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first name basis
they run it with family style promotion. As far as lifestyle, if you know it's a scam, you make out well, Caribbean cruise anyone? Those who think it's real suffer week after week, month after month,year after year, of being promised things they can never deliver.
good ol' decosta : "There are probably an enormous amount of kinks to work out before this maiden voyage takes off but once the template is constructed then I would think future vend-ins by Medinah will go a lot quicker"
what a joke, once again making excuses for a whole year of saying we are done. Of course not everyone is paid in shares like decosta IMO, so it makes sense he has no feeling for the average medinah investor that actually believes what the BOD say. From the sounds of it, decosta is warning us we are nowhere near close to done "enormous amount of kinks to work out" . Forget about 2012 Baldy, mark it! 2013 will likely not bring any closure to adl, but it will bring a lot more flipping opportunities, and for that we need to thank LP and crew for keeping the scam alive. Gotta love the lying filth
LES: In lengthy discussions with mr ullander today I anticipate them publishing
significant news re alto long before the years end
HAHAHAHAA
LP is slime incarnate, same as decosta and crew. Only a bald eagle would fall for this junk
it's just a rumour
and it's coming from LP's crew. Since everyone knows LP is an habitual liar, then it's obvious why these rumours never materialize into anything but trading fodder.
it's the gold rush medinah pump
the crew is stepping up to give the latest rumours credence. But as the past year, or two or 15 have proven, medinah never deliver anything other than trading fodder. Great for the traders
smoke and mirrors from LP and crew is all it is
you know my stance, they are running a mining scam. The deal gets bigger and bigger, yet never delivered. Polo was supposed to have proven we weren't a scam, but in the end that deal never materialized. Like Grooverider said, medinah is still scam status, and has yet to prove otherwise.
PS :Shenlon is is starting to really wake up
kmn wrote:
How people forget some of the facts when peddling their rhetoric. We have the Aluvia shares as collateral. I would say that makes a big difference. Kirk
Shenlon wrote :
Collateral is only as good as what you can sell it for, which so far has been exactly $0. Does it make a distinction between the previous run-around? Yes, there's been a lot more information that has been made available as well, but I personally don't attribute much to the collateral other than a gesture until Ulander pays or management actually sells any of it (which I am highly suspect of that happening).
LP caught lying again Rick
from LP "We are very slowly getting some funds from our suit against the first firm.(partner A)"
If this was true it would be public information, where is it? No where
Rick they clearly lied
you can't go from saying " the deal would have been finalized had JJ not attended" to "woops, sorry, we thought we had our ducks lined up" . Shareholders did not walk away from the meeting purely speculating we were weeks away. They were led to believe this was the case. Knowing LP is a known liar, hard to argue we weren't lied to. As Shenlon posted:
"Management also stated, vehemently, that Amarant was not part of Group B. And that it wouldn't take 18 weeks. And that if JJ hadn't been at the SHM we'd be done already. And that we've been DONE DONE DONE.
Take it with a grain of salt. When it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...."
Paddy ask decosta how he knew this year was a bust?
where's the money paddy ROFLMAO!!
a full year of claiming we were there, that's two years in a row. Historically speaking, what comes next is not going to be good. They only need to be right once, but there is a real reason why they are never right. IS IT NEXT YEAR YET?
Hang in there TR, Baldy ,and the rest of the crew
This year will not yield any results except for the flippers who made out grand. Just ask Decosta, he'll tell you what is really going on. This is a good buy opportunity, there will be a nice little medinah run before the new year. That will be dump time, Decosta told me so.
DECOSTA IS IMPLYING THIS YEAR IS TOAST!!
someone should ask him where he gets his fierce DD,and always knows the deal is not happening. I suspect it's because he is that lying filth's left hand man. A toast to another year of carrot dangling,and failure to deliver on their word.
rigs are on the foot of mountain as per mike gold
translation : this year is off the table, there will be no pr forthcoming, they lied for another full year and got away with it. Hey Baldy, say hi to that moron fadein for me. he is da men.
mandatory weekend brainwash reading from decosta
"POSSIBLE BUSINESS MODEL WE’RE WITNESSING
After studying the various puzzle pieces out there regarding Medinah and Amarant and Amarant’s associated corporations if I had to take a guess at what’s going on I would guess that some very powerful entrepreneurs are building a team/assembly line capable of developing many mining assets in a “cookie cutter” fashion.
Mining projects typically start with an entrepreneur with a dream raising money for mineral exploration. With a little luck this may even lead to a “discovery” and with a ton of luck perhaps even production followed by reclamation. The skill sets needed to go from A to Z in this cycle are many and varied. JJQ, for example, has an impressive pipeline of mining properties in probably the geopolitically safest mining country on the planet. He knows the mining claims business in Chile inside and out and he has relationships with a wide variety of Chileans that know how to get things done. He doesn’t, however, have all of the skills or connections to go from A to Z by himself.
He vends properties into Medinah NA (MMNA) in exchange for shares. JJQ needs access to a public vehicle like MMNA and he needs to surround himself with those he can trust and are familiar with especially the U.S. markets and U.S. corporations with which he has no expertise in. MMNA does the initial triage on the properties and either partially develops the best properties until their skill sets and resources are exhausted or sells them to Amarant/Alluvia, MII, etc. Uhlander tucks these assets into which ever company of his that makes the best fit. Thus at the end of the assembly line these properties with discoveries might fantail out into different directions. Placer properties that could use the AuVert technology might go to Alluvia, for example.
Uhlander has the connections to the big bucks needed to develop these properties. He also has extraordinary business skills and access to sophisticated business people/entrepreneurs like the Arto Kuusinens of the world. Neither JJQ nor MMNA have this and thus they need to hand the baton to those that do. In mining terminology MMC serves as the “project generator” or the “PG”. The PG (Medinah Chile) usually has expertise in doing business in a mining country like Chile which Uhlander may not.
The PG’s skill sets involve procuring and maintaining promising mineral properties. A smart PG in this current mining environment negotiates for “royalty interests” (like FCIs) and not necessarily “working interests”. The key in building one of these assembly lines is to identify the skills and shortcomings of the various specialists linked together. Uhlander and his associates could work with a variety of PGs funneling in mining projects to his portion of the assembly line. The problem is that it takes a very long time to create the relationships of trust needed to integrate a new member into any one assembly line.
Once the kinks are worked out via any assembly line’s initial project i.e. ADL, a template is formed. This template involves relationships of trust between all of the various team members/specialists. Once the template has been completed and the relationships cemented then the team can go to more of a “cookie cutter” mold on subsequent mining projects. It’s the maiden voyage project that’s going to be the slow one wherein job descriptions and responsibilities need to be clearly defined and everybody needs to perform.
Prior to Medinah Chile’s invitation to try out for the team Uhlander had his own assembly line functioning in regards to Amarant, Alluvia, MII, etc. This assembly line has a lot of balls up in the air at any given time. Integrating Medinah Chile as a PG has taken a long time partly due to the enormity of the 50 square mile ADL initial project. The entrance of Arto Kuusinen as the manager of this new assembly line was perhaps the key to cranking up the assembly line for its maiden voyage with Medinah Chile in the new PG role.
As far as what is driving the Uhlander’s of the world into doing all of the work needed to design and develop these assembly lines one might think that they have a pretty good grasp of economics and how the fate of fiat currencies has already pretty much been determined."
Basically what decosta is saying is expect delays, we are on a maiden voyage. Decosta has also been cited saying that we are at the mercy of the slowest member of the consortium. My question to slime ball decosta is why does he spend so much time trying to convince us that another year of delays is normal. Has decosta forgotten we were told we were done done done? Did he forget GC said this would have been done had shareholders not insisted JJ be at the meeting? So where do all of decosta's brainwashing efforts fit in? My only answer would be that he is part of the scam. Hence why he shows no understanding that shareholders were told there was "nothing left to do". Anyone who makes excuses year after year for failure to deliver and endless delays is in on the scam. Now we know where some of those shares they print up go, keeping the scam alive via a network of "family style" promoters
good point by Grooverider
"The biggest advantage to ANY PR at this point is the "scam" stage can be removed from Medinah's status"
We'll have to see if we ever get any PR, I heard it's all a myth. One thing is for sure, as Grooverider pointed out, we are still in the scam stage. And until they deliver something else than promises,and dreams of cash dividends and short squeezes, medinah remains a scam. Polo almost proved we weren't a scam, unitl polo proved to be a scam. I've even heard slime ball decosta bring up polo, as if we had all forgotten we already had a deal for Polo. And according to LP, there is no work being done at Polo.
HANG IN THERE BALD EAGLE'S MEN
Looks can be deceiving, this year has been a great flip for medinah, and friends of medinah. I haven't sold a share either Bald Eagle ROFLMAO. Tell your investment group to not sell any shares if they still want to get your updates, and then let them know "they are on their own". I've heard everyone say this year is off the table, even Rick hasn't refuted the notion. I personally believe we are on "any second" status, not sure why people are talking about days, never mind weeks, months, years or decades. Say hi to your buddy fadein, he is du men.
when we received the polo news
everyone was saying " see, there is our proof it's not a scam" . Guess what happened to polo, it did the dodo dance. So we went back to scam status, and it still hasn't been proven it isn't a scam. Another full year in a row of carrot dangling. The lying filth made off like bandits, while the loyal longs continue to put up with abuse.
Like handshake says ""Those drills will not turn this year. SO GET OVER IT! "and "let's sit back relax enjoy the season and forget about the idiots that don't have a clue how to move drill rigs or mine a property. Their specialty is mining shares....."
Hang in there Baldeagle men, just tell your people" they are on their own" ROFLMAO
stevej didn't you know? They never deliver
With deceptively devious brainwashing promoters like decosta on board, it's no surprise they can keep the scam going for ever. Everyone is saying this year is off the table, who would have thought? They will run it one more time before the holidays to give the longs a glimmer of hope and good cheer. Just like last year, mark it!
Rick, you agree this year is off?
I don't mean for flipping, but for the big announcement everyone is waiting on. I've done my DD, so has Decosta, and even Hand agrees; this year is off the table. Curious as to what you think of this popular notion that we will not get the announcement everyone is waiting on this year.
HANG IN THERE BALDEAGLE MEN!!!!
Knowing that this year is a bust, I would say the best course of action is to tell your investment group that " they are on their own!"
DECOSTA SAYS THIS YEAR IS A BUST!!!!!!
Don't ask me how he knows, but so far his batting average is better than anyone. He is also suggesting we may still need a catalyst for the adl so I'm guessing he feels the adl deal is crapparoonie. Soon we'll find out we have worthless collateral, no worries there, Dean.
PS, I"m sure glad my mom didn't buy at 12 cents, she would be fuming at the lack of delivery on medinah's part.
more carrots
they know they won't deliver this year, so they have to come out with some carrots for the shareholders. It's funny how much kirk has insisted we would not be hearing about ldm until after adl. But obviously there is nothing going on with adl. Expect one more pump before the holidays, just to give shareholders some hope. I love this part from the update " once again, and it seems each time we extend our work into the plateau, it surprises us with new discoveries"
translation " since we never deliver, we need to keep the carrot growing"
ADL scam winding down
Just like I promised, these guys spent a whole year dangling carrots, even thought they promised it was done done, done. We all know who the lying filth are. Caribbean cruise anyone?
from Handshake "Those drills will not turn this year. SO GET OVER IT! "
and "let's sit back relax enjoy the season and forget about the idiots that don't have a clue how to move drill rigs or mine a property. Their specialty is mining shares....."
Caribbean cruise on shareholders dime
mike gold is saying we will soon hear that the drilling is at the last stages before starting. And if you know medinah "last stages" means it never gets beyond that.
I'm referring to his claims of medinah "having survived what is probably the longest abusive naked short selling attack (“bear raid”) of about 14 years in length"
Or how about him saying his friends in securities consider the bear raid on medinah to be the most heinous act they have witnessed? Where are these securities friends and their own views on medinah? If his friends in securities feel so strongly about this heinous act, where is the documentation of it? It sounds like a case study, but I don't see the study. I am talking about bear raid,and medinah, nothing else. Sorry you misinterpreted me. I've even heard kirk claim that the recent delays are related to those that want medinah to fail ROFLMAO (I wonder where he picked up that gem of an idea?). Medinah doesn't need any help to fail. Two years in a row of promising and never delivering says it all rick, never mind 14 years of saying "soon". Just ask the longs.
it's not surprising with decosta's constant brainwashing attempts
"Where does little old Medinah fit into this criminal empire? Medinah has the dubious distinction of having survived what is probably the longest abusive naked short selling attack (“bear raid”) of about 14 years in length. This “bear raid” is probably the most thoroughly studied “bear raid” by members of the anti-naked short selling legal community. "
notice how he never provides any proof of the "studies" . One things is for sure, holiday excuses will be coming fast and furious soon
are real flipping deal
what do you think the charts are for? Expect the next update to continue saying the minors are at the last stages of preparation. One they start with the "last stages" BS you know the year is toast.
another year down the drain!!!
I can't believe LP and crew managed to pull the carrot game again for a whole year!! They are pros.
two decades of dangling carrots can't be wrong
" you are on your own" bald eagle men
decosta says money may not land !!!!!!
"The proper due diligence task now is to list out the significance of the money landing (should it land) in the case of Medinah with its unique history. They’ve been trying to get that first domino to topple for an awful long time." decosta
Key words "should it land" . So much for a done deal, but thanks to decosta for his honesty in letting us know that this is medinah land, and things like money landing always go wrong.
this year is off the table
ask decosta how he knows. Many of us are waiting for the 18 mil to hit before december 31st, and a lot of mdmn investors are going to be wondering what is next, after amarant fails to pay the 18 mil. january first 2013 will not be the greatest in medinah land, but then again it never is. We still don't have the 5.4, I wonder why?
IR was the one that stated it
along with saying no drilling this year. I have a feeling IR is the only telling the truth around medinah
yes for sure, there has been evidence of insiders shorting medinah
it may not be insiders buying up the stock, but someone buys it up ,and it isn't just retail. There are a bunch of groups, brokers and scammers all involved. Sad to hear the real life stories of people they conned. I'm glad I didn't tell anyone to buy this at 12 cents, I would be pretty ashamed right now. Hang in there bald eagle men, scamming promoters are a lot of fun to watch, good thing you told everyone "they were on their own"
insiders buying back everything they dumped higher up.
The usual pattern with medinah is promise and never deliver. Retail buys it up believing the promoters are on the level with their "at any moment" BS. Insiders sell it to retail. Retail finally realizes they were lied to , sells at any cost fearing it's going even lower. Insiders buy their losses and the cycle starts again.
he also seems to be very informed on trading stocks
"Level 2 is tricky because it only shows the highest bid and lowest offer from each firm. If somebody put a bid in for 500,000 shares through E-Trade, E-Trades MM would simply jump it and bid for 5,000 shares at 6-cents. This would hide the large bid and paint the market as being weaker than it really is. It's better than not having level 2 but it's still subject to Mickey Mouse games." decosta
I wonder why he is so interested in level two? He must be trading medinah, like all the other promoters.
from exblockman : "for those of you who continue to blame everyone else while riding the stock down when the chart is stating something Stinks in Denmark, I understand your frustration. But please educate yourself in technical trading and investing. It really does help. When a stock is selling off, it's normally because someone knows something."
Yup something stinks in denmark, and someone certainly knows something. Decosta has been hinting this year is a bust,and I'm sure he's not the only one that knew this. I feel sorry for all those who fell for it once again, so far this company has proven they don;t deliver.
well said bald eagle men
"The crutch I referred to is what some folks seem to lean on when the stock is falling and they don't want to balme the BOD or the BOD's execution for the sagging price. It's always about the mean market makers instead of a lack of follow through on the mountain. "
I would love to hear decosta's response to your point of view. He'll claim there's been a 15 year bear raid on mdmn. He has even gone as far as saying his friends in securities consider the bear raid on medinah the biggest heinous act they've witnessed. I think he is a weasel, I've seen enough proof of it. Specially when he is always defending the BOD and claims they have already delivered via their accumulated properties.
bulls are back, WOOT WOOT
I'm sure LP and the crew are doing their best to get the charts back looking positive. Longs have been suffering through all the broken promises, the least they can do is give them a nice chart "to give investors a little contentment" . I can't wait for this weekends "sooth speak" from decosta, so we can understand the complexity of dealing with consortium's,and deals of this size ROFLMAO One thing is for sure, this year is off the table, someone ask decosta how he knew. It's funny how the crew claim they don't trade the stock, yet they are only around during trading hours, I wonder why?
questions and answers to LP
1- relative to the drill program on Alto. Is there a "to start by date" or
is there simply a "x amount to be completed by date" ? THE CONRTRACT
CONTAINS ALL ISSUES, A START UP DATE, A COMLETION DATE, A MINIMUM
EXPENDITURE AND THE MINIMUM METERS THAT MUST BE DRILLED.
2- are we owed the first annual installment of $18,000,000 on/or before
December 31 of this calendar year (2012)? YES
3- while on this topic, is the 5.4 part of the 18 mill., or is it in
addition to the 18 mill? NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY PAYLENTS OF
180,000,OOO PAKYABLE OVER TEN YEARS AT 18 MIL PER YEAR.
SOOO, as it stands we have a "CONRTRACT" , "A COMLETION DATE," and "180,000,OOO PAKYABLE" to medinah". And people wonder why these men never deliver.