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Just laughing at how I killed the word liquefaction.
Power and all thanks.Not many companies out their publically traded that I could find in coal liquidfication.Interesting hw mention in their pr's working in inner mongolia.If you read the entire article about china that is where they are building.Probably working together to some extent.Their has to be some start-ups you would think.http://www.321gold.com/editorials/reser/reser090705.html
Etchay,Careful with that one with pennsylvania getting slots approval.I live 10 minutes from Pocono downs race track that was purchased by a tribal group and will be getting slots soon.Also in the pocono region a local business man is building a resort with slots.We are basically in the ne corner which is close proximity to catskills.But when it comes to gambling maybe everyone wins.
Bobwins,Are their any companies in the U.S. building coal liquification plants.I noticed the article in 321gold that pertained to gpxm.I live in the northeast and with all the coal up here it would be a boom for the faultering economy in this neck of the woods.I deal in biz with a lot of chinese and they are very intelligent people and once they trust you will do anything for you.With our energy crisis here this country better put politics aside and start investing(until completion)money for alternate energy sources.Too much talk for years now we are paying the price.Here is the excerpt from the article:Now back to the Liquefacton portion of this report. The China Daily News online on the 03/12/2004 carried an interesting article on China's liquefaction projects. They stated in part that China has set up its first coal liquefaction research centre in Shanghai, a move to safeguard the nation's increasing oil supply shortage. The centre will explore and develop direct and indirect liquefaction technologies to produce gasoline & diesel fuel.
Shenhua Corp. one of China's largest coal companies w/ an 80% interest in this centre, has almost completed construction of a US $3.3 billion coal liquefaction plant in Inner Mongolia. Operations of this plant are expected to commence in 2005 to produce 1 million tons of gasoline and diesel fuel p/yr. By 2008 they expect to produce 5 million tons of oil with four more production lines. The second phase of the project will involve an additional investment of US $7.3 billion. Plans for two more coal to oil projects are on the shelf.
In another article by People's Daily news of Jan. 24/05 it is stated that by 2013, 10% of oil imports to China will have been replaced by coal liquefaction. The article also states that international indicators show that the process is profitable at between $22.00 to $28.00 US p/barrel and that the National Reform and Development Commission is considering making coal liquefaction one of China's key construction projects this year.
The other aspect of this trend towards liquefaction is the use of recycled tires and plastics in the process. The plastics alone it is estimated comprise approximately 21% by volume of US landfill sites. There is obviously no need to mention the quantities of used tires in the world. The process for the process involving tires & plastic is called Co-Processing and is achieved by combining feed-stocks of coal with the other two products simultaneously.
Need info:I have been noticing gasoline thefts and gas cap sales soaring throughout the country from various newspaper artcles.The big manufactuer of caps is a division of tks trading in the 21.00 range.Their has to be a play here for the board in a micro that deals in this area.I just cannot find it.Did anyone look into this area or know of any plays in this area.The larger plays besides tks are dcn,smp,pby,azo aap.Looking for otcbb,amex,nasdaq priced to get leverage.Thanks Bob
Hey Rig,back trading/investing again.My biz keeps me busy march-labor day and dec.How about this my first trade back was zenx(sweet) also entered snpd yesterday.One of these days folks will relize what cbyi is all about.Other than that great year at my biz locations and nice summer up here in the northeast.Bought a pool finally and is still being used.Will talk to you soon.Bob
stock190 in yesterday and yes snpd undervalued as compared to others in sector.Cbyi also will be a good one although may take a little longer.
money/syna re:cbyi should have been trading in the .04-.05 area before the reduction of shares.
Money re:cbyi MM also possibly shorting either between each other or naked.Should be nice
syna re:cbyi low float now even lower and very tightly held.
Syna re:cbyi super low market cap with 12 million in properties built up in a few months.Also sale of tlco software for a million dollars coming.Cheap imo
cbyi volume surge eom
Hey guys,could someone give me a pink sheet level 2 mm list from alpha trade on ahdg.Thanks Bob
Yea doc I know but I am not done buying yet shhh eom.Boy some of the posters over on rb enough said.
Yea Trade this is not over.Have to let it cool down and let the panic sellers and intraday traders cool off.Keep on watch.My long term penny hold had some good news today cbyi.I have a board on ihub with all the releases since transformation mid jan.Later Bob
Yea Dragon got stopped out this morning at .17.Will watch for re entry.To many traders messing with it now for penney flipping.A profits a profit.The value with amre is unbelievable though.
Yes it was a good "interesting"
nebula.One thing I love about the markets is after investing/trading over 20 years,not trading that long is new scenarios come up weekly.You could never learn enough about the markets till the day you die.With amre the facts are it is worth 2.00-3.00 dollars based on their holdings.The facts are technical guys will say big sell off because it ran to fast.The fundamental guys will say way undervalued should trade above 4.00 based on current prices and future growth of the sectors.The mm's will do what they want,that needs fixing.That is why I just picked a middle of the road fair value number and to me it is reasonable.Bob
Russel,kind of reminds me of the old days of the tech incubators like cmgi.They would develop companies,spin them out and remember where cmgi price was in the day.Although not as flashy as the go go nasdaq days amre has two very good spin offs with great growth potential.We shall see.Night
Nebula thats the numbers,What the forces of the market do with them and where we land are anyones guess.Should be higher than current levels though even with the current move.Night
Dragon what do you think?Todays closing calculations based on closing prices of nauc and rbsy along with my own opinions.I will sum it up as not to bore everyone.Nauc closed at 4.00 rbsy closed at 1.16.The value of our holdings in both is 129 million our shares out are 44 million.This equates to 2.93 shareholder value in amre.The markets will never take us to 100% value of shares being held due to market fluctuations.With that being said I will give the powers of the market a 50% decrease in the value of both nauc/rbsy(ridiculous but am low balling the figures).So even if nauc and rbsy were at 2.00 and .58 respectively amre should still trade at the 1.46 level based on the calculations above.In my opinion and this is without fundamental growth prospects their is no reason for amre to not be trading between 1.00-1.50 just to catch from being undervalued.Technicals have nothing to do with this as undervalued stocks that get noticed will rise to fair value then form a new technical base.No one can predict the markets but these are the numbers both currently and low balled.We shall see later
Dragon,Just finished reading 10q and it looks pretty clean and good.Especially since spinning out nauc and rbsy.nice
Dragon exacly correct.This post this morning gives a good breakdown and shows why amre is playing catch up in valuation.Repost from this morning along with a little of my own input:
Repost of break down from ihub investor.I agree with the dd except a ten bagger this week.In time yes but not to fast is best for everyone.I also see huge expansion in the nauc business model.The concept is in its early growth stages and picking up steam fast.http://www.net2auction.com/open.html I am a business owner and am going to inquire about the franchise.REPOST:AMRE – this should be the easiest 10 bagger to catch this coming week… if you can get any shares in the AM on Monday.
It is a small technology company that quietly launched two of its subsidiaries into publicly traded companies. The market has taken a liking to them both – providing great gains in both symbols. But the quiet parent company has been sitting in the corner, facing the wall, with its mouth shut.
Well now word started to get out on Friday. Even after Friday’s gains, with the stock closing at 5.5cents the market cap is less than $ 4 million, whereas the market value of their stock holdings in their subsidiaries is in the tens of millions.
VALUE BASED ON CURRENT FIGURES --
65 million shares out. (Currently only 45 million, but 20 million is remaining in an s-8)
AMRE owns 25 million shares of its two subsidiaries NAUC and RBSY (both public companies).
at Friday’s close –
RBSY $1 per share
NAUC $2.75 per share
25 million shares of NAUC at $2.75 PLUS 25 million shares of RBSY at $1 = $68.75 million
So the value of these two holdings gives AMRE a value of $1.06 per share ($68.75M divided by 65 million shares out).
So when these current values are reflected in AMRE share price – it would be a 20 Bagger from $0.05 share price on Friday.
VALUE BASED ON PESSIMISITC FIGURES --
Assume AMRE, for operations S-8s another 35 million shares and pushes out the o/s to 100 million shares.
Assume RBSY fall down to 50cents from Friday’s $1 PPS.
Assume NAUC falls down to $1.50 from Friday’s $2.75 PPS
AMRE owning 25 million shares of RBSY @ $0.50 + 25 million shares of NAUC @ $1 = $50 million
$50 million divided by 100 million shares outstanding = 0.50 cents per share
How much more pessimistic can we get? This still creates an easy 10 BAGGER from Friday!
VALUE BASED ON OPTIMISTIC FIGURES—
Too dangerous to even go here!!! Already a 10 BAGGER pessimistically and a 20 BAGGER based on current values!
Word on this company is getting around, and it sounds like some deep pockets dipped their toes on Friday (i.e. Tobin Smith rumour, see Rbull). Any stock available to buy Monday morning under twenty cents may be a blessing this time next week, IMHO, based on the plain and simple figures shown above.
Tuna while I was out today the same thing crossed my mind.It certainly is a option the company has.Bob
Mercury you are correct.Dont forget amre other holding rbsy 1.16+.11.That technology is also a nice sector.Funny how these guys have 2 winnere.Amre should play catch up just to a fair valuation based on these holdings.Bob
AMRE interesting post from ez tradin board.Makes sense:AMRE – this should be the easiest 10 bagger to catch this coming week… if you can get any shares in the AM on Monday.
It is a small technology company that quietly launched two of its subsidiaries into publicly traded companies. The market has taken a liking to them both – providing great gains in both symbols. But the quiet parent company has been sitting in the corner, facing the wall, with its mouth shut.
Well now word started to get out on Friday. Even after Friday’s gains, with the stock closing at 5.5cents the market cap is less than $ 4 million, whereas the market value of their stock holdings in their subsidiaries is in the tens of millions.
VALUE BASED ON CURRENT FIGURES --
65 million shares out. (Currently only 45 million, but 20 million is remaining in an s-8)
AMRE owns 25 million shares of its two subsidiaries NAUC and RBSY (both public companies).
at Friday’s close –
RBSY $1 per share
NAUC $2.75 per share
25 million shares of NAUC at $2.75 PLUS 25 million shares of RBSY at $1 = $68.75 million
So the value of these two holdings gives AMRE a value of $1.06 per share ($68.75M divided by 65 million shares out).
So when these current values are reflected in AMRE share price – it would be a 20 Bagger from $0.05 share price on Friday.
VALUE BASED ON PESSIMISITC FIGURES --
Assume AMRE, for operations S-8s another 35 million shares and pushes out the o/s to 100 million shares.
Assume RBSY fall down to 50cents from Friday’s $1 PPS.
Assume NAUC falls down to $1.50 from Friday’s $2.75 PPS
AMRE owning 25 million shares of RBSY @ $0.50 + 25 million shares of NAUC @ $1 = $50 million
$50 million divided by 100 million shares outstanding = 0.50 cents per share
How much more pessimistic can we get? This still creates an easy 10 BAGGER from Friday!
VALUE BASED ON OPTIMISTIC FIGURES—
Too dangerous to even go here!!! Already a 10 BAGGER pessimistically and a 20 BAGGER based on current values!
Word on this company is getting around, and it sounds like some deep pockets dipped their toes on Friday (i.e. Tobin Smith rumour, see Rbull). Any stock available to buy Monday morning under twenty cents may be a blessing this time next week, IMHO, based on the plain and simple figures shown above.
Hey Doc still accumulating.Took the week off from my business and the markets last week.Needed a little R and R. See some nice news came out.Looks like its going to be a interesting few months coming.Bob
Art,sold the rest today at.07 overall a decent profit.Entry was ..08.Will keep my eye here as like I said before it is basically a clean shell and when something is rolled in here big move up.On Watch.Bob
No damage done here and as a clean shell it should get some play as it was at a 52 wk high of .08 before this situation happened.Later
ART,did sell half at .024 from .008.Still holding the other half as basically free shares.Although the news was not good the reality is that technically it is way oversold from .08 when the same situation existed.Why does it matter?Because it is also basically a clean shell and we know what clean shells can do.Since even if it goes to 0 I did not lose anything much.Since they are free shares and something will be rolled into this shell I will hold because of the situation discussed above.Later
BCIT this volume should complete the consolidation we were looking for yesterday between .02-.03.eom.
BCIT,volume almost 3 mill in 20 miutes.Light volume Ace???
BCIT-wow huge volume last 5 minutes.eom
pdc-bcit,they should be with those rev. projections.eom.
Yes greed technically should get and pop over 200dma before consolidating.Based on rev projections who knows but those are some big numbers going to be generated for a tiny bb company.Either way slow but sure is the way to go.We all know what happens when they go straight up.Bob
Looks to me as though bcit was pretty much just a shell.Now that the Carter care centers are being folded into the shell and rev projections are very good looking forward that is reason enough to trade at much higher levels.Plus the oversold bounce factor and this could be very nice.Hopefully the penny flippers are out and took the small bounce.Looking at a number of technicals we really did not have the big breakout considering the drop from the 52 wk high of .08.Will see soon enough Bob
Agree pdc,I learned alot about those mid range pullbacks in the ipo gogo days few years back.Boy those were the days it was like stealing candy from a baby.Remember all those ipo runners,always opened ran pulled back 50% and continued up.I think we need old clinton back in office,at least the markets were humming back then. Bob
Matt:BCIT the bashers arrive over on rb.Gotta be a good sign,usually is.Could not get on hub for a while their.Bob
Art saw that buy also.Looks like we will get your between 5-10 mill consolidation as I am basing it from around 30 mill and we are approaching 35 mill.The revs will keep this going.Bob
Matt BCIT excerpt from arts earlier post.Consolidating nicely here.25MM number is just the authorized. We don't know what the actual Outstanding is yet. Could be much less, Hopefully I can connect with Carter tomorrow and nail that down. The authorized is the worst case scenario, and that's not too bad in this particular case.. )
Not to mention the 2 year $35MM/yr and 4-5yr $100MM/yr projections in the 5/2/05 pr..he he