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Mine was after 4pm and said the same.
As of this email, our records indicate 223,027,623 common issued and outstanding shares.
I'd say this proves one thing, the records are out of sync by a day because the number is exactly the same as yesterday. My guess would be that there was no dilution yesterday and today's action has not hit yet.
I think you have this the wrong way around. Today is unusual for sure but the usual suspects are holding this down at 0.065 for now to cover. It's not often you see ARCA and VNDM on the bid. Meanwhile ARCA and ASCM are on the ask holding it back. 6.5c is not a breaking point to pullback, it's getting close to breakout once they have covered or the bulls take over.
More like covering, see that he on the bid as well as the ask?
You can't assume anything right now, it has been trading differently for a few days now and we have a new CFO now. He will no doubt be negotiating the debt.
Each day is important right now but considering the news of a new CFO today, I would say today is key. It will show whether he is in control or not
$ECIG nice news! Great talent added to the management team. Most important part is the CFO considering the reason we are down at 5c is because of financial mismanagement. Big step in the right direction imo
So are you re-alerting now?
True but when they have been diluting, they did give you clues on when the shorting would hit.
Proof? Links? Anything?
I'll be back in a moment as Penny Dream or some other nonsense and be claiming I am best buddies with the CEO and he told me the stock is going to $10 tomorrow morning.
These people, it's like they don't realize that everything is in your history here. I wonder who is the real handle behind it.
Shorting becomes too dangerous and low return at this point. I'm hoping this continues to clean up over the next few days and we keep seeing 10-20% increases.
Welcome to iHUB with your first two posts this evening after signing up with a free account at 8:24pm after the day closed both referencing an RS that is not registered or filed anywhere.
Either way, I think we agree that this should continue to rise. Like I said, I actually prefer slower, steadier increases anyway because that will maintain. If we get a sudden spike, flippers will jump on it and it will once again become a shorting stock as well which means we'll get suppressed down temporarily.
The strongest, largest shorting was no doubt in collusion with the dilution because then it is also a safe and easy buck because they know they can cover.
Let's see how the trading looks over the next few days, should be interesting (in a good way this time!)
It's old news but they are distributing the product, they even have it on their own news page - http://cinoltd.com/news/
I always wonder about situations like this because there is invariably not a massive spike as the shorting is covered. I would imagine that the shorting is coordinated with the dilution in such a way as they are covered immediately as the dilution stops and no effect happens.
This doesn't mean we can't start to rise back up though. With no dilution and with the shorting not being profitable anymore, we should see healthy slow increases. Today is a good example of the kind of behavior we could expect to see with typical flipping happening along the way and green days most of the way.
It should naturally start to recover to where it should be according to market cap and we all know that is way higher regardless of the dilution.
I for one will be happy with slow increases because they will maintain and new bases will form along the way stopping this from being forced back down again. The 70 mill left will easily support further conversions if they let it get back to where it should be and as others have stated, there is definitely no need for an RS and maybe no need for an AS increase.
Well something has definitely changed. Either they are waiting on more shares / it has stopped altogether or they have been told to let the price return higher. Any of those 3 options is fine by me, I'll just keep alert on this one until we are much, much higher.
Now you know it would be unethical to be posting on here if I was on the management team, are you trying to catch people out :)
You are more than welcome though to check my last 3 addresses, who bought the properties, how they paid for them, who they sold them to what funding they used. I have to warn you that one of them is an alien spaceship, one is Area 51 and the other is a grassy knoll in Dallas though. I don't think any of them were transferred to a Limited Company though.
Todays OS Update: As of this email, our records indicate 223,027,623 common issued and outstanding shares.
Your wish is my command:
As of this email, our records indicate 223,027,623 common issued and outstanding shares.
Are you still going on about his house sale? I sold mine 4 years ago and moved, do you want to investigate that too?? lol
I know. Im in! Lets see what happens
What is the difference between virtual abd physical shelves these days and who cares? They're being sold by them
He watches stocks for at least 6 months waiting for a day when it is going to go up 50%. All without trading or investing.
I don't know, it's crazy talk :)
In OWOO and watching SFOR. Will buy 2s if they fall further.
Can we stay on topic on here please? We've gone way off the tracks. It's supposed be discussional about ECIG and it's trading
Good luck with that! Hope all goes well. I'm not sweating the current action either. It will either go down to low 4s and the momentum will pick up again or it will slowly rise imo. The manipulation was not as bad today, they pushed it down but not with a hammer like before
Likewise. I think everyone is waiting for a larger swing than we got today to jump back in. Or for ARCA to back off.
So, is everyone done with ECIG? People are either AWOL or discussing other tickers
Makes sense. That is what they told me though. Not "as per our records" or some other rhetoric that implied that the amount was out-of-date, they said it was current as of that time/date.
They're not. They confirmed to me that they were up-to-date.
Either that or they know something is coming and are waiting. CDEL may have moved up with a fake bid and be accumulating higher. If so, that is a good sign.
That is logical. Either they decide to sell lower and ARCA comes down and the bid get filled very quickly or the buyers move up and take it over 5 again. Not a very exciting day regardless.
Not really sure which way this goes from here. No strong shorting or selling but no buying support either. Bid just decreased substantially at 0.045.
Too much manipulation going on to see clearly what will happen.
Shorting followed by dilution yet again. This is not accumulation at lower levels as some people are claiming but some retail here will definitely take advantage of the inevitable dip coming soon. My guess would be low 4s but we'll see.
It doesn't really matter anyway, it's all a case of either trading the dips and highs here or waiting it out until we get solid news and it breaks the shorting game. Or we max the 300 mill of course. That won't happen for another couple of weeks though looking at the volume vs dilution levels recently.
That was my point about the charts posted on here. They become a self-fulfilling prophecy because the shorters are using them and creating panic selling and stop loss sells
You can call it an opinion but it's basically a misunderstanding of how these filings work before you get as far as opinion or interpretation.
What he's trying to tell you is that you've misread the filing and he is correct.
It's one of the most ridiculous and transparent scam companies I have had the misfortune to see here on the OTC. He's wasted shareholder money over and over again with a stupid plan to extract oil in such a way that it costs more than the actual oil.
All the while taking a massive salary and probably siphoning money off in many other ways.
Personally I think people use them or the same techniques to work out when to suppress a stock and work out where it might break. I.e. actually more use to MMs and shorters