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It makes no difference when he filed the case if it was in the time frame where he could do so....also how long did they use that picture...and last of all the case cannot be dismissed if it has legal bearing...that is if INNV did and was using someones picture in their ads that was illegal...
If it is illegal then they have the right to trial unless settled out of court where most of these are...expenses for trial can become considerable...so if you lose in the courts you are toast and the investors will be toasted somewhat...
Oh yeah get it right off the rack at McDonalds while i am getting my burger...Hey, waiter give me and Ap also for my arthritis
Or burger king
or even the Aiken Standard itself.....this is so funny
LOL LOL LOL now tell me again where you can buy this stuff in Aiken
LOL again
Alex I will take #8 for 1000.00
Our platform is the ability to sell shares and raise 5 mil in cash...that's the platform you are talking about...
A sell out only brings a shareholder pennies...your leading people wrong with your suggestions...they have increasing revenues and expenses for those revenues increasing even more...its called losses....
the shares you sold when you had 100 million O/S and raised cash now with about 220 million O/S you have to sell twice as many shares as you did when you only had the 100 mil O/S in order to raise the same 5 mil in cash not counting any warrants ect and even at that those shares they sell are at a discount to what they are currently trading at now...so you can kiss your expectations you are selling good-bye
I'll give you credit for this one HC...but no, INNV is not a buy and yes the lawsuit is definitely a drag on the stock imo and its a wonder there are not many more lawsuits pending...
Don't encourage people to buy this stock and get stuck in it when we are entering a very unsure time for INNV...
We are coming to a period where INNV is going to have to make some decisions...( A/S } ( O/S) ( R/S ) in the next few months...
Be aware as we enter this stage that they must put on the best face possible so expect lots of talk and expectations but stay away until they prove results...we know they are going to have to raise cash again so expect them to give great expectations before the above happens...
Stay away from the stock until profitability is proven IMO
This is a problem with these type products...they have to pump pump pump their products all the time to make sales...they are wide open to law suits...
Another loss like last qtr and we could drop into the .08 area or lower...
I think I noticed in the last 10Q that they included in the revenues the supplies they had on hand for shipment so that could have increased the revenues at the end of 2nd qtr to make the losses no worse than 1.8 million...
Again, this part of the bio marke is unlike the drug market we know...these are not needed products and takes tons and tons of cash to make people believe they need them in order to sell the product...The Euro market not happening until the first part of the year should tell us a lot about cash...Probably going to need 5 million or more once again to get through 2019 which continues to finance their salaries...
Ask yourself this question...what has that 5 million they received actually accomplished for any shareholders this year...80% margins and losses every quarter is not good...not good at all...only way to make money that I see is to raise those prices while maintaining current buyers or cut the cost and increase the number of buyers 50%...
Yeah HC should go over there and post...great IDEA...maybe we could then start some honest discussion about INNV...
HC made it unbareable to read the board anymore...it was just nonsense and to think other posters tagged along made it worse...
Any way we will get to see the real deal Wednesday and face the music one way or the other...
We are under .10 for the day and seems this is around the spot where I first entered INNV...I don't intend to go through an authorization of more shares for a cash raise that is for sure and we are going to be staring at that as each day goes by...I expect losses for the 3rd qtr to be around 1.8 again or higher...
If they intend for another cash raise then look for a lot of pumping by Damaj imo...don't expect to buy again unless I see the results of profitability first...this stock has very very few followers now as it is..
Oh my, someone did not like my post to BATE...
Bate I posted you a response but they deleted it... :(
Be careful carrying that much stock going into the 10Q...
I hope you do not have losses my friend...
I don't think he is taking sides with anyone...I just think he is tired of the actions of the pps with news that comes out...every time they posted what we thought was good news someone was there taking out the BID...
I even thought they were accumulating but after awhile I realized it was not accumulation but something else going on....someone with tons of shares was picking my pocket and selling at BID and taking my money...so finally i ditched the stock...
As Bate said, there are other stocks out there...hopefully you saw the same thing happening the last few days and it took us under .10 a few times...
LOL...just in time to help anyone reading this board...this was 2nd qtr 10 release...a loss of almost 2 million....funds are dwindling as we approach the end of the year...don't get taken in !!!!!!!!
WAIT FOR THE LOSSES REPORTED NOV. 14.....DO NOT BUY BEFORE
Total net revenue 7,312,173
Loss from operations (1,497,569 )
Total other expense, net (342,659 )
Net loss (1,840,228 )
I'm LOL because
you actually think a company with continued losses as INNV is and will be again in the 3rd qtr....
The LOL is because YOU are trying to convince us the stock price should go up as INNV looses more and more cash and sells more and more shares for dilution to the stock holders...no, no, and no...
INNV IS NOT MAKING ANY CASH...IMO ANOTHER CASH RAISE WILL BE REQUIRED...
It takes huge amounts of cash...@80% margins and revenues of 7/7.1 million in revs for Q3 and losses again of 1.8 million or more the have to have cash...lots of cash, cash, cash to sell the products...
Look for INNV to give great outlooks in order to raise A/S and sell more equities and raise more cash....the lower the pps the more shares that need to be sold...
did you ever get the feeling SOMEONES from INNV could be posting on this board...
Yes, anxious to see how much 7/7.1 million in revenues cost them this qtr...
As the Zacks article said...the products INNV is not and illness type product that you have to have so it takes lots and lots of cash each qtr to be able to have the revenues...they are paying through the nose for those 80% margins and as they said these not products that are in demand as real pharma drugs are...
SHOW US THE PROFITS
Losses again... Even with 7 million in revenue...more cash burn...still trying for profitability in 4th Q...even with that release they didn't sound very positive of it...
interesting to see if the expenses is 8.8/9 million again or more...unless expenses is cut drastically how would they expect to achieve profitability...pumping out 8.8 million or more in expenses against 7 million in revenues lowers that working capital with the expectation of a R/S and a capital raise for sure...or raise the A/S and dilute again...We shall see
I don't think any price right now is a good price to buy until you know more from the 10q...
Is it more promises and more promises and pie in the sky
OR
Is it results...results...results..
Too much bid striking for months to believe it is anything good...While I believe it is freebies from within I find it hard to believe they would be doing that now and with so much it the insiders actually believed good things were coming...
A R/S imo and it would not be long before this thing was right back here again...INNV would be a prime short target for sure...
We got about 2 weeks to go...they can't make any big promotions without lots of cash...how much are the expenses for 3q...
Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner...and I believe the bad dilution is coming...its already been discussed...upping the A/S considerably...even the dreaded R/S...bad stuff hitting the bid for months...
They don't even have to have a meeting for an R/S to happen...all that has to happen is for the majority owners to agree to it then all they would do is say Monday morn. Nov. 5th INNV will initiate a R/S which has been agreed upon by the majority ownership...
Going to know lots more after the 10q release...lots and lots more...
Hope all you guys make it out alive.!
As a previous holder I am here to help anyone who might be about to buy INNV to be very very cautious...and as the pumpers pump the PPS continues to fall as SOMEBODIES is taking this stock down...
Its shares are very hard to get rid of unless you want to get out at the bid price because you pretty well have to sell at the bid because they hardly ever take the ask...
Don't fall for all the pumping....
1,105,002 shares traded today and looks like those SOMEBODIES CONTINUE TO TAKE YOUR MONEY...THATS RIGHT A BID RED LETTER DAY AGAIN...WHILE PEOPLE TRIED TO HOLD THE BID UP SOMEBODIES KEPT SLAPPING THAT BID...
I watch them as they pop that ASK up a 1/2C and hold it there until someone pushes that bid up a littel then BANG...Slaps that baby back down taking the pps even lower...but, yeah, yeah, its really getting cheap now...well hold on a few weeks and see how low it falls...
another big red letter day for INNV...been going on for months...MONTHS..
Watched 200k bids come up and they were taken out so fast it made your head swim..
As i said...you rich young kids put up a few million shares in the morning on the bid and lets see who has the most..you or the SOMEBODIES striking that bid down...
Work out some of those great math solutions and try to sell some more pumping...
Try doubling up on those tweets to friends and vendors...hey, wait why dont you guys just take out some ads in papers and magazines yourself...why my money is just chicken scratch to you rich kids making thousands and thousands every day...lol
Can't wait for tomorrow to see if INNV sinks toward .09 or less...
You kids r a hoot..lol
Yeah bid this baby up tomorrow and I will be watching for them to take your money while the stock price goes lower imo....so hurry before the sale goes off because if anyone held this stock Damaj and your value continues to dwindle
I think u guys r n denial...
I don't think u know anything about market makers in a stock otc...
If u know this is what is happening then why don't u buy 1 million shares seeing how your dreamed up market makers will in return take the stock higher....will your train of thought how can u lose...you guys got this all figured out...go ahead try it....whoever is pounding the bid isn't playing games
Well I told u guys imo going under .10.....
We may see about .09 tomorrow or so...I watched them pound that ask this morning...it was about 25k bid and 400k/450k ask so after that it appeared they were waiting until someone bid higher so they could hit the bid again
Did you notice !
.102---.106
Lower high...closing lower lows
Looks like she may dive under .10 very soon...
It's not me because I'm not buying or selling...
If DAMAJ isn't selling then his current worth is dwindling...
Along with yours...
Others tried to warn us about this stock...
I want to see concrete results...
wishful thinking and pumping doesn't do any good any longer...
Maybe DAMAJ will give us another warning about them shorts...
This thing dived from the .20's like a submarine...
then went back up a little only to see them pound the stock back down again...That is all the information we need...something is wrong...
The market saying is let the trend be your friend and it is very true...and the trend right now is down down down...maybe DAMAJ can scare them off with another SHORT WARNING...how'd that work out...lol
Its just possible I could be saving people a lot of money by them not listening to the hype and listening to reason...not being lured in until the real facts come out...
I was on the hype train to until the 2nd qtr facts came out...
Then they started busting the bid...then available cash on hand began to appear to be a problem...then DAMAJ was a no show for a very very important presentation. One that was an excellent opportunity to showcase the companies products....huuummmm, that was strange...something more important than a long awaited, known well in advance chance but he was a NO SHOW..we don't even know if they followed through with the presentation do we...
A huge hurricane hit Florida (one of the most profitable states according to DAMAJ ) and moved through the southeast and we all seen pictures and the news and one of the posters had the nerve to post it like it was some minor storm...DAMAJ already stated that TEXAS and Florida was the big profit makers for INNV....how will that impact...we don't know yet...
Probably he listens because he knows its the truth...he knows as all of you do someone has been busting that bid for months...taking peoples money...he knows it could drop under .10 any time...he knows if your holding A LOT of shares he would have to take a loss to get rid of them at this time and with no volume and with no one hitting the ask....he knows that INNV has to provide a lot of cash for ADS...he knows if 3rd qtr expenses are bad the stock price is moving on down...he knows most of the post is pure hype...he knows we are seeing lower highs and lower lows....he knows volume for a .10 stock stinks...he knows no one is rushing to buy INNV...he has reservations about what is going to happen this qtr...
HE KNOWS I AM NOT LYING...YOU CALL IT BASHING...I KNOW WHAT I HAVE SEEN FOR A COUPLE MONTH NOW....
HE KNOWS YOU CAN'T BE HOLDING A TON OF INNV AND HAVE BAD NEWS COME OUT WITHOUT TAKING A LOSS...MAYBE A BIG LOSS...IF YOU HAVE ALOT TO SELL WITH A LOT OF VOLUME THEN YOU GOT TO BAIL AT THE BID
Now here is one thing that could be happening...
You pumpers pump the stock but claim 60 million in revenues at some stage but you don't really believe that ( nor does any one else at this stage imo) because your not jumping that (supposedly low bid because you know someone with pick pocket that money ) and buying buying buying...
You know you could get caught with more shares than you care to have and that it would be impossible to sale and make a profit because no one is taking the ask off the table...BUT SOMEBODIES HAVE BEEN THE ASK...
Some who own the stock now find themselves ( IN NO MANS LAND ) and don't want to sale because you would continue to drive the stock down and take steeper losses... ( and whoever has been hitting that bid apparently doesn't even care they just want the cash )
Some may want to sell but can only sale at the bid but know if they wait until the 3rd qtr release they could lose even more...
I know what I am talking about because I have been there...but I am sleeping good with INNV because i quit buying the hype and pie in the sky and sold the thing and sleep well at night...
If you own a lot of shares you have to have alot of volume to dump your shares and get out even or a little better...the problem with the volume for the last few months is that it is all coming off the bid...thus the lower highs and lower lows...
I have even a BETTER IDEA...
Why don't we wait and see what is the TRUTH...and that will be fine by me...
Lets see if it drops below .10 and then below .09...
IMO you guys are the ones blowing smoke...go ahead bid the stock up and lets see how fast they take you down...
Forget the pie in the sky...just the facts...
Put lipstick on it if you want...that is your decision...
I can tell you this imo...THEY BETTER HAVE SOME GREAT NEWS FOR THE 3RD QTR AND EXPENSES BETTER BE DOWN or this stock could be (.05) (.04) or lower...
No pie in the sky...I want to see much improved results...
With the bid being hit like it has been since 2nd qtr results it may have been someone with a huge amount of shares trying to get out before the stock moved down to the lower single digits...i mean what person sells his shares at the bid when he knows great news is coming and he could double his money ?
you don't have to take my word of it...it's been happening right in front of your eyes for months...since the 2nd qtr fiasco...
I'm anxious to find the reason why...the 3rd qtr release should tell us the answer...no more pick pocketing my money until I see results from 3rd qtr release...
I don't want to be holding a ton of shares and the results be miserable as they were in the 2nd qtr release...
It is visible for all to see SOMEBODIES have been punishing the bid for a few months...
Now we are headed into their 3q release and this continues as the pps continues to move lower...lower lows...lower highs...imo that doesn't bode well for results...
The more products INNV has to promote the higher the expenses so the products better be winners or expenses has to rise...
CVS has numerous other products...unless you know what you are wanting when you walk into a CVS it would be like looking for a needle in a hay stack to find a INNV product...their is just so much competition in these fields..
The CVS was only a trail in a few stores...
INNV model for sales is a model they must keep pumping cash into to survive or to keep their products in front of peoples eyes...
Also there is a ton of Test Kits on the market for Sugar...a lot of competition and INNV is late to the game...
I am anxious for the 3rd qtr report so I can see what has been going on with the pps...very strange..IMO it's not like someone bought 200k shares at a low cost and sold it because they are striking the BID...its as if they already had the shares long ago or had been given the shares and just wanted the money regardless...I know what I see as I have watched this stock daily...
Could drop under .10 or under .09 any day now if that type action continues...
I watch stocks that begin moving higher and suddenly SOMEBODIES appear on the bid and just keep raising the bid and taking the ask out...thats how it works...
TTNP that I mentioned the other day is one of those...it has went from the .20's last week or before and stands at .63 right now and that is how it happens...
Another day...800K traded and again they bust the bid and SOMEONES are selling this stock or SOMEONES are diluting the stock...waiting to see if it goes under .10 for now...acting as if it will...
All your pumping isn't doing any good...No penny stock buyers are coming to INNV rescue...buyers want to be able to make a profit and have enough volume to get out of the stock...can't do that when they are busting the bid continually....
I don't blame any of you for pumping the stock...I was drinking the cool-aid too until the 2nd qtr results and then kept see the SOMEBODIES taking out the bid continually...then I woke up...
We thought over and over...good news...good news...and when the good news came and people bid the stock the SOMEBODIES just took our money...so then I said no thanks...
Gotta see results now...no more pie in the sky wishful thinking while my pocket is being picked...
IMO something just not right with INNV...don't know if it was all about those losses because of expenses in Q2 or other things going on but this stock is being taken down by SOMEONE/SOME PEOPLES...no good vibes since q2 release....
Wondering about Damaj since he never made that presentation...serious question...
Another BIG HIT ON THE ASK just went by...WHO IS BAILING ON THIS STOCK...
I expect it to go under .10 any time...
Vibes definitely not good going into 3rd qtr release
Yeah some news and people running to bail out of the stock...look at the bid/ask...
Something is very negative about this stock imo...very negative...
And yes I am looking for it to drop under .10 any time
watch as the price keeps dropping...over 700K today as they busted that bid all to pieces...so that tells me there are some people who don't feel well about this company or this qtr or the rest of this year...SOMEBODIES are selling this stock and getting out...Fluti isn't going to save this company...ANDA not going to save this company...
Insiders already know the 3rd qtr results...SOMEBODIES have been selling since the last qtr release and haven't let up...
The way this stock is trading doesn't bode well for the pps...I'm looking for it to break under .10 any day....I don't see any investors or even day traders rushing to buy this stock
It's been my experience that when people feel good about the stock it goes up and not down...it's evident that people don't feel very good about INNV...