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SPIN remember we have women and children invested in this stock.
vulgarity, and this is the last time I will respond to any deleted post.
Posts are deleted for vulgarity, spam, request of poster (if immeditate) duplicate post. personal attack, violation of privacy and threat. These are the only reasons for deletion. If I delete a post it is for one of these reasons. This is the last time I will respond to why a post is deleted. All the reasons are here.
mbarr, again you mislead. Please show us where Wave is running out of cash in 3-4 months. I believe as of the last PP they generated enough cash to last them until 2005 along with resonably expected revenues.
How many companies do you know that are still in business after 10 years without any revenues? There MUST be a reason they are still in business, no?
eamonnshute, Nelzoni's operation was good. It is now a matter of following up and getting the results of the operation.
SPIN, I can assure you that anyone that is suspended or put in jail is because of their conduct and not their views or content.
Matt is very much against trying to stop someone from airing their views. It is the way it is presented that prompt a deletion, suspension and jail. Norhing more and nothing less.
SPIN WRONG. You said: edit BTK
"but as most of you already know, he was eventually run out of the Wave "community" on a rail for speaking his mind when it didn't comport w/the collective norms & mores of the entrenched".
WRONG SPIN
First of all I had nothing to do with his being 'run out of town', that decision was made by IHUB.
Second of all he was 'run out of town' BY IHUB because he did not conform to the rules of IHUB. Simple as that.
But thanks for the spin anyway.
Your friend,
Just a note to let everyone know that Nelzoni's operation today went very well. It will be a few more days to determine the out come of the operation, but the operation itself went well. I will have more information tomorrow.
Guv, I resent you saying this because you THINK you know what I am saying and it is a lie. Go promote this somewhere else. I never said or implied this in the least.
Snack; Essentially your reply to me says "go away" (you have a habit of this) and it's because I didn't wave the pom poms with enough fervor.
guv, apparently you did not read my response to you correctly.
I did not denigrate you to the likes of Fang, HHH, ConcreteBob, et. al. All I said was that what you said in your post was wrong in my opinion, nothing more and nothing less. To suggest otherwise is not the truth.
You might want to read it again and tell me where I denigrated you.
It gets real frustrating when people say you said something which is a lie.
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Posted by: Snackman
In reply to: theguvna88 who wrote msg# 22281
Date:12/9/2003 1:09:34 AM
Post #of 22326
gov, I find everything in your post incorrect. I don't think this is the stock for you. Just my opinion.
gov, I find everything in your post incorrect. I don't think this is the stock for you. Just my opinion.
jeff, you put me on ignore you won't have to read it anymore.
I don't deny it.
bonnie, let me be clear. I believe we will have 24 quarters of double digit increases in revenues instead of 4. What's wrong with that? Would you rather have 4 instead of 24?
Other companies have enjoyed that, why not Wave?
Sam, you will see the terms when the revenues come out each quarter. As long as we have double digit revenue increases for the next 24 quarters, that is all that matters.
dig I wasn't asking for your goals in life only your goal regarding this investment.
This is a pretty tight community. We even know where the bashers stand as to their holdings in this stock.
I am not asking you what you own only if you own stock at all in Wave.
As to ever using another handle, if you have nothing to hide, a simple yes or no would suffice.
Yes, most of us know about each other as to long or short, positive or negative, having used another handle or not. If you find this rude so be it. But honesty is the best policy.
Dig, a couple questions if I may. Everyone knows where I stand: long time investor for many years and one that believe in what management is doing.
How did you hear about Wave? Are you holding stock now? What are your goals? Are you here for the long term or are you a short term trader, which is O.K. I would just like to know where you are coming from if that's O.K.
One last question: have you ever been on RB or used another handle?
dig it seems to me you just want to stir things up where there is nothing to stir up.
The revenues to Wave will be between $.50 and $1.50 for each board deployed. Each deal is separate between companies. Wave is not going to be successful on these transactions. This is small potatoes. The real revenues will come from Trusted services.
You have a dozen posts on this subject already and it is wasted space in my opinion, a non issue.
The real issue is how many TS are generated. When that happens your arguement, or whatever you want to call it, becomes mute, meaningless.
dj, so as not to debate this on the board, you have a PM.
Mig don't sweat it. We are not going to $5.00 next week I don't think. (We should be hearing from DJ any minute on how bad this stock is lol)
Nothing much is going to happen until we have revenues and or revenue projections, so I see this stock trading in a very narrow range for the next 6 months. Accept it, it's not going to change much up or down.
Weby, I had an empty frame on my desk. I think I will print this post and put it in there so I can look at it everytime they post.
Whatever.
Sorry, no time to go look for it. If you go to the CCs you will find it yourself.
dig, first of all the CEO said between $.50 and $1.50. Most believe it is around $1.00 per board. Second, the $1.00 is chump change. The money is in the trusted services that will be bought.
Very interesting article. About some friends of Wave.
Forbes Magazine
The Futurist
Thursday December 4, 6:33 pm ET
By Michael Maiello
Mark Stahlman, once a skeptic on the overblown technology sector, is a big fan of certain tech stocks now--the ones that will lead us to the age of virtual computing. He likes IBM and Sun
Mark Stahlman has zeal for technology's future that reminds you of your favorite professor in college. Attending a tech conference recently, he e-mailed: "I'm here in Las Vegas, and HP is about to report!" This with the enthusiasm of someone headed for high-stakes-table action at the Bellagio. At 55, former Alex. Brown & Sons analyst Stahlman has carved out a rep as a tech-trend prophet who had called the sector's bust and now sees a muted boom.
Today this futurist thinks that the next big thing is something called "virtual computing." This is a system that promises to eliminate hard drives and programs on desktop computers. Everything will be handled out of a central database, meaning good times ahead for servermakers like Sun Microsystems and diversified equipment manufacturers and service providers like IBM.
His bona fides? He left investment banking in 1993, convinced that the tech market was getting a little too frothy. Okay, he was seven years too early and missed much of the bull market, but he did spend the rest of the decade penning prescient (and attention-getting) articles about how tech would change the world--incrementally, not all at once, as some preached then. In a 1994 essay for Wired magazine called "The Infobahn is a Big, Fat Joke," he argued that the cable operators and Baby Bells would not annihilate one another; instead, each would move to protect its traditional monopolies. That's pretty much what happened. The blunt-spoken Stahlman once slammed investors in the then- high-flying multimedia outfit 3DO, saying they were "drinking Kool-Aid."
After quitting the investment world, he headed a New York advisory group called New Media Associates, where he gets credit (in some circles, anyway) for coining the term "Silicon Alley," the area of Manhattan where dot-com startups thrived.
Now he's back in the investing game, joining a year-old boutique research shop in Greenwich, Conn. called American Technology Research, or Amtech, a place of kindred spirits intent on divining the road ahead. Both Stahlman and his firm are bullish on tech these days. Fellow analyst Richard Whittington bucked Wall Street in October 2002 by issuing buy ratings on 11 of the 16 semiconductor stocks he covered. Whittington told investors to buy some chip stocks immediately, some more around Thanksgiving and the rest in January. Whittington's October picks, which included Analog Devices and International Rectifier, are up 94% since then.
The prospect of an emerging tech boom, albeit a slower boom than in the late 1990s, inspired Stahlman to make his bold prediction about how computers will change. In an August note from Amtech, Stahlman introduced the concept of the "Virtual Computing Cloud" as heir to the World Wide Web. Google, says Stahlman, is an example of a program that just about everyone uses but that nobody has to own or download.
Eventually, Stahlman believes, computer power will be sold like electricity, with users pulling down the services and processing power they need from a network of servers. It is "virtual" because the new system will hide from the user all the complexity of multiple databases and the like. "We are currently in the beginning phase of the next platform cycle," he says, "which will last 10 to 15 years."
One example of Stahlman's devotion to the virtual computing story is in his coverage of PC-maker Dell Computer. Stahlman recently upgraded it from hold to buy. Previously Stahlman believed that Dell would lose out by continuing to build traditional desktops and laptops as customers abandoned them. Then, in October Stahlman upgraded the stock after Michael Dell publicly embraced virtual computing. Although Dell hasn't yet said how he will adapt to the new market, Stahlman was pleased to hear the technology tycoon's new thinking.
Thus far, says Stahlman, virtual computing is not on Wall Street's scope. "Research is so atrophied," he says. In September, he chortles, the information technology department at Morgan Stanley spent the day explaining virtual computing to buy-side analysts, but Morgan's sales force analysts, like Mary Meeker, weren't there.
Still, Stahlman, who has a bachelor's degree in philosophy and studied for doctorates in both theology and molecular genetics, is no blind believer in anything. In the 1990s he recognized that the Internet would be a powerful tool, yet he loved to tweak its more ardent devotees. He spent a lot of time in public discussion with other futurists who speculated about a new era of humanity ("posthuman") and predicted that a blending of biotechnology and access to free and wide-ranging data networks would liberate us all from the constraints of materialism, the market and even mortality.
Big investors were clearly more interested in providing business-to-business networks and searchable databases, he argued. The Internet, said Stahlman, would aid the society that already exists, rather than alter it be-yond recognition.
Three years after the crash, Stahlman says that the era of tactical cost-cutting to purge 1990s excesses is over, and he now expects "a major outflow of capital to the technology sector" that will be supported by low interest rates and low inflation.
Stahlman covers established technology players who are sure to benefit from virtual computing without asking investors to endure the risks of yesteryear's startups. That's why he has great faith in established hardware players (such as IBM) that will make virtual computing happen. He is less enamored of software makers or Web enterprises like Amazon--stocks that have received the biggest boosts in the current rally.
Nevertheless, to Stahlman the Nasdaq's stunning run-up this year (45% versus a tamer 20% for the S&P 500) is entirely justified. "The stock market discounts future growth," he says. "We are currently in the equivalent of 1988, before the network-driven growth and the 1990s."
Stahlman's colleagues, who cover different areas, also are ardent about their winners for the new age. Whittington thinks Advanced Micro Devices' new 64-bit chip is well positioned; significantly, AMD is teaming up with Sun to counter the threat from Intel-based servers. Amtech's telecom analyst, Albert Lin, believes that cell phones' growth is just beginning. In this sector his favorite is Verizon, whose mastery of wireless is daunting.
What's vexing about making calls on future technology is that you can be right about the science and wrong about the players. You might be backing today's Studebaker when your money should be on General Motors. Stahlman and his pals are convinced they can identify the GMs.
go-kitesurf I believe in tools you can filter out responses to ignored posters.
Boy, is day trading fun. Just bought all my shares back plus some at $2.08 a few minutes ago. No more trading for me for awhile. And I don't even use Larry's TA!
That's your opinion not shared by most here. But again, we don't hate the Spragues like you do.
BArge, not so loud. I'm trying to go full circle today as a day trader. I have a buy in at $2.10 (sold earlier at $2.30) (g)
D&O it took me 7 years to sell anything, I don't think I will be selling again today. (g)
Is there one last run left for today?
This seems interesting:
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dhamster, here is what I got with the traditional translation.
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greg s how do you read this? Is it still a beta?
dig, what are you saying? That Wave is not on board Intel's board? What am I missing?
dig, things are good. It's only a matter of time now until revenues begin to flow. With Intel shipping and promoting the board we are on, it's assured some revenues will materialize this quarter or next. I still believe the majority of Wave's revenues will come in the 2nd half of 2004. But those revenues will be in the millions. Wave has never had revenues, and the 'millions' will be the catalysis that drives the share price north in the future. All in my opinion of course.
dig, looks like you have a lot of catching up to do. Go to the anchor post for this thread and click on all the links. It will probably take you at least a day to read everything that we have accumulated. Make sure you read every CC on UncleverName's website. I think your questions will all be answered there.
VC my wife is very happy. Now on to $3.00 and hopefully we will never revisit $2.00 again.
Well, I can no longer say I have never sold a share. I sold a few thousand shares today (2% of my holdings) of my $.87 buy in at $2.30. I guess I'm a trader now. (g)
Finallythere thanks for all the great links this evening.
To take safer computing solutions to the next level, Intel is now introducing a new generation of motherboards (Notice it says motherboards with an "S"). This solution combines hardware, software, and firmware components to support a more protected environment. With an onboard Trusted Platform Module (TPM), this motherboard provides hardware-based protection to enhance software-based security including encryption and digital signature keys that help secure data confidentiality.
By providing these elements with their motherboards, Intel has created an easily deployed, more robust and more secure solution for businesses concerned about platform security.