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.001 seems to be a good place to be flipping from for now. Once the huge debt is settled this company might have a real chance... But if it can't get out from under the thumb of the brothers it has no chance...
I will say this though about liable and not that he needs my post, but look through all of the posts...
When it was at dimes he shouted be careful, nickels he shouted be careful, pennies he shouted be careful, and so on all the way to here...
I for one called him a basher, but he's not really bashing as much as he is reporting how toxic this company really is right now...
And haha no I'm not a basher, I got in at .0065 and flipped for some profit and left some to ride, was able to average down in the .003 range and then got out for good with a slight slight profit edge again and am now waiting for the bottom to form...
What makes me nervous is that this bottom could form and then a rinse and repeat method gets used...
Liable fair question to you...
If there was no giant debt looming overhead, is this a company you would roll the dice on?
Another thought...
For those that don't see a connection between qedn (software) proremote (controller devices) and a theatre company (movies)...
What if the remote went into movie theaters... Imagine a remote that could control every playlist, lighting, sound, temp of the room where the audience sits, everything...
A software company designing with a product company to make a usable device for the movie industry... Realistic maybe, maybe not, but to say one can't make a correlation to me seems incorrect
IMO
Just a "What if"...
What if Pro remote gave QEDN money...
We keep talking about dilution or a reverse split or a loan...
What if Proremote simply said "you are a shell we want to go public. Here is X number of dollars." or "we are gonna buy X number of shares from you"
Proremote still gets a steal of a deal for going public through a shell company and save a ton of Fees and costs and QEDN now "all of a sudden" has funds...
Just a thought...
IMO
Both of my accounts show the normal balance... But, I'd love it if the FINAL news was coming out
Staying realistic:
The only PR that is going to actually make this thing uptick is updated and good looking financials, an unexpected reverse merger and updated, good looking share structure, or a ridiculous contract.
Anything else and IMO we will just hang out here in 3/4, 4/5 land for a while longer until one of those types of PRs is released.
I'd prefer the waiting was over, but I'm fine waiting and still not a single share has been shook from my hands.
GLTA
PS - Just curious... I haven't read a post from coyote or his skull and crossbones secret society. YOU GUYS STILL AROUND?? (echo, echo, echo)
Comforting to still see many of the familiar posters are still around... Here is my next question of concern:
When this spikes to .0007 or 8 are you all gone on the first chance to dump due to frustration/small profit and move on. Or are we all truly long for 1/2 penny to a penny?
I really think if posters are telling the truth we account for almost 1/4 to 1/2 a billion shares on this board. Sorry goodforyou, but I didn't count you.
When we break that down we really do control some, not all, but some of the destiny of this stock...
I guess who is really going to hold this for the potential "huge" long term speculation and who is really just going to take the quick double up at .001?
So after the days news and retracement, did we lose any longs?
Haven't heard from coyote otherwise are we all accounted for?
Good post.
Another thing I have always considered is the large o/s. Realistically your looking at a company that right now could not maintain a PPS spike "to the moon", yet.
Think about it from this stand point. We spike out of control to .005. Everyone is excited. Talk about basher heaven... "b" rated actors in an undeground movie company and a remote with 1 possibly 2 contracts valuing approximately 20,000. For the sake of argument lets say the over nets 5,000,000 for a grand total of 5,020,000. (we haven't even put in other liabilities)
Divide that by the o/s, gives you a pps of .001
The stock would come crashing back from .005 to nothing again. Thus becoming a classic PnD.
If we continue this way we slowly climb
That's what makes me nervous as well...
I bought this on a plan to hold my freebies and sell for nothing less than a penny. I have 0 intention of trading any ANY ANY of my shares until a penny is hit. I have already cashed out my original investment plus locked in a small profit so nothing will remove these shares from my hands except a penny.
I am hesistant that people are going to see .001 or .0015 and just dump their multiple multiple millions of shares and snuff out the potential roaring fire this stock could create.
Its been walked down to trips... Is a reverse split - repeat next or is it a true bottom and time to load? I haven't stopped watching this stock and I am still intrigued to jump back in at some point...
Thoughts??
Close to 8 but they are free now... Even if they weren't I still would not be worried
4x4 4x5
Crashed??
I wouldn't really call .0006 to .0005 a crash...
I'd also appreciate it if you didn't blanket all of us "longs" as "blind and stubborn".
Up-to-date financials, a potential merger and another potential aquistion 60 days from now, a private company showing sales, and a movie group that actually has real actors people have heard of...
Is that a gold mine? Not necessarily. But, to say I'm blind or stubborn because I cashed my investment + profit months ago and now have only free shares remaining in this stock and have chosen not to sell for potential larger gains, to me seems like I would be quite the fool to get out now. (quite the wordy run on sentence huh?)
Your aggressive tone really only demonstrates an ignorance to what I perceive to be a sound investment strategy...
I guess we just see different things. I do value your opinion however, as you seem to bring out some very good DD in other's posts as they try to quite you down.
Goodforyou...
If you really bought a billion shares like you said (haha), or 100 million, or whatever your total is and like your most recent post said you really "bought it just for fun", Private message me I would love for you to donate that type of money to my program "just for fun"!
**** Back to the topic ****
I've been thinking about this latest merger pr and I can't help but to conclude...
Would it not have made more sense to finish the merger, have the pps move on the excitement of the finalized first merger, than release another pr disclosing this 2nd merger. Would that order not have caused the PPS to climb even higher?
Why release the PR first and then finalize the first merger? It just seems odd or a strange business strategy... I don't do public relations in my day to day for businesses so I really don't know what the best strategy is, I just think this seems "different".
I'm still long with shares and have ridden the waves thus far. Not throwing in the towel anytime soon; I just wish that darn PR would come out now like many others...
IMO...
What are the odds that the merger does happen on Tuesday and the pps still doesn't move?
I'm still holding and plan on holding I'm just thinking out loud for every scenario...
I think I'd be alright letting mine go for a nickel as well :)
Depends on how much... I'd love enough to have an endowment for the program and never have to worry about program finances again... Probably not going that high ... yet ... So maybe just fund a year and see what happens...
I haven't traded pinks very long, but in my short time I have seen pumpers and bashers, zealots and fakes, outrageous claims of success and failure. I've seen products with nothing move on air and products with something reverse split to nothing. The SEC going after paper companies and crooked CEO's making millions.
But this is the first time I have been in a stock that now has prophets, and multiple ones at that.
Haha... I guess wow is the only thing I can really say
The middle of 31 is 15.5. Deviate by 33% gives you +-5.15. Quick math is 10.35-20.65. With rounding the middle of the month is approximately January 10-21.
No need to panic if things don't merge by the 15th.
Just my opinion...
Thanks! Ha I guess that really wasn't my intention of the post but Im going to hold you to it! :)
If I'm lucky enough to win this "battle" as well I will be contributing to it as well!
GLTA
Wow... good find! Its amazing what info you can find on the internet and what becomes deemed as valuable years later!
Take this for what it is worth to each of you...
I started and currently run a non-profit that works with at risk kids in a major city. Basically we trade athletic for acadmeics and character. You stay out of trouble, you get good grades, we give you a basketball team (aau travelling across the nation) and college exposure.
It took me 3 yrs of start up (and a ton of personal money) to build a program. I never received a dime from anyone other than fledgling candybar fundraisers and things like that. I did it from my pocket.
After three years we got our first donation for a whopping 200 dollars!
It than took two more yrs over which we had 11 tournament wins and a win percentage above 70% and we finally received our second check for $2500. Twice I should have declared bankruptcy because I was putting too much time and money into this.
Now its Year 6 and after 100 kids going to college, many being the first in their families, we are starting to see small breakouts. Is it a major contribution of $100,000? No, but eventually someone with deep pockets will be moved to help. It is however, the first year where I have my own gym and one classroom that I can dictate a daily schedule and I am not charged. That saves me almost 90 a month per kid in gym fees. There are about 25 kids currently (90*25*12 = $27000). Its not money coming in, but it's overhead saved. Someday I hope to have this be my career but right now i work two jobs and this is simply my career hobby!
Bashers bashed my program all the time, but I have seen great returns with very very limited resources and I know what I have done with nothing and can only imagine what could be accomplished if major funding was received.
I guess the point in my telling this is maybe QEDN could be the same way. The passion of 1 person who has networked good and bad over 4 yrs now beginning to see hardwork paying off! I'm glad this 10,000 dollar joke happened recently and not 3 yrs ago. Maybe now the fruits of his labor are being seen.
Or maybe its a flop, but I like what I have seen so far.
Sorry for the length of this. I just wanted to make the struggles of a business person a little more real. Sometimes it takes longer than over night to have a major breakthrough
It was labeled "year of the e-reader" on yahoo's top stories...
Just another confirmation that this year could be a huge market for tablets!!
yahoo
Could someone correct me if I am way off with this math...
If the company is valued at $5 000 000, than each share has a value of .001 ($5 000 000 / 5 000 000 000)
If the comapny is valued at 10 000 000, than each share has a vlue of .002 ($10 000 000 / 5 000 000 000)
So post merger this has a value $.001 - $.002 ???
Not trying to be a wet blanket, but i'm just curious as to if I am not doing this correctly.
Don't get me wrong I'm fine with a 5 to 10 bagger for me.
Based on what?
MTE sorry I didn't wanna give him a mark for responses so I responded to yours...
HA! I was willing to entertain with an open mind all thoughts and sides...
Where is the substance to your claim... I couldn't find any???
Also I didn't sell my home to invest in this company. I had money I was willing to part with. A few fancy dinners, a cruise, a 2 week vacation... All were options for me to "waste" my money. I chose to invest in a crappy stock and see what happens...
IMO... Guess what I found in this crappy stock??? Something shiny!!! Only time will tell if that shiny is precious metal or fools gold
Or another analogy... I bought this crappy ugly picture for 5 bucks... It has some signature on it, but I can't pronounce the name. Maybe you could help me... "Van Gogh". I think it's pronounced Van Gog-ha Whoever that guy is sux his paintings are all blurry. Haha
I will entertain you joe...
In your opinion what do you think the value of the two companies will be after they merge into 1? You do think a merger is going to happen? I made the assumption you do. Please correct me if I am wrong...
.001 - .0012 (LOW, I see this as conservative and probably nice and healthy. 1 uptick a day)
.0012 - .0015 (MEDIUM, with 2 days of thin asks and momo I think we could settle into this range)
.0015 - .0018 (HIGH, I just don't know if it really can get legs to get there with the amount of flipping and momo dumps that IMO will occcur)
Again just my opinion based off of NOTHING. Just my own opinion
I guess most of us really are long!!! There really isn't a need to post about anything right now if your planning on selling post-merger or late 1Q... IMO
Ok let me preface this with I HAVE 0 INTENTIONS OF SELLING FOR A WHILE!!!!
With that being said I do not want to be the one that kills momo buy selling all of my shares at once when it hits my price. How big of a deal would it be for someone to sell a giant block of say...
15 million?
30 million?
45 million?
60 million?
or are there no worries???
Dumb question... Sorry
I'd prefer .0002 :) but green is always better than red!
I see a lot of red 6's... I don't mind at all if every .0002 we consolidate and move up and then consolidate and move up... Sounds like a great a way to get to the merger!!! IMO
5@5 2@6 now
Fozy...
Yd those last two post get deleted??
they were on topic and not negative??
u can PM me but I can't respond back
I have purchase dates ranging from the 12th of november through the 15th of december totalling around 6.3 million for QEDN and today they are all showing todays date as my purchase date.
All of my purchases are now represented in one line instead of their own individual purchase date line. (and yes it is tabbed so I can see each one individually :) haha)
Hope that helps to clarify... I know 6.3 isn't a lot, but you can rest assured I'm not going anywhere anytime soon!
Great maybe they can take that $200,000 and pay Ribo-flavin off a little and start to get the train out of the blocks. I'd love to jump back in, but I'm not big enough to flip daily and I still don't feel comfortable in the search for a bottom.
GLTA I hopefully will be back shortly...
I just got off the phone with etrade about my account consolidating as well..
What I was told was they were looking into what had occurred and had already fielded calls. I didnt really believe his tone so I asked for a higher voice on the totem poll. I asked the next guy what happened and he said at this time we are not discussing as to why this occurred, but we are looking to correct the problem...
E-trade has never been short with me ever in the history of my calls with them EVER. I have thoroughly enjoyed my etrade experience. I take this as an odd moment...
So either Etrade has mad a major glitch in their new rollout of their new etrade pro... OR
***SPECULATION***
They are consolidating prematurely, because they know something we don't about merger news, all trades to make name change and rollover easier for post-merger.
I'd like it to be the second one!!
DUMB QUESTION ALERT!!!
When the stock merges and QEDN goes away... Will my holdings simply change in my portfolio to its new name?
Hhmmm interesting...
That etrade sale I thought was mine.
When there was only 1 left at .05 I moved my ask to .06 and the etmm went as well. I assumed it was mine so I move it to .07. I figured what the hell if it hits I am out with some profit and if it does not there is always tomorrow. The etmm moved to .07, I was convinced it was my etrade ask... Someone slapped the ask but I got nothing...
Now I am more confused than ever... hold my position longer or just get out @ .055?????