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Blue, funny, I am not the leader here. We all share a community here.
If I took you down here, what was I doing when we went to $50.00? Did I get the same 'praise' then as now? You are a funny man. Hoping to become rich with 5400 shares and yet burning the very bridges that are now built and leading to great things ahead.
You still don't see MSFT, IBM, HP and Intel intentions for the future. And you don't see Wave's position regarding it all. All you see is doom and gloom. Go ahead, continue on your negative path. Despite where you are coming from, you will make a lot of money on your 5400 shares.
I'll make you a bet. If we are not between $7.00 and $20.00 12 months from now, I will not post from January 2005 until June of 2005. And if we are, you will do the same. Deal?
oknpv I think you can see by the trading action of the stock that there are many here that have agendas and are only interested in moving the stock up and down $.50 for quick profits. These are not long term investors and do not share the same goal that you and I and the rest of the longs share.
Be wary of those that bash continuously, repeating the same mantra over and over again. I think you know which posters I am referring to.
And be aware of those that 'say' they have sold most of their position and continue to post on this board. Why? You don't suppose they want to buy back in at lower prices do you? Na.
Blue, why not just burn your 5400 shares. It seems you have a death wish for them anyway.
How anyone with your attitude toward Wave can still hold shares in the company is beyond me.
N4, it's real curious to this poster how you and Maggie do not post for weeks and then show up at the same time with only negative posts on Wave. Very curious indeed.
Question, has Wave ever done anything positive in your view?
N4, where are the bios on the BOD? No proof, just accuse and move on?
Posted by: Snackman
In reply to: november 4th who wrote msg# 24335
Date:12/28/2003 1:47:00 AM
Post #of 24378
N4, why don't you give us a bio on each of the board of directors as to what you believe they have done wrong. It's easy to generalize and accuse the group as a whole. Why not give us your wisdom as to what they have done wrong.
Do you really KNOW anything about any individual on the board of directors? Tell us about them, as you accuse them of wrong doing, and call them cronies,(a very slanderous word with no facts to back it up), you must have some idea what THEY have done wrong or you wouldn't have posted that would you?
Many here slander other individuals without facts. How would anyone here like to have a poster like N4 accuse your father or mother, that sat on a board of directors, as a 'cronie' with no nothing to back it up?
N4, please give us a bio on the board of directors that you falsely accuse of slander as cronies. Your credibility is on the line here.
The slander of others has to stop. It is easy to hide behind a board like this and accuse others of wrong doing without facts. It is very low, in my opinion, to slander those that can not answer back. It is very cowardly thing to do in my book.
Then you are blind. Going to bed now. You can have the last word.
And just how does that chart show what they did? You think they control the share price, or the everyday workings of the company? Do you really know what a board of directors do?
Again, I have no idea, you tell me. How much did they make on those founder's shares? How many did they receive? You seem to know all about them, I don't, you tell me.
Kev now you know better than that I hope. You think ANY board of director can post something here? And if they could, why should they? They have done nothing wrong.
And as to provoking anyone for fear of redress, maybe some of you should think twice before posting slanderous posts. I did not force N4 to post his slanderous post. He did that all on his own.
You tell me. How much did they make off those founders shares? Zero, no?
N4, why don't you give us a bio on each of the board of directors as to what you believe they have done wrong. It's easy to generalize and accuse the group as a whole. Why not give us your wisdom as to what they have done wrong.
Do you really KNOW anything about any individual on the board of directors? Tell us about them, as you accuse them of wrong doing, and call them cronies,(a very slanderous word with no facts to back it up), you must have some idea what THEY have done wrong or you wouldn't have posted that would you?
Many here slander other individuals without facts. How would anyone here like to have a poster like N4 accuse your father or mother, that sat on a board of directors, as a 'cronie' with no nothing to back it up?
N4, please give us a bio on the board of directors that you falsely accuse of slander as cronies. Your credibility is on the line here.
The slander of others has to stop. It is easy to hide behind a board like this and accuse others of wrong doing without facts. It is very low, in my opinion, to slander those that can not answer back. It is very cowardly thing to do in my book.
SPIN, how much did they make on those Founder's shares?
You may be right, they could stop trading pending news and open up at $3.50 also, no?
Have a good one.
oknpv, it would be nice if SPIN tried to buy it at $1.36 at the opening on Friday. I think he will be disappointed that it will not fill, but if it does, it will be a bargain he will remember a year from now.
SPIN the 'killing after hours' was 500 shares at $1.36. The stock closed strong at $1.43. The 500 shares could have been shares traded earlier out of order. Either way, the 500 shares after hours at $1.36 doesn't mean a thing.
Carl, the same to you and everyone here. I am in the same camp as you, and I look for a 5-10 bagger in the next 12 months, which will make 2004 a very good year.
etkd, do you really think he even owns any stock? There are other agendas at work here.
Interesting article. Bolds are mine
Business - NewsFactorServer Vendors Agree To Create Standards
James Maguire, www.newsfactor.com
Temporarily putting aside the rivalry between them, all the top players in the server industry will work together to create standards for server management.
Intel (Nasdaq: INTC - news), IBM (NYSE: IBM - news), HP (NYSE: HPQ - news) and Dell (Nasdaq: DELL - news) have spearheaded the formation of a new group, the Server Management Working Group, that hopes to make it easier for network administrators to handle heterogeneous data centers. Also joining the effort were Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT - news), Sun Microsystems (Nasdaq: SUNW - news), Oracle (Nasdaq: ORCL - news) and Advanced Micro Devices.
The group, which was announced last week, expects to have the new standard ready for implementation by July 1, 2004.
These major players are responding to intense pressure from customers, Forrester analyst Galen Schreck told NewsFactor. "It's only because customers drove them there [that] they would ever do this -- they would never do so if they could possibly help it."
A Tangle of Standards
Currently, network administrators whose data centers contain servers from multiple vendors face a blizzard of competing interfaces and operational standards.
The server group's goal is to create a single standard for remote administration of these disparate systems. Specifically, the group will work to develop a common Command Line Interface (CLI). This CLI could be scripted to automate complex multiserver operations.
The group hopes the new standard will ease any number of server-administration tasks, from updating software and security patches to selecting which partitions will boot to assigning IP addresses. The standard also is expected to cut data center costs by making administration more efficient.
Impatient Customers
The server group was formed as part of the Distributed Management Task Force (DMTF), a technology industry trade group created to develop standards for the exchange of management information in a platform-independent manner.
"Customers are asking the vendors to not make manageability of servers a point of differentiation," Winston Bumpus, president of the DMTF, told NewsFactor, explaining why vendors chose to work together.
The forthcoming standard will manage a system whether an OS is present or absent, Bumpus said, "and should be able to manage the machine even if it is in a power-off state."
The DMTF is optimistic that the vendors will agree on a standard by July 1st. "We're laying down the requirements, and the solution that best fits those requirements is the one we've agreed to adopt," he said.
Time is of the essence, Bumpus noted. "Customers are losing patience -- they'd like to have it sooner, but we think this is an aggressive schedule."
Prevalence of Blades
As blade servers become ever more prevalent in data centers, the server group's standard is expected to play a lead role in the adoption of this emerging technology. To efficiently administer a bank of such servers, remote administration is required.
With the advent of blade technology, management has become increasingly proprietary. "Everyone ran out and built their own management software to go with their own blade," Schreck said. "It became quickly apparent that those [applications] had nothing to do with one another."
As for the server group's attempts to create a platform-independent standard, "my concern is, how low level will it be? Will they, for example, expose all the capabilities of the blade chassis?" Schreck wondered. Administration of blade-related tasks is thwarted by incompatibility issues in the chassis of different blade servers, he noted.
Overcoming the Proprietary
Each of the major server vendors has its own proprietary-management software designed to administer a data center, which the server group will work to unify.
"I think customers are asking for this, because there has been a surge of proprietary-management capability that has been embedded in these platforms," Schreck said. Hewlett-Packard's Adaptive Enterprise or IBM's on-demand initiative are two examples. "These are integrated suites of management software that begins at the hardware and ultimately works its way up to something like DB2 or WebSphere," he said.
"In the IBM fantasy data center, if WebSphere needs another server, it can request one, and the [request] perks through a stack of management tools ... but in who else's universe is that going to be able to work that way?" he asks.
"And what kind of customer has a data center that looks that way, or wants one?" Schreck continued. He noted that the ability to manage disparate hardware in a common fashion is an important step forward.
Bluefin, Too
DMTF created a standard called the "Common Information Model" (CMI), to which the server group's forthcoming specification is expected to adhere.
The server group's new standard likely will work in tandem with a DMTF platform-independent standard developed by the storage industry called the "Storage Management Initiative Specification" (SMI-S), otherwise known as Bluefin.
Have they done anything wrong? Who says they have? The SEC? I haven't seen where Wave has been fined or repremanded by the SEC or any other body, have you?
Easy to accuse but sometimes hard to prove with no facts.
Again, how do you know they didn't?
What were they to release? That the writer was stupid and did not check her facts? How do you know that a call did not go out to Reuters instantly upon it's release? Any proof that Wave did not contact them?
If Reuters was contacted by Wave, and refused to do anything about it, what would you have suggested Wave do about it?
So Twinkie are you suggesting we get change management on your speculations with no facts backing it up? Is that what you advocating?
CPA, a wise old man once told me "true things are said in jest".
I thank you for your honest post.
CPA, your hatred for the Spragues, and the revenge you seek, have made you blind to the fact that Wave did nothing wrong. You and your cohorts have tried to spin this thing for 24 hours now but with Reuters admission that it was their fault and not Waves, it turned the tables on your spin. Come Monday, I think you will see a rebound in the stock price. The spin will have unwound itself. But you guys tried, boy did you try.
new, how do you know that Wave did not call Reuters on it when they printed it? Wave can not make them admit their mistake but when the SEC says something then it gets done. I believe that's what happened.
IAMSAM, today was a steal. Good going for those that bought.
gentleman we will recover all of the loss and go up a lot more. Some were calling for a buck today. I'll take the $1.50. A lot of weak sisters and traders are now gone. But they will be back at higher prices imo.
Rip, wrong again, I sold last month and reported the trade here. Try and keep up would ya. LOL
Nope, but my wife sold 500 at $44.00. Only wise one in the family.
Not true. I have sold.
Perspective: Wave closed July 25th at $.86. We are still up almost 100% since then.
100,000 traded in the last half hour. What will the very last half hour of trading bring?
zen, thanks, and happy Holidays to you and yours.
I used to watch the stock every minute and I don't do that anymore. I play contract bridge 3-4 times a week now. I happen to be home today watching this play out. It's a non issue as far as I am concerned. If Wave said they did nothing improper in their PRs I am sure they will be able to prove that or why say it?
Life is good. I am so happy for Nelzoni and a couple of other very long posters that are coming off life threating illnesses.
One must keep their perspective. I think there are a few posters (I won't mention them by name) that have lost their perspective and just want attention. Sad really.
Last hour coming up. Will it be $1.40 or $1.60? 1/2-1 million shares or 100,000 shares?
Your speculation comes on the heals of MSNBC saying that Wave said they stand behind their PRs. I'll take their version over yours.
From this morning, 3 1/2 hours ago when we were at $ 1.40
Posted by: Snackman
In reply to: Down And Out Man who wrote msg# 23449
Date:12/19/2003 9:59:29 AM
Post #of 23605
Could it be that a 'few'shorts got badly burned when we went from $.82 to $5.00? That they went to the SEC to get their pound of flesh? No, I guess that couldn't of happened.
This will pass and I will predict right now we will firm up through the rest of the day.
Once the weak sisters sell and the shorts book their $ .30 to $ .4 0, things will firm up.
xam321, the SEC is free to review my account activity also. They will not find any buys or sells.
mannomur3 yes, if this is the best they can do we should recover rather quickly in my opinion. I still maintain a firming up through the rest of the trading day.
new I rooting for you, NOT.
SPIN, thanks, happy holidays to you and yours too.
The post is not from either one of those companies.
SPIN I am still very long on IMDS but that is not the company that my friend's post relates to.