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Those may be LB's coming off "voting" restrictions.
Pilot Plant is at BC Research complex.
The new EDGAR SEC search text engine is very quick and efficient.
One has to be careful how many words one keys in. It will find iterations of all individual words.
I used "reticulated" and PTI's text of a May 17, 2006 form was about number 6 or 7 down from the first company among dozens.
PTI has leased 1000 sq ft from Vizon Scitec at:
BC Research
3650 Westbrook Mall
Vancouver, BC
Isn't this where you used to work Hasher?
Longs: I'm surprised you didn't counter Hasher with this info sooner.
BTW, not much change in the BID to plant news as of 11:00....
..............maybe the dreaded "financing" shoe is still to be dropped.
And on and on we all go.
I think Pilot Plant address is in 10k. eom
Bid opens up. Sells hit 178K. Bid goes down. Ha.
I guess I should stick with Smart money.
I probably over use the cliche "the Market knows" because all of us investors in PWTC are obviously the market.
However, there is someone who does the paper work, makes the Plant equipment, loans the money, does the legal work, or are the relatives and friends of said people who find out about the glitches and the achievements in any company.
These folks are the actual "smart money" and when they explain to their brokers and friends, etc why they're selling or buying it doesn't take long for this group to move the stock in a small company.
IMO this is what happened in June and July and then the uninformed discouraged ones capitulate and sell on the lack of news/information and we wound up at .07.........
I agree, the delay reasons must not be "fatal" or we'd be down at .01 or .02, but...................................
IF the glitches are surmountable, why can't we get a simple explanation and course of solution?
This company is not some secret murder case with the much Ballyhooed client--lawyer priveledge clause.
It just irks me a ton that those in-the-know kept selling below .15 when the rest of us OBCers just kept hanging in there, AGAIN, to wind up at where we are.
It also irks me that I finally capitulated and sold 350,000 shares over the last couple weeks between .07-.082 on the continuing lack of information to at least protect myself a little. I have a lot more remaining so I'm still "in".
Maybe we'll get some inkling what has transpired with the mid year 10Q. Maybe.
The quarter ended July 31st, correct?
Enough
PTI/K Long batteries should be powering ZAP cars.
Total silence from the company would be great...............
if the stock was soaring. The smart money would know.
The 7-8 cent silence treatment we've been getting just reeks
of "hiding", management retrenchment, etc, etc.
The market doesn't like silent stock price declines.
Unfortunately, the Market is saying so.
imo, IF K Long WAS impressed, with the progress, pace, and projections of PTI's production plans......................
PWTC would be at .70--.80 cents instead of .07--.08 cents.
The market knows. The market is speaking................
even if we have perked up slightly this morning.
Re:ZAP. I'll bet K Long is unimpressed with us by now. eom
Hasher: Ref 13913 &13914. Most I can do. eom
Hasher: Thanks. I was thinking "Alvin Snaper something".
Trainz: What's ASM again? eom
Otter: I'm not sure PTI has a "seasonal" PR plan.
Many companies seem to play the investing season game but I'm thinking PTI doesn't plan one whit when it releases PRs.
Hopefully, the company is making SOME level of progress that will result in ANY good news.
Whatever the glitch was that prevented any PRs from the June period on, when the Pilot Plant was supposed to be "cutting" RVC and constructing batteries and Kung Long was pressing-on with it's evaluations, has been completely held under wraps...
...........................except the Smart Money that found out; which did some pretty heavy selling to bring the stock down from the 16s to the 7s during July....................
...................................................
...........and many of us didn't sell in the teens because "news" was just around the corner.
In fact, I was buying back at .12, .11, and .10............
thinking I had picked the bottom. Ha.
Oh ya,.........as seasoned traders we're supposed to understand this all.
Well, I do.
But, uh............now I'm concerned about fundamentals......
and survivability.............not just some trading ranges.
Oh, Monday, Tues, or Weds. Uh huh.
Hasher, I think I've taken your spot. Ha.
Yeh, ANOTHER week of absolutely NOTHING. No words.
Wed morn. Oh well. Typical. eom
dhf: Good analysis. We need to get going. eom
gamood: Interesting. Govt Regs our Plant problem?
I just realized from your article statement about pollution control during "lead-acid" battery production, that THAT may be our Pilot Plant delay.
The Feds may be requiring "scrubber" equipment or some other pollutant capture controls on PTI's plant.
If so, hopefully the requirements are not too expensive or difficult to install.
Also, IF SO, it would have been nice for management to inform shareholders of the reasons for the plant production problems.
This Guineng name sounds familiar. I wonder if LB ever talked to them in the past..............when Mr Raintree, or whomever, was "manning" our China "office" . Ha!
TOO LATE NOW............apparently.
mlf: My point exactly: C'mon.
Actually, there is no E in the PE. No "earnings".
The revenue was 75g's but the Net was (-$349k)?
And we paid 1.25 million?
As stated: "C'mon"
Those who contend Mr Connolly bailed Sentry, and himself, out by arranging our "merger" .........................
Comments on the Sentry Power 05 filing?
It looks like an "average" of 10-11 systems were sold ($75K total sales/ $7,000 per) for the year.
Hmm.
Secretary: Remember the $6k/mo Connolly contract?
If we review the most "recent" agreement with Corporate Strategies for office space, phone service, etc, etc, etc.....
..........I think we'll find "secretarial/receptionist services" in there also.
There is NO valid excuse for not posting SOMETHING about the status of the company and some sort of blather about the "shareholders" meeting...............not too mention what the latest lack of information is over. We can understand business obstacles and planned solutions........IF WE'RE INFORMED!!!
Trainz: I did the very same thing. Ugh. eom
Since 1992? They're doing worse than us! Ha. eom
Gulf: You might be right.
When the boyz realized no one was showing up, they cancelled the Ballroom at the Ritz and signed the papers to get director Hopman on board back at the office.
They then agreed: "Well, there's no GOOD news to release, so maybe we can just keep quiet and "they" won't know the difference."
"Maybe we can wait until July of 07 when MvnAlmn facetiously posted we would have news to ACTUALLY say something".
"Yeh, that's what we'll do.........wait til 07 to announce the several Hundred million addition shares issued to start "research" on PipeLink."
Not funny, huh?
Bill O
Lithium batteries may have caused aircraft fire.
The NTSB thinks a load of lithium type batteries may have caused the UPS DC-8 fire that destroyed the aircraft after an emergency landing in Philadelphia last month.
I can imagine the press after one of these lithium battery packs
ignites a Hybrid up with a load of children on board or some-such.
So.........................I wonder how we're progressing with our little lead acid "saviour"?
We can't whip those competitors UNLESS WE GET THE BATTERY MADE!
There are several here who own Million--plus, however,
If you are thinking we could generate some issue or action we wanted the company to act on.................
..................and BJ and especially LB/Cornell don't like it.......................................
We'd get buried by their collective voting power of HUNDREDS of Millions of shares.
Over.
It would be tough.
We tried to list our respective shares on this site years ago and we probably got most posters listed.
There are obviously many outside holders now but I would estimate there are not more than 10-15 million shares held by individuals not made public; like employees/directors etc.
NOT enough to effect ANY voting issue when compared to BJ, Lee Balak, and the Cornell boys.
We're up to 9.5? Huh? What? Oh. Zzzzzzzzz.
Yeh, are we Halted.......or just Dead? eom
imo PipeWeld will be next carrot/pump.
If something is really wrong with the Pilot Plant ops or K Long has collapsed, then the only thing left to bring out of the bag is....................PipeWeld.
Our new Director has a background in the oil patch and his "contacts" or who-knows-what will be PRd about to cover the possible failure of the battery effort.
"That's my story and I'm sticking to it"..................
unless BJ can tell us what the REAL story is on the company.
This lack of information on what HASN'T happened irks me no end.
Bill O>
Hash: I agree. Let's get on with the next P&D. eom
Trainz: Ya, I think we were fillin squares. Ha! eom
imo Corporate Strategies forced Sentry on us.
When one reads the SEC filing for acquiring Sentry, you'll see Sentry owed $200 some thousand to CSF (Corporate Strategies Funding) or some-such name WHICH PTI took over as a Debt.....
to be paid with SHARES to Connolly.
Connolly also got a FEE for putting the "deal" together.
So Connolly had funded Sentry a long time ago or was continually funding Sentry( as we now are) and decided to have PTI bail him out.............and Sentry.
jmo.............................but...............
Sentry seems more of a burden than an asset right now.
The market is saying the same thing.
NO news. I wonder who attended this "meeting".
I just did a Google on a variety of PWTC wordage and no hits.
No messages from anyone on the Net?
Maybe PTI just "filled a square". We simply kept the SEC at bay by just having the meeting, hired a Director, and shuffled some papers.
BJ had better start pulling some PR rabbits out of the hat about
where this company is headed.........the market is already stating it.
Maybe......there is no news; good or bad. eom
I wonder how many Real shareholders at meeting.
REAL: As in: Paid for shares with their own money at retail.
Last week: Whistling in the dark. Now: DEAD silence.
I hear whistling........and it's getting dark. eom
750 Million shares are Authorized..............
from one of LB's acts 3-4 years ago.
That number has not been modified.........only the "Issued" numbers...............which is what really matters.
The Share issue approval is already done.
That's what the 176 million share lien by Cornell is all about.
Remember, Cornell technically extended a line of credit for 5 million. PTI has basically drawn on 1.4 million of that......
so.........if PTI needs more money............mgt just "sells"
more shares to Cornell...............and the share wind up on the market over time, over time, over time, endlessly.
So Trainz, you are probably correct. THAT is what the market is smelling: More delays of some type. More dilution.
No revenue.
Prove me wrong BJ. PLEASE.
I say post #13551 probably still applies. eom
Uh..........maybe Tuesday? Ya. eom