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Yes - I have from IR.
Nothing ironclad, but Tony addressed my questions.
Possibly. Maybe naive too. Only can speak for myself. I'm not ashamed to admit I seen great potential in EI. Remember 5*, constructive means from all angles with merit. You do well with that.
I sincerely feel for those who have lost on this and take no joy or play monday morning quarterback on their investment approach. At least I have filings to follow now. <cough>
tradingfool - Rest assured you're not alone in reference to long term ETNL holdings. Be careful how you state your message. We need constructive discussion and input on EI and ETNL from all involved. Friendly observation meaning no ill will.
Trust me - some feel your pain. GLTY
They (EI) are working to straighten out the confusion on the O/S numbers. Also, finalizing the 10Q.
The S-1 had a full page table of at least 20 people identified as Noteholders who would be converting their Notes into stock. Those debts were removed from the books and stock was issued as was stated would happen back in December 2008.
These were some significant notes, and therefore significant amounts of stock.
Ok thanks. lawrenzo too.
Doesn't excuse 3 years of incompentence by auditors (2 yrs) or EI. Enough said.
Trying to support PPS, major < choke > red for me.
Anyone get a confirmation on the current O/S?
Come on EI get the 10Q filed!
Hi Bee
PM line will give it a kick. Star Trek should too. I wouldn't expect anything out of the VLC near term.
I'm still digesting the 10K JP. Operating losses increased almost 100% from 07-08 (16M).
Man, I can't express enough how much I want EI to prosper. Just constructively sorting this out.
GLTY
At the least the 10K is filed. No doubt it's terrible, but now peeps can follow EI with some confirmed declarations. Get that 10Q out ASAP and continue their filings in a timely fashion. IMO, they got some serious issues to address (some were already known) to foresee a promising future.
They threw a curveball with no renewal of the VLC license at this present time. No VLC products on hand either. Get it done.
A bad 2008 was expected, but I didn't think it would be this bad.
They need to release the 10Q PRONTO. Maybe it will downplay this awful 10K.
50% drop in urn sales from 07-08. Huh???
Well, at least they picked up another vehicle lease @ $1800 a month. Only a $400 increase over the pre-paid leased vehicle averaged @ $1400 per month. Nothing like operating in a sensible manner when you're drowning in the red.
Doesn't matter. It was bush league on my part to quote you or any other investor. Sometimes the best intentions of objectivity become asinine distractions. After an unbias review, I can seen my own participation.
After 2 1/4 years and 141 posts I've learned many things related to investing on this board and before leaving it - May EI rise to its potential and my fellow posters share in their prosperity.
WOW - Little testy this fine morning - LOL
Actually you were correct and stated earlier 10Q should wait on 10K being finalized. I see no problem with it - right move far as I'm concerned.
Merely posted filing on board. Didn't bash with 100 hours of BS banter. I'd say you're reading me wrong, but oh well.
Sorry - Late filing
YES to PR's
NO to anymore 12 page 2nd or 3rd party Sandstone reports posted on EI website. March 08
Can you confirm, like in the past, if NAR and EI cut all ties after EI contracted with Selective Development to secure future prospective financing?
We haven't heard from you in a while. Just curious, as the stated investment advisor for North Atlantic Resources (??), what's your outlook at this present time for EI?
Whatever it takes - bust those chains that are holding EI hostage.
Yeah.. good opportunity for cheap fills for investors, but also opens, once again, great opportunities for flippers that have to be churned out.
EI assuredly has a dedicated pipeline and demand for their licensed products. Now get their act together with the stock. #1 priority - get off pinks, like it was yesterday.
Been around here almost from the start and agree that you're a realist. Strongly opinionated backed by good DD. As far as the company goes, I don't always agree, but I'm always open to digest your points.
I can't wait for all this BS to hopefully to be a formality.
No big surprise here that the AF's are not complete yet. I'm sure most longs remember the prior AF's done by Demetrius - they took forever to get done. Peeps/investors don't have to be labeled nay-sayers through constructive history pertaining to those issues my martian ally.
It's a shame all the reporting isn't complete - the earlier momo would have put the company and the stock in a terrific position.
Now the only thing I can do is wait. It would be fantastic to know the trusted reasonable length of time, but when someone can figure that out, please let us know.
GM BEE -
Good week for ETNL so far.
How many shares? I take it was a sell.
Let's see another 466K paint @ EOD. :>)
Bring on that buck - Instant "Life of Riley" with my holdings. Heck, I'd even fork over the capital to EI for the fins. Ya here that Demetrius. Chop-Chop
Good day to you HS5 and all ETNL posters
The way I read it is: EI's SEC counsel has the 10K completed as far as they can without the financials. They need the audit team to complete the fins to wrap up the 10K and get it filed.
Yes I was. It seemed like forever. I'm assuming this is the 14th business day since they have been in their hands. Hopefully, a lot faster this time. It's a long drive from FLA to MI. LOL
Sorry Bee - Lets get some good news on ETNL today!! 10K, 10Q, a rash of PR's.
You are correct!! 600 HP, 200 mph absolutely one helluva machine. 30,000 ETNL shares @ $4.00 and it's yours. BTW - Mario Andretti picked up 2 of them @ Corvette Museum earlier this year.
Woohoo!!! I could live that lifestyle.
I hope you are able to get a ZR1. That would mean everyones EI investment paid off.
Good Morning Bee
Lets install a 426 HEMI in ETNL - Good old American power to get it moving :)
No - you are not.
This is my opinion.
The company communications are sometimes misleading to investors. Yes, the key words are should, expected, etc.... I have brought this up to them and it probably relates to the concrete timeline references. They have been preaching the expected transparency and uplist since the 11/1/06 PR revealing JP as CFO. Geesh, that was 2 1/2 years ago. All the communications stating these intents have been readily available to all investors through shareholder bulletins and PR's. So, you would think a valued investor would be able to get a response with substance concerning the companys stated intents. After all, the company revealed the intents, sometimes with timelines to their investors. Credibility suffers, but Tony (IR), great guy IMO, is just the messenger for EI.
Over the same period the company (no one else) has executed decisions on toxic financing, reverse split and an increase in authorized shares. Personally, I've hung on through all these red flags due to EI's enormous potential, but there is no way I dreamed the same issues with the stock would still be relevent to date. Heck, their website is SNAFU and doesn't seem to be a priority for quite a period of time now.
There's more, but I've carried on long enough. My question - Is Mytych on the level with shareholders as it applies to ETNL or is his intent been/is to take us all for a ride. The future should, expected, etc.... tell.
After the 10K is submitted and ETNL is uplisted - What is the 1st Q 2009 date to report?
I guess a better way to state that is - What is the typical time frame a OTCBB stock has to report their Q's after the quarter closing date?
Anybody from this board have the date of the message below from Mytych? It was before the website change. Thanks
Message from the CEO: Clint Mytych
Dear Shareholders and Friends,
Perhaps no word best reflects the zeitgeist in this country than “change.” The slogans are everywhere: “ready for change,” “change we can believe in,” “change we deserve”… For better or for worse, times are, in fact, “a-changin’.” In line with the times, Eternal Image is undergoing its own period of change – in our case very beneficial change - from which we will emerge a financially stronger and more efficient company and a powerful force in the funeral industry.
Credibility is key. During this quarter, we anticipate that our stock will move off the Pinksheets and onto the OTC: Bulletin Board exchange. To the investment community, nothing signals credibility and reliability more than a company that is fully reporting and current on filing requirements. While our time on the Pinksheets gave us valuable and crucial experience needed to function on a higher exchange, we share your eagerness to see Eternal Image become a fully reporting company.
CFO Jim Parliament leads a competent team that is more than capable of meeting the upcoming demands of transparency and disclosure: well- versed accounting professionals, legal counsel that has been part of the SEC in the past, and an auditing firm among the most respected in the country are just a few components of this team.
We envision reaching the Bulletin Board with a buoyant stock that is resistant to Market Maker manipulation and shorting. Upcoming announcements to be made via news releases (after the transition to OTC:BB) are expected to have tremendous impact because of the greater visibility provided by the larger, more stable exchange.
A Maturing Production Process
Eternal Image’s venture into the funeral industry was met with some hesitation: finding manufacturing partners was a challenging process. In the beginning the Company had only a single manufacturer and, consequently, we were bound by their unappealing yet crucial terms.
After doing business for more than a year with a single supplier, Eternal Image gained the attention of other manufacturers and the respect of overseas manufacturing facilities. Our developmental processes started changing rapidly. In July of 2007 we had one source of supply; today, we engage a half-dozen. Experienced supply companies that can weather the storms of fluctuating currencies and other forces beyond our control offered better terms and quicker lead times. Put simply: the Company’s cash flow situation is exponentially improved thanks to the relationships with these seasoned partners.
Another significant partner, in the area of global logistics, has been engaged by Eternal Image to manage this efficient new stream of product and details about them will be saved for a forthcoming news release.
Funds now available from improved cash flow have allowed Eternal Image to expand its Licensing Agreements to include additional licensed funeral items. We are no longer only a casket and urn builder. Expect to soon see each of the brands in our portfolio grow to include exciting new additions that will propel Eternal Image even further into the industry and enable us to capture greater market share.
While many of you have only been acquainted with our company for a couple years, others know that Eternal Image began as an idea more than six years ago and operated as a private company personally funded by its founders and their friends and family. No one is more thrilled about these changes than those of us who have brought it to this place.
Challenges overcome in our past have shaped this change for the future. There are so many more changes to cover, but I don’t want to steal the thunder from upcoming announcements that our incredible PR firm ASAPR distributes on our behalf. Take the National Funeral Directors’ Association annual convention for example. At the 2007 Las Vegas show we had a 600 square-foot booth that won Best in Show Design and had so many attendees that velvet ropes had to be set up to allow for controlled admittance—unprecedented for this show. This year the convention is in Orlando and would you believe we are nearly tripling our booth size and expecting even greater attendance?
The shockwaves felt by our presence are not just limited to members of the funeral industry. Consumers write to us regularly, genuinely thankful for the availability of one of our products because it served as a perfect, fitting remembrance for a loved one.
There’s so much more to share with you in the coming Quarter:
• The acquisition of new licenses.
• A twenty-fold increase in our number of distribution and dealer centers.
• The launch of a new website and corporate image.
• Product placement in upcoming media including motion picture.
At the risk of closing this letter in the same cliché manner as I opened it—let me say the best is yet to come! We are nearly out of this mandated SB-2 quiet period and you will know very soon what we’ve been tirelessly working on for the past few months. In the meantime, you can look forward to reading some of the latest Eternal Image news in our upcoming Newsletter that will be distributed next week.
A simple want for improvement leads to the inevitable: change. But when there exists a careful plan of action founded on conquered trials, the change becomes a movement that ushers in a new era. In our case: an era of greater credibility, efficiency, profitability, and immeasurable growth. We are in that movement now. These are the steps that prepare Eternal Image for its entire future.
Thank you for being a part of it.
What's your thoughts? Do we get another shareholder bulletin before a PR? I keep thinking this stock has to fall in line with the companys potential, EI is going to support and take the right actions in reference to its stock, but it just keeps dragging on and on. How much longer can long investors be strung along with the repeated should, expected, projected.... instead of transperant no bs results. Congrats to the day traders, flippers dream for them. I'm well aware the 10K is still in the hands of Demetrius.
I know you are positive and hard on the company when it
warrants it. But dam Lurker, when/will this viscious cycle be broken? Is Groundhog Day on extended play in Farmington Hills, MI in reference to ETNL? Will the results stay the same weeks, months a year from now? To date, it's been a terrible investment.
Sorry - Long thinking out loud - DD failure on my part.
The finalization of the 10K should be close, even in EI time LOL. Lets go audit team - light a fire and get moving!!
Isn't the stock the main issue for shareholders? The company has had plenty of time to show integrity for its stock. The young and inexperienced factor is wearing thin IMO. Is it always going to be some issue out of EI's control that reflects on shareholder value? Once again, it's way past due.
Company and stock need to bridge the gap. They might as well go private and save investors the pain.
Like some posters, I agree, even though the company has constantly preached on the primary goal of getting uplisted (dating back to 2006), move on w/o it and let it come by due process.
Isn't the state of the stock a result of EI's actions/inactions?
"HMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!" Just kidding :o)
Have a great weekend Bee!!
That would be great. Of course if they sell at current PPS. I do my best to be patient, hard sometimes, but they will be gone eventually and we should know by NITE actions. IMO.
Now it would be nice to figure out LABS intent. I still believe, one day, that EI will control their stock, but it won't be in the immediate future. The quicker the better.
A positive point - I think NAR once held upwards of 80M. Now it appears to be 35M. Licenses, products and distributing lines still unscathed.
At this PPS about 360K would take the NAR (Emerald) 35M shares out.