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When I get Donnell on phone I'm going to ask her how the QASP Float was reduced
by about 800MM in 45 days from Mar 31, 2014 report to May 15, 2014 posting.
Maybe her explanation will end the mystery...
I'll post her reply when someone answers the phone at Herlong or CEO Donnell returns my phone calls...
I don't know much about all that ""Form d?7, Section (a23.b3)" stuff..
WAY above my expertise and Pay Grade..
I'm just a simple man looking for simple answers..
What is TRUE here?
Remember I fell for Dean's song & Dance.. hook,line, and & $$$$
Not too smart...
Peace
SJOgringo
Don't Know, Not very smart! 84 day LAG between share sale and SEC FORM D report give lots of "cover" or "Legal Transparency"
Other stuff WAY above my pay grade.
IMHO that is...
SJO
"Don't believe me?" Not till T/A UNGAGGED!
"FACT".. Independent verification...!!!
SJO
PS.. ""Watch the L2 all day tomorrow and you will see nothing but retail flippers.""
Retail Flipping between .0010 and .0011 ???
NOW that is Funny..
"" Should a new form D be issued, PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP!!! I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW""
Check back in 80 days or so...
Also, NO NEW FORM D's have been issued recently, meaning the company is NOT SELLING NEW SHARES, thus NO MORE DILUTION. Should a new form D be issued, PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP!!! I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW!
"I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW"...What is TRUE Here?
SJO
LMAO... "show me a recent Form D"
IS the T/A still GAGGED by QASP ??
WHEN PR on GEI being aquired by QASP advising GEI 100% wholly owned by QASP and 100% Debt free?
Waiting for that PR or phone conversation with Donnell to ask that question.
Simple question.....simple answer?
Joe when did Donnell first start working for QASP in any capacity?
Sjo
LMAO..Remember March 2010 QASP PR where "Corporate Air Repair, Inc." was acquired by QASP ?
It was only later found that " allegedly' QASP "ONLY"
acquired a "Percentage" and "allegedly" 2 QASP Corporate
Officers has "also" acquired the "balance" of the company..?
That is if my memory is correct.. of MAYbe it was another "acquisition" ???
Quasar Aerospace Industries, Inc. CEO Announces Acquisition of Herlong Airport Maintenance Company
History here is so Funny, again & again... LMAO...
SJO
I agree with you 100%
Especially if QASP does not own 100% of shares free & clear
and Investors/Debt holders currently hold a percentage of GEI,Inc ...
I would have enjoyed reading the offering for any of the 1,000,000 shares,or Convertible Debt,
of Green Energy Investments, Inc.,IF they had actually available to the public, at a point in time.
Clean play, none of the baggage of QASP (Pfd.A's,unknown amount of Convertible Debt, Histoty of Dean, Jeff, Etc,)
plus only 1,000,000 shares divides the whole pie on dissolution.
I originally thought they might try use NHSH shell for the MJ business to shield from QASP liabilities...
But GEI,Inc.is a much smarter and cleaner play than NHSH...IMHO.
GOOD MOVE...Great potential
I hope QASP management clarifies the Share/Debt structure and ownership of GEI,Inc. soon.
SJO
Didn't someone post about a D&O Policy for QASP?
SJO
""I LOVE THIS STOCK!!! ""
OH yes, the April 24, 2014 that corrected the mistake in the April 17, 2014 SOS filing..
Did You overlook this part when preparing your "answer"..??
GREAT POST...MUST READ..
Great question...
What was the Date Dean Hired her to work in the QASP office (Not QASP Corp Secretary)..First date of Hire..
simple question, easy answer..
If that's a problem, I'll ask her when I talk with Our CEO.
Here is Donnell's signature, signed in front of a notary public on Feb. 23, 2011...compare the signature with her signature on the release below...
"and the fact GEI is OWNED BY QASP!!"
How do you know this??
100% wholly owned subsidiary
OR
Do "Opportunity Investors" also own a piece of the Pie..
post your doc links please.. LMOA!!
SJO
""If people would stop bothering this lady""
IF that is a problem for the CEO....
then appears THE problem is self imposed...
When someone says they are going to do something
I'm old fashion, and expect them to follow through..
Please feel free to contact Quasar by telephone or email at donnell@quasaraerospaceindustries.com for information or investment opportunities. Quasar will continue to update our shareholders and the investment community as progress and details are ready to be released.
Peace
SJO
''Question is, if the opposite happens, what would be people's feelings?
IMHO..
Same as when Dean did it..
Same as when Jeff did it...
Same as when Joe did it...
Same as when .............
"Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it." Winston Churchill
Best of LUCK on scenario #1..
SJO
Called Donnell 0950 EDT 5/19/14: Answering Machine
"..QASP.. .. no one is available.."
SJO
Not that Smart!Tomorrow is my 4th anniversary
on iHub and involvement with QASP where I was taken in
my Big Daddy Dean, hook line and sinker....
""Big Daddy & The penny stock virgin""
I will call Donnell Tomorrow to celebrate the My iHub Anniversary
and ask her how the FLOAT dropped over 800 Million between March 31, 2014 and May 15, 2014..
Will also ask her about the conflicting information on
the T/A being gagged by QASP and
the Actual Share structure of the New Colorado subsidiary of QASP, wholly owned or do "investors" own part.
I Assume the QASP Hotline number still is 904-207-6503
She wrote on April 17, 2014, and advised "I will reach out to
you next week when I return to schedule a time for us to
have a conversion."
Still waiting... I'll call her tomorrow.
I'll PR the results of my Call to CEO Donnell at Herlong..
Sweet Dreams of Penny Land...
SJOgringo
PS..if you Don't think the Form D shares,
Conversion of PFD.A shares,
Unknown amount of Convertible Debt issued previously by QASP,
and the Share structure and OWNERSHIP of New Colorado QASP Subsidiary
(wholly owned by QASP or partly owned by "investors")
are not an issue at QASP.... we disagree.
""Penny before July 1st"" Slight Delay??
2 weeks makes a difference at QASP...
SJO
"not owning shares imo is flat out silly"
I Agree...
ROFLing
SJO
Does The Sarbanes-Oxley apply to March 31,2014 filing?
I believe there was a persons signature on the document
so I would Trust the March 31, 2014 numbers especially
if The Sarbanes-Oxley applies... and there has been no further
dilution of QASP stock.
Is The T/A still gagged by QASP?
SJOgringo
O/S NOW 2,099,443,920 ?? T/A still Gagged by QASP?
As of Thurday May 15, 2014 less than 500 Million
shares left on the A/S @ QASP..?? IS THAT TRUE..???
Makes one wonder where the "Investment Oppertunities"
Donnell PR'ed are..
In QASP or MAYbe the Hardware Store in Colorado???
Anyone have any " good DD" information....
..or only SILENCE.... Hmmmm ??? NDA'a..???
Are we all here to make money.. then move on.. ??
Peace
SJOgringo
ROFLMAO.!! "The "PUMP" & "The DUMP"...!!!
Don't believe your lying EYES..
IMHO..Sure it must have NOTHING to due with QASP Management
...All Outside forces..??
MAYbe Another PR ??
""Space Aliens Landing in Colorado requires delay to to June 01,14 closing??""
Thanks for a Good Laugh to Start a WEEKEND..
HA HA HA HA..
Have a Safe Weekend..
SJOgringo
THE PUMP
""But yet up from .0001 to .0038 in the same time frame sooo.""
THE DUMP
""QASP. down from .0035 to .001. In just a few weeks.""
"Weak Hands" or Form D Investors selling .000??? purchase price stock
at a "small" reasonable profit.... for their "risk"..
The ANSWER to THAT question would tell the REAL STORY Here..
JMHO..of course...
Simple Question...What isTRUE Here...???
"Listening" to the SILENCE
SJO
"A reverse split would be nuts"
What is the difference between:
Say for example.. a 1 for 2 Reverse Split
And..
For example increasing the A/S to 5.0 Billion from 2.5 Billion
What effect on Current Shareholders??
Someone here must Know?
SJO
Facts or "the QASP story". One seems to confuse the other..
That's the problem with 'Transparency"..
You Don't want to believe YOUR LYING EYES..
IMO Better to USE your EARS and listen for the SILENCE..
IMO Better information that "WORDS" followed by "Forward Looking Statements".
Example...
QASP PR includes opportunities for Investments (PRIVATE PLACEMENTS ?).. in the same announcing
QASP Entering the MJ/MMJ Industry on April 08, 2014.
This is after March 31, 2014 when management knows there are are only
approximately 550 Million Shares give or take left in the 2.5 Billion A/S.
Hmmm.. Make one ask...Investments (PRIVATE PLACEMENTS ?).. where..??
QASP or the soon to be formed QASP Colorado Subsidiary Company GEI
Interesting subject and has HUGE Ramifications for PRESENT QASP Shareholders...
but even the most frequent and vocal "stockholders" are SILENT on this HUGE issue...
Why the SILENCE...??? MAYbe there is a reason..
Just a Simple Question..What is TRUE here???
"Listening" to the Silence
SJOgringo
.0032 to .0009..YEP; Doing a FINE JOB..
and all since April 23, 2014..
QASP Offical PR said ""The Bashers were the Problem...""
QASP Seem to be Doing a FINE job all alone..
Darn pesky numbers.. keep ruining a good story..
enjoy the floor..
SJO
ps.. TA ever send you an Email confirming your conversation that
QASP was not gagging the TA..??
thetruth3333 Member Level Friday, 05/16/14 09:16:50 PM
Re: SJOGRINGO post# 313532
Post # of 313536
HAHA she answered it PERFECTLY!! and CORRECTLY!! she right here,,,
Quote:
In addition, all private placements under Reg D which Quasar has participated in have been filed with the SEC and are current. No additional placements have been issued since the last filing. These filings are available to the public to view at SEC.gov.
and that was the last time she said it. she also said it prior and as of today NO NEW D's have been filed thus she has been correct.
so see all clear she did answer.
GO QASP
NO ONE EVEN KNEW!LOL Incorrect..
She wouldn't answer the question when asked...
SJO
hetruth3333 Member Level Friday, 05/16/14 08:57:58 PM
Re: Porgie Tirebiter post# 313520
Post # of 313531
because it was BEFORE she said it! ROTFLMAO!! and yes ONLY 500mm when BILLIONS were traded!! BILLIONS!! lmao!! NO ONE EVEN KNEW!LOL
Does the CEO plan on Issuing a Press Release concerning
"The Plan" before trading opens in the morning???
Reading the posts tonight, and assuming they are all accurate,
reported the CEO is speaking with many individual
stockholders and giving them information that I don't know
is available to other Stockholders and the investing Public.
She won't answer me, but talks with other stockholders,
sometimes multiple times per day, as the post indicate...?
Could be a sticky situation..
If in fact she out lined "THE PLAN" for some stockholders,
I hope she issues a Press Release concerning "The Plan"
before trading opens this Morning..
Concerned
SJOgringo
SunScents Member Level Thursday, 05/15/14 07:24:44 PM
Re: penniesbgone post# 313064
Post #313184 of 313215
I have no answer for that PBG.
Quote:
The why do other companies that do not gagged the T/A let everyone know by simply calling the T/A?
We saw in the filing today that once again the float has gone up by a large amount. At some point soon, we should hit the limit on the Authorized Shares.
After communicating with Ms. Vigil twice today. I am willing to give her a bit of wiggle room. She has a plan. She is trying to make that plan work. I've been fooled by several CEO's of QASP in the past. So, I am skeptical. But, I'm willing to wait and see if she can make anything happen for the shareholders
HOTROD_ZR1 Thursday, 05/15/14 05:08:24 PM
Re: janice shell post# 313108
Post #3131 of 313212
Nope no need for a bank loan when we have Private placement set up. CEO told me she had to turn down investors that wanted to help in this deal because she had so many to pick from.
doughboy2 Thursday, 05/15/14 05:11:44 PM
Re: HOTROD_ZR1 post# 313120
Post #313127 of 313213
"turn down investors....she had so many to pick from."
Wow - that is the opposite of what she PR'd just the other day, "Please feel free to contact Quasar by telephone or email at donnell@quasaraerospaceindustries.com for information or investment opportunities."
Quasar Is Preparing for Closing of Acquisition
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Quasar Is Preparing for Closing of Acquisition
QASP Quasar Aerospace Industries, Inc. (PC) Quasar Is Preparing for Closing of Acquisition
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mmscoutregiment Thursday, 05/15/14 05:43:20 PM
Re: janice shell post# 313103
Post #313167 of 313215
I am simply pointing out what I have been told directly from Quasars CEO
RookieStockPicker Member Level Thursday, 05/15/14 05:47:18 PM
Re: janice shell post# 313159
Post #313167 of 313215
February jump because of Colorado going legal January 1st. Washington State is next. So any thing can happen. I choose to be an optimist. Donnell will have to name the Premier Hydroponic Store soon. She said the deal is done. Shortly we will see, if she is really in the MJ biz and jumping on the bandwagon.
OMG! 1.951Billion O/S 132% increase since Dec 31, 2013
This is far in excess of even my wildest guess.
No wonder Donnell didn't want to talk with me nor answer my questions..
How is she going to deal with the matters at hand with these numbers??
549 Million shares left before reaches A/S.. and that was 44 days ago...
No Idea what is actually left.. but will use the 549 Million number..
Let's say she can "sell these on the Market" for .001(yes I know that is too high but giving benefit of Doubt).. that should give her about $549,000.00 to accomplish the following:
1) run the day to Day operation: pay pilots
2) Pay the new High Powered Executive recently added
3) Pay the IRS..$42,000 or so..
4) Pay for the Henderson Litigation (she included as Material)
5) Deal with NHSH debt.. QASP Owns NHSH 100% and Joe Canouse
says he has $4,000,000 of Debt in NHSH. Correct me if I'm
wrong, but don't believe allowing a company to be delisted
cancels Debt. Joe Canouse is a business man. I have great
respect and awe at his ability to convert a small amount of
debt into a large amount of stock. Joe will find deep pockets
to satisfy his debt..IMHO.
6. Deal with Conversion of 1960 PFD.A shares issued to Donnell,
Cirmo, and Joe for $98,000.00 in back wages. I'm sure Joe wants
his money in one form or another, again..IMHO.
7. Pay Legal costs for formation of New Colorado Company..Green
something or other for the MJ business..
8. Pay for MJ deal thing that is to be done by June 01,2014 or
so..
Quite a lot to do with a little time and not much money and NO MORE STOCK AUTHORIZED above the 2.5 Billion.
Considering this.. HOW is she still offering Private Placements with the QASP A/S nearly maxed out.. with a R/S split NOT an option as advised in CC??
Could it be that the PRIVATE PLACEMENTS are not in QASP but in the NEW Colorado Company Green something or other..??
But if so..why haven't we heard anything about this.. MAYbe NDA's ??? Everybody involved IN PRIVATE PLACEMENT who signs an NDA is prohibited from disclosing any information of the PP..?? Sometimes SILENCE says much more than words with forward looking statements..
She has to do something so we'll see what happens hopefully for the good of all us stockholders.
Much information to wade through so Good night and good trading tomorrow morning.
All just my observation and opinion.
Peace
SJO
The number of shares or total amount of the securities outstanding for each class of securities authorized.
2,500,000,000 [/b]1,951,333,920 1,925,333,920 299 Unknown
2,092 Class A 4 Class A
129,508 Class B 12 Class B
RookieStockPicker Member Level Thursday, 05/15/14 05:28:32 PM
Re: janice shell post# 313133
Post # of 313215
Private Placement, but not followed by a RS. Not sure how all this will work. To many shares could be a real problem here after a short while. Maybe Donnell will retire or buy back shares after the revenues start rolling in, to compensate for the private placement shares.
J’s Aviation, LLC, by and through Joshua R. Henderson, its owner v. Quasar Aircraft Corporation
Joshua Henderson, former COO and director for Quasar Aerospace Industries, Inc. and former officer and director of all its subsidiaries claims that during his tenture, Mr.
Henderson allegedly purchased Atlantic Aviation, Inc.’s Redbird Full Motion Simulator for Ten Dollars and no/100 ($10.00) and holds a Bill of Sale dated July 19, 2011 for said transaction. Quasar is disputing the validity of this transaction in its entirety. The simulator was subject to a collateral loan handled by Henderson in September of 2010 which went into default in March of 2011. The loan was never properly foreclosed upon. The loan amount was fully satisfied in excess of the amount due through
payments from June 2011 through September of 2011 and therefore all interest and rights to the collateral should have been released back to Quasar. The simulator never left the possession of Atlantic Aviation, Inc. at any time and was purchased and
belonged to Atlantic therefore Quasar Aircraft Corporation was not authorized to encumber it. Quasar awaits a jury trial to be scheduled on this matter.
March 31, 2014
I, Donnell J. Vigil, certify that:
1. I have reviewed this Quarterly Report of Quasar Aerospace Industries, Inc. for period ending
March 31, 2014;
2. Based on my knowledge, this disclosure statement does not contain any untrue statement of a material fact or omit to state a material fact necessary to make the statements made, in light
of the circumstances under which such statements were made, not misleading with respect to the period covered by this disclosure statement; and
3. Based on my knowledge, the financial statements, and other financial information included or incorporated by reference in this disclosure statement, fairly present in all material respects
the financial condition, results of operation and cash flows of the issuer as of, and for, the periods presented in this disclosure statement.
/s/ Donnell J. Vigil_____
Donnell J. Vigil
President
THIS IS MUST READ DD !!!
Good Stuff ?
QASP a "little LATE" to the MJ Penny Stock game?
Awaiting Reply on O/S
SJO
fink Member Level Thursday, 05/15/14 01:32:26 PM
Re: SJOGRINGO post# 312979
Post # of 312984
"Quasar Aerospace Industries, Inc.'s would like to announce that deal with the premier Colorado hydroponic and scientific grow supply store is done. The grow store has executed a binding agreement with Quasar. The acquisition will be through Quasar's wholly owned subsidiary Green Energy Investments, Inc., a Colorado corporation. All that remains to be done is execution of definitive documents at closing and the security analysis by Director Liann Francisco. Quasar needs to be prepared for installation of a point of sale security system following closing which will ensure that all inventory that enters the grow store is accounted for and all inventory that exits the store is being properly recorded. This will allow Quasar to realize the actual revenue being generated by the grow store. "
""LOL Show me where Donnell said that she REFUSES to give the current OS LMAO""
SILENCE speak LOUDLY on this issue...
SJO
SJOGRINGO Wednesday, 05/14/14 09:38:25 AM
Re: RookieStockPicker post# 312405
Post # of 312974
Ok... Donnell. What is the O/S Today?
Donnell..what is the Phone Number I can use to call the TA and find out the O/S the TA certifies on any given Day..
I will post her reply, If and when received so ALL Shareholders
have the SAME information to make trading decisions.
What is TRUE here???
SJOgringo
Quote:
RookieStockPicker Member Level Wednesday, 05/14/14 09:30:15 AM
Re: SJOGRINGO post# 312400
Post # of 312408
Call Donnell and ask, she has an open door policy.
Never buy/sell based on my posts.My posts are opinions
only.My positions are subject to change W/O
notice NOTICE: NSA reportedly monitors,copies,and
captures IP address of electronic communications to and from the USA.
linkvest Member Level Thursday, 05/15/14 01:03:41 PM
Re: Manti post# 312957
Post # 312959 of 312971
Your to funny and obvious. LOL Show me where Donnell said that she REFUSES to give the current OS LMAO.....
IF nobody Cares- Just POST the O/S daily and the NON Problem goes away..
IF this number is not Important..just post it..
I know this number is important to informed penny stock investors..
The O/S Will PROVE the CC and PR are correct...
why the fight for independent verification in a transparent Company..??
Make it easy... simple.. give the Public the number daily..
The reluctance to allow this number be made public speaks volumes.
Remember QASP is Differt..
It's New..
It's Transparent...
It's about Open Communications..
Make it part of the TOP 20%.... not the bottom 80%..
Simple solution...
awaiting reply
SJOgringo
linkvest Member Level Thursday, 05/15/14 11:34:23 AM
Re: SJOGRINGO post# 312875
Post # of 312883
Again I don't think anyone here really cares if QASP is gagged or not. It's not going to make any difference in the outcome of everything that is happening with the Donnell, mergers, partnerships, aviation schools...... notta nothing notta.
80% of pinkies are gagged so who cares.................
TRANSPARENCY-Update O/S daily on QASP website- Simple solution
subject to independent verification from the TA.. of course
What a great demonstration of Transparency for the Company
CEO to give to Stockholders and the investing Public.
Suggest all stockholders ask CEO Vigil for this open communication and transparency.
I confident this will impress potential investors in a penny stock MJ play..
Awaiting Relpy
SJOgringo
buckwheat112 Member Level Thursday, 05/15/14 11:04:56 AM
Re: penniesbgone post# 312869
Post # of 312880
Wrong again. Read it again, it's the TA policy. Done!!!
After talking with TA this Morning, I again wrote CEO Vigil
asking for current O/S (outstanding share) of QASP.
I attached copy of email sent to me from Island Stock Transfer
informing me that, at QASP request, I must make request for
share structure information to company directly
and they graciously provided me the email address
for said request.
I will keep ALL Stockholders monitoring the
iHUB QASP forum informed as to the status of a reply
from CEO Vigil and the contents of said reply as it
relates to the current O/S and share structure of QASP.
Awaiting reply from CEO Vigil
SJOgringo
buckwheat112 Member Level Thursday, 05/15/14 10:10:23 AM
Re: doughboy2 post# 312850
Post # of 312873
I don't believe that at all. It's the TA policy, not the company
Thanks Joe.Took your suggestion & called TA...
They gave me the following Information:
The company has asked that all share structure request be forwarded directly to them. Here is the contact email:
DONNELL_VIGIL@YAHOO.COM
Please note, we do not release share structure of ANY company unless the company authorizes such release in advance.
joecanouse Member Level Thursday, 05/15/14 09:09:54 AM
Re: SJOGRINGO post# 312773
Post # of 312848
1. I don't know bc the ta doesn't give the information out
2. the ta doesn't as policy and that has been their policy for quite some time....you can call them yourself and they will tell you that it is their policy not quasar's
I am pretty sure the company will have to file their financials so that should answer some of the questions.
peace
Thank you for the support
""AND great SHAREHOLDERS!! ""
I am humbled you feel free to express
that emotion ..Publicly
Peace
SJO
thetruth3333 Member Level Wednesday, 05/14/14 09:55:09 PM
Re: samplescave post# 312766
Post # of 312778
for those not familiar with the present, QASP will BE HUGE IN THE MJ industry, not just huge but will lead the way with ground braking Cultivation Center the likes not seen in the industry to date!!
so ride the hot wave of this NEW sector with the company, NO DILUTIONS AND GROW POTENTIAL AND great SHAREHOLDERS!!
pretty much sums it up..SO....
GO QASP
Once had 1,250,000 Shares-Now 1,250 after 1 for 1000 Reverse split...
Good luck to you & your friend on the 206,000,000 QASP shares..
I know exactly how you'll feel..
Peace
SJOgringo
dollarman1 Member Level Wednesday, 05/14/14 07:44:12 PM
Re: HOTROD_ZR1 post# 312724
Post # of 312773
I got 30 milly buddy
And my buddy got over 176 million
" you don't know what you don't know" IMHO best post of day..!!
Very true when it comes to QASP.
Joe.. You are probably in best position to answer these 2 questions as we also don't know what you know.
1) What is current O/S as of 16:00 new York time May 13, 2014?
2) Why is QASP Transfer Agent Gagged?
As information..As of 21:00 EDT May 14, 2014 I have NOT
received a response from either CEO Vigil Nor Transfer Agent
s per my earlier posts today and emails sent concerning current O/S @ QASP.
Joe... Maybe you add some clarity and transparency to the A/S & O/S mystery at QASP.
Paece
SJO
joecanouse Member Level Wednesday, 05/14/14 02:40:22 PM
Re: Stockfire409 post# 312647
Post # of 312772
isn't that what they said about acquiring A-cent, the 141, and SEVIS....you don't know what you don't know
can you imagine how much money is being offered Quasar the way it is trading now....if you cannot you really don't understand the public markets
this stock has traded almost 15 billion shares since the beginning of the year
imo she closes the deal but what do I know
gl tu
God forgives, I do not.
Let the TA Talk...I'll Move on..
PUT this to REST...
LET the TA be free & independent source of Information for investors...
Why is there a alleged COVER UP going on about the O/S
Outstanding Shares..??
Smoke... Fire???
Hmmmm
SJO
linkvest Member Level Wednesday, 05/14/14 12:24:27 PM
Re: SJOGRINGO post# 312566
Post # of 312572
Man sjo.. this is so old of a subject and it's been talked about in PR and teleconferences. Been hashed over about a million times. Can you please find another subject to harp on for a while.