Sparky, you're a funny boy.

Ya forget that I've been postin here for 3 years and sayin this same thing for over two of em. Are ya suggestin that you've told me somethin I didn't know years ago or are just in that this is new info mood you mistakenly fall inta now and then?

I'm still waitin for ya ta understand the hydrogen new enlightment facts I've blessed ya with. You're a peach dude.

O ya, I never did hear comment from ya on the NIR v HLNT stuff I posted in reply to that nonsense ya tryed ta serve up. We gonna go there too.

You got it sunfun.

Look for the hedge when ya look inta Hedge Funds. NIR had their own game goin and were dumb enough to get into a high profile game with NORMA. We also know the were talkin to Madoff about deals. Friggin top notch plannin, don't ya think? Dopes.

No, not tellin ya that woog.

I only refer to the design/model of puttin together a scenario to short. C man was just a pawn in that game. His game is a much simpler more overt game. So overt that your so mamed M. Streep rep thought he found his needed man. One that would say he entered the deal because "it sounded fun". Then you can claim you're a 7 billion dollar fund like Magnetar. Every deal like this needs the Big Player, The Wiz Kid and the dopes. You can surely figure out who fits where. Streep still acts, Litowitz is probably pushin hard for Emmanual as Chicago mayor and NIR is what it is. I simply look to Stickler from the swamp gator boy to tell me what that is.

What a desperate load of TRASH is bein dealt out here.

Fact is, this company pps drops every week based on poor technology, no or cooked financial information, past convicted fraud felons as CEO's and despite claims to never increase the AS and be transparent they do just the opposite.

Buildin a company around a simple electrolysis ebay type unit has proven to fail over and over. That's just the product folks. When it's managed by fraud felons it just gets worse yet. Do a little DD shareholders. Look at the fate of hho public companies. They fail. No market.

Despite claims of becoming debt free this company is payin 7k a month on one small debt and owes some where around 11 million dollas to Hedge fund NIR. Some here would like you to believe that debt is gonna just vanish because HLNT hired lawyers to defend them in court as they were sued for nonpayment by NIR.

It';s been shown here many times that HLNT is bookin a ridiculous purchse order as sales numbers. Total deception folks, designed to make you believe there are big sales happenin. Nowe you also have the company payin distributors via a preferred share class that converts to common shares at a rate of 1 prefeered share for 10 common shares. The company will not report financials that are audited for obvious reasons. Where have those 100 miooion preferred shares gone folks? Yep 100 million that convert to 1 billion common shares that dilute your position as they hide it from you.

O yes, this is just a wonderful opportunity. Felons, no reportin. false press releases, no transparency, insider deals and dilution. Yet you have 5 or 6 guys that tell you week after week as the pps falls that this is a great opportunity. Are ya stasrtin ta see a pattern here folks. If not go back and look at some of the past deals these boys have been involved with. It's all easy to find if ya look.

Ask yourself this.

Does it make sense that a group building CDO's designed to fail would ask a hedge fund(NIR) with a model based on a designed to fail expectation to manage collateral? Does it nmake sense that both within their model would use second parties to play the short position that the model was built around? NORMA designers claimed otherwise and expressed outrage at such claims. So does NIR. Never forget the word hedge when you look into this world.

There ya are jnkie.

Made the original handle unusable? Okey dook. I didn't say anythin about your Seekin alpha BS or Terry Buhl. Could care less. Only time I mentioned Buhl is in a private email jnkie.
Me pay attention? Sure when ya have somethin that catches my interest. What you believe doesn't. I did originally consider there was nothin ta find. I know different now. I know where in needs ta go jnkie, just read my posts.

Jnk don't wanna play here anymore Hugh.

Good ta see you back Buff. Jnk should come back a defend Coirey for buyin those new wheels. Jnk likes ta work that personal business angle while the perp pimps around in the Beemer. Team that porkchop up with the Swamp bottom feeder Stickler and ya got yourself quite a PR machine, or so they seem ta think. seems ta me the air is outta the NIR balloon and Tanney, Cohen and the boys are think the poster hat fits em now. Clueless to a fault right to the end.

Stickler

Quit probin for reasons bro. I gave mine long ago. One a the NIR postin crew keep on me about NIR fundin so I came over here and educated myself. Once I did I was encouraged ta dig deeper.

I'm talkin about a Master Fund audit combined with testimony from others. It's comin pal. Now you're the messenger too. seems we got all kinds a new messangers now that the cards are fallin. Why ya need ta put a finger on what motivates? Does it matter?

I just noticed that a bunch a shares are bein bought here.

Maybe someone knows somethin I don't.

They will look into the Master Fund financials. It's just a matter of time now. Everyone's on to Ribotsky now. He's even psychologically distanced himself from his own family. He knew they gig was up a year ago. Still tryin in his mind ta act with a little dignity. In everyone else's it's desperation at best. The act ends as soon as charges are made and they will come. These aren't tough guys folks. These are talkers, deceivers and smoke and mirror guys that fall apart when the next stop is prison. Prosecutors know the game. The game is a case where their lawyer says cop a plea or do 20 years. All along I've said there is a much much bigger picture here than most understand. This is a package deal with a bunch a parts. Moving parts. Once the Master Fund is opened the DOJ will be on this like the Madoff Ponzi. Some of the big talkers like Tanney and Cowen seem to think gettin cocky is the thing ta do right now. Well boys, bring it on with your tactics and misguided attempts at damage control. Always the same MO with this crowd. Maybe jnkman will show back up and post again. The dude who went from knowin nothin to sayin don't shoot the messenger in every post. How bout you Stickler? Got any comment here or has the last line of defense packed it in?

My pappy said

"Son your gonna drive me to drinkin'
If you don't stop drivin' that Hot Rod Lincoln"

Have you heard the story of the hot rod race
Where the Fords and Lincolns were settin' the pace?
That story is true I'm here to say
I was drivin' that model A.

It's got a Lincoln motor and it's really souped up
That a Model A body makes it look like a pup
It's got eight cylinders and uses 'em all
Got overdrive, just won't stall

With a four barrel carb and dual exhausts
With four-eleven gears you can really get lost
Got safety tubes, but I ain't scared
The brakes are good, the tires fair

Pulled out of San Pedro late one night
And the moon and the stars were shining bright
We was drivin' up Grapevine Hill
Passin' cars like they was standing still

All of a sudden, in the wink of an eye
A Cadillac sedan passed us by
I said, "Boys, that's a mark for me!"
By then the tail lights was all you could see

Now the fellas ribbed me for being behind
So thought I'd make the Lincoln unwind
Took my foot of the gas and man alive
I shoved it on down into over drive

Wound it up to a-hundred-and-ten
My speedometer said that I hit top end
My foot was glued like lead to the floor
That's all there is and there ain't no more

Now the boys all thought that I'd lost my sense
And telephone poles looked like a picket fence
They said "Slow down, I see spots!"
The lines on the road just looked like dots

Took a corner, Side-Swiped a truck
Crossed my fingers just for luck My Fenders was clickin' the guard rail posts
The guy beside me was white as a ghost

Smoke was coming from outta of the back
When I started to gain on that Cadillac
Knew I could catch him, I thought I could pass
Don't ya know by then we'd be low on gas?

Had flames comin' from outta the side
Feel the tension, man what a ride
I said "Look out boys, I've got a license to fly"
And that Caddy pulled over and let us by

Now all of the sudden she started to knockin'
And down in a dips she started to rockin'
I looked in the mirror, a red light was blinkin'
The cops was after my Hot Rod Lincoln

They arrested me and they put me in jail
And called my pappy to throw my bail
He said "Son, you're gonna to drive me to drinkin'
If you don't stop drivin' that Hot Rod Lincoln"

Sparky you're paintin a picture that's just a wish list. Let me add some facts and respond to your numbered comments. The first thing you fail to mention is that Humphries and Robinson came in at the same time as the directors of SSEV. I probably don't need to explain that it is the company Directors that make decisions. Fiduciary responsibility is the key issue here and claimed ignorance doesn't fly. No forgery was ever proven as you claim in your last post. It's the only cover left for Robinson and Foster as they watched Humphries and Epstein get hauled off. Foster knows about liability and resigned as fast as possible when he saw the light.

When Walters put Humphries, Robinson and Epstein in place he knew that he was in a very bad situation as was NIR. He needed some new dupes in place and in came the trio. You should note that even when walters resigned he still used his address as the company address of record. Walters was pullin the strings all along. Epstein and Humphries were the two talkin to the sting team. Two idiots, yes. Robinson had already done prison time for fraud and stepped back for obvious reasons. He's bein watched close. Once Humphries and Epstein were charged Robinson needed to distance himself anyway possible. His sig is on docs just like the others and all were Directors. His only avenue was the forgery route. Claim that Humphries forged signatures. It's all he has and came after pure panic had set in.

1. NIR does not control or monitor funded company directives. All NIR had and needed was the security contained in the notes. That was the assets. An appraisal is a mute point. NIR controlled all or the assets and only cared that their notes were paid as contracted. NIR depended on the Directors of SSEV, Robinson, Humphries and Epstein to run company business per their legal fiduciary liability. Any illlegal transfer is the responsibility of and liability of SSEV not NIR per their approval of what the Directors were offering.
2. What makes you think that NIR will be held responsible for what the SSEV Directors claimed and proposed? Of couse NIR had only one objective, to convert shares. That's what NIR does and it's the SSEV directors that knew that and offered a deal to assure conversions. Sure Humphries and Robinson knew they needed to produce something of value and to pay notes as agreed upon. Where does that make NIR who loaded real dollars to the company a bad guy?
3. NIR had no obligation to continue to fund. You've already stated that the SSEV directors were scramblin to PR sometin of value even if it was total smoke and mirrors. Would you continue to fund a company run by these felons? Doubt it and better yet would a jury expect you to.
4. Where did you come up with the FBI sting as a way to get NIR. Take a closer look and you'll see a bunch of bad actors that stuck out like a sore thumb. The bonus for the FBI was that some of those bad actors worked with NIR. RICO laws do give certain rights but the only thing a jury will see in this case is that NIR wanted it's notes paid and that's not against the law.
5. Humphries wasn't removed. He resigned because he was pledin guilty to fraud. What does an NIR conversion demand have ta do with anything. NIR does that everyday. All Humphries left behind was documents that made SSEV Directors liable for fraud. Hense the Robinson late claim of forged docs. Which is only a claim comin from another convicted fraud felon. The jury will know all of this very fast.
6. The Epstein lies and trip to prison just made it all a clean sweep. Robinson and Humphries are convited felons and Humphrieas an admitted on tryin ta reduce his sentence. The jury room should be a fun place to be as they discuss the SSEV Directors and their honesty in testimonies.
7. Duh
8,9,10. What will come out from Humphries is that Walters, Robinson, Epstein and himself all knew exactly what was goin down. That they needed to come up with some way to pay a real debt. That the proposed a deal the formulated to NIR and NIR said "fine with us if our note payment demands are converted". Nothin in what you've posted points to any wrong doin ao NIR's part. Olny that the Direstor / felons that ran SSEV were at it again. This is a slam dunk for a jury. NIR will fall by the way but not at the hands of dudes that are worse than NIR. The only thing of interest in this whole case is how Walters comes out. That may lead to some very interestin investigations.

Here's the last I saw of a fraud perp who like NIR has been claimed to have done, ran a huge ponzi rip off. The offshore company similarities and how that was pierced are interestin indeed. It's time for dudes like this to think real hard. The smart ass in court attitude doesn't play well at days end. It's understandable why guys like Dworkin and Humphries decided to turn evidence to avoid prison. Despite all attempts to prove otherwise these are far from tough guys. These are talkers. They talk a great game and will try to the end. We're seein a lot of brand new posters on this board as the noose tightens. Tryin ta sway opinion is their game. I've said from day one that you sit guys like Dworkin down and explain his options in detail and that any lie ends the talks. Humphries partner Epstein lie and went directly to prison. Dworkin and Humphries are now singin loud. These Kingpin cases take a long time to finish.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1327421/Allen-Stanford-beaten-jail-inmates-awaits-trial.html

Badger

Just a bunch a bad actors with no gig. I know the players, know the game. Deals will be cut but we need ta go through this little game first. Comes as a bonus with the territory.

Ya I'm pretty smart Stick. Dudes like you don't like it and are always the ones who bring it up. Now we do agree on one point, "ya can't change the facts". Ya can pretend they don't exist but smart guys like me could care less what you think. See we just connect the dots stick. Where those dots end up just is what it is. That balloon you're blowin that hot air inta just aint gonna fly bro. not here. You keep thinkin about who's smart and who's not Stick. Be careful though cause if ya hurt my fellins I may never post again.

Instructed to Hugh. What else was he instructed ta do? I don't think Dworkin bought in ta be Corey's fallboy. Seems the Stickler wants that all put neatly in dworkins lap. Pretty cheap damage control ayyempt. Don't see anyone buyin inta it.

Investor/partners ya mean?

Once David Walters saw the light and had his wife invest in NIR he put steven Humphries in place who now is convicted of fraud. The Gelmons take over companies in default of NIR notes it appears and convert away. Corey doesn't put them in place for no reason. Hugh was just kiddin when he asked if they worked for free. Medgen was another in the system of hedge methods. Plenty more you can be sure.

Think on this Hugh

Dworkin appears to have gotten kickbacks from one deal finder, Envision Capital. They also player the Medgen consultin scam together. Corey testified that he lost his memory a bit but dealt with many deal finders and brookers. Dworkin got canned for playin his game with just one, Envision. Do ya thgink he saw the game bein played with all these other deal finders and got his bright idea from that? Do ya think some clown is gonna come to Corey with a 10% fee as finder offer and not get Corey's "where's my cut" speech? Do ya think Gelmons never sold a share? Probably not with the companies that their names were associated with but you can bet your ass NIR sold those company shares. Deal finders work either side as needed. Notice the Gelmons don't claim they never sold other shares or shorted. Why do ya think these boys teamed up in Haverstock? So shareholder could make money? Look at the players and look to the potential hedge. Similar to how all the players were shocked and outraged at the NORMA hedge that NIR was ass deep into. It's all a set up Hugh. That's what goes on much of the time. NIR looked for companies just like what they got. That's a big part of what makes it work (cash flow) The rules of deception are simple and apply everytime. Corey is outraged right now too.

Listed as partners with Corey.

Need I say more?
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1450748/000114036110030099/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml

Do me a favor DD types.

Read this link and look for NIR connections. It's probably pretty clear by now that I believe there's much more to the NIR, Dworkin, Medgen, Envision Capital connection that most understand. Do assume anythin, just let the dots connect. The obvious guy in this link is Tom Heysek who was an exec. at Medgen. Guys like David walters and Gelmon are also important in this game. An entity like NIR and their business model attracks this sometime loose, sometimes tight group of players. The DOJ is on this trail 24/7. The bottom line is that as soon as a company like NIR or Madoff can attract real money investors and appear to be above board this group comes out of the woodwork with schemes to hedge. Note that Corey testified that he worked with over a hundred deal finders I believe it was. So far we know of one, Envision Capital who worked with Medgen who hired Heysek who all dealt through Dworkin and NIR. All of thesed dudes make their money from the funded companies. None questions Corey's lifestyle cause he's the catalyst that makes the engine run. The deal finders shake down the companies who need funds bad and will sometimes sell their souls to get it. The deal finders play ever side they can. Commission, Consultin, warrants etc. and shortin when possible. Usually the companies have no idea what's comin their way and NIR investors are flat out taken to lunch. Corey flys around in a private jet and pays himself millions a year. Every toy ya can think of is in his hands. There is a shelf life to the game and most know it. The longer the game goes on the more money gets in play and opportunities arrive from the group in this link. Just like Madoff, you need to keep initial investors happy to keep it alive. When it matures you have to cut off your spendin or investor redemption requests. An economic dip is the trigger. So is NIR a ponzi? Make your own call after ya follow the dots. Are they in violation of their own note terms? We'll see soon. Here's part of the cast that makes it work. Remember, they all talk and one can see another hedge and make money without doin it themselves. It's the nature of the beast. Damage control comes near the end.
http://www.junkfax.org/fax/profiles/wsp/wsp.htm

Interestin list Hugh.

Did ya also see that Hydrogen Power Inc. HYDP was suspended too. If you look at that company you'll see the exact same template as HLNT who's ex CEO is cooperatin with authorities about his NIR connections. Looks like the fraudsters all grabbed onto the hho hydrolysis thing back around 2006. Even California Senator Mimi Walters husband David. Walters was the CEO who appointed Humphries who was caught in the FBI sting. Humphries then appointed another convicted fraud felon as HLNT sole Director and CEO. Seems these boys have a network of real class individuals who play whatever game is available at the moment. NIR in their great wisdom is into HLNT for some 10 million. Now the new felon CEO and NIR are in court and the old felon CEO is tellin his story to the DOJ. A look into the HLNT financials would be very interestin. Senator Mimi Walters has also been listed as a NIR investor. No new news on her position these days but I'm bettin she was able to cash out of NIR while the investors who post here are left holdin the bag. The fact that Gelmon shared an office with Humphries who was put in place by Walters is interestin. Think we might have a shortin US Senator/NIR investor? Wouldn't surprise me at all.

What was "Hydrogen Now" Sounds like the same ole simplistic hydrolysis unit. Looks of patent mumbo jumbo but no detail here. Input anyone?

Inbtro shows two US officers. A CFO and seretary. Who was the outside the US CEO?

This has been dead so long I doubt any insiders remain with company info. What's the story on the principals here? Who's bright idea was this?

trading suspended today

Starting to see the light?

It looks like many who post here are. Time for the smart folks to just deal with reality. It's just sad to see nonsense games played like the 1st qtr earnings joke. No backup, no fact, nothin,just posts about 1-2 million in sales from a company that uses shares to buy trailers from the local poker playin used car salesman. Another old Charles Foster buddy for sure. Foster is also a used car salesman. So you have a fraud felon, local plumber and a used car salesman or two runnin this show. Real records show that this game is business as usual for the teal. Come up ith some lame dog and pony show, con the public, run up debt and then file bankruptcy. What do ya get that real here? I see the company still uses the word transparency when makin public some cryptic nonsense about usin shares to buy trailers. Or some deal where some unidentified Directors received shares and paid someone for somethin. Just tellin you people that their are usin those preferred shares and are not transparent. Expect a reverse or authorized increase or preferred share increase very soon. NIR is gonna drag HLNT inta deep water no matter what. Dongfeng is a Madomi Int. relationship from past failed Chinese Motorscooter attempted sales. That's your company rep that deals with China. Yep, another local Farmington failure. By the way, for those who still like to post about rotary engines and surfboards. Do your DD on Madomi and rotary engines. What ya have here is a small backwoods Arkansas group that tries a new game about every three years. Some here think havin ex HLNT CEO Steven Humphries in court is a good thing for HLNT. Got some bad news for ya folks. Humphries is in a position where he needs ta tell the truth. You are ready for the truth unless net loss is your goal. Seems the perps here are also droppin the sham lawsuits they use as a tool. Robinson learned that from his past businesses with Jim Bolt and John Dodge. Look it all up folks. Stop pretendin that all of the sudden these boys are gonna clean up and get smart. Old dogs, same old tricks. Anyone payin attention? Some are, look at the pps and volume. Reverse comin soon. The 10 million NIR debt is gonna be a tough pill ta swallow. No financials gonna tell ya about that little problem gonna be published here. Be careful here. Too many eyes watchin HLNT and thats a problem

It all sounds Yiddish ta me.

Was that a southern accent bro was tryin ta lay down?

Not makin sense JJ.

You'd think it would a come out in Discovery. Startin ta look like a cheap show ta me.

Hey JJ.

What's the word on this Mizel dude? That 5 day too early thing is just too dumb for me ta buy. Did the dude demand a redemption and then sue before the deadline? I didn't have a whole lot a interest in that case so I'm really in the dark as ta what the hell was goin on there. What's your view?

Just like the Medgen/Envision Capital deal where Dworkin was the frontman.

Same with the investor meetins where Dworkin was the frontman. So I'd say Dworkin is the dude to ask about shortin. Sure Dworkin is gonna sing. What do ya mean about Yellin doin the Sand 504's. You claimin Yellin invested via a 504 offerin into Sand deals or Yellin help put the 504 together? All the reason the RICO/Kingpin route makes sense here.

pdgood Share Sunday, July 18, 2010 1:25:01 PM
Re: None Post # of 4560

Offshore boiler rooms and Medgen.
Dworkin, envision Capital, Medgen. You'll find more than smoke diggin here.

R. D. writes: I bought 5,245 shares in an American company called Med Gen Inc through stockbroker Pacific Continental after being cold-called by a salesman. That was in 2004. Late last year I was called by Morgan Capital Partners of Hong Kong, who said they could sell my Med Gen shares if I first paid about US$10,000 (£6,100) for the removal of a legal restriction attached to the shares.

I paid this and then I received a letter from the International Mergers & Acquisitions Commission saying that warrants attached to my shares meant I needed to send a further $36,715, though I managed to get this reduced by half, which I paid.

Then in February a further letter from IMAC requested $51,401 for taxes. Morgan Capital got this reduced to $25,700, which I sent. Now all contact has ceased and Morgan Capital does not reply to calls or emails.

As you must know in your heart, you have been swindled. The dud shares sold to you by the notorious London broker Pacific Continental cost you £2,035, but you have lost a further £ 34,000 to the crooks at Morgan Capital Partners. They told you that your shares in Med Gen had mysteriously become worth a fortune and that as soon as you paid the various sums due, you would receive about £120,000.

In fact, just as Morgan Capital was contacting you last November, investment watchdogs in Hong Kong were issuing a public warning, saying the firm was not licensed there and that there was no sign of it at the address it was using.

I am sure you were reassured to receive the letter from the International Mergers & Acquisitions Commission in Tokyo, which seemed to know all about the MedGen share deal, even if it did ask for money to cover taxes.

Sadly, IMAC, which poses as an international market regulator, is every bit as fake as Morgan Capital Partners.

You paid all these demands by bank transfer. Payments to Morgan Capital of Hong Kong went to an account in Belize, while the 'taxes' demanded by the international regulator in Tokyo went to a bank in Costa Rica. This might have sounded alarm bells, but clearly didn't.

You have been defrauded and can take a complaint to the police, though in all honesty I doubt whether much, if anything, can be done. You know where your money went, but you have no idea where the fraudsters might be.

Ironically, after a series of reports published in Financial Mail, Pacific Continental Securities was investigated by the Financial Services Authority and went out of business.

Thousands of its customers who were cheated are now in line for payments from the Financial Services Compensation Scheme. More than 3,000 have applied so far and about 2,000 have already been paid a total of £25m.

If, as is likely, you were mis-sold the Med Gen shares in the first place, stake your claim by contacting FSCS (phone 0207 892 7300).

I am just sorry that any payout will cover only the original £2,035 you invested. There is no compensation for losses to foreign fraudsters.

Short sellin?

A risk? A hedge? Some posters here have made a point to claim shortin was not possible. Guess NIR mentions the impossible in their Notes and Risk Disclaimers for no reason? Dworkin, Humphries and Gelmons. An organization formed to defraud? Wire fraud? Anyone besides Hugh startin ta see the light?

What subject is it that ya want me ta do homework on?

NORMA or ECMH? I've done a bundle on both. NIR was a patsy. A willing patsy. Guess we're back to the short position discussion again. Patsies made money too. Why do ya think a full audit is the last thing NIR wants? Not sure what the hell you're talkin about with ECMH. I don't tell anyone to buy stock. I tell em that I own none. Woogster's around, we talk now and then. Woog knows the game. He's probably gettin a chuckle now and then.

Raven Dave, yes we do know about the preferred conversion.

Here's your link buddy. It's 1 for 10 common and has preferred rights over your common. Brace yourself pal and dig a bit deeper if you're smart.

http://www.sos.idaho.gov/tiffpilot/tiffpilot.exe?FN=\\sosimg\corp$/%5C20100927%5CCORPAMEN10270105445.tif

HLNT has more dirt than even NIR. Who cares what either say or who wins what? I talk technology pal. ya up on that stuff? Don't tell anyone how to invest. At least no one who posts here on Ihub. Your two pasted posts were tech talk. Do your homework and you and me can have the same technology debate if ya wanna. I need someone like that cause no one lasts. Can't seem ta find anyone who knows what the hell their talkin about. I just happened on HLNT while doin some DD on electrostatic fuel bombs. Same with ECMH cause they got technology I DD'd back in the 90's for military apps. Rotary engines and various fuels. Medgen hit the radar cause of a stock buy back scam run through Morgan Capital. Made some calls and found out NIR and Medgen were in bed tagether. Read some Medgen Q's and saw they reported big income from NIR referred consultin jobs. Follow the dots bro. It helps if ya have a good memory. Mine's real good. NIR caught my real interest when NORMA fired up. The subprime stuff had scam written all over it, day one. Plenty more but that's enough for ya ta noodle out. Some people just have a need ta know. All kinds a reasons why. This rag is just the tip. You'd be surprised how things link tagether. Hell I'm just talkin three degrees a seperation here. Could be much worse and you'd be even more frigged up. Damn there are some strange people in this world.

Less burden of proof needed.

Lok at what they call the Kingpin cases. Dworkin has already given enough. Humphries and Yellin even more. Investors have a sht load. The Medgen scam was RICO material too. Try on the 7 billion dollar fund non audits. Lifestyle, new money payin old. Smells like ponzi ta me when ya look at those companies Ribotsky told investors were top notch money makers. Just pile up that stuff and ask the right questions with the right offer of cooperation to Dworkin and friends. Humphries too. They can do damage control all day long here and it aint gonna do nothin but motivate.

RICO allows for the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes which they ordered others to do or assisted them, closing a perceived loophole that allowed someone who told a man to, for example, murder, to be exempt from the trial because they didn't actually do it. Both the federal and civil components allow for the recovery of triple damages. Under RICO, a person who is a member of an enterprise that has committed any two of 35 crimes—27 federal crimes and 8 state crimes within a 10-year period can be charged with racketeering. Those found guilty of racketeering can be fined up to $25,000 and sentenced to 20 years in prison per racketeering count. In addition, the racketeer must forfeit all ill-gotten gains and interest in any business gained through a pattern of "racketeering activity. RICO also permits a private individual harmed by the actions of such an enterprise to file a civil suit; if successful, the individual can collect triple damages.
Ask Dworkin and Yellin about Medgen and Envision Capital. In fact Dworkin already testified a bit on that scam.

On March 29, 1989, financier Michael Milken was indicted on 98 counts of racketeering and fraud relating to an investigation into insider trading and other offenses. Milken was accused of using a wide-ranging network of contacts to manipulate stock and bond prices. It was one of the first occasions that a RICO indictment was brought against an individual with no ties to organized crime. Milken pled guilty to six lesser offenses rather than face spending the rest of his life in prison.
On September 7, 1988, Milken's employer, Drexel Burnham Lambert, was also threatened with a RICO indictment under the legal doctrine that corporations are responsible for their employees' crimes. Drexel avoided RICO charges by pleading no contest to lesser felonies. While many sources say that Drexel pleaded guilty, in truth the firm only admitted it was "not in a position to dispute the allegations." If Drexel had been indicted, it would have had to post a performance bond of up to $1 billion to avoid having its assets frozen. This would have taken precedence over all of the firm's other obligations—including the loans that provided 96 percent of its capital. If the bond ever had to be paid, its shareholders would have been practically wiped out. Since banks will not extend credit to a firm indicted under RICO, an indictment would have likely put Drexel out of business

Scott W. Rothstein is a disbarred lawyer and the former managing shareholder, chairman, and chief executive officer of the now-defunct Rothstein Rosenfeldt Adler law firm. He is accused of funding his philanthropy, political contributions, law firm salaries, and an extravagant lifestyle with a massive 1.2 billion dollar Ponzi scheme. On December 1, 2009. Rothstein turned himself in to federal authorities and was subsequently arrested on charges related to the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).[31] Although his arraignment plea was not guilty, Rothstein cooperated with the government and reversed his plea to guilty of five federal crimes on January 27, 2010. His sentencing is scheduled for June, 2010.[32] Bond was denied by U.S. Magistrate Judge Robin Rosenbaum, who ruled that due to his ability to forge documents, he was considered a flight risk.[33] On June 9, 2010, Rothstein received a 50-year prison sentence after a hearing in federal court in Fort Lauderdale.

You're playin now sunnyboy.

See it all the time. Hlnt aint got a chance and I'm the one who told em. Ck it out. I don't think I've posted on ECMH about anythin their doin this year. Never told the world they were a good buy. Do know they have some great technology. Humphries is gonna be front and center. watch and see. RICO is a friggin no brainer with NIR. Don't know where these lawyers are missin the boat. Easy case. Now do ya wanna post that I'm paid by some company again or not? You're comin up empty bud.

Calm down peedee. Not trying to discredit you"

Sunnyboy ya gotta quit backpeddlin if ya want me ta take ya seriously. Earlier taday ya posted that I was paid be ECMH. Ya made sure ya posted my name as Pee. I'm wonderin if ya wanna make that claim usin my PDGood Ihub handle. If ya got facts backin ya I'd think you'd have no problem makin that claim ritch here bro. I'm thinkin ya are tryin ta discredit me and when push comes ta shove you're gonna cut and run. Ya also posted about Mob ties. I think I've posted about the Forbes article "The Mob On Wall Street" here about 40 times. I'm actually the dude who posted that tie years ago. Did ya know that the dude in that article had Medgen connections Sunny? How about Envision connections and NIE connections? I'm waitin for someone like you ta go down that path once again. What you're gonna find is that I'm the dude that originally posted it all. Wanna go there bro? I'll educate ya. I doubt ya do and really want ta find out if you're gonna make that claim that anyone assoiated with any company I post about pays me anythin. Give it a go brother. Do let lack of confidence hold ya back.

No I'm not catchin on dude.

I know the facts when I post. Many way ahead of others who think they know. There's a huge difference in the two companies ya mention. Do the DD, you'll catch on. Either that or just wait and you'll get it later. Makes no difference ta me either way. I would even give the HLNT/NIR suit another thought if it weren't for Humphries and his group tryin ta stay outta prison. I'm lovin the damage control group and the threats. Threats are designed for someone who have somethin ta hide. Last ditch attempt type sht. No one has ever had the rocks ta email me directly with any threat. You can dress that pig up anyway ya want and I aint gonna dance to the tune. You boys are even claimin Ihub is gonna pay the price. Well dude, I'm sayin the perps don't like that kinda light. We even get the posts like Buff is bein watched 24/7 now. Funny how they all fall back on the same cheap trash and expect a result. Did ya read my post today on my view of the perps fates? I think ya did. What do ya think Sunny? What about the RICO route? See anythin there? Got a beef with anythin I posted on that or the connections between perps? It just comes down ta usin your ammo. Seems real friggin simple ta me.