There are still traders out there...it'll be a race to the finish line if those traders don't show up though....

Sorry, a little rattled that now you want to hear me out....months ago you and a few others didn't want to listen to anything I had to say....

All who are in this are most likely in deep red....My suggestion is to sell what you can now and try to salvage what you can...This stock cannot support itself without reason...The CEO is questionable...the business plan has not worked thus far...and nothing has changed or will change in the near future that will turn this business plan around...I don't want to repeat myself so please check out my old post...I explained everything here, I was sincere when I said it and it's coming more true everyday that passes...

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=51491464

You need revenue...no one in there right mind puts a business plan like this to action and actually thinks it would succeed...The whole idea from the start was to create a product that was "New", "Exciting", and could lead future investors to fall for the weak business plan...every few weeks/months...put out some encouraging news that will lead investors to think the plan is great...when simply it's not to hard to figure out that no matter how you look at it, the plan had no chance from the start...The product has always been the problem...check this old post out...this explains it...

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=51496101

If you sit down and think about it, It's true...It's that simple...Pretend you did not have a dime in this company, and i'm sure you would agree....the problem is, most here do own this stock and refuse to look at it from a real customers point of view...it's always been about the customers...if you can't sell product in stores, then your company will never create revenue, meaning they will milk shareholders to death until either you go BK or R/S...ZVTK could get a $1mil order from Walmart tomorrow...but what would that do for you? You still have to sell the product in those Walmart stores...and if you don't sell, you end up on the clearance rack, causing more losses for the company, and eventually, it's shareholders....I encourage you all to think like a customer...however, most are scared they made a bad investment here and can't afford to do that....sad to say....you did make a bad move...never to late to correct that mistake until it hits .0001...time will tell...

Are you asking me for MY opinion now or was that a general question to the board?

Of course you CAN....question is...Will you?

don't be the one holding down in the .0002's/.0003's....

You have to realize that YOUR "6 months to a year" was hers back in mid 2008 early 2009....She's been waiting a lot longer than most...IMO, this still does not give reason for whats being posted here lately...We are still in good shape here...just have not had the right news that's gonna move the pps...it will come...just calm the hell down everybody...

Think about what happens if deal ISN'T announced within 30 days???... .0001?

It's a joke because you are at trip 0's...

I'll be sure to come back this Fall to revisit this quote again....Hope your having fun here...3 zero's are better than 2!!!....wait a minute...

Thanks for the clarification...we all get rattled at times...

I know how to read also....

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=52890469

I don't mind questioning as I do it all the time...but come on...there comes a point where it has to stop....JMHO...I still respect TH and her posts, but recently have been a little disappointed. No need to clown her name...I still think it's fitting...the PPS can change anyones tone without them even noticing...We all just need to look in the mirror and tell ourselves it's gonna get better...Cause honestly I feel like it will...just gonna take more time than I thought...

She knows damn well who he is as well and she could of emailed him for further clarification... low blow well deserved...

It really makes me upset that people feel they have to contact the SEC to get answers...If the PPS was still based in the .01's I don't think there would be such a calling to summon the SEC for every thing WNBD does that someone doesn't like. I'm losing money here too, but I'm not gonna shed bad light on a company i'm heavily invested in by contacting the SEC on matters I only know minimal info about.

Eric makes his mistakes...as we all do...no one is perfect...but seriously, when did it get to the point, when some feel the need to ask a third party. Why not ask the source? This is the second time this year from what I've seen so far, maybe more?

This is a mess....Asking questions blindly is just as bad as investing blindly....99.9% of the time, you end up wrong...

One last post before i'm ghost again...

I didn't know we broke 1 million yet? Can anybody other than realgood confirm this notion?

FYI, he never confirmed we were in phase 2...phase 2 would of meant we were bringing in 1mil...I'm sure you saw the first IDS earlier in the year....hell...you can check the current one and it will still prove we are in phase 1....btw...Eric said he hopes to move on to the next phase and maybe beyond in 2010 in that CC you are referring to...

Well let's just hope it doesn't take over 2 years to get those chains names...With the speed at which that "Home Improvement" store is moving, it only makes me think the others will mimic their speed after they show interest...

Did anyone else feel the awkward silence once that call ended...He said "goodnight" and all I could do was sit here stunned for about 5 minutes...Unselfishly, I wonder how he's feeling right now...I'd be sooooo mad...he kept his composure which I would of found difficult to do...To bad another supposed great event is gonna cost us...you guys wanted volume? You all may just get it in the coming days from frustrated investors...

he didn't even get his "Milk in a fishbowl" quote right....you damn right he's rattled...I would be to...this shit is so frustrating for me...imagine what it is for him...His pride and dedication to keep pushing and to keep this call going is impeccable...but sometimes you need to push that all aside and do whats best for the company and the shareholders by calling it quits....

This better not go on the Company Website...

people whistling and shit....just tells me at ain't a shareholder...and if it is a shareholder...they are dumb as shit cause the outcome of this call alone could potentially lead to a sell-off tomorrow...it's either a competitor or a freakin trader...dogs barking now...my god...

I think it may have been better for Eric to end the call after the malfunction and demand a refund....then postpone the call even though it may of pissed off many....cause the bottom line is: unfortunately, this has turned into a long verbal Memo....

he was not unprepared...just a bad circumstance that he now has to live with due to trying to save a buck... unforeseen technical issues...pretty sad really...

I threw 2000 more bones into this yesterday....if I knew Eric was trying to save...I would of wired him 2g's on me....for a better call....I'm not mad at him or the company...but I can't say that i'm not pissed off in general...

Probably a competitor trying to ruin the call...oh well....

http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/WNBD/financials

i'll change that...

What's the history with this stock...Last year around this time, I remember It ran close to .20? What happened? This must be a stock worth investing in...or maybe just a good long term trade...or maybe neither...

So now you know what's in my portfolio? My losses and gains should not be your concern unless I make them your concern.



Your damn skippy I think that way...If your so interested in the people who don't know about this site, what are you doing to promote it? Why not tell all your friends every single stock you get in so they won't be at a disadvantage? Hey, if YOU chose the stock, then it's obviously worth taking the time to invest in...Everyone you know should have the equal advantage of at least knowing about it so they can form their own decisions...right?



Just cause you don't make money down in the pennies...don't compare yourself to others...whats considered "lucky" for you may be "automatic" for others...watch yourself, your treading a fine line here...

You are right, IHub is a site mostly for penny traders/investors, So "every person reading this" obviously follows pennies...So yes, if they followed the PR's and did their DD, they would know to come to here...Prior to that PR, I would agree that we may of had a slight advantage by having found this site before others. But IMO, this doesn't make this form of activity illegal or wrong in anyway; we just got lucky to have found this form of communication before everyone else. You are pretty much opening doors to say it's wrong that everyone that doesn't follow the Stock Market(in general) has a disadvantage for not knowing about this company, or any company for that matter. It's impossible for Eric to communicate with everyone individually, which is why he tried to fix this by referring everyone to this board via PR. And obviously, this isn't even good enough for some here...What do you want him to do, get a list of all shareholders to date and mail them a letter? You guys are ridiculous...If future investors don't come to this site now, it's their OWN FAULT! We have a PR telling them to COME HERE...Stop talking about useless things that have been fixed.

Furthermore, we are a Penny stock are we not? So who cares about the "General Investing Community"? They wouldn't have a clue about us because the "General Investing Community" does not follow Penny Stocks or our PR's; not because Eric is not reaching out to them. If I wanted to follow Big Board Stocks I wouldn't be following IHub...

The comments made on this board in regards to Eric communicating via email (which are forwarded to Moderators) is really getting annoying...Like seriously, this is equivalent to a Canadian living close to WB HeadQuarters...Wouldn't they have a advantage? They can tour the building and set up appointments with Management anytime they want to. Or even the fact that Dennis lives near Surefil and can monitor the traffic of the WC bottles anytime he wants(without placing trades on this knowledge)...IS this illegal, or is this a legal advantage. With almost everything in life, Someone, something, or some entity will have a advantage and/or disadvantage. Get over it.

No one told me Google was going to be as huge as it was...sadly I was at a disadvantage because I wasn't actively investing when they became what they were...In fact I wasn't even old enough to have a job(legally)...Do I blame Google? Do I blame the CEO? All I can do is blame myself for not having had the luck to have been born sooner, the knowledge, or the funds to Invest in that particular company...

NO NO no...wait...For the millions of people who don't have access to the internet or even a TV in there own homes...It should be wrong for CNBC to talk about stocks...or for any company to release "ANY Press Release" via http://www.prnewswire.com/products-services/...

I agree Ibdave....These "everyday" updates need not be PR'd...It also helped that yesterday, Eric finally got even with everyone who kept harping on the fact that these moderator updates are only viewed by a lucky few....Now that there is a official Press release telling all investors to come to these message boards(investors hub in particular, which was named in the PR), no one can make that claim anymore....Very good timing IMO due to all the negative comments about Inside info and crap that some were posting...

it sure would help if you would post facts to back your claims...

This statement proves to me that not even you know what "isn't right"...so how can you expect your loyal following to believe you know what your talking about...

Still waiting on him to reply to this post....

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=51637851

although he never will cause he know's not what he think's anymore...he's confusing himself....

credibility?....thats not a word in his vocab...

Seriously...why do you keep telling us you think he's being deceitful? We don't care...obviously you have a problem with him...so address it to the man himself.... eric@winningbrands.ca....I'm positive he will be more than willing to tell you why he does what he does and says the things that he says, the way that he says them.... although he has already explained to us many many times....Give it a break and let's change subject please...

FWIW...

Your confirmation number is HD10016363

9:05 EST...

That's the only time TH has used that word this year...FWIW

Who are those "few friends" who your trying to help out? I would like to discuss a few things with them via PM so I can learn a little better why investing here is a bad move. I'm sure they can share with me what they think, being that you taught them a few thangs...and everybody knows...your right all the time...

P.S...I would PM you, but to bad you can't return the favor...I don't like 1-way convo's...

Ok, So I just got off work and finally read through all of the posts. Keep in mind, Im'ma be very honest here. I understood everything TH was asking today, but, I too, considering her a very good friend here, thought they came across a little aggressive. But knowing her and what events have transpired over the past 2 weeks, I understand why. Details about the Store Locator being (pretty much) inaccurate; and PR's (in the past) that get released which are not specific to the fact that we are in a "trial" phase can frustrate anyone. Especially when they bring up these great points and no one engages in a intelligent debate or conversation about it.

I have always been a very opinionated person. I know many people read this board and can acknowledge that I try to be open minded about everything...good and bad... IMO, there are very few of us here that do that... TH is defiantly one of them, and I respect her opinion more-so than most here will ever understand. When she questions certain aspects of the company, she doesn't do it to "cause a stir", she genuinely wants others to accompany her in a conversation that will hopefully answer her questions or any other readers who were to afraid to ask them. But it's sad to say that it's like pulling teeth to get certain people to broaden there opinion range, "publicly", whether overly negative or overly positive. The problem is, people here really do have good/well-rounded opinions, but like she said, they try to "save face" by not discussing anything outside of their "public" opinion, on the "public" board...They either keep quiet when something that could be construed as negative arises or they try to discredit the poster who originally brought up "that" topic in the first place.

Theres one thing to Pump...another to Bash...but can we not find more levelheaded individuals? For those that never speak up when the board is in discussions with questions and concerns, then IMO, I usually label you a quiet pumper, and I usually receive your overall opinions equally to a basher...

I think TH is just as frustrated as I am with the facts that have came to light over the past few days and her overall posts today may have rub some the wrong way. But understanding her posting style, I realize she made some great points but just not in the best way. We had great news today but the tone of the board would of made you think different. Very negative atmosphere today I must say, and for what? We just got confirmation that we are in almost 400 additional stores vice a trial period...which is good.

I think TH will be back sooner than later, but I hope people can start engaging in good conversation instead of doing what they are doing now, which is either ignoring the concerns, or trying to put glitter over them....

P.S...TH, your just like me in a way, and I value your posts more than most here. I hope you don't plan on leaving me by myself in this wilderness of a board here...cause "I don't need those kind of friends".... j/k

I don't care who's selling...but I know whos gonna be buying on Wednesday...Please keep the PPS in the .008's or a lil lower until then...

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=51738453

haven't I heard that b4...

great time for news....volume is here....all eyes on WNBD today...should take advantage of this...

well this goes to show the power of IHUB...

Brace yourselves...