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I type-in RBRM on pinksheets.com, and this is what I get:
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/RBRM/financials
I went to SEC site and they reported no filings as of date for RBRM?
I click your link, now I see them....
According to SEC:
DOM Exception: INVALID_CHARACTER_ERR (5)
SEC Filings
No SEC Filings data is available for RBRM
**Why then is / are people posting here from RBRM that numbers are great and financials released a week ago when there is nothing official or legally released under US securities laws for the public to review???
Huge techincal pennant formed... Either this goes to 7.00 or it goes to 3.00 level depending on rbeakout....
You will see.
If it were an up & up investment it would not be forbidden under US securities laws for one thing.
In EUROPEAN BANKING TERMS, WHAT YOU STATE IS ILLEGAL OR NOT REAL, IS IN FACT, VERY REAL AND HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES.
DO NOT give me any darn dictionary definitions, as much goes on out there most would be surprised to know about. How do you think many of those global humanitarian foundations operate supposedly for the good of people and Godly works to fund "HUMANITARIAN PROJECTS?"
Only news I can find is this below. SEC says nothing for rbrm and pinksheets.com shows nothing either...? If anyone has financials, please forward them or post them on here for all to read.
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ReBuilder Gets Warning for Lack of Supplier, Complaint Documentation
1st of April 2011 @ 18:38
{Advantage Business Media via BioPortfolio} ReBuilder Medical has been warned after an FDA inspection found no documentation of supplier qualification, despite a company requirement to test vendors’ product samples before approval.
They did this before. Go over last 1 1/2 years PR's and news. This is illegal in US markets but called HYIP or high yield investment program in European banking circles. It hold a ton of risk for those accredited investors who decide to play ball with this private placement.
Next you will see the dillution announcement come like before twice when they figure out they will not get the investors to bite this HYIP and are in desperate state to raise capital plus maintain current massive debt levels and add new debt load which George states he wants to do... YOU cannot have what you cannot afford simple as that.
Yeah I see a yield sign now.
I cannot see them yet? I go there and a red yield sign shows and states:
OTC Pink limited information. "...companies that are late in their filing obligations with SEC..."
I see wher you are coming from, and going back years ago I got my fill of technical chart reading programs and schooling. It is still the same today.
Problem today, is none of that matters anymore than PR's or SEC filings and such, as certain major powers can make a stock or market do what they deem from "unfair" super computer algorhythm trade programs and steal from retail investors at any given time. This is one major reason so many refuse to come back to US equities knowing these trickery games are going on, as there is not the integrity in the markets as there once used to, and peopel would invest based on solid data and info and the compnay. Though I look at technicals, too many times in last few years they are violated due to the above computer program abuses and why so many now say it is worst that going to Vegas and gambling. It is very sad and this needs fixed or else the US equities markets will dwindle away over time wiht fewer and fewer participants "investing", and only a handful of daytrader penny flipping types trying to survive against very low volume business.
People do not trust investing like they used to do. I am a business owner like many and we used to invest for our employees' and personal benefit, but it is becoming useless today seeing stocks move like a futures contract- this is not right to see happen.
TechGuru, I agree with what you say, but I have not seen any financials myself and SEC nor Pink Sheets show any updated yet. If you or someone else knows where these are, then please share.
Another problem is, it has been over 3 years they seem to have ignored their stock, not one year.
Also, I personally along with others, have given them advice and comments on what it means to support their stock as you say, higher PPS breeds more awareness and trust in that product as well as a plethora of financing opportunities for future stable growth too.
It almost seems there are monkeys or children running that company today, because with what they have proven and available, I cannot for the life of me understand how they seemingly do not realize what they really have or can do with it either from a business standpoint. I used to work as a consultant with hundreds of development projects people wanted to get funding for, all had visions, some has rose colored expectations, many like rbrm spoke about "realizing dreams of goodwill toward humanty" and "not about the money", but it all came down to certain solid aspects of that project and most failed to get anywhere. The basic reason is this. IN America, it is a capitalistic society no matter how you cut it. Either you run a solid company with profitability, or you go out of business. There is no free ride out there and nobody cares about carrying another "nonprofit" type venue either. RBRM needs to BUILD on what they have so they can last into the future, otherwise not doing anything, in time, they will be looked at as another quack Tens unit-type venue anyone cna pick up from their local Walgreens store, and they will surely fail.
Until they act serious, and Dr. Phillips really stands behind his words like "uplisting to Nasdag soon" or such statements he made the last 3-4 years, investors and even potential customers will look at them as another OTC pump & dump scheme simply put.
Yes I see too.
I am a businessowner myself (3 in 30 years time) and it always bothers me when I see people use PO Boxes to list an address of an Officer in Nevada and they really live in W. Va say; and they say it is done for tax purposes, yet, myself as a businessowner, I and millions of other US businesses are proud and have no reason to use a shelf filing or such and stand right out in our communities whether a corporation or Sole proprietor small business.
As an investor from day one in this company the reply statement posted from rbrm here is worthless. To tell me to sell my stock now when it is worthless and no market to do so is stupid. I invested in this because I did believe in it and have given them business in fact.
To now say rbrm is now finally ready to support its shareholders after 4 years of PR's and docs are out there showing them blaming everything in the world for their stock demise including funds selling after Aug 2008 is ridiculous too.
I more than most people here had a reason to invest and a damn serious one too, and that is the most upsetting; as not only did my sister die with extreme neuropathy and how I came to find out about rbrm, but I have sent business to them too and written Dr. Phillips many times and now looking back, seeing it was all fruitless.
To post I or anyone else should believe in the products first is childish, as you structured your business as a US corporation and your 1st responsibility is to your shareholders (taught in every MBA program), not just to customers; as when you decided to become a public listed corp all that changed. And no business can stay in business working as a free clinic operation spouting out phantasy visions and lovely aspirations of its products in some PR, as you must operate profitably or you do not stay in business long - period!
Prove me wrong Dr. Phillips and family, because after 4 years, sitting at ONE PENNY is value, the stock does not represent the vision and grand cure-all you have tried to sell out there to others...
1. Would be nice to really see audited financial statements.
2. Would be nice to see timely & professional filings & PR's for your shareholders.
3. Would be nice to see that your whole corp business structure is not comprised of your immediate family members like some Chinese steel corps I know have done, and why their stocks are not appreciating either.
Crap I say!
Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank both were at forefront last year from November 2009 through Feb 2010 CC period saying DRYS to be up to $20.00 PPS that year along with Lazard and others- Many new retail investors started to come back including myself, and the CFO even stated "no further stock dillution"... Then all of sudden 2 more stock dillutions occured from Spring to September and many saw their invested $$$ go down drain NEVER to recoup since.
Complaints filed with SEC & FBI occurred and still this turd sits here at 5.00 as people know they are a con game and need to be investigated deeply. They screwed too many people.
Well, DRYS is now still sitting at 5.00 mark and it is 2:30pm in the afternoon.
Where is the "rocket to the moon" so many have been saying would happen?
They have lied and stolen so much from retail investors they lured in last 2 years, nobody willing to trust them here today and know, all the new "wants" of George can only be purchased from further stock dillution.
After being taken by these people last year like others who trusted their words and found them later to lie openly, this thing is having hard time staying above 5.00 today even after this earnings report.
What I get from reading SEC filings is Economou wants more & more & more and the only way to pay for all that new debt is going to be further dilluting this stock after it has been what, 6 times dilluted already???
Anyone miss this award yrcw received other day?
YRC Receives 2010 Inbound Carrier of the Year Honors from Sally Beauty Holdings, Inc. in Florida and South Carolina
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. - YRC, the largest brand of YRC Worldwide Inc. (Nasdaq: YRCW), has been named the 2010 Inbound Carrier of the Year for two Sally Beauty Holdings, Inc. distribution/replenishment facilities, one in Jacksonville, Fla., and another in Spartanburg, S.C. YRC also received these awards from Sally Beauty in 2009.
"It's a special honor to receive this important client recognition two years in a row," said Mike Smid, president - YRC Inc. and chief operations officer - YRC Worldwide. "We value our ongoing partnership with Sally Beauty and work closely with their team. By understanding their distribution needs, we can quickly tap into YRC retail expertise and develop solutions for different states and different stores."
The Sally Beauty Holdings, Inc. 2010 Inbound Carrier of the Year award is presented to providers who "demonstrate a strong commitment in building a solid partnership by exhibiting excellent customer service and service reliability day in and day out." The award is measured on local customer service and is selected by the following criteria:
•Equipment availability and local efficiencies
•Local relationship with account executive and service center manager
•Driver effectiveness
•Proper accountability (limited shortages and counting errors)
•Consistent timeliness on inbound deliveries
"At YRC, we understand the unique requirements of the Sally Beauty retail supply chain," said Smid, "and we're happy to customize solutions that work."
We will see.
Even his reply letter is almost ver batum to other letters I have sene including letters sent back to myself in past years.
He needs to get on a major biz news program or even Fox News so people know about this company. I have medical industry reps who never heard of this man or his company.
I will believe it when I see it.
I still have every article he put out last 4 years and everything in it fell short time & again for ALL shareholders.
What makes this time different than any in past? From blaming some rogue banker for attacking this stock to the market downturn in Aug 2008 to hosts of other excuses.
Dr. Phillips firm has had ample opportunities for years to do the right thing, as any MBA course teaches, 1st responsibility of any CEO is to its shareholders, yet, this CEO failed all vested shareholders badly like so many other CEO's have out there and why so few investors willing to come back into US equities nor trust anything the execs put out there.
Are these financials going to still be unaudited or will they finally be "audited"?
Ecomike most Americans have no pension program today. Many lost all their pensions in 401K scams in last 10 years. $280.00 per week is what many Americans now live on and try to raise a family on and still qualify for welfare benefits like medicaid or EBT cards at least here in NC. And if you have a child and receive medicaid for that child, here in NC, you also receive free paid cell phone as well wiht like 400-700 free minutes/month usage. So many who work 40hr weeks and work hard still are receiving HHS benefits because they are working poor and under the poverty income caps set by the govt for welfare benefits. I think people need to check this out and see what the facts are today, it might surprise you!
Cuts have to be made and Central States pensions had to be cut along with other things if the company is going to adapt and exist in this new economy of the future...
Oh yes YRCW will survive as a business, but you must realize, your future will not be the future of your father's especially if you were union raised.
Tron I agree with you to a point, but you must understand that you and many out there seemingly have been indoctrinated that this or any company should provide you with a comfy future and "free monthly retirement income", and the fact is, that is not the American Dream.... That is an entitlement like many out there from Fed govt to State levels all burdening our systems todat sadly. It was fine for a few decades after WWII when this nation really was producing what the world demanded from us- those days are long gone sadly again....
But, the American dream is a person's self initiative to be able to take a chance and through hard effort create something of value and worth, and NOT expecting it from others as some sort of welfare entitlement- but that attitude is entrenched in so many today that they are due something or owed something, and nothing is due for anyone except what they earn and forge from their own hard efforts- and why many US private businesses like mine go on daily with "no benefits whatsoever" truly are the backbone of this nation just like our Forefathers, who all created something out of hard work and effort NEVER expecting to receive something they did not earn for free from another.
You want to be upset, YOU should contact SEC and others (if you are a shareholder) as to why the maliscious attack on this stock and its shareholders seeing it 13 days on a naked short list which is supposed to be illegal. I already b!!!thced out TD Ameritrade finding out they are allowing this done to this stock and that is very wrong and also destructive to this corp and its market cap.
Yeah, mine are a moldy green grey color I think by now too.
What irks me, is I just gave 2 more of my business customers info for the Rebuilder device because I know it works well, as they have been battling neuropathy for some years now and doctors and such, and neither of them ever heard of these people. But they liked the info and have called RBRM corp. and have the insurance to pay for this; yet as an invested shareholder, here I sit watching a stock seemingly nobody knows about for a company with an exceptional product(s) and solid operation, but reniggs on its reporting to PinkSheets nor any ongoing developmental news.
I see on 32,000 shares volume today it fell even more from .009 to now .008. The day prior it was a whole penny!
Stock sold down at 1 cent again on a few thousand volume; yet when there is a few hundred thousand volume it does not move up?? Where is the news & updates on PinkSheets.com the Dr. promised 8 weeks ago, the financials, the PR's on new developments?
Excellent post!
There is also data showing 13 days of naked shortselling going on against this stock which is supposed to be illegal, and it is known TD Ameritrade amongst some other brokerages have allowed "borrowing" of other investors' shares and I & others have contacted SEC about this as well as placed call to Zollars' office to do something and ACT like a caring executive for the largest LTL company in the USA and almost 100 year old business.... I told his office not only are there small retail people invested into this, but also US businesses like my own who invested inot yrcw who also support and believe in this company too as there is more than 50,000 yrcw jobs at stake, but a lot of downline jobs also that supply & support the YRCW operations daily.
Also statement from the debt reorganizer fellow (Lamar?) basically said that CFO lady was fired because she screwed up paperwork and missed this deadline and that was why there was the SEC filinglast week showing her leaving; but it was too late as the story was greatly overexagerated in the media which I also suspect was supported by competitors and disgruntled fired employees of past.... This temp CFO gets $50K/month and I told Zollars' office my wife is an unemployed executive MBA for over 1 year now who would be more than happy taking that job for 1/5th the current price ($10,000.00/month) and save the company that extra $$$. Also I believe paying this debt reorganizer $80K/month plus $500K bonus at end is another exagerated wasted cost on the company's books today too.
But this company is on par doing what it was to do last year in this reorganization and investors need to see this long term and what their situation is, and I would love to see some bad press come of UPS or even FedEx, as I know over there, things are NOT as rosey as they are trying to make them in the media, and UPS drivers in this region of NC are very upset seeing job ads for UPS drivers paying only between $10.00-12.00 per hour for them...
7 weeks and counting.
Dr. Phillips can be uspet at my posts here, I really DO NOT care! I and others INVESTED into his corporation years ago and for an extremely worthwhile endeavor and products, but sit here today with seemingly an unknown stock to the rest of the world.
He came out publicly and posted letter on I-Hub 7 weeks ago asking to be forgiven from his lack of responses for months to the company and Pink Sheets data updating and to date, not one iota of anything has been seen.
1. Where are the financials?
2. Why only sell product on eBay or mention it on a Facebook site?
3. Where is the "global demand" which their website indicates there is for this product? The stock sure don't seem like there is any "global demand" as investors around the world would pounce on something like this if it were all it appears to be.
Back in 90's a Colorado Springs firm named Spectranetics (SPNC) had invented the excimer laser which was marketed well (for eye and other surgical procedures usage of the future), and they were even fought hard by the "old guard" medical community then too, and they went from being an obscure OTC penny stock to uplist later onto a major exchange and investors were behind that product driving that stock up to aoruond $17.00/share I believe it was at its highs. Sadly, a couple insiders there got greedy and corrupt a few years back and did some bad things internally with record keeping and such found from an investigation and it bruised that firm's reputation some, but they are still going well today.
RBRM could take a lesson from them.
Investors, call Bill Zollars' office today:
Phone: (913) 696-6100 Extension# 6110
Let him have an earful as an investor in this company and this overly negative rehashing for days of the 10K and internet posts by paid basher groups saying yrcw is going bk driving the PPS down to worthlessness.
Just plain sad to see. Execs need to act like execs and come out confronting this crap.
Contacting YRCW's IR Dept a day ago they assured they have no intention of any bk filing, and the wording in the 10K was a requirement of the SEC securities laws for any public company in any type of reorganization. AIG, SIRI and countless others all who were stated to go bk all had to file similar docs in the past couple years with their SEC 10K's as well if people go back and read those during that period... It is a disclosure much like when a person opens a brokerage account.
What gets me is after 72 hours all the ongoing bashing and rehashing of the wording (playing with the context of the words) as if to incite deeper fears amidst this Japan mess and ruin the stock PPS, as we were told that the executive Board was preparing to release a statement publicly to this to settle investors' concerns as they stated all is in process with the reorg started a year ago and there is no bk to be seen or to be filed...
Call IR. They state NO BK!
The bizjournal post is rididuclous to be released yesterday after 10am EST and the thing took much out of context from the SEC 10K so I suggest investors ready it under "Risk section" of the filing. The bk wording is part of ANY SEC filing when a company has any sort of reorganization in progress and I have seen it many times in the past for many companies who reorganized operations to become more streamlined. It is a disclosure statement required and if you can read, understand, see English then you know it is a vague statement which only states what might ro could occur or might not ever occure depending on future events... Kinda like the disclosure statement YOU ALL sign when you open a broker account saying you may lose all your capital at any time, etc...
So sad to see. Calling IR even upsets me to do.
This morning level II showing messed up data saying YRCW down 69 cents at 7am???
It is like some child wrote it!
Why make any release about a situation that has not occurred as NONE of the lenders are upset or asking for default action, etc. This is all an assumption of things that have not even occurred for goodness sake. Why even make such statements?
Last measurable volume on rbrm stock was back in September 2009 when over 11 million shares traded that day.
Sure looks like a H&S bottom technical formation has proven itself now off the new 52 week lows of 2.01; and with future looking brighter for YRC, there are gaps at 2.58. 3.36 then 7.32 on upside that need to be traded through yet...
Maybe that would be the answer? I was kinda shocked when my wife showed me the eBay RBRM message board and sales adds there and then over on her Facebook boards she also saw it there.
He needs to act like a respectable CEO and follow through on his own words posted here 5-6 weeks back.
Heck, I taught 4 sons over 30 years to always do what you say or promise a person "no matter what" as that is a sign of good character; and here we have an older adult CEO making public promises & assurances to people who invested into his corp, and he lies and does not come through on his words after 6 weeks still on any of the details he stated he would "do better job at"...
Reversal is under way in PPS. Technically trade gaps at 2.58 then 7.32 to close.
CHIPs star arrested for penny stock scheme. Is a couple months old but does show there have been such schemes going on to manipulate penny stocks for kickbacks to other brokers:
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2010/2010-187.htm
eBay has bunch of ratings for RBRM device it seems.
Doc put this on eBay in November:
The ReBuilder 2407 and its smaller sister unit, the 300 model are approved by the FDA and Medicare as a TENS device, but whereas a TENS device blocks the nerve signals, the ReBuilder opens them. Totally 180 degrees different.
The ReBuilder contains a tiny microprocessor that customizes the output signal to the patient 7.83 times per second to gently restore the natural waveform that peripheral nerves use to communicate with the central nervous system.
A TENS device uses small pads placed on the body about 5 inches apart, while the ReBuilder uses special silver laced conductive socks, one one each foot, to treat the entire lower half of the body.
If you have tried all the drugs like neurontin, etc., phyusical therapy, lotions and creams and vitamins, herbs and minerals, you should give the ReBuilder a try.
In a recent study at a nationally recognized cancer center, the ReBuilder was successful in reducing the painful symptoms of the side effects from chemotherapy 96% of the time.
The ReBuilder was first approved by the FDA in 1987 and approved for Medicare in 2009. This is the only treatment that makes sense.
In December a customer put this on eBay:
I purchased the ReBuilder from the manufacturer directly. I was thoroughly impressed with their expertise and customer service. I was fortunate enough to speak with the inventor, Dr. Phillips, himself. His medical knowledge is fantastic. We discussed several of my issues relating to my sciatic pain, how the ReBuilder would work for me, and what I could expect from it.
I received my unit 4 days later, and couldn't wait to try it. It gave me a tiny tingling feeling in my feet, barely noticeable, when I used it. I followed the treatment protocols exactly as instructed in their manual. The socks are so easy to use. Within a few days , I was noticing quite a difference. The throbbing pain I had before was down to a mere ache. Within a week, I was up and about, like I hadn't been in quite some time. My wife and I walk the mall together again now.
I was so impressed with my own success, I set out to try and help my father in law with his neuropathy. He suffers from neuropathy because of his chemotherapy. The very informative people at ReBuilder assured me that the machine would help him feel better. I ordered the footbath kit for him to try. He loved the feeling he got using it with the warm water. In less than a week he had noticed a significant decrease in his numbness and pain. He has ordered his own machine now and is so happy with the way it is working for him. He has bragged about it so much to everyone in his support group. He should ask for a referral fee from the company!
yes RCU, this is what all investors are questioning, as it is worse than what you used to see years ago in the old OTC markets. Vagueness does not even describe this. It is more like some retarded person chewing food trying to get words out repeating them in one fashion then the next then back again then saying they might be what he means, then might not be what he means afterall..... Just pure ridiculous to see not only in the PR's that followed, but the damn SEC filing to boot.
Anyone with intelligence can see it was "made/orchestrated" like this for a reason...
Looking for an elephant. Mr. Warren Buffet's interview this morning could not have been more "coded" to the similar scenario YRCW is at right now.
Berkshire Hathaway is looking for an "elephant" to add to the Omaha zoo as he put it; a company with existing business structure in place and ongoing operations which would benefit from a Berkshire Hathaway investor of their common stock. BUffet states they have no interets in gold or oil as thsoe are fera driven short term, but would rather inevst in common stock of a corp for the long term appreciation to its shareholders while supporting that corp's ongoing concerns into the future.
NOW, uou read into it what you wish, but to think this almost could mean "YRCW" is not as weird as reading this recent 8-K and the PR's to follow and their vagueness.
I contacted YRCW corp and wrote letter telling Zollars and Board to contact Buffet and seriously look at this option, as everything about YRCW is what Berkshire looks for and is "very hungry" right now to invest somewhere, and they love transportation stocks.... YRCW is sitting "primed" IMHO for such a look-see from Berkshire....
Well, yesterday CNBC actually mentioned the 8-K a day later and they even questioned why the stock was so oversold and why so much overreaction to the fear, as it was evident no BK was going to happen as YRCW was in its final stages of the reorganization plan they set out to do a year ago to allow the company to survive long term and was doing better.
So there you have it. Even cnbc made a mention and read the 8-K for what it was, but even they say, they were surprised seeing the stock hit so hard as they did not take the 8-K as a bad thing, but a good thing.It was right after yesterday's open and done very quickly.
I think all shareholders would agree with you, the use of the word "substantial" was a very poor choice of words and Zollars needs to address this, because the shares in concern are already the balance of the blocked shares everyone knew they had available (33-35 million or so?) and nothing more. Way too much overreaction I agree.
Wamamut I'd like to agree with you there, and looking back at last July 8th when this same thing occurred then (fear talk of eminent BK all over the internet) YRCW set 52 week low, only to turn around the following 2 days after the drop and rise $4.00... Go back and review charts in fact.
You know what also, not one damn word about this on CNBC yesterday either.
The whole 8-K is messy & vague IMO. Usually they are released before or after a market, not during last 1 1/2 hours of the trading day. I did not see the massive volume one would expect if this was end of the world either; just a lot of retailers selling on the fear and bashers all over this stock on countless message boards. And this "tentative deal" is not even to be voted on for 4 months yet by the "stakeholders"? The RSI now is like "3" for this stock deeply sitting on oversold territory if you look at all charts.
However, we all knew there was some available shares that could be utilized to market so this is no surprise either (I thought they already were factored into PPPS when the stock was attacked 2 hours after positive earnings driving it down). All in all, YRCW now will have no debt, stronger cash basis, full company operations without hinderances, bk option wiped off the table for good- and this is a bad thing going forward???
What is strange, is this is what occurred last July 8th and the stock was driven to new 52 week low then, only to see it rise over $4.00 in the following 2 trading days then after a fear attack of BK was going on if you look back... remember?
Issues that bug me:
1. The wording of the PR's regarding the 8-K using phrase "significant dillution". What is this? Why use such phrase? What numerical amount does this indicate? Everyone already knows what shares are available and that is about 33-35 million or so for its cap limit. So why use such phrase as if to incite fear because the volume did not look like volumes I have seen in past years for real bad stocks going into a bk or such (Kmrt, CIT, etc), so it was mostly retail sells happening into AH last night.
2. To now look at YRCW, you see an established corp with no debt going forward, stronger cash-at-hand basis, established operations network in USA and abroad; and this is what a Ross Perot or even a Warren Buffet looks for if they were to consider making an investment or merger in fact.
3. This last step in the YRCW reorganization plan makes them clean & efficient now without problems and highly competitive. So why so many PR's released going inot AH as if to incite fear amongst retail investors when this is all a very good thing from a business perspective as well as employment perspective?
Over 4 weeks now since your letter in I-Hub and your stock effectively is a sub-penny stock- worthless, sitting at .008 on no news, no SEC filings, nothing updated to Pink Sheets, NADA....
As an investor into your corporation for 4+ years , and person who found your company & product only too late because my sister died at age 50 from this neuropathy disease, I am totally disgraced at YOU and how you run your organization and mislead your shareholders from day 1 !!!
You had everything going for you and this public listed corp, yet you act like it is a game and have no care about the real people who believed in your business from the start, hung on, and invested into it holding massive losses all these years "hoping" there was some truth and reasoning and all would turn out fine... but there is no hope for this or your corp stock.