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I wouldn't be so hasty to rationalize the optimism of others as dishonesty. They put their faith and money into a stock, thereby giving weight to their stance. As opposed to those who talk an "honest" or "realistic" game to justify their fear that they will miss that boat at some arbitrary price they have envisioned or to insure that the cynical approach they have chosen doesn't lead to humiliation or having to cover at drastically higher prices. Sometimes all of the so-called "truth" is just a grudge against a company or even a single shareholder. There is a lot of BS on these boards, but one thing holds true...Shareholders and companies have a right to project a positive image in the conduction of their business. Otherwise plumbers would be compelled to put the number of rusted pipes they have blown out on the sides of their trucks.
PUMP THIS SUCKA!
The PRPM guys always get right back to me. Maybe try them. Pres. and CEO.
Maybe silence will be golden. Some contend that the 200 DMA crossing the 50 DMA is a fantastic signal. We are close to that and buying pressure would fix it, but I am not 100 percent sold on the theory. Still if enough traders believe it....
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NEWS? How about the NEGS share distribution being like a 30+% dividend on this stock? It's a no brainer. Get it cheap while you can.
Personally, I find lots of new names a red flag, but more importantly, what were the old companies up to and who was suing them? Takes a lot of work to dig those old facts up and once you find them everybody is usually emotionally attached anyway. If they are doing good, let them try to make a business. When you quit changing it is time to die, with people and corporations.
I see plenty of stocks with 200 DMA moving below 50 DMA and they just lay dead. That is a BS indicator and a chart fixture that occurs in a set of circumstances that has no bearing on the potential for a run.
I find that calling attention to sell vs. bids is usually a better indication of the sentiment of the poster. Typically, a short stance is denoted by attention to that detail. We all know that buying pressure on good volume tends to raise the price, whereas on a slow day the MMs can tic it down on any transaction at all. The sells vs. bids argument is a favorite tool of short traders but so are many forms of disinformation, fear and insinuation of inside information.
Too bad about the split. News today and a chart that looks so ready to run. If it does, the peak will look like a knife blade...in and out fast.
I put zero weight on buys vs. sells. It's a personal choice, like using a coupon for a pizza, and it's all computers doing it half the time anyway. It's wack that that the market operates that way, but that is the paradox of online trading. In the old days, the individual floor trader's personality came into play as most trading was done with market orders. Now we get to exercise more apparent control but at an instant cost or benefit. It all evens out and it is the closing price that matters.
Look down the road a couple of years at a commercial real estate revival. The fact that this does as well as it does now, that they are growing in this totally screwed up mess we are in, means this will be a Bad MF when things turn around. These little stops starts, burps, and farts mean nothing.
Just noticed a sticky I had made to myself to buy this at .008. WTF happened?
Valiant efforts, guys. You probably ameliorated the potential loss today by about 2 or 3 percent. I don't think the run was big enough to generate that much special interest by the MMs. We are getting minor defections and the market has digested the news. Now it slowly settles to the base. It actually did pretty well today, considering. A bit of support is being exhibited at .018...a lot more, of course, at .013. New loyal longs should make it settle somewhere in the middle of that range. Good Luck.
Just ignore this selloff. This is the kind of stock that you can't micro-manage. It's all good.
Translation:
I'm out and will be off the board for a while looking for another play. Keep the love, I will be back in for the next run.
That is would be insidious. I can even see them putting guys on these boards to bash the stock by pointing out their own toxic financing activities to generate lower PPS and get more shares. Eric has basically addressed the problem by locking the shares so we are covered publicly, but guys like you described would likely keep coming if they saw a payday. I see people so determined to get a tiny fraction of a penny lower price that they dedicate months to the effort, so little surprises me.
They can serve a very useful purpose or do great harm. I laid it out after closing Friday, with a description of the psychology surrounding pumps. With the exception that MAYBE the PR wasn't as fluffy about the wind turbines as it initially appeared, and the subsequent "clarification" PR that was issued in regards to the solar training, I will stand by my post.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=55343110
Note, particularly, the portion referring to heightened expectations and trapped longs. When those things occur, you need to take profits, because we all pay for them in the long run.
Why do they peeve me? Because, I see a nice investment with excellent potential, like this one, played with and disrupted and if they do it enough, nobody will trade it, just flatline and dwindle it. I am in other good investments that are "falling short of expectations" because of such games and instead of moving up and down with the market, like normal stocks, they just lay there, dead money. They can have product, revenue, money in the bank, locked shares, news, and transparency but once everybody expects pumps, that is what it takes to move them.
They left Friday afternoon when that long red bar appeared. It got really quiet then and they "stepped out" for a minute. That is how pumps work, ridiculing the profit takers while they slip out the back.
When I search the web for STHG, I go to boards central or practically any other stock site and our comments pop right up in the sidebars referring to this stock. If there are a short traders or those seeking lower prices, it is obvious. It is leaving a bad taste in the mouth of anybody who may be doing DD on this stock. The company has done nothing wrong. We know what the low volume is due to.
It's not moving now because everybody can see how close it is to .0017. Cross that line and it is bye bye dubs, hello trips.
LOL, Maybe if they quit calling us "Steadfast Holdings Group" out there on the web, people could find us easier.
Lots of eyes on us, primed and ready to roll. Could see news any time now.
Higher, lower, doesn't matter. I just want a safe entry point. You either use charts or you don't, and combined with the well established patterns of post-run behaviors of most stocks in similar circumstances, this could easily pull back to the .0135 level of just prior to the pump. Often, the realization of that destination, causes an even lower dip than the previous base, for just an instant, before triggering a reversal. The chart denotes sentiment and people behave in a somewhat predictable manner in these things. Other influences could come into play...we shall see. I like a healthy heartbeat more than price A or price B. Daytrading or flipping within the unfolding trend is entirely possible and acceptable and that too is healthy. Don't think of it as a bleed but as a part of the inherent biometrics in the life of the stock.
There is nothing weak about saving profits. It flirted with disaster today. If it breaks down to .0017 and we will see some real volatility. That last minute paint job may have been what it took to save this from a very sad morning tomorrow. It looks like it got the attention of some MMs this week. Hope we have lots of dry powder here. We are going to need it badly.
They might be. That play they were on last week has bearish signals all over it. Hammers and dojis all over this thing. The TA boys should be licking their lips about now. When it is ready like this, I expect a gap any morning now. They could jump in and really surprise the MMs and if that happens, this thing will recoil like Grandpa's Punt Gun.
If you subtract the fat thumb event and the other artificial stuff, you can see the dark cloud cover yesterday and the harami developing today. If the run is accepted as a temporary trend relative to where it was, it is not really that great a chart. Setting my bids at a generous .015. I can ride out the subsequent dumps that carry it any lower than that.
LOL, Almost missed it. Like I said, you might just get a micro-pop off of this PR. Don't worry, it has done this before on news. The next time it will probably really take off. People are probably still a bit raw from all that dumpage yesterday.
I don't even think that everything he says is false. Putting a negative spin on every event in the last two years could be applied to stocks all the way up through the NYSE. Strategic flexibility and penetration of promising sectors is what this company does and they get it done not just sit and issue PRs about it. Back seat CEOs are a dime a dozen in all companies. Dealing with what we have here and now is my concern, not old grudges. This outfit is concerned with giving us bang for our buck. He calls that hot air, and that is his opinion. The money that he and his fellow former investors put in went into building the connections and expertise that we are relying on now to grow this company. Saying that we should abandon all of that is tantamount to me saying that you and I should forget what we know about the market and take up candle making because things have not gone well the last two years. JMHO
We don't hate Wolfie. That would be like hating the Special Olympics. We cleared all of the NES stuff up a month ago. Wolfie is steamed about losing Propalms ltd, probably because he works there. It is still kinda in the family, he just doesn't get that. I will take any shares they want to give me. NEGS will be back up as soon as they land some more bids for green projects.
Wow, that was lost in translation! Shorts should stick to Iblis and Djinn to grant their wishes. I suspect shorts possess a special relationship with them.
Three years, actually, and it can take over a year to issue them. 9 months to get the last annual out and that is part of his bid to become reporting. No filings. Bleh. Don't really know much about the stock in this incarnation. Was there a class action suit filed against Specialized Home Medical for fraud?
Good news has always followed these short delays. I expect that we will be hearing a lot more about our new acquisition any day now. I like the way they say that news or events will come on a certain day and they surprise with even better intermediate announcements. Great time to add. IMO
I think it is dropping because people fear the audit. It had a dead cat bounce, now there will be some protracted selling off. Could hit trips again without more hype.
Probably more true than you can imagine. We are supporting some lazy bastards, it seems. One guy here, was posting about some public domain geolocation modules that would supposedly shoehorn nicely into this app. The flavor, added by the social network site, real estate in Brazil and whatever he was planning for Asian markets is what Degama brings to the table. The old guy may just be indulging his kid's or his sister's kid's dream or hobby. We shall see. .0004 looks normal today. I just hope those adding here don't see 3s. Very dangerous at this level.
The interest is still here, the flipping runs have just made us subjects of the paradigm that the only way this moves is in bursts. When we just start going about our business and letting this thing breath, the shorts will lose interest and investors will come and go like normal and a heartbeat will begin to manifest itself. The flatline is pure stubborness on the parts of the MMs and investors who are holding strong. Over the long run, each person who gets tired and moves on, gives the MMs a little edge. Camping out on the board for weeks on end, preaching that effect up as some kind of problem with the stock, doesn't help either. A star who makes some B Movies can still land a juicy part in a blockbuster. Just give him time.
Profit takers are just biding their time for a healthy dip. As I said, the danger here is getting expectations too high in the wake of a promoted run. The company is fine, just doing day to day business as always. May take a while to get back the heartbeat we had before the run. Never go all in on a run, always leave some dry powder for the dips.
Yup, a lotta shares showed up today. Don't see 150 million shares materialize in 30 seconds like that often. In fact, this thing is practically historic. LMAO It is some of the most shameless action that I have ever seen. I just can't feature the company waiting till this level to dump. Somebody somewhere is really messed up in the head. I am truly amazed that this thing could even have a market cap of 60k, but in two blocks that went down. "Freakish" is the only word for it.
I've been laughing through tears at this thing since it plunged from .008+. He has been selling PRs since before then. This is one stock that doesn't need to respond to bashing, it does it all on it's own. I like to give the ones who are stuck a chance to exit gracefully on their own terms. It still runs on news, though. Pure play here. It will probably run again, but it is very dangerous for novices at this level. Big risk, possibly a big gain. You could see half your money come and go and come again in the next few days. A real hair puller.
He says he has 5 employees and I assume at least one is a developer. He might totally surprise us and release an app one of these days.
It fluttered around this level for 2 or 3 days before the last PR sent it racing. Don't freak out, though, if it doesn't because the PR before last generated next to no action. It's tricky that way.
If you had any shares that you owned, (noting your need to comment on this stock), you would have undoubtedly have told the people at STHG that, rather than just us. At what level do you HOPE to buy in?
Sure it does, because I am usually right. It is trading here because people think that the stock is bad because it hasn't been pumped lately. People are full of crap. They pull out and follow the pumps but in the long run, this company will be around longer than many who are just giving into the hype. Those stocks will be where this one is after the pumpers leave and if they are not as strong as STHG they will disappear.