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THE SACRIFICE MYTH..
If as you believe that JC was God and God could never die, how then was JC dying on the cross a sacrifice, especially when he miraculously rose from the dead 3 days later?
Webster dictionary defines sacrifice as "a: destruction or surrender of something for the sake of something else; b: something given up or lost."
There was NO SACRIFICE, it is A MYTH!
Matthew Chapter 10..
Verse 34 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."
(Based on this verse, you Christians should absolutely love Bin Laden!)..
THE MYTH OF JESUS - PT 1..
The end of the world was supposed to come 2000 years ago, Jesus is reported to have believed and taught that the world as people knew it was coming to an end; he was an APOCALYPTIC preacher, according to the New Testament -- IT DID NOT..
Matthew chapter 24, Mark chapter 13, Luke chapter 21, all
speak of an apocalyptic end time, with earthquakes, famines, wars,
with false prophets and religious persecutions, with mass deaths and
turmoil. He stresses that no one knows when this will happen, so we
should keep ourselves ready at all times. In Matthew, Mark, and Luke
he says "This generation will not pass away till all these things
take place." Though he says no one knows the day and hour, he
apparently thinks it will be "soon", within the lifetime of those
hearing him speak. In matthew 10:23 he says:
When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next; for truly, I
say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel,
before the Son of man comes.
Given that he thought the world was ending, the Day of Judgement was
coming when all would be sorted into the saved and the damned, going
to Heaven or Hell respectively (Matt. 25:31-46), it makes perfect
sense that his ethics were utterly unworldly, radically unworldly. He
put no value on earthly wealth, fame, power, or family. He urged his
followers to forsake all of these to focus entirely on purifying
their own character, doing good works, and spreading the gospel. You
are not seeking to have a pleasant or successful life on Earth, you
are applying to get into Heaven when the Earth is destroyed.
In Matthew chapter 16 for example he says
24 Then Jesus told his disciples, "If any man would come after me,
let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. 25 For
whoever would save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life
for my sake will find it. 26 For what will it profit a man, if he
gains the whole world and forfeits his life? Or what shall a man give
in return for his life? 27 For the Son of man is to come with his
angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay every man
for what he has done. 28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing
here who will not taste death before they see the Son of man coming
in his kingdom."
Hi Happy, for some reason I enjoy banging my head against the wall too - Lol! Your God is feared, this is even part of the Christian indoctrination.. that is to FEAR GOD! So you MUST fear Him. Now why would any rational, non-brainwashed person actually choose to fear the myth? Let's understand the word 'myth' first from the Dictionary -
1. a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, esp. one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
2. stories or matter of this kind: realm of myth.
3. any invented story, idea, or concept: His account of the event is pure myth.
4. an imaginary or fictitious thing or person.
5. an unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social institution.
I would say #5 is a sure hit on this one, with #1 #3 and #4 close seconds!
It is very very strange to me that those from 9/11 and Katrina should profess their belief even more based on catastrophies which, to normal people who believe in God, would only re-inforce His VENGEANCE!
There is just one reason for this -- FEAR! You are all DEATHLY AFRAID NOT to believe.. Am I right here?
In any event, (please save the Dogmas), a loving One does not purposely allow this type of destruction and sorrow.
And look at the wars -- You have Bush's christianity and Bin Laden's Islamic beliefs battleing it out, each believing the other will burn in hell for not believing as they believe. The result is thousands of useless deaths of each country's youth. How ignorant -- This should be a NATIONAL DISGRACE for each country!!
As for proving there is no God, that's easy if you have a week to go though it all, but your brainwashing would never permit you to accept validity anyway, and I'm not really here to try and change anyone.
That was a very sweet story Pilgrim2..
It was especially heart-tugging the way little birds were used, personally I would have picked them all up and wrapped them in a swadling blanket and laid them in a heated manger inside my house rather than in the barn. However you are unable to explain why this agnostic would suddenly sink to his knees in the snow after hearing Adeste Fideles. Surely the story is not attempting to 'prove' the existence of Christ simply by realizing the birds were afraid of him..
Each of your answers represnets fear-based Dogma, not Reason..
You say I should believe in a mythical being, one whose existence cannot be validated. Have you seen the move 'The Beast'?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40867
Christianity is in fact a pagan myth, having borrowed identical concepts from Pagan religions.
http://www.medmalexperts.com/POCM/
Religious people sound so primitive to me..
Its a real challenge trying to incite rational argument with religious zealots, each time I have attempted to converse using rational arguments I get rebuffed with phrases such as 'I will pray for you', 'God Bless you', 'I know Christ in my heart', and of course 'Amen..' it goes on and on.. Theists aren't even aware they're doing it, not aware they no longer show the capacity to reason, are they ignorant or just lazy? Maybe you fear the reality of aloneness and the discomfort of uncertainty..
Let me tell you a little story - I lost a love once and was so miserable that I took a trip to a wonderful place. When I got there I couldn't be anything but miserable, so I had a good cry and sang a song to myself, it was The Rose.. By the time I finished, it was as if a weight was lifted because suddenly I realized I hadn't lost my love, because the love I felt was still inside me. I could still give it away and love again..
The joy, comfort and love you feel are your own..
You'ld be surprised at the number of people now refusing to believe in 'The Big Lie', we are EVOLVING..
Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins explains why God is a delusion, religion is a virus, and America has slipped back into the Dark Ages..
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/04/30/dawkins/index.html
Atheism is not a philosophy; it is not even a view of the world; it is simply a refusal to deny the obvious
http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/200512_an_atheist_manifesto/
http://ravingatheist.com/
http://www.atheistalliance.org/
http://www.celebatheists.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
http://www.atheists.org/
http://www.freethinkermatch.com/
http://www.americanatheist.org/
http://www.ethicalatheist.com/
http://atheistempire.com/main.html
Just Proving PHBT is your Worst Nightmare.. Bwhajaaa!
Baggies, Lookie Here....
It takes just over (55.555) 9,000,000 Share Sells to equal half a billion shares. It takes (6,666.666) 9,000,000 Share Sells to equal 600 Billion Shares (the new AS number) for PHBT. Now looking at the chart, since February (when excessive volume came in validating the dilution), there has been only 157.5 Billion shares traded, of which trading could only account for less than a third of this number. Therefore you can figure the dilution is just over 1/6th done. So this will continue until either the other 5/6th (500 Billion shares) is dumped, or the price goes to zero, at which time PHBT would be forced to either leave the the board or announce a hefty RS! HoHoHo..
Beam Me Up, Scotty....(You know the rest), Bwhajaaa!
Miguellara, ok here's one...
Supposedly if god gave us the ability to reason, why would he reward those who choose to follow in blind faith and torture those who use deductive reasoning?
Furthermore why would most people in the world today be brought up in faiths devoid of the knowledge of the bible's books, and not privy to such, and therefore deserve doom after death?
Why is it only the latest revision of homo sapien for the past 2k years who is privy to this god, what happened to the naked ape's predecessors (ie: Neanderthal and Cro-Magnan Man)?
Finally, doesn't it make sense that the concept of death is so hard for us to accept that man would make up a superior being to replace the parental comfort of his youth? The history of man shows he has always sought out some concept of a supreme being to deal with these fears.
Bwhajaaa!! Burning BBQ Pit..
Well, if there was such a thing (my frame of reference applies here, of course), how could I feel anything like heat or fire if my body is dead? That would mean dead nerves, dead brain to register any pain, dead tactile function, etc.. you get it now? This is another one of those fairy tales that don't make any sense, just like believing santa clause will come down your chimney and leave xmas presents (when most people in the world don't have a chimney)..
IGAI Waking Up! (Chart)
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13639602
Esyn, that was not an attack on anyone..
I simply stated the reasons for what I believe and said so, I wouldn't tell anyone here their beliefs are invalid. I may decide your beliefs are dogshit, and you can think likewise about mine - but I would never say that simply out of respect for another person..
I had a catholic up-bringing, complete with parochial school. This is a good reason for anyone to become agnostic.. Lol!
Its a game of risk where the odds are definitely against you. I only play these on the upswing, and I don't hold overnight. As this bear market progresses even that little movement will be gone to traders..
How does santa claus leave presents for kids who don't have a chimney? What can I say, except growing up in a tough neighborhood helps dispel the myths early in life..
Lol! These guys are in the business of knowing how to make a buck, and what they know is the money tree grows in the Over the counter markets..
Death is hard for us to accept..
But all life ends in death. What none of us know is what lies beyond (if anything). But physically we die, its all over at that point, our minds are gone, our bodies turn to dust, who we were is no more. Peace comes with acceptance of this natural law. Likewise if I do good, its not because of any God, if I do wrong, its not because the Devil made me do it. Life is just that simple and I can deal with it very easily..
The above are just my thoughts and philosophy.
Yes Roach, its fine with me..
Since there is no god, nor demons from hell for me to contend with, I'm content allowing reason as my guide. Until JC can come up with a more valid story, I'll stick with cause and effect..
Holy Moly, but since you asked - I assume eternity will be spent in the same manner it was spent before I existed, unbeknownst to me, and as irrelevant then as it was before. Besides, I could never sit in a heaven that doesn't allow pets..
Seems the Bear in these woods has a full stomach..
He eats other animals just to survive, you poor corpses just hung around too long..BWAHAJAA!
Thanks, skeen.. Luv it when I get to belly-laugh right thru an entire paragraph like that - Great Stuff!
Interesting that you think politicians are in check..
The whole system was designed to keep the minions in check, working very well so far with rampant gov't paybacks determining US law. I think the Italian mafia was a much more honest way of doing things than goes on today.
As for your savior, I'ld just as soon take responsibility for myself, too many Christians out there passing the ball around to the holy ghost, jmho. Actually I can't imagine our having that kind of importance in a universe filled with all sorts of life to think only our branch of the evolutionary tree was ordained with the 'one and only god of the universe.' To me that fits right up there with santa claus and the easter bunny..
PS: Watch out for people like me who burn bibles in their spare time.. Bwhajaaa!
Take care!
Reality in the Bear's Woods is Ugly, the animals eat each other just to survive for another day -- those with full stomachs are easy prey.. Bwhajaaa!
Sounds like they're trying to get Baggies to Buy so they can Dump on Higher Grounds.. Bwhajaaaa!
Guess I'm too Slippery for ya, Stju..Bwhajaaa!
BaggieFarts Hoping to Sell at $0.0001 - Bwhajaaa!
Bad Newz, Baggies...
IMNR on the Toxic Shock List of the DILUTION POLLUTION Kings, Cornell -
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13545141
HoHoHo!
Too greasy eatin' for me..
Hi Baggies..
Down here in Texas we have great lil whorehouses, best ones you can find just outside city limits. Just look for a trailer off the road lit up with lights with those Reynolds-wrap windows. Anyway, those gals are always the sweetest lil things. Often times they even take stock in trade. Now wouldn't that be a better way to spend ur days than watching the weeds growin' on PHBT? Bwhajaaaa!
!!! 47.8 BILLION SHARES !!!.. BWHAJAAAA -- SUCKERS!!
Tom, I don't have to go to Florida to know..
If they had anything but an idea on paper their website would show it.
This is where you get acquainted with the few companies out there that do succeed. I look for ground-floor opportunities, about 90% of the time success depends on the people in charge, that's what DD is all about at these levels..
So what happens when the patent gets approved?
There would still be no sales, no manufacturing, no marketing, no facilities or employees. A company on the pinks doesn't even report financial information, so what's all this DD about? All investors see are pr's that PHBT puts out and a never ending spiral-down chart with massive dilution going on. At $0.0001 there will definitely be a reverse split, its where this one is headed. No investor on-board at this time can ever win..
Now that's not to say this company is bad, its like every other Pink out there where they have a legitimate right to steal your money. What they do with that cash determines where they go from here. The company has a long list of scholars on-board who can be researched and verified. Stong is heavily involved in the African health crisis, for instance, so they're not quacks in my opinion. But that doesn't make me want to own this stock at this time, maybe down the road after the 60 billion shares are cleaned up and some momo is created for their future product, but not now. Only fools do what you people are doing - that is only my opinion also..
Hey, I'm not saying its a bad company either..
All I said was the point was moot whether Doxey carried any charges relating to the incident because it was thrown out due to a technicality and the charges originated due to nothing more than his giving additional documentation to the records in the memo section of the checks. I don't consider that falsifying records when it was clearly nothing more than clarification of the facts on his part.
FYI, All Doxey did was put info on the Memo section of the checks paid to parties indicating they were officers of the company. The point of law used by the superior court to overturn the negative decision of the lower court was the fact that the petitioners went past the allowable 10day period to protest. Therefore, had they protested this within the 10day period, they would still have gotten Doxey on the charges which the supreme court would have upheld. In any event, all Doxey was trying to do was specify what the check payments were for by indicating their status. It was all a legal game anyway on both sides.. Sheesh!
BWHAJAAAAA!! Fun Board Sometimes..
Between the Baggies, the Stuckies and the Basher-Baggies or Ex-Stuckies, ya gotta luv how the bulls compensate for their stupidity using a mental IGNORE button -- Bwhajaaa!
Yep! PLRS is Another Winner on the LooneyHub..
Here's how its done - Just get an account overseas where you can short pennystocks. At 2cents a share, its a DEFINITE 200-BAGGER by the time it reaches $0.0001, thanks!
Bwhajaaa!