards tumblin info. They are much smarter and patient then the ones up for sentencing. The Feds are buildin a testimony portfolio right now. I've posted here where to look for the real ammo. You seem to think the NIR v HLNT case has some weight. It doesn't but Humphries might. He's talkin now. They're in S. Florida talkin. They need to talk about S. Florida people and entities. End of story for today.
Depends on the day.
As long as he had Alvarez, Tay and Issac on tape makin claims and Tobin gettin the same from some bs investment group i believe he may have gone as high as 1500%. It likely had a direct relationship to the amount of shares he received on the particular day. That and the dump plan they discussed off camera. Chances are I'm not on any of their Christmas Card lists.
Fine people. Who good possibly pass on this deal Tobin backs with his 1000% guarantee?