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As I said...Been a long time...lol...I don't follow this board anymore.
What the hell...Man I sold all my shares here after the last R/S...but I'm so pissed off about this...This is crazy...What happened to "Genasense"? Been so long, dd I even spell that right? Good luck everyone still in this, I truly do mean that. Hopefully Ray Ray can get his act together this last time.
Another one? They just had one last year...pretty much same time...
Ok real...let's get over that...I think He realizes it was a bad time to have sent that particular memo...let's complain next week if we don't get an update...
you got me there dan...I have no clue whats going on here...happened so fast... .012 to .008 and potential loss of Walmart....i need to start drinking...
BEcause if the meeting doesn't go well, he does not want us to think it came from left field...
I don't dig this...I find those comments unwarrented...he's a flipper who posted another man's opinion for all to read...what's the prob with that?
I don't even know where to start...I am so confused right now...95% of us on this board stand by Eric even when we disagree with Winning Brands actions...For him to play the pity card in this email quite frankly pisses me off, more-so than I already am. He knows damn well no one is "nauseous" about the photos, nor do we think it is "beneath the dignity of the CEO" to clean graffiti....Come on now...He has done this many times and has gave us pictures to prove it on numerous occasions...It's all about the timing...IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT THE TIMING...This is the way I saw it..."Hey Fellow shareholders, we could lose Walmart Canada"...(hours later)...."oh by the way, heres some pictures for your IBOX"....I mean WTF, seriously? We are not in pre-school...When most here have given loyal dedication to the CEO for years...how could you do that? It obviously was a good decision to not abide by Walmart's change...but you DO NOT try to ease the pain that it will cause (both mentally and to the PPS) by sending us that second Memo...(whether or not it was for that reason, it was the board's overall perception) These types of Memo's were great before, and they will be great in a few days when things here calm down...but just not now.
I must of missed this rumor of Walmart though...I never knew people were talking about this...You know what's worse though...I'm tired of people here making a bad situation seem like it's good. AS of now we only know we could possibly lose a great Logo in our portfolio...We don't know anything else besides that. We know what Eric PR's and sends us via Memo...which is not always anything to brag about. We have had so many irons in the fire for months, but i'm wondering if the irons are even lukewarm...I am getting a little frustrated and I refuse to post in favor of things that don't like. I want to know how well or how horrible we are doing in the DRTV...I want to know why we have not had a CC date set yet...I want to know why we are sitting at .008...We have made no progression in pps since the last CC... we have decreased and most likely will decrease further on Monday.
We have all been chasing the never ending dangling carrot for months and for some, years...I mean, can we just get a nibble? I think that with Walmart doing this corporate bullying, we would be an even more attractive buyout. As realgood said, I would hope that any further offers, Eric would at least consider PR'ing it, whether he wanted to accept it or not...We need something here and fast...I have preached to family members and friends how great the Company is, but for over a year now, I have to keep defending them...not sure what to tell them this time...
P.S...this was certainly a bad week for Rocket to choose to go on Vacation.
And to quickly add....i almost broke my phone last night when I read that second memo....TH might of been playing around....but I seriously thought I was gonna gag last night....standby
Agreed TH...I'm on my phone and don't have access to a computer....but rest assure, when I get home I'm gonna say some stuff that's gonna piss some people off....all standby
Are you freaking kidding me?
:) It's truly not worth the time to debate
answer my questions and i'll gladly answer yours
So going off of what you said...please answer a simple YES or NO to these following questions...
It's bad because it's in pennyland
it's bad because the stock price is falling because people are getting out
it's bad because if it was good, it would be selling products that would be raising the stock price be revenues were good.
It's bad because the revenues suck.
what makes it bad? because you don't own it and want in?
i'm still waiting on specifics of why he thinks we are a scam.
Nice Blink...I think of an analogy....and you actually find a darn example of it...now thats funny...and yea...10 min of DD here should strike anyone's interest...It's makes me smile every time I see the Bulls with Bear masks on trying to discredit this company...and I smile even harder when I see people congratulate them when they make blind calls which end up coming true...
I think I speak for the rest of the board when I say...."Excellent Post"....
I don't care if it takes 3 years for this to get back to .0096 again...I'll be here to let you know...THE PPS INCREASED!....YOU WERE RIGHT!....lol....
We have been tracking "order numbers" since the WC Website went live....no one can confirm the numbers are true...that is why it's called speculation...we are making our own estimates based on the DD us Ihubber's conduct together, as a team...We will see if these numbers hold true when we get news...
Thank you so much Rocket...All these months of BS is going to come back to bite him in about 30 minutes...I'm gonna send them a complete detailed report...He better start submitting TOS violations on all his old posts...cause i'm going to use them all against him...
Let's see if posts here again...hopefully i'm not the last person to tip them...I want my reward...see ya Dennis...
You sure did buy the kool aid...and you drank it...then @ .0135 you took a breather...and then drank some more...Don't blame anyone for your thirst...no one can control that but you...
I highly doubt that PR was meant to be groundbreaking...just another PR explaining the potential...So IMO it didn't "flop" because it was never meant to do anything more than put out more info...
Then there is also a generation thing in play here, alot of older TV viewers don't care to use the internet, while younger viewers would much rather use their computer for ordering products.
I like the consistency we are seeing...but for some reason, I find it hard to believe all these orders are coming from people to shy to pick up the phone and choose to order by their computer...we've seen over 1000 orders...that would mean that 1000+ people have their computers by their side ready to buy...I think theirs something more here but I don't know what. Either the phone orders are indeed included in these order numbers or we are being played on more channels than we think in different locations...JMHO....other than the TV ad...does anyone know if the website name/link is being advertised else where?
Just remember...these numbers are all estimates...they could be completely wrong for good or for worse...But tracking these #'s and watching the amped up time slots and channels we are on is telling us we are probably more right than wrong here...the 2 week test is over tomorrow...I hope we get some news confirming some of the things we have been talking about the last 2 weeks...
wow...i think thats a first for MC? prolly just a glitch in the system...I highly doubt they charged ya...
you must be using american express?
I'm sure a product like that would be selling like hot cakes. Hey there would be no need for air fresheners...buy a bulb and you get two for one....Now that's amazing.....but...and there's always a but...What's even more amazing is the fact that the product failed to sell when it had it's chance...guess the company got to cocky...thinking their product was a must buy...when in fact it was just another product making claims that couldn't be supported....How long did you have to keep your lights on to get rid of that musty smell? And lastly, did the smell come back after you turned the lights off??? Just a few questions from a dude with no business sense...lol...
I may lack business sense as you say...but who cares...i'm not running this business...ZVTK management is...
In order to create a demand for your product and to get that wow comment, you need to promote it.
Yup you got me there...but i'm not going down here...you are...
Why, you can't explain it yourself?...lol...so not only are you losing money...your losing money due to listening to advice from another poster...Do your own DD and explain to me yourself...do you really stand behind Arnold this much? Wow...
now i know your wearing a dunce cap...did you not click on the link I provided 4 you? oh well...you wouldn't answer the questions honestly anyway so I don't need any further response from you...You'd find someway to twist it to make it look like ZVTK has potential....it's Whateva!...Your here to make money but actually lose it...I'm here to help those losing it go somewhere else to actually make it....you see...WE are the brothers here...not me and bozo...me and you are siamese twins....batman and the joker...thelma and louise....lol...
What makes your "style of bulb" better than the rest? The fact that it can light up a room....nah...all bulbs do that...the fact they have a long lifespan....nah....most bulbs have that....oh oh...i know...the fact that they can "supposedly" remove smoke from thin air....WOW....thats gonna make me want it...my house is filled with smoke...instead of opening a window...i'll just turn on all my lights wasting electricity to get rid of it...come on now...
BTW...you do have competition smart guy....the fact is...your competition doesn't have to run ads via TV to sell product....people just know to go to any of the hundreds of thousands of stores to buy a bulb...Gas stations... convenience stores...grocery stores...mom and pop shops...wow...ZVTK needs to get in those b4 they spend shareholders money trying to get in major retailors...thats called trying to build your brand to fast...their business plan is in shambles...
Their only way to recover is by trying to run TV ads...IMO...all of the other companies who sell bulbs are probably laughing at this small company trying to out shine them...If they can't sell product "in person"...what makes you think they'd be able to sell it via infomercial....They'd have better luck hiring a pitch man like Billy mays...oh wait....
see...this is exactly what i'm talking about....it's people like you who keep people holding on to false hopes...you already got chatham hooked...who's next...
The possibilities here are very promising...but how likely are they to actually happen...The product cannot sell themselves....You have to have a Great business plan with a foundation that cannot be broken...ZVTK foundation has been broken and unfortunately the only way to recover is to Reverse split taken the loyal shareholders down with them....Keep an open mind and don't believe the hype based on hope....believe it based on fact...
awww...nice job waiting...you messed me all up...lol...not even going to edit my last post...going off your previous numbers....you jacked my joke up....THANKS A loT PaL!!! lol