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No, I am no way related to him. I read his posts often though. I find his ideas very reinforcing to mine.
Again, you guys dodging my questions, and talking nonsense to change the subject. Like I said, today is the DUMP date. Most hypers and flippers made theirmoney and sold off while others here to carry off the burden,
I feel sorry for you, btw, what is your average price per share now? How many times has I asked this question to these longs/hypers that been hyping everyone to buy since the teens and at all lvls below. Did you guys sold while keep hyping and not tell anyone? Or are you guys like the ones you baited, down over 80% also?
Low volume because too much shares at the ask, and no one any more interest to buy in this shit that why price is trending down.
I am not him, that is not my Ebay account, simply do a search on that acct's location and confirm with Matt the IP of my current location. I am not afraid of any to prove it.
And that's it today for stupid out of topic posts.
Call Tim Garlin, he will confirm it to you that they're continuing to convert preferred B shares.
They have already confirmed many times the recent increase in OS is due to them coverting preferred B to common and they will continue doing it. That why the price if going down, VFIN have continued shares supply from preferred B through Pawson.
Same pattern, huge dump follow many a couple pump prs to bring price a bit up, then follow by another dump.
Pawson's dumping day, let's see .04 today. Becareful guys, recommend sell before does.
No I am not Ocean. I love it when you ppl keep speculating non existing shits, lol. Tomorrow, we'll see .04s again.
Hawaii, i totally agreed with you, too much dilution here, this stock can't move with this mega float plus more shares to be released through preferred B conversions DAILY. THE OS changes so often you have to call the TA daily to confirm it. There is a reason why the PPS fell so many lvls, that is because the OS increased as many more.
Ppl keep asking why VFIN have so many shares to sell, and it is because the company itself is converting their B shares to common daily and they will continue just like Pawson did to IDFR, diluted that pig to billions of shares in a short time. Same thing happening here.
Volume will kick in tomorrow and more shares to be dumped.
Watchout guys, remember Pawson is using your money for his personal hobby/childhood race car dream. THAT IS JUST WRONG.
And again; here is good post for newcomers to reread before they get bailed by hypers:
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Posted by: skytrades
In reply to: None Date:11/19/2006 7:17:54 AM
Post #of 3453
Good post from "iamtoocute" of HSM:
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Thanks fireopal, re-edited my evaluation with Guapo's post. CBAY meets almost all the points.
Quote:
Great post by Spectre and Guapo regarding stock scams, check CBAY with the list.
* - Late filings (Another late filing)
* - Heavy Dilution (OS increased 3fold in a few months even during buyback and still increasing daily)
* - Blaming Low Stock Price On Shorted Stock. (September 27th pr, blame downward pressure on shorts, but never mention dilution)
* - Company Executives Pumping There Own Stock (How many fluff PRs out in between and PPS runs a little then down)
* - Questionable O/S and Float (OS increasing everyday)
* - Inaccurate SEC Filings (Keep fluffing and inflating fake assets on filings)
* - Constant Company Delay’s (Always move slower than everyone else, remember the NOBO list? Others orderd 2 days ahead and received 2 weeks erarly)
* - Previous reverse splits, stock symbol and company name changes, sometimes accompanied by changes in the business they’re in (1 for 25 RS last December)
* - CEO~s with past histories that indicate they were involved in previous pump and dump schemes (Pawson, billion shares after the smokes cleared, IDFR)
* - CEO~s with past histories that indicate they were involved in previous pump and dump schemes (Pawson is also involved with GWDB)
* - Company executives spending a lot of time doing other things than conducting business (Using shareholder money to finance a Nascar racing team)
* - Companies that hopscotch from one business to another (Check Business description under their last filing, they have been hopping from business to business)
* - PR~s containing weasel talk (Read their financial statements and fluff PRs, always inflated property values upong acquisition and contract numbers)
Here's link again to Guapo's post:
http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums...=36435&page=12
Quote:
I have been getting this question asked of me quite a bit in the recent weeks. “How can you spot a stock scam?”
The answer is, there is no clear and cut way to spot a scam. Obviously the better the scam, the harder to spot. Below is a list of things to look for in stock scams. The list is in no particular order and are more or less just red flags to me that may signal a scam. Just having one or two red flags is a sign of caution to me. More than four and I stay away from it, although I still might “trade” it if Momo is there.
- The company makes many promises but never delivers. Examples: Dividends, To Move Exchanges, The Stock Reaching a Particular Lofted Price
- Late Filings
- Heavy Dilution
- Heavy Pumping and Cheerleading
- Blaming Low Stock Price On Shorted Stock.
- Checkered Past by Company Executives
- New Stocks That See Quick Price Jumps and Declines
- Company Executives Pumping There Own Stock
- Failure to Meet SEC Rules and Regulations
- Questionable O/S and Float
- Inaccurate SEC Filings
- Broker Restriction on Buying and Selling
- Heavily Spammed Stocks
- Constant Company Delay’s
- No Record of Revenues or Profit for Companies that Have Traded for More Than 6 Months
- Promises of Financial Salvation
- Company Focused on Stock Price and Not The Business
- Halted Trading
- It Seems To Good To Be True
These were just a few off the top of my head. As I think of more, I will add them to the list.
Sell while you can, Pawson is on the ask to dump more shares.
Conversion of more preferred B shares in progress by the company. They'll dump more through VFIN as they pump.
Desperate PR released too early to get attention... p&d.
Accordingly if that is the case for him, I am sure he is aware of CSHD and SLJB.
And also please remember what these hypers say everytime their so called rumors and outrageous target prices did not come true and pps end up dropping by a huge margin. (WE LOVE THESE CHEAP SHARES. PLEASE LET US BUY MORE.) Everytime they coulda bought at much lower a couple days later lol. They love buying high or they got AN AGENDA? But when asked how much they ARE DOWN ON THIS, NONE OF THEM HAVE THE GUTS TO RESPOND.
Here is good post for newcomers to reread before they get bailed by hypers:
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Posted by: skytrades
In reply to: None Date:11/19/2006 7:17:54 AM
Post #of 3453
Good post from "iamtoocute" of HSM:
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Thanks fireopal, re-edited my evaluation with Guapo's post. CBAY meets almost all the points.
Quote:
Great post by Spectre and Guapo regarding stock scams, check CBAY with the list.
* - Late filings (Another late filing)
* - Heavy Dilution (OS increased 3fold in a few months even during buyback and still increasing daily)
* - Blaming Low Stock Price On Shorted Stock. (September 27th pr, blame downward pressure on shorts, but never mention dilution)
* - Company Executives Pumping There Own Stock (How many fluff PRs out in between and PPS runs a little then down)
* - Questionable O/S and Float (OS increasing everyday)
* - Inaccurate SEC Filings (Keep fluffing and inflating fake assets on filings)
* - Constant Company Delay’s (Always move slower than everyone else, remember the NOBO list? Others orderd 2 days ahead and received 2 weeks erarly)
* - Previous reverse splits, stock symbol and company name changes, sometimes accompanied by changes in the business they’re in (1 for 25 RS last December)
* - CEO~s with past histories that indicate they were involved in previous pump and dump schemes (Pawson, billion shares after the smokes cleared, IDFR)
* - CEO~s with past histories that indicate they were involved in previous pump and dump schemes (Pawson is also involved with GWDB)
* - Company executives spending a lot of time doing other things than conducting business (Using shareholder money to finance a Nascar racing team)
* - Companies that hopscotch from one business to another (Check Business description under their last filing, they have been hopping from business to business)
* - PR~s containing weasel talk (Read their financial statements and fluff PRs, always inflated property values upong acquisition and contract numbers)
Here's link again to Guapo's post:
http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums...=36435&page=12
Quote:
I have been getting this question asked of me quite a bit in the recent weeks. “How can you spot a stock scam?”
The answer is, there is no clear and cut way to spot a scam. Obviously the better the scam, the harder to spot. Below is a list of things to look for in stock scams. The list is in no particular order and are more or less just red flags to me that may signal a scam. Just having one or two red flags is a sign of caution to me. More than four and I stay away from it, although I still might “trade” it if Momo is there.
- The company makes many promises but never delivers. Examples: Dividends, To Move Exchanges, The Stock Reaching a Particular Lofted Price
- Late Filings
- Heavy Dilution
- Heavy Pumping and Cheerleading
- Blaming Low Stock Price On Shorted Stock.
- Checkered Past by Company Executives
- New Stocks That See Quick Price Jumps and Declines
- Company Executives Pumping There Own Stock
- Failure to Meet SEC Rules and Regulations
- Questionable O/S and Float
- Inaccurate SEC Filings
- Broker Restriction on Buying and Selling
- Heavily Spammed Stocks
- Constant Company Delay’s
- No Record of Revenues or Profit for Companies that Have Traded for More Than 6 Months
- Promises of Financial Salvation
- Company Focused on Stock Price and Not The Business
- Halted Trading
- It Seems To Good To Be True
These were just a few off the top of my head. As I think of more, I will add them to the list.
Answer this question, what is their point of buying back shares if they will dump more? Would it be better to just use the money on buyback to finance instead of going around the loop? Other than hype assist to support PPS as long as possible to dump more, what else can it be?
Also, the only thing they announce is blaming shorts for PPS downward pressure, yet never mention a single thing about dilution. SMART?
Apparently the PPS fell from .190 on the last run to these lvls for a reason during their buyback.
Hans, hypers (paid mayBE) are trying to pump this while the company continues to dump shares. Everything they said have been lies/hypes (nothing they said came true as of today). They tried to bail in nubs by with unrealistic $1 target prices (nubs dream to get rich). They play on nubs feelings. They will say things such as "PR will be out tomorrow with the huge settlement check." And please think about it, everything they said never come true. I still remember some of them were using the 22m OS before lol when they have no idea or lying (OS was 75.1m back then CONFIRMED). Always try to use old figures from financials when current situation is much different to divert nubs' thinkings. IF you ask HONESTLY, HOW MUCH LOSS DID PPL INCUR ON THIS STOCK SO FAR? I am sure everyone is down at leats 50% except for flippers.
All you guys say is Pawson said that, the company said this but the point is they won't tell you "OMG, we are diluting this pig. Please don't buy." The company I am pretty much sure were optimistic and said good things when you guys called over the last two months, and what happened to PPS over this course? They made many apparent lies, let me name a few.
1. Diluting during buyback. OS increased from 56-78m just during the month of buyback, and now even more.
2. Pawson outright lied regarding the filing "to be published next week" through his desperate PR to hype, he knew that they couldn't file on time at the time of PR.
3. Inflated asset values of acquisitions that why no 8ks were filed in the past regarding them or they were too stupid to follow the regulations back then? and only realize it now?
4. Lied regarding Nascar car racing team, he wanted that because racing car was his childhood dream.
5. Lied regarding shorts, it was confirmed, the short position here was insignicfant, around 300k during October, and 100k during September and that is reason why they didn't announce like other companies on their NOBO pr the amount shorted.
6. Company is releasing the shares through VFIN and of course they'll deny they are, or else which MM are they dumping the increased OS through?
P.S; and the hypers rumored settlement PR today, I am again 100% sure this is not happening, they are trying to bail ppl again.
Checkout CBAY history after every signicifant drop in PPS during the last two months, there will be a PR with a tiny jump back up, then slowing drifting back to lower lvls. PATTERN HERE.
Knowing Pawson's pump and dump nature, watch out today when Pawson dumps huge volume and flippas sell off.
ALSO, there will be no news regarding the settlement, so strongus and others, stop trying to spread the rumor to hype. THAT IS FOR SURE YOU GUYS ARE LYING. I WILL EAT ???? if I AM NOT RIGHT ON THIS.
Strongus, stop posting old financials, we have read their complete filings for previous ones instead of the yahoo garbage for quarter ending 6/30.
And I wonder why ppl still hpying $1 targets while it continues to go down.
Yea yea, you guys will say any down is positive so you can average out.
LMAO, you guys believed a CEO that screwed up another shareholder base. That was exactly what happened, ppl believed him and end up he diluted IDFR to a billion shares, and they lost all their money. lol, and now it is gone. He came onboard to screw another shareholder base. Using Rufus as example, if he start as CEO of another company, would you believe him again? or SLJB lol.
Don't forget the famous GWDB, how many times have they RSed and changed symbol?
Check it, Pawson diluted IDFR out of existence, he was inboard at IDFR since 2000. If you want to read some of the old stuffs regarding Pawson and IDFR, highbeam.com still have an archive.
Hmmm.. i suggest you try google, maybe keyword "Pawson + IDFR". There used to be tons of discussions on that on RB also.
I Said "IDFR" many times but I guess you don't even know what happened lol. Pawson diluted that shit to billions of shares when smokes cleared.
And also Pawson is associated with GWDB? You should know GWDB right?
I said it many times, I don't want Pawson to continue his scams. I personally knew victims of IDFR SCAM by Pawson. I am trying to prevent as many ppl from falling to victims of Pawson here again. But unfortunately many ppl got burned hard already because they didn't listen to me.
That was my suggestion for the next support lvl when stock was still above .10? Unfortunately, CBAY worst than anyone can thought and broke support at every level. Thanks for supporting me.
Did I not said I am not trying to hide and welcome that to prove myself? I know traceroute is possible. Please do it.
If Pawson would blame someone on a message board as next excuse for PPS drop, then I would LMAO more than anything. Think about it yourself.
BTW, I am not afraid of anything, I don't gain anything when PPS fall. Again I am no short, I am not afraid to challenge anyone on this legitly if you guys want to prove it. In fact, I dare you guys to, I want to prove it that I am no short or paid basher.
You guys believed it was worst price on the last long redcandlestick to .048 ;) guess what happened, this is going to .01 below then RS. PAWSON.
But if you guys flipped during that drop and 25% bounce, your GOLDEN, but please tell everyone u were selling, and not continue to hype while you sold urself. (you guys know it will drop even lower!!)
Anyway, this will do as suggested above after every flip, look at the chart.
Why you guys keep bashing me when everything I said have been correct and came true? If anyone listened to me and not buy at .195, .15, .10, .07, .05, how much would you have saved from this mega bloody loss?
While you guys keep hyping and screaming unreleastic target prices while it went in direction I suggested. Who have been right and who been wrong?
Read Doh's post a while ago:
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Posted by: DoDahMan
In reply to: fxdad who wrote msg# 2714 Date:11/18/2006 6:50:17 PM
Post #of 3120
Hey all, once a CBAY believer and loyal long, share holder and occasional flipper, but I have lost confidence in the stock and I see it funny how you all keep attacking the basher who has been right while you have seen your stock price go from .18 or so on a news pop a month or so ago to .047 and then back up to .068 on a news pop about the OS(good to see theme release this to squelch the bs 100M+OS that was being floated around here) and then back down to .05 and back up to above .06.
I did well on a flip last week and may do it again, but I just don't like the fact that they announce a share buyback and then triple the OS. Something about that is just not right. I know they have many properties, probably acquisitions, a race car sponsorship, and so on, but have you all considered how much the OS might be if the Pref B shares did convert to common shares or Pawson did convert even a fraction of his Pref A shares? I admitably am not up on my DD of this stock like I was when I was a loyal long, so feel free to correct any mistatements of fact.
Also keep in mind that the $15M mortgagenote is not paid for and the shares not part of the OS They are not getting the entire $15M, but the diffence. Take a look at the filings about the deal if you need to see it as I don't have the time to post all the details but it's all there for you and black and white or just wait for the 10Q to be released next week as it should be in there too.
All that said, the charts don't lie and the stock has an ugly chart IMO like many OTCBB?pink charts since the summer, BUT you may have found some support here at .06 and hopefully you guys/gals see this stock rise to SP levels you all think it is truly worth.
I wish you peace and profits in your investing,
DooDah
Good downward pressure building for sometime, we should this go lower again today. We will resume yesterday's downward momentum.
Newer lows, higher lows.
How can you say everything is fine when a stock dropped from a dollar to a few pennies and still sliding. Something must be definitely wrong. NOT FINE.
This has been the unrealistic targets and hopes the hypers bring on to bail new people, and guess what has happened to the PPS since then? Anyone that got bailed lost at least over 50%.
Yea they cancelling shares while dilution, it has been proven. If I am paid basher, you are paid pumper? Track your posts, lol, what prices you bought at huh? How much you lost or baited others to lose with your hype since you came onboard?
Watchout for reverse split here when this goes below a penny. That is when you guys see $1.
Down 27.45% on huge volume, if this is not selloff, I don't know what is. Stop blaming it on shorts, it is the management that scammed you guys.
I really don't know how much loss ppl can take nowadays before they can stop the millionaire dreams infested to them by hypers with $1 target prices. Maybe once they woke up, and see they have lost their complete investment, we'll see many cries and MAYBE lawsuits?
Hawaii, I am glad finally there is someone agreeing with me that this company need to BE CORRECTED.
Hypers have a positive story to tell and excuses everytime the PPS drops. And I hope someobody is eating "crow" and admit he is wrong.
I insisted hypers to tell me their excuses when PPS sink hard today two weeks ago, and they stayed quiet on it.