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GAME FACTORING CORPORATION
Cl 53 Marbella
Panamá - Panamá, Panamá
Teléfonos : (507) 2132397
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Not G.A.M.E. Factory
What about the fees involved with holding PDR's in the PDR Exchange. For some of us, fees could eat up all our value within the yr or two wait.
Of course that all sounds good. We can hope that is all true. Meanwhile, we can all continue to do DD to find out just what is true.
Not what I said. Game Factoring is what my daughter said she saw.
This is not a huge building like the WTC in NYC was. It is probably 12 stories high.
She said the office was Game Factoring...not G.A.M.E. Factory. I guess it was closed since it was Saturday. She just happened to have the car on a Sat., and some free time, so she thought she would look for an office...as I'd requested...per others requests here too.
Temporary offices was not my term but the term used on the WTC website.
Anyone can call Berta Chen and inquire for themselves.
Temporary Offices
WTC Business Center offers office services on a temporary basis (daily, weekly, monthly or annually). These services include secretarial services, communications, telephone and
fax services, mailing and messenger services, etc.
Contact:
Berta Alicia Chen
Telephone: (507) 269-6124
Fax: (507) 269-6126
If you go to the Port-Sae website it states it is located in Suite 603 in the World Trade Center in Panama. If you go to the World Trade Center...suite 603 is a tiny office for a company called Game Factoring the does something with computer disks.
Posted for what it's worth.
I guess I am not the best writer around here...sorry you find it so funny. I guess the truth of my story hurts. I shouldn't have bothered sharing her experiences.
Hey 4God, you can go ahead and delete all my posts for all I care. I thought I was doing the board a favor...guess not.
I have never posted her name and don't appreciate it being posted...it was close but not quite correct anyway...but quite clear that Pedro gave it to you guys incorrectly. Maybe distracted scientist is Pedro for all I know since he does read here.
It is not my place to share anything about her related to jobs. It didn't go anywhere so she gave up and she has other job opportunities. She sold her shares for a loss a while ago. She has no ill will...she's not like that. IT HAD NO IMPACT, 4God. (She had a pleasant enough luncheon meeting with Pedro last winter where he suggested that she could work for him.)
She went looking for the office as a favor for me....and for all of you...like I said...believe me or not...no skin off of this mother's back.
I just spoke with her again to clarify a bit:
There is a desk where one must sign in upon entering the World Trade Center. The stuff about the FBI was said in jest. He had never heard of any of the names related to Panamersa or PDR Exchange etc...or Pedro Borges.
If you go back to Aug 17 (or so) you can see where I asked for the address which someone provided in a post.
She went up to the 6th floor where there is a tiny office in suite 603 for Game Factoring...I guess they make CD's or something... it maybe related to Panamersa or Pedro in some way. She then walked around the 10th floor looking for anything Panamersa or PDR Exchange or Fundacion related and found nothing. She doesn't recall seeing a Desimplex office but she wasn't looking for that and could be mistaken.
The blogs are still vague and very pink sheet scam like to me. I've only been investing in Pinksheets for about a year and as a newbie tended to get sucked into the hype. I've learned a lot since then and am skeptical of all of them.
No point in trying to help anyone here...I just thought since she was down there that it'd be a good thing to take advantage of that. She may go back to speak with Emanuel at the Game Factoring during the week.
I don't know what it takes for any of you to believe anything...I give up. I am feeling like a broken record. GLTA
I don't know which question you are referring to....it is your choice to judge my intentions any way you wish.
If it is related to my daughters job prospects...I'd rather not respond to that here and I don't have a paid/premium membership to use the private message function.
It is nice to see some green!
That would be great....I hope you have more luck than she had.
She doesn't always have the time or use of a car either. Since it was a Saturday and on the spur of the moment...she was only looking for a physical office.
I'll ask her if she saw an office for Desimplex on the 10th floor. She didn't have a suite number when she went on Saturday.
If this is different than other Pink Sheet companies and such a big deal....it really seems like they should have an office in Panama that an investor can visit...hey, but what do I know...
My daughter will be in Panama for at least several more months or longer. It was a Saturday when she visited the World Trade Center building....it is reasonable that security...or elevator operator...not sure who it was, would ask what she was doing in the building.
She just happened to have the use or her boyfriend's car and the time to check it out...as I had asked her to. Several days ago someone posted that it would be a good thing if someone could go there. You can all believe or not believe anything you like. I have no reason to lie. I am a shareholder as well as most here. I'd love to see PNMS succeed...to be a reality. There just doesn't seem to be a whole lot that is concrete as yet...nothing to hang a hat on.
Maybe if a couple of others go there on their own or make their own inquiries in Panama (or Panama City) you'll believe them...or not.
Pepsiman must be staying or living too far away from Panama City to be convenient to go...otherwise he would have by now.
My daughter speaks Spanish...maybe not perfectly....but pretty darn good. Also, lots of people speak English is Panama.
If debit cards are issued and they work....that will be great news.
All of what you said could very well be true.
I just posted the results of my daughter's visit to the Panamanian World Trade Center and her personal opinion at this time.
Don't base your decisions on anything I've written. I just know lots of us have wanted to know if they have actual offices in Panama for the PDR Exchange, the Fundacion....and/or Panamersa.
4God has seen the offices in Dallas and met with MT.
My daughter tried to visit the office in Panama...she just now went to the following address:
(I spoke to her while she was still in the building)
PDR Exchange (Panama) Inc.
World Trade Center
Calle 53 Este Marbella
Piso 10
Panama
She went to the 6th floor (where we thought they previously had a suite number before: it is an online gaming office) then she went to the 10th floor...looked all around...nothing that is Panamersa or PDR Exchange related. (she also tried to locate the office there several months ago and found nothing then too)
Before going up the elevator she had explained to a guy (security?) what she was doing there ...the guy asked if she was with the FBI...she explained what she was seeking and why....she asked if he knew of Pedro or Emmanuel (she used the full names)...he didn't. No one she spoke with had ever heard of the Fundacion or PDR Exchange....she was told of two other foundations that have offices there....nothing even close the PDR Exchange or Fundacion...
She again told me that corporations can get a virtual office (actually just an address) there for something like $20.
Several months ago she had lunch with Pedro. She did not see an office at that time but only drove by the Trade Center and he pointed and said their office was in there. He also told her that he reads this board.
She was a shareholder...not sure if she still is....she thinks it is probably a scam....but has no actual proof of anything...aside from there not being an office.
She went into it with an open mind hopeful that it was all true...but now has serious doubts. She doesn't think I should send in my certs...and I haven't...nor have I requested them yet.
She has been to Boquete...she had little to go on then and found out nothing...she had no luck when she tried asking a realtor. She enjoyed the area.
edited to try to adjust the bold; had left out slash.
Thanks...
Do you have an address for or is there an address for the PDR exchange in Panama City, Panama?
Welcome to the PTQMF board.
I've been watching this for the last month. I think there is lots of potential here.
Do your own DD.
I think Shapery's design would win over that one even if it wasn't his intial intention.
That guy is bonkers...the building design is clearly phallic.
We could use some mention on Hal Lindsey to help with the falling PPS. It worked last time.
Kip, if you read here, it is time for some news...
One of you who has been successful in corresponding with Kip in the past should give it a try again and see if you can find out something. Hopefully something that can give us some hope here.
So, does anyone know what the charge will be for the exchanges...sorry if it's been already posted and I missed.
I am still a bit unclear on this sending them our certs thing. I printed out the 2 forms.
Maybe I am just ignorant but how is it that we retain ownership of our shares or PDR's once we transfer them to the Ownership to the Fundacion. How can we be sure we aren't just signing over our shares to them?
How do you know this? Are you an employee?
Nice day for FCLE...maybe they are getting closer to having their SEC filings ready.
Has it been a down day in the pink market....or is in just all the pinks I own that are down?
Me too....nice to see it green for me for a change.
Well, there isn't much volume yet anyway. Maybe I am the fool...
added some @ .018.
Me too, nice little surprise.
On zabasearch it says that the Robert O. Knutson on Creekside Dr. was born in 1936.
His link didn't bring up anything for me.
Here is the record of the annual report:
Filing Number: 1Q-337 Entity Type: Domestic Corporation
Original Date of Filing: 11/27/1968 Entity Status: Active
Chapter: 302A Good Standing:
(date of last annual filing) 2007
Duration: PERPETUAL
Name: XRAYMEDIA Inc.
Registered Office Address: 9372 Creekwood Drv
Eden Prairie, MN, 55347
Agent Name: No Agent Filed
Posted by EdFrankie over on Magic;
XRYM--and the yellow brick road.
So XRAYMEDIA Inc is now active with MN SOS:
http://da.sos.state.mn.us/minnesota/corp_inquiry-entity.asp?:nfiling_number=1Q-337&entity_type_i....
The only potentially usable info is the address for the registered office. And since there is no RA info, my assumption is that the address is the one provided by whomever is the shell custodian.
A revers address search comes up with:
Knutson, Robert
9372 Creekwood Dr
Eden Prairie, MN 55347-2726
(952) 941-2744
http://www.whitepages.com/10001/search/ReverseAddress?housenumber=9372&street=Creekwood+Drv&....
A google search of Robert Knutson in the MN area comes up with several hits. One of interest is that this guy is possibly the same guy as the CEO of this company:
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=VPWS
But who knows for sure???
I've been holding shares in XRYM for a while and have tried to email the company a couple of times. I have never gotten a response.