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allie put me in for June 27 th )
agree with you Willdman . It's just a question of time .. these shares are going to be absorbed quite quickly ... let's see as the last chance to get in a t a bargain price ...
Great ( so what is the next step for ST holders ? Can you prove your affirmation ...
Tax agree with you on this point this is )))
Naga They are restricted ,, Even if your account will allow the sale , I advise you to call TDA first,,You may find yourself in a huge margin call..
Tax .to reply yes
I still believe there is still a huge short position on PAVC..
the numbers doesn't add up...I'm not an insider and doesn't know if PAVC management did indeed strike a Deal with all brokerage house involved ..
here we go up somebody need some shares ?
verylong You are here since 3 weeks ! same old as well with your attitude ..!
Lol) I have no words really .... what a bunch of ...))0
incredible mess ! this fiasco is .. I guess some peep were selling already ,,,mat be the explanation of the price drop in the last two days ...
ready for another two years of nonsense ?
on Pavc surprise ! shares are listed in mt tda account and are freely tradable !!
serf still awake ?
all right same here I order my certs to be send ,and now the shares appeared in my TDA account as free trading ! I put a sell order . went through and I cancel it !!!
what a mess this is ... incredible ...
Congratulations Herba ....
herb Only serf can update the I=Box you will find him there ...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=3961
Agree 100 % Argonath , this is so obvious .it's pathetic ..!
Looks like ... bid 0026 ask 0043 ! why such a difference ?
Congratulations to all longs and their contribution to this board ...
From TDA , They are going to send the certs after all...
Dear Mr. ******
We are in the process of mailing out the certificates for Paivis. Once you receive yours if you would like to remove the restriction through us. Mail back your shares along with completed 144 paperwork, which I have attached.
RESTRICTED-STOCK HANDLING GUIDELINES - SEC RULE 144
A restricted stock certificate represents shares that haven't been registered with the SEC. Rule 144 is an exception that allows unregistered shares to be sold under specific parameters. This is the most common exception concerning restricted stock.
To process the certificate through TD AMERITRADE, the certificate must meet these policies:
1. Restricted stock requires legal items and special handling, and will be subject to a $250 restricted security processing fee per submission to the transfer agent. You may also be subject to multiple restricted security processing fees. Please deposit your restricted stock into an account with margin privileges. If you don't currently have a margin account, please complete a Margin/Option Account Upgrade Form. The account must hold at least $2,000 in equity before you deposit the stock.
2. TD AMERITRADE must receive your stock certificate, completed Rule 144 Client Pledge, completed Rule 144 Client Statement and completed SEC Form 144 before your sale is initiated.
3. TD AMERITRADE must receive a legal opinion prior to sending the shares to the transfer agent for processing. We will file the required forms on your behalf. The total processing time normally ranges from four to six weeks.
You will have approximately 90 days from the date stated on the SEC Form 144 to liquidate your shares. After 90 days, the certificate will be subject to delivery of any shares sold, which can include a break down of the shares. Shares not sold may be sent back to you or held for continued processing and fees may apply. To extend the trading period for an additional 90 days, please file a new SEC Form 144 and a Stock Power (additional fees may apply).
Your transactions may also be subject to additional fees. Extension fees of $25 per executed order may apply if any of the stock is sold before processing is completed. These charges will occur every 10 business days per executed order until shares have cleared. Varying fees charged to TD AMERITRADE ("Pass Through" fees) may also be assessed to your account.
For your convenience, Rule 144 paperwork has been attached to this e-mail. For instructions on other types of restrictions, please go to Client Services on the TD AMERITRADE Web site. You will find these documents under "Find a Form" and then "Stock Certificate Transfers." Or, log on to your account and visit "Forms & Agreements" under Client Services.
Proceeds from sale transactions are not available for withdrawal or trading purposes until processing has been completed, funds are cleared and shares are delivered. Your account is subject to repurchase of shares if they are sold before the completion of any required processing.
This list is not all-inclusive and may vary with each issue. If you have questions or concerns, please contact a reorganization/safekeeping representative at (888)723-8504.
Upon completion of paperwork, you can overnight to:
TD Ameritrade
attn: safekeeping
1005 N. Ameritrade Place
Bellevue, NE 68005
As an alternative, you may be able to work directly with the transfer agent.
Thank you for investing with TD Ameritrade.
Maggie A.
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.
great news dallas
If One day I'm going to receive these certs .. I'm not going to sell them ! after waiting for 1 year and 1/2, I should be able to frame them and hang them over my fireplace ..I hope the color will match my walls )
Dallas I bet you you won't get your certs , They are " determining "
whatever they men by that it's everybody interpretation !
"Additionally, at this time we are in the process of determining whether we will be able to hold the shares within your account, or if the shares will be sent directly to you. This decision is contingent upon information that we are waiting to receive from the company regarding the eligibility of these restricted shares to be processed under Rule 144.
Thank you for your continued patience in this matter."
New from TDA
Mr. *******
Thank you for your inquiry. At this time, we have received several certificates from Paivis' transfer agent. We are currently in the process of reconciling the certificates that we have received, to ensure that we have received all of our client's certificates.
Additionally, at this time we are in the process of determining whether we will be able to hold the shares within your account, or if the shares will be sent directly to you. This decision is contingent upon information that we are waiting to receive from the company regarding the eligibility of these restricted shares to be processed under Rule 144.
Thank you for your continued patience in this matter.
Nicole N.
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.
So Dallas all the certs are going to be mail back Home or did you requested that yours will be mailed back ?
understood . I gave them a week at the most until civil action...
Latest reply from Ameritrade
Dear Mr ******
Thank you for your inquiry.
If they were, indeed, sent out by the transfer agent last Thursday, we should receive them within a few days. It will depend on how the transfer agent mailed them. Give the certificates another week to be deposited into your account. If that time goes by without the shares being deposited, please call us at 888-723-8504 option #1. The status of those certificates may also depend upon the Depository Trust Company.
Sincerely,
Scott Thompson
Reorganization and Safekeeping Specialist
TD AMERITRADE
Bank in French is Banque ! so i don't trust you either ))
All certificates were sent last Thursday to Ameritrade. It takes 3 days to show in our account so hopefully this coming week .. ...Are they going to hold them longer ? no idea. the only thing for sure They are not in the TA office any longer and they are not coming to my home either ...
Tax you have 52000 Shares and the gig is good for 100000
so that's $7 (1 transaction ).. have a coffee !
IMO yes , the way they are avoiding any discussion,or refuse to sell any shares . all this create heavy suspicion .. the way isee it " they are receiving the shares from TA and have to buy them on the open market ... you will see this coming week ...
I guess the real show will start soon when AT will use these two coming weeks to cover ..while they are avoiding ant phone calls !
Great job Dallas... It;'s like a kindergarten game isn't ?
JB55 all tel are in the Box Info ...
Allan same here 5 on the Bid and 3 on the ask we should be able to break 0.003 soon
Dallas That's exactly what I'm saying , even if the responsibility of Paivis in this TDA Fiasco is not challenged , The silence of the Company for over 1 year is for me as destructive, The ceo pr is sounding like he just acknowledging the fact of some Brokers refusal is plain annoying ..
the Ceo Greg Bauer, is unaware of any legitimate reasons ???
This reply is simply a joke . he had over 1 year to write his PR ...!
comments that "We are unaware of any legitimate reason why Paivis' shares that are quoted on the Electronic Bulletin Board are unavailable for purchase by certain online brokerage firms. As a part of its inquiry, the Company will be contacting certain online trading firms to determine if and why certain firms may be denying customers the opportunity to purchase common shares in the open market."
Tax you remind me of the late KG4 and the late as well suvivor type .you even write like them )))
this place is getting hot again,,new bashers , like the old time ! Incredible cycle ...
Biz Greg Barto is the lawyer and associated with the TA , For a while the TA gave us his number to answer any questions
Jimi the shares are being transfered as we speak and I believe that accounting need to be in order ... simple rules under SEC ..