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Forgot to answer my question and your claims, josey.
You're in the same boat you've been in since the first day I heard your name. You can make all the threats ya want about the SEC but what it comes down to is you're just blowin smoke. Like Smoke and Mirrors. You've post that this company does not exist, that I've posted flagrant lies and mislead readers about HYHY. I don't think any of that is your real concern. Your concern is that I'm here postin about HYHY and the competition in the business of promotin HHO. But if I wrong about that it would still seem logical to ask you to post the quotes from me that you refer to as flagrant lies and misrepresentations. If ya can't I'd say ta have a different agenda than ya claim. So get wit it, bro.
Everyone on the planet knows that answer. You know that, you posted it.
My DD.
I've posted some links here on where to start the DD. Remember this, no matter what I know I only post here on Ihub about public information available to all who look. If ya got a question about a specific point let me know and I'll respond here unless you ask otherwise. Bout all I can say now is that my DD is extensive. I don't lead it, it leads me. The best I can give you right now is that my DD on electrostatic fuel bombs lead me to two hho companies with the exact same promotional template. Both companies are headed up or were by felons and scammers of the highest order. Some will post that I'm full of crp and make this all up or that I'm associated with one company or another. They are wrong but it's up ta you ta figure that out for yourself. Me tellin you that is just words. Do the DD and you'll find out who's postin facts. I also listed some names in a post that will lead right to what I'm sayin. Follow up if ya have the time and interest. To save time start by Googlin Jim Bolt, Oklahoma City Bombing, Then work through Elgindy, Khashoggi, Curshen, Taub and Red Sea Management.
Warren, I emailed a buddy yesterday about that kind a activity from him. The dude just has no class. I could go into plenty about that but it would get deleted.
Here's what I really see happenin. He's gonna screw NIR investors bigtime. Kiss your investment goodby or get on with a plan of action. From the funded company standpoint it'll be business as usual. Give me shares and I'll travel to Florida and pay legal fees type a stuff. As soon as NIR stops the legal battles they are done cause no company will convert shares. In fact it looks like many have stopped converting now. If all got together and stopped it would be lights out but they aren't that organized. So investors will get screwed and Corey will try ta keep up the cash flow so he can stay in court, hold off the Feds and travel with some dressed up sow.
Like puttin lipstick on a pig.
The pig (HLNT) is gonna look better for a day or two but it's still a pig. Had to fire 3 web designers? Come on dude. Ask em about that reporting transparenc promiset next time. Or the Preferred Share distribution details. Or the company obligations to the directors. You know, the Directors that Humphries called "Mel's Arkansas Team"
Dude, I feel for ya.
Corey was livin it up while he knew dudes like you (investors) were payin the bill? All after that last letter too. Dude needs ta be put away for a long time.
Dude, where ya been the last year.
They've been bailin at NIR left and right. Yep it also looks like NIR is fallin fast. Remember that exit strategy I've been postin about. So next in line is the Trustee who is there ta protect the investors. He'll be fightin for em in your proposed chain of events. That means he'll get tossed the various litigations. He'll have court support and the new venue will be Bankruptch Court. Good luck on those HLNT claims that their CEO was guided by Ribotsky and shouldn't have ta pay debt. HLNT won't last long enough ta get a decision on that one. End of day, no NIR, no HLNT, gonna miss em both.
Nik are ya talkin about the one I said was comin 3 years ago and what would be the catalyist? Yah that one bro. Remember, you're postin to dudes that have been readin my posts for years on what's going down now. Lately they've read my posts on HLNT because their CEO is testifyin about NIR so he can stay outta prison. I've also posted on the merits of the HLNT claims against NIR. So sit back with that popcorn ya like ta talk about and watch my next prediction come true. Even durin the exit strategy phases NIR will kick HLNT booty. Or maybe you'll get ta tell that story to a Trustee.
meticulous, post some DD on that bro.
Nik we'll have fun watchin too. No one here defends NIR. Problem is that HLNT is just as bad as NIR. Makes for a nice fight though. Who believes NIR? No one. Who believes the ex HLNT CEO a securities fraud felon? No one. Well maybe the FBI now. Who believes HLNT now run by another fraud felon assigned the position by Humphries? Not a soul. And lastly, who cares that you defend one scam and belittle the other? ME.
At this point I'm wonderin what you don't get.
Yes it's a scam. Designed that way by those that do that. Are ya actually thinkin you're the first ta know and you're providin new info? Thanks for tryin ta help though josey. Another hho scam put together from day one for a purpose.
Nik my boy.
That was heart wrenchin and would hold water if it weren't for your defense elsewhere of those playin the same type a game as Pink Sheet company Directors. Ya can't defend one felon hatched scam and blister NIR while the game is the same. Screwin investors.
Loanguy. What makes you think anyone missed anything here?
Well at least missed what josey posted. I agree with you. Many have missed at lot here. Or maybe they just didn't care to take the time to post about it. Now that I write that, I think it's probably the case. I'm glad to see that you boys recognize a scam when you see it. Can you imagine what we'd all post if Frank Carino had appointed a convicted felon to run this company after his team got busted? We'd likely post the facts and warn others like you have.
"pumping of this"??? Are you serious dude? Sure it all matters and you yourself made a huge deal out of it in your posts yesterday. This is an hho company. Look at the claims, the game and the players. I can show you two other hho pink sheet companies that took this template and ran with it. I can see we're gonna have plenty to discuss here. So far we actually agree.
This cut and paste should also sound familiar to ya.
75. When research compliance personnel rejected the journal request, new documentation
was prepared by Taub’s assistant in which Frank Carino, the principal of Sharpe Ltd.
stated that the journal request related to a personal settlement between the principals of
Z3 Ltd. and Sharpe Ltd. and, further, that the journal request was made “without
involvement of any other companies
josey, are ya really askin if anyone has done DD here?
Tell ya what I'm gonna do, help you out. Ya posted about Georgiou the Canadian and his 25 year sntence and 55 million in restitution but that's all right here on this board. Posted by those who already did that DD and posted it. Run these names pal, they're involved too. Steve Taub, Frank Carino and Harvey Rubenstein. All involved here at HYHY. Here's a good link for ya ta start at: http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21861514
What do you mean "The company no longer exists"
Could you please provide some factual information to back up that claim?
There seems to be a real concern that I'm now the mod here. I'll do my best to keep the subject on this company, hho technology and the competition in this field (technology). Investors interested in hho investing should get a lot of interestin info. I hope it helps them all avoid the smoke and mirrors that exist with many pink sheet companies and those that promote deceptions. We'll also look at those that are on the cutting edge with hydrogen gas development. My gut feeling is that HYHY is a prime company to be purchsed or enter a joint venture with those that have cutting edge knowledge and the funding to develop it. HYHY shareholders would be well served is such and arrangment was entered into.
Have not but I will.
Have you got any interestin info to share? By the way readers hhonow is a trusted poster in my view. No bone to pick, no pump just facts. Glad ta see ya showed up hhodude.
I have read it.
They claimed they paid a majority, not all of the balance at that time. They said they converted stock worth 5 million. That's nice but NIR gets those at a huge discount. It likely paid down that notes a net 2 million dollars. Face value means nothin in the NIR game. It's all about how much they reduced the note and the interest rate. Bottom line is they didn't pay in full and the share dollar amount doesn't count. Now if they agreed ta pay another 8 million do ya think they added new notes or do ya think they just wanna give NIR a little tip.
So you think the payed in full, then sued, then settled for 8 million bucks? Allrighty then. Ya might wanna keep an eye on this one
Wrong about what?
Do you think the Summary Judgement is all there is or do ya believe other parts of my post are wrong? It's really the no more fight left in the dog scenario. Better yet, don't go to a gunfight with a knife. They always have and that leads right back to Dworkin and Humphries and what they are talkin about.
That's why the HLNT exCEO (Steve Humphries)testimony goin on right now is so important. He worked with NIR, NIR partners The Gelmon brothers and David Walters. That is where the NIR game will be found and Humphries is tellin his story to avoid prison. Dworkin will back him up.
The real reason the suit was settled is not gonna be shared with the public.
No fight left in the dog?
Want an accurate NIR v HLNT probable scenario folks?
The court is not gonna unravel deals the crooked CEO of HLNT and the company Directors did with HLNT. Aint gonna happen cause NIR did no wrong in this case. These subordinations are done all the time. The claim that the software was sold twice is an HLNT problem not an NIR problem. HLNT was sellin and controllin that product, not NIR. If a company comes to NIR with a share conversion plan that makes sense, is more secure and is legal NIR has every right to do the deal. They're the note holder. HLNT had better start worryin about the note security which is likely all the HLNT assets. What's gonna probably happen is that HLNT is gonna be forced inta bankruptcy. Your Directors are well versed in bankruptcy tactics. It's a tool they use quite often when plans fall apart. Expect to see it this year.
For those that wonder about how many shares of HLNT NIR owns, listen up. NIR doesn't hold shares. As soon as they receive shares they dump them.
The Shortring question is your best avenue. Anyone with an IQ above 80 knows that when NIR is converting shares the company pps falls fast. NIR tracks pps movement too. Your exCEO is testifying right now regardin his frauds and associations. He was side by side in an office with a dude named Michael Gelmon. Mike and his brother Cory are known as Canadian Short Players and they are partners with NIR. Figyre it out folks and hope your CEO Humphries has info and tells it. Your other route is through Humphries other partner David Walters. Just as Humphries placed felon Mel Robinson in place, Walters placed felon Humphries. Walters happens to be married to Mimi Walters who is a US Senator from California. She is also a NIR investor and plays the Pink Sheet shareholder game while he husband works with NIR. You'd all be smart to focus on areas that are real and forget the suitcase full of money payment to NIR nonsense. Your Directors would never pay convertable debt with cash. They will create more shares. Any thought otherwise is meant to mislead others and is nonsense.
At least he's tryin ta be funny, is funny and is not lining his pocket by scammin unsuspectin readers. Big difference.
Exit Strategy!!!
JJ,Ii posted this video link on the NIR board.
It reminds me of Tobin's BS except it's delivered by a dude with brains that doesn't expect anyone to believe his story.
This is a friggin classic boys.
Many years ago Rockwell developed an automatic transmission. While waiting for the crew to set up for a promotional video their spokesman decided to play around in front of the camera. This dude is my pick to run a Hedge Fund, company or whatever if you need a dude who can really shoot the sht. He belongs on the pinks. Let me know what ya think as this is still used in training public speakers
Again??? Tubby already trotted out that group several times. I think he was only 100% sure their PIPE money was in the bank. The dude is a complete fool. 100% complete.
Come on JJ. Tubby is 1000% sure that PIPE funding is coming through these ghosts. After all he sat down and talked with them for hours before makin that claim and postin his buy recomendation. I believe the pps was sure to be between 8 and 12 dollars/share by now also a Tubby Smith tip. I think he worded that one as "A little birdie told me so".
Tobin Smith stands alone. Problem is, it's at the bottom.
I will post daily. pps news that is factual and what I and others expect. Today is another dumping day so far. 4.6 million shares sold and under 1 million purchased. Result is a 12.5% pps drop from yesterday. pps is at .0035 and falling and the company is still non transparent and publishing PR's that have proven untrue. Yesterday I asked about a PR claimin the company received a Grant for over 1.4m bucks with no response regardin facts. The company published sales figures have been shown to be very very suspect and unaudited as you'd expect. Now most of the daily posters like to write that this company history and pattern is just old news and unimportant. I believe just the opposite.
Sparky, you're probably right and these is no surprise. We all know the SEC is involved and yes this will likely go to trial. Not sure that will do HLNT any good though. In fact, this whole deal is gonna expose NIR and HLNT for what they are. Despite what some of your postin buddies have claimed, no one postin here defends NIR actions in any way. Some have even posted that I'm associated with or defend NIR. That's about as dumb a view as possible if any took the time to read past posts. The real interest here is that the HLNT CEO probably worked with NIR in a shortin scheme and that both worked with The Gelmon brothers and David Walters. That's the story and facts that need to come to light. Humphries, Dworkin and Yellen are talkin to save their freedom. No one is playin games with this crack crew. Talk long and loud or do your max time. Humphries was still in game playin mode when he appointed fellow fraud fellon Mel Robinson to run HLNT. Much has changed since Feb. 2010. You can bet the SEC is lookin into more than just NIR considerin this cast of players. Add the FBI to that interest party list.
Real news or news selected for you to hear?
What you have is a nonreportin company feeding information it selects to potential share purchasers. This compay does not report.
Over 4 times sells to buys again today already.
It's time those that read about HLNT hear the truth. This company is totally non-transparent despite claims of the opposite over a year ago. Claims of funding arriving that were false, grants, sales etc in the same boat. What you have here is a B.O.D. that makes claims that are not enacted and feeds the public information that it sees fit while hiding the whole picture. In my opinion it's just another hho scam with no viable or patentable technology. In fact it's simple technology you can buy on ebay. Some won't like this opinion but potential investors should and will have the option to look at all opinion and facts while they consider an investment.
Good one JJ.
Tobins chick.
OK but listen up.
It's after lunch dshade. 3 times as many shares sold today as bought. Seems to me that both the east and west coast are dumpin shares. That is unless you were talkin about preferred shares that are used and issued with no transparency. That reminds me, did the settle with preferred shares with that 3rd Hedge Fund?
Can someone help me with the PR I pasted below. It claims the company received a $1.247M Grant. Any accounting available on how that was used? I can't find any. Was it even real? The only thing I see that actually happened was that Mel Robinson took charge. No transparency or Grant as claimed that I can see.
Mar 04, 2010 08:37 ETSystems Evolution Surges on Anticipation of a Rebound Year for the Company
TORONTO, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - March 4, 2010) - Systems Evolution (PINK SHEETS:SSEV)
TheMarketFinancial.com, the news portal which covers the latest Wall Street developments while delivering financial and investment intelligence to a community of highly informed investors, has issued a special independent research coverage on Systems Evolution (PINK SHEETS:SSEV)
Systems Evolution has seen its fair share of troubles the last couple of months, however, things are really starting to come together for this once slumping company. Expectations of the company becoming fully compliant under Pink Sheet standards, a recent $1.247M grant, and the hiring of a new CEO in Mel Robinson have all played a key role in lifting investor confidence, bringing a newly established sense of optimism. We spoke to Mr. Robinson regarding his new role and he was quick to note, "Our commitment at the moment is for total transparency on the part of SSEV."
w buff. I'm not sure why some are enterin a legal battle with NIR now. This turkey is about ready to eat. The investors have cooked it. You had better believe this NIR model had an exit strategy. Looks like she's windin down/self destructin faster by the day. Corey's got a lot on his mind these days. Gonna ride the horse tell she drops. Next phase will be findin where he stached the dough.
A better search would be "WHO'S LEFT AT NIR"?
Left as in who's still there. Corey, Goldfedder and the girl who answers the phone? Is the Cortan boy Tanney still in the house?
Friends can be dumb too.
Ask the dude why and see what ya get back.